I made a meme comment about unethical gaming and he on stream had a opinion on ethics in gaming. He believes it's just a game and not serious enough to worry about ethics. A person who thinks like this doesn't believe it's a big deal to cheat in the game. Even in his own video he was arguing for then to just ban the hacking account and not his main as well. Some people have no ethics or care for rules in any game or even life itself. Criminals and bulkys operate on the same ethics level.
@@nifty127 The number 1 thing was very obviously a joke. He literally called himself the #1 bucc player even though his bucc was like lvl 220. It's obvious satire.
Idk why you would risk totem hacking on your second chance... after the first account he should've been super careful with what he did/associated with. I mostly don't feel bad.
Bad reflection on his character how he handled the ban. I was foolish enough to believe his first Ban was due to Nexons incompetence. Now I know it wasnt, Ducky simply lied and dragged Nexons already poor rep further just because he wanted to appear legit when in fact he isnt.
best take on the situation so farn it was hard watching streams the last two days on twitch, felt like people were waiting for the opportunity to justify their hate.
Other than the occasional racist smegas, I think most people hated him because they thought he was a cheater. This debacle just proved them right so it's more like vindication especially since duky was so adamant on being legit and not knowing why his first account got banned. Then a few months ago he had the drama with Misusing and he changed his story to someone accessed his account and botted on it. All the lying doesn't shed his character in a good light. I understand he makes good education content but he could've done that without being a "pathological" liar.
the fact he still felt the need to cheat after already having been caught once, despite him receiving tons of help through carries, and then trying to drag nexon through the dirt and having his community harrass them makes me disappointed as well. i enjoyed watching his content and his progression series, but that shouldnt grant him immunity nor give him any free passes
It should grant him like 1 month ban but dang perma ban iss too much and the amount of nx spent. I bet you if it was copper sam they wouldnt have said nothing maple is targeting him fucken perma ban is insane. And he put’s content out for them he isnt just afk he helps maple comunity learn Things and get us to next level. He basically advertises them but look how they do the few streaners that actually know content perma ban for a lil hack so sad. They wouldn’t have done that to copper or that other chick. I swear maple play favories and i dont like that person he should get one more chance but perma ban in this era is insane
The bt/wh aspect of the situation doesnt really bother me. What really bothered me, and what I think you did not mention in your video was the fact that he was using the alt account for totem skill injecting, as well as having evidence of him on his youtube video showing him controlling the luminous on the account when he said he had no idea about the luminous, He shouldve just admitted his wrong doing, but kept to his story even till the end of his stream
yeah my TLDR wasn't supposed to be and was not entirely accurate. I did explicitly state that he did cheat on the other account though (which entails the lumi and totems) I do appreciate the feedback though and will work to perfect my words and delivery in the next video!
Yeah but him breaking the law takes nothing out of his achievement. All it would have done make him grind for a bit more hours which he would have done anyways
@@musztardowytygrys9808 what does he lose if he doesn’t totem abuse? The grind aspect was still in there. he grinded manually. He deserves to be banned but the level of cheating he did was very stupid
@@akkad398 i remember when reboot came out and so many of the banned content creators were trying to tell people how they made their mesos but each one got picked off one by one for botting .
@@akkad398 aye bro do you play reboot? I recently been trying to get into it again and I’ve been seeking for friends and shit in the game. Would you be down to help a bro out?
I'm surprised Perhapsody hasn't been banned for his history of botting, maybe because of this drama more things will come to light and nexon will take stronger actions against people who break TOS.
it's probably the case with zerobydivide as well. I'm sure nexon learned a lesson, and will not be allowing content creators to walk away scott free when they willingly cheat knowing it's against the TOS
People had opinions and misgivings about Duky for his first ban, most seemed to give him the benefit of doubt, which is reasonable. His previous ban is no reason to think or speak poorly of him, people do change. The same is true here, but the publicity and behavior of Nexon makes me think the first ban was justified, as well as this one. I am glad he has seemed to be personally okay through this ban. His behavior is likely where other people's discontent and anger comes from; this ban and last ban, he acts dumbfounded and professes his innocence, doubt still exists with the first ban, but not with this one. If he hasn't spoken up about it, it seemed Nexon was allowing him the opportunity to keep his dignity, and keep ambiguity around the reason for his ban. I do hope he comes back to mushroom game, his contributions are valuable to the game and the community. Give it a few months or so. Maybe with Savior.
