So cool that you got to see and hear a film score being recorded! My sight reading isn't what it used to be, but any professional symphony is made up of badass MFrs that sight read on a daily basis and make it sound effortless! The technical aspect of everyone recording having their own private cue headphone mixes, the sheer amount of expensive ribbon microphones used is staggering! Listen to any old Frank Sinatra albums. The Count Basie Orchestra directed by Quincy Jones and Frank. If it wasn't right, they had to do it again! Younger people please understand they didn't have editing like we do now. Get it right in ONE TAKE! The band always HAS to nail it! Love TESTED! Love Still Untitled! ART is LIFE! ART is LOVE! Thanks for sharing your grand experience with the world! Cheers Adam, Norm, and Will!!!
Before recorded music, in order to enjoy music, unless you lived in a large city with an orchestra, you had to be able to play (and read) music yourself. Music literacy used to be so much more...prevalent. As a lifelong musician, it totally tickles me how you guys think it's magic :) I guess I just take it for granted. Must be similar to how I think Adam's fabrication skills are like magic
Everyone in our family plays one or more instrument, but the ability to sit down and sight read at a professional level is still close to magic. Most musicians even at a professional level need some rehearsal time to get to a recordable level of perfection. These studio orchestra guys are operating at a ridiculously high level.
I think all musicians take it for granted until we realize that some people aren't used to dealing with and playing with a large group. Good stuff. Pretty lucky that I have that opportunity.
It is definitely magic. I've been playing guitar for 20 years, but wasn't taught anything and never learned to read music, so it still astounds me that people can just play something they've never played or even heard before.
Being a session player myself working on scores is an amazing production and experience. The history of those caliber musicians is fascinating. A wonderful example of this in a broad musical sense is the documentary The Wrecking Crew. It's on Netflix and is about the band of musicians from the 60s and 70s "The first call gang" responsible for the music backing scores of iconic stars from Frank Sinatra to The Mama's and the Papas and Bob Dylan. Wonderfully talented session players such as Hal Blaine Earl Palmer Carol Kaye (female pioneer in the indystry) Tommy Todesco even Glen Campbell who could literally play anything and everything. Highly recommended if you're interested in some insight. Awesome upload guys love everything that you do!!
Disneyland in California offers a real cool workshop for high school band tours that is the same Norm's VR idea. In the actual park you go into a recording studio with all your instruments and they have you pick a Disney movie and a scene. Pretty much any Disney movie is on the table, based on the size and instrumentation of your high school band. Then they hand out all the music for the score of that scene, and you sight read and play through a couple of times. Then they hit record. When they get a good recording they dim the lights and play the scene from the movie with your high school band playing in place of the actual score. We picked a transition scene from Atlantis. One of the coolest experiences ever. They do it for choir tours as well. Way to go Disney.
Mentioning the orchestra thing (about them sounding really great the first time): After being in band for many years in school, I've learned why it often sounds really amazing the first time a band plays a piece together. One of the things our head teacher and lead conductor loved doing is having us do a dry run of the songs we'd play. Now, we were young people still learning to play, not super experienced professionals. When playing a song together and hearing it all around you the first time while reading the music, it's often like reading a story for the first time. You're following along the notes and hearing your fellow members play while you're playing and it can often feel very emotional. Afterwards, we'd practice, practice, practice, but often times there were things we would accidentally do the first time around that our teachers and conductors would have us do each time to perfect our individual sound apart from say other bands in competitions. It's a pretty cool experience.
as a amateur highschool musician i can attest to how hard it is, at a highschool level, to see a sheet of music for the first time and attempt to play it perfectly, it is nearly impossible. i have great admiration for the people who are able to play music perfectly the first time
That idea of Norm's at 12:12 was brilliant. You could just stroll through the orchestra pit, walk up to the string section and hear them amplified, and then walk up to an individual instrument and listen to it with the rest of the orchestra almost muted. (And then you could push aside the timpanist and just drum-solo over all that Strawinski.)
The Tutti Music Player is kind of like that. The jazz band I was in about four years ago demoed it and it was pretty cool then. I'm not sure what else they've added since then. tuttiplayer.com/
I would recommend The Fountain film score. One of my favorites. Clint Mansell does some amazing work. He's scored Requiem for a dream, PI, Black Swan, all Darren Aronofsky films really, and Moon, among other films. Would definitely recommend.
You will love the Bandai Falcon in 1/ 144 scale, but may I suggest that you also get the Paragrafix photo-etched sheet for your build. really adds to the kit.
James Remar was also notably in The Warriors, played Dexter's dad, aannnnndd was first cast as Hicks in Aliens but was removed after the first week and replaced with Michael Biehn.
We were told during a Warner Brothers lot tour that every member of the orchestras that record movie scores are free agents and each of them have their own agent like an actor does.
As a music educator and composer, thanks for this episode. You're always great, but this one is my fave by a long shot. Also, check out the X-men First Class soundtrack by Henry Jackman. Magneto's theme captures him perfectly.
UM you forgot Jurassic Park : The Lost World videogame Will! A pretty huge gig, and a precursor to his scoring Jurassic World. The score is really faithful and well done in that videogame too. Worth a listen
TFA didn't have a spoiler track name, but TPM had *several*. 9. "Anakin Defeats Sebulba" 15. "Qui-Gon's Noble End" 16. "The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral"
I still have the micro machine Y-Wing from when I was a kid. I remember the details on that model was a step above most other micro machines. Kinda funny to think Adam built the original.
I don't remember if you guys ever talked about It Fallows. I thought it was great and had a very interesting score that I thought really pushed the limits on what a score could be.
They took one week off. They said in various podcasts and on the site that they would because they were really busy last week. Similarly Norm tweeted yesterday that he had trouble with hotel rooms last night so there may not be a TIOAT this week if he can't get it sorted out.
"A secret Conclave of Nerds". "Cabal of Nerds." "Nerd-Cabal"? Lessee. "Cabal" sounds more like a longstanding hierarchical organization of the Ruling Nerds, who have gotten themselves in a position of being in charge of things, whether openly or not. Like a kind of Shadow Government. Whereas the "Conclave" part would merely be one of their occasional meetings. Maybe this would all sound less potentially threatening, if we instead called this Nerd-VIP-secret-event thing something else. "Geek-Moot"?
If you're looking for a good movie score that's just lovely to listen to, check out "How to Train Your Dragon". I cannot speak highly enough of this album. It