@@kaiserplays9016 he was upset, sure, which is reasonable. He wasn't threatening harm to himself or others, and he wasn't threatening criminal action. Upset, not irrational.
I understand where you're coming from, and I don't condone any of the harassment or racism he's said that he's gotten from this, but I don't think the community is a big problem. Duky was a controversial person for many, so when he got banned for hacking of course people are gonna revel in it. He's been elitist, stirred the pot with tier lists, fanned the flames of unnecessary drama, said a lot of things in genuine poor taste, and other overall toxic behavior. You can argue that a lot of the stuff he did was a joke, but it's only a joke when everyone's in on it, and you can't just hide behind that as a defense. Plus the way he acted in the immediate aftermath did him no favors. I just hope he can learn from this and move on. Admittedly, I'm probably not gonna keep watching if he's not doing stuff maple related, but he's put in a ton of hours on twitch so his work shouldn't just go to waste. Hacking to progress yourself faster in a video game isn't enough to warrant his livelihood going down the drain.
His first main account got banned now he basically gets 2 bans one on a new main account and one on a botting account in Al 3 cases he deserved the ban nothing against the guy but he should not come back part of the community will stand behind him I will always respect that but if you come back after 3 bans you can expect a lot of hate not justifying it also a thing that nobody really talks about is the amount of times he say imagine I get banned right now when he dcs I have watched a few streams here and there and some what feels like he was expecting it to happen at some point but again nothing against the guy seem like a decent dude but don’t think it’s smart for him to come back
Dude, nexon does nothing against mesos sellers - macro - sharing accounts - any TOS violationship in non reboot servers. this is really sad and this is why people is quitting the game because they does nothing against those people who, at end of the day doesn't let us play properly. I'm not a great fan of duky but I'm really disappointed with nexon right now
I can understand your frustrations, but this is a part of their active effort to make sure that these cheaters don't get through. And sometimes it isn't perfect yes, but one can only witness the active cheating that exists in regular servers currently and not anything that nexon has done to prevent these efforts. It is a situation that must be viewed from both perspectives, it's not very easy to make sure that 100% of cheating goes undetected.
I disagree with the timing of the ban and how other content creators have handled it ( I unsubscribed from a quite a bit of content creators, truly disgusted by their actions, their content pales in comparison, so i understand why they need to punch up, but still). I agree with your notion that i hope he can move on and find his next passion.
I think it really shines a bad light. Considering that content creators are supposed to be professional when it comes to these situations as well. Whether you like the guy or not, saying what's real and keeping your emotions out of these situations are the most important things to do.
@@plaguedoctor5657 in the grand scheme of things, it isn't a big deal. not sure why people are celebrating like they won the superbowl. it isn't that deep. lets hope he moves on.
@@plaguedoctor5657 I totally understand, but keep the feelings and emotions private, if they wanted to make videos or content regarding the topic, that's 100% fine, the issue is that putting emotions before the facts is what creates a lot of these negative scenarios that lead to straight up harassment which is totally not deserved
@@akkad398 you’re completely right man. It’s hard not to let emotions get involved with a game we all belove. I guess it just made me feel personally offended each time I watched him stream with others and he would call out their equips for not being good enough etc…. Again it’s a weird situation on every end lol
doesnt actually make sense to that he would, knowing that the public eye is on him. He should have been more careful using another account, but still. BIG L on community for sending him death threats and being racist. He was a big change in the scene, bringing fresh ideals to the section. He honestly brought me back to the game. I am not particularly excited to see the same boring content from these other creators.
you are acting like even a slightly significant amount off ppl were throwing out death threats and failing to acknowledge his attempt to defame and gaslight gms and send hate to them ON STREAM WITH THEIR NAME SHOWN, Even the most unbiased Duky fans are biased
He should have never done it. Full stop. He would have been fine making videos etc but he is the one who put his account at risk. It's on him and no one else.
@TN Bro went for the winning argument and ignored where I said that the ppl making death threats and stuff were insignificant, if you just want to say that those ppl are wrong it's not a very hot take, what's the point of that statement
Yeah definitely don’t smear hate on duky he is a human being just like us although i think they handled it rather unprofessionally and the fact that they had to state the timing of the ban being mere coincidence is laughable. This also could explain why his account got banned in the first time he got banned
that would be some good insight if we know why he got banned the first time and why it lead to the instant perma the second time. but I really think nexon couldn't have handled this situation any better. They did what they needed to, and in all reality it was kind of the other way around to be fair
@@ryancrail2145 right right, and reddit cooked him with hard proof he knew what he was on, hiding characters behind portal and all in the 250 maps 🤦🏽♂️
@@plaguedoctor5657 u think u can get carries so easly man. Some players dont have carries no one hands out free bm and hard lotus will or serim carries breh you gotta know people and have them willing to carry u thats called hacks cause its a faster method to arcane. Some prople stronger than me and level 257 and still no arcane. Dome people liberate faster and just quit the game cause bm is the last boss there nothing to do after bm. Once you kill bm its the final boss. Dont even matter about level no more lol
I'm in disbelief, Duky put in so much time into his shadower account, why even risk cheating to reach the ceiling that much sooner?
this is the most frustrating part for me. Even without the additional benefits to his account, he could have easily been near where he is currently
I think it’s to keep his “no.1 status”…sadly
ego trip fr he acted like he was untouchable..
I made a meme comment about unethical gaming and he on stream had a opinion on ethics in gaming. He believes it's just a game and not serious enough to worry about ethics. A person who thinks like this doesn't believe it's a big deal to cheat in the game. Even in his own video he was arguing for then to just ban the hacking account and not his main as well. Some people have no ethics or care for rules in any game or even life itself. Criminals and bulkys operate on the same ethics level.
@@nifty127 The number 1 thing was very obviously a joke. He literally called himself the #1 bucc player even though his bucc was like lvl 220. It's obvious satire.
Idk why you would risk totem hacking on your second chance... after the first account he should've been super careful with what he did/associated with. I mostly don't feel bad.
taking the risk for such a small benefit is what created an a potential for this sort of incident to happen, kind of his fault and kind of unlucky.
Cheaters never learn, if he ever comes back remember this statement.
Bad reflection on his character how he handled the ban. I was foolish enough to believe his first Ban was due to Nexons incompetence. Now I know it wasnt, Ducky simply lied and dragged Nexons already poor rep further just because he wanted to appear legit when in fact he isnt.
best take on the situation so farn it was hard watching streams the last two days on twitch, felt like people were waiting for the opportunity to justify their hate.
Other than the occasional racist smegas, I think most people hated him because they thought he was a cheater. This debacle just proved them right so it's more like vindication especially since duky was so adamant on being legit and not knowing why his first account got banned. Then a few months ago he had the drama with Misusing and he changed his story to someone accessed his account and botted on it. All the lying doesn't shed his character in a good light. I understand he makes good education content but he could've done that without being a "pathological" liar.
@@wakomaoi true there a lot of actions that were not justified on his end either
the fact he still felt the need to cheat after already having been caught once, despite him receiving tons of help through carries, and then trying to drag nexon through the dirt and having his community harrass them makes me disappointed as well. i enjoyed watching his content and his progression series, but that shouldnt grant him immunity nor give him any free passes
and sadly this is the case
It should grant him like 1 month ban but dang perma ban iss too much and the amount of nx spent. I bet you if it was copper sam they wouldnt have said nothing maple is targeting him fucken perma ban is insane. And he put’s content out for them he isnt just afk he helps maple comunity learn Things and get us to next level. He basically advertises them but look how they do the few streaners that actually know content perma ban for a lil hack so sad. They wouldn’t have done that to copper or that other chick. I swear maple play favories and i dont like that person he should get one more chance but perma ban in this era is insane
@@Stargazer221 the reason why they wouldn't ban coppersan permanently is because copppersan wouldnt risk hacking on two separate occasions 💀
@@Stargazer221 that’s literally the most childish way you could possibly look at this.
@@Stargazer221bro your trippen he profited off that totem hack anyway you slice it
The bt/wh aspect of the situation doesnt really bother me. What really bothered me, and what I think you did not mention in your video was the fact that he was using the alt account for totem skill injecting, as well as having evidence of him on his youtube video showing him controlling the luminous on the account when he said he had no idea about the luminous, He shouldve just admitted his wrong doing, but kept to his story even till the end of his stream
yeah my TLDR wasn't supposed to be and was not entirely accurate. I did explicitly state that he did cheat on the other account though (which entails the lumi and totems)
I do appreciate the feedback though and will work to perfect my words and delivery in the next video!
@akkad398 you should probably remake the video considering how badly you misrepresented the situation.
breaking the law = ban
simple
byebye
breaking the law twice,also ban XD
from a very straightforward and crude perspective yes.
Yeah but him breaking the law takes nothing out of his achievement. All it would have done make him grind for a bit more hours which he would have done anyways
@@4lAces totem abuse while it was patched=ban
@@musztardowytygrys9808 what does he lose if he doesn’t totem abuse? The grind aspect was still in there. he grinded manually. He deserves to be banned but the level of cheating he did was very stupid
@@4lAces he would lose x3 more times to archive same thing without infinity prenerf totem.. so he deserved punishment
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Blade!
Np king 👑
this is his 3rd ban. Peopled need to stop acting like this is his first ban
its crazy how a lot of high level players and streamers hack or cheat or been caught doing so.
Yeah realistically there were nowhere near necessary which is sad
@@akkad398 i remember when reboot came out and so many of the banned content creators were trying to tell people how they made their mesos but each one got picked off one by one for botting .
@@AgentC6H12O6 yeah Botting was really bad in reboot before, but it has gotten much better over the years which is good
Wait but you are #1 streamer🤨
I forgor KEKW
but in all seriousness I don't think I'm even close to claiming that title for myself
He's next kekw
hopefully he joins lost ark hard honest grind for the most part
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On a ladder note: spots open king, you know what to do 😏 you’ve always had a crown in the ring….the throne is empty 😏😏😏😏
☠no rat activity around here 🐀
191 days = ages? Young people today…
I'm a zoomer LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Goodbye Dookie. Hacking is undermining everyone else that plays this game legitimately.
tragic reality, but in simple words, yeah.
Solid takes
If I have a 'first ban', can I have second chance?
Honestly I think this is the one thing nexon has done right 💀💀💀
TRUEEEEEE
@@akkad398 aye bro do you play reboot? I recently been trying to get into it again and I’ve been seeking for friends and shit in the game. Would you be down to help a bro out?
@@anthonylopez2149 yes I do, i have a guild called artillery and a discord server check em out that's the best bet to get help when starting
next time hes back he gotta train it all without wild totem omegaLUL
He's not coming back sadly, he made a response video where he states clearly that he has no intention of coming back
back to target!
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Duky is hacker .
Super disappointing, just recently got into his videos because he was entertaining. Didn't even know he was #1. He definitely didn't have to cheat.
tragic indeed
I'm surprised Perhapsody hasn't been banned for his history of botting, maybe because of this drama more things will come to light and nexon will take stronger actions against people who break TOS.
it's probably the case with zerobydivide as well. I'm sure nexon learned a lesson, and will not be allowing content creators to walk away scott free when they willingly cheat knowing it's against the TOS
iirc he got banned only for a month
what did jeff do
@@unCrownD has been banned on Maplestory numerous times, think it's like 3 or 4 times
When his account was banned on live his acting was terrible, pretending like he didn’t know what he did lol
that was the biggest issue for me in the whole debacle
At least they don't play favorites and ban top streamers
true rules are rules and they handled like they would for anyone else.
granted they did give special treatment to ZeroByDivide which I dont like
@@akkad398 yeah it's a game should be even to everyone.
o7 you know its coming
W take from W streamer
W gang out here BABYYYYY
People had opinions and misgivings about Duky for his first ban, most seemed to give him the benefit of doubt, which is reasonable. His previous ban is no reason to think or speak poorly of him, people do change. The same is true here, but the publicity and behavior of Nexon makes me think the first ban was justified, as well as this one. I am glad he has seemed to be personally okay through this ban. His behavior is likely where other people's discontent and anger comes from; this ban and last ban, he acts dumbfounded and professes his innocence, doubt still exists with the first ban, but not with this one. If he hasn't spoken up about it, it seemed Nexon was allowing him the opportunity to keep his dignity, and keep ambiguity around the reason for his ban.
I do hope he comes back to mushroom game, his contributions are valuable to the game and the community. Give it a few months or so. Maybe with Savior.
Your justification for feeling this way is totally valid
what are you talking about? He was anything but "personally ok through this ban" you are either uninformed or delusional
@@kaiserplays9016 he was upset, sure, which is reasonable. He wasn't threatening harm to himself or others, and he wasn't threatening criminal action.
Upset, not irrational.
Yo look who's back, back again Akkad's back, tell a friend.
Also go watch star wars already.
I would, but we got content to make
Also, akkads back, back again
YEP
Sadge
Sadge indeed
I understand where you're coming from, and I don't condone any of the harassment or racism he's said that he's gotten from this, but I don't think the community is a big problem. Duky was a controversial person for many, so when he got banned for hacking of course people are gonna revel in it. He's been elitist, stirred the pot with tier lists, fanned the flames of unnecessary drama, said a lot of things in genuine poor taste, and other overall toxic behavior. You can argue that a lot of the stuff he did was a joke, but it's only a joke when everyone's in on it, and you can't just hide behind that as a defense. Plus the way he acted in the immediate aftermath did him no favors. I just hope he can learn from this and move on. Admittedly, I'm probably not gonna keep watching if he's not doing stuff maple related, but he's put in a ton of hours on twitch so his work shouldn't just go to waste. Hacking to progress yourself faster in a video game isn't enough to warrant his livelihood going down the drain.
everything you saying is straight facts, W
He definitely did something stupid or shady. Else, why isn't nexon banning my account or your account.
oh for sure, there is solid evidence to prove that this is the case.
Hope he can come back with a clean account but my god imagine the lost progress....
I doubt this is the case, but if he does come back I'm sure his people would accept him back with open arms
@@akkad398 As they should imho It's a video game at the end of the day and duky was a entertaining streamer.
He'll resort to cheating as per usual.
@@nou2716 so cheating is okay because its a video game?
Chetaers get punished.
thus is true sir
Who is duky? Sounds like he needs some lemonade
a glass of lemonade will fix everyone right back up :)
His first main account got banned now he basically gets 2 bans one on a new main account and one on a botting account in Al 3 cases he deserved the ban nothing against the guy but he should not come back part of the community will stand behind him I will always respect that but if you come back after 3 bans you can expect a lot of hate not justifying it also a thing that nobody really talks about is the amount of times he say imagine I get banned right now when he dcs I have watched a few streams here and there and some what feels like he was expecting it to happen at some point but again nothing against the guy seem like a decent dude but don’t think it’s smart for him to come back
he's openly stated that is the case now, he made great content and will be missed a tragedy truly
Dude, nexon does nothing against mesos sellers - macro - sharing accounts - any TOS violationship in non reboot servers.
this is really sad and this is why people is quitting the game because they does nothing against those people who, at end of the day doesn't let us play properly.
I'm not a great fan of duky but I'm really disappointed with nexon right now
I can understand your frustrations, but this is a part of their active effort to make sure that these cheaters don't get through. And sometimes it isn't perfect yes, but one can only witness the active cheating that exists in regular servers currently and not anything that nexon has done to prevent these efforts. It is a situation that must be viewed from both perspectives, it's not very easy to make sure that 100% of cheating goes undetected.
How are you disappointed in nexon? If anything this shows how in depth they go to issues revolving their game. Gm Lex needs a raise.
@@runeman105 keep dickriding nexon. wow they banned 1 out of the thousands cheating everyday amazing job!
imagine farming for meso in non reboot
@@faciality Imagine playing reg servers at all lmfao
Common Akkad W
W gang only BABY
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He's shady
Slim shady? 💀
I disagree with the timing of the ban and how other content creators have handled it ( I unsubscribed from a quite a bit of content creators, truly disgusted by their actions, their content pales in comparison, so i understand why they need to punch up, but still). I agree with your notion that i hope he can move on and find his next passion.
I think it really shines a bad light. Considering that content creators are supposed to be professional when it comes to these situations as well. Whether you like the guy or not, saying what's real and keeping your emotions out of these situations are the most important things to do.
Dude straight up lied and talked down to everyone!!! This is just pure justice tbh that’s why people are making it a big deal
@@plaguedoctor5657 in the grand scheme of things, it isn't a big deal. not sure why people are celebrating like they won the superbowl. it isn't that deep. lets hope he moves on.
@@plaguedoctor5657 I totally understand, but keep the feelings and emotions private, if they wanted to make videos or content regarding the topic, that's 100% fine, the issue is that putting emotions before the facts is what creates a lot of these negative scenarios that lead to straight up harassment which is totally not deserved
@@akkad398 you’re completely right man. It’s hard not to let emotions get involved with a game we all belove. I guess it just made me feel personally offended each time I watched him stream with others and he would call out their equips for not being good enough etc…. Again it’s a weird situation on every end lol
doesnt actually make sense to that he would, knowing that the public eye is on him. He should have been more careful using another account, but still. BIG L on community for sending him death threats and being racist. He was a big change in the scene, bringing fresh ideals to the section. He honestly brought me back to the game. I am not particularly excited to see the same boring content from these other creators.
you are acting like even a slightly significant amount off ppl were throwing out death threats and failing to acknowledge his attempt to defame and gaslight gms and send hate to them ON STREAM WITH THEIR NAME SHOWN, Even the most unbiased Duky fans are biased
Not saying that defaming and gaslighting was not wrong. But both can be wrong. Lol your funny
@@kaiserplays9016 yo that’s ACTUALLY crazy i already lost my respect for him guess he’s just a shit human being too 😕
He should have never done it. Full stop. He would have been fine making videos etc but he is the one who put his account at risk. It's on him and no one else.
@TN Bro went for the winning argument and ignored where I said that the ppl making death threats and stuff were insignificant, if you just want to say that those ppl are wrong it's not a very hot take, what's the point of that statement
Yeah definitely don’t smear hate on duky he is a human being just like us although i think they handled it rather unprofessionally and the fact that they had to state the timing of the ban being mere coincidence is laughable. This also could explain why his account got banned in the first time he got banned
that would be some good insight if we know why he got banned the first time and why it lead to the instant perma the second time. but I really think nexon couldn't have handled this situation any better. They did what they needed to, and in all reality it was kind of the other way around to be fair
You do realize Nexon was being really professional about the situation until Duky was trying to make his community harass them.
@@ryancrail2145 right right, and reddit cooked him with hard proof he knew what he was on, hiding characters behind portal and all in the 250 maps 🤦🏽♂️
@@joeygoldberg6007 i doubt hes gonna quit maple lol probably just gonna make a 3rd account and keep it a secret
@@ryancrail2145 like the first time he got banned? See? Pattern 🕵️♂️ 🧐 📕
Keep him banned!! All of his accounts lol
But carring isnt cheating 😂
Carrying?
@@akkad398 carying is a form of hacks since its unfair to all players
@@Stargazer221 but all players can be carried? Just ask someone. It’s different than abusing actual skill injections in a game
@@plaguedoctor5657 u think u can get carries so easly man. Some players dont have carries no one hands out free bm and hard lotus will or serim carries breh you gotta know people and have them willing to carry u thats called hacks cause its a faster method to arcane. Some prople stronger than me and level 257 and still no arcane. Dome people liberate faster and just quit the game cause bm is the last boss there nothing to do after bm. Once you kill bm its the final boss. Dont even matter about level no more lol
@@Stargazer221 how old are you to think that way? That's waay too innocent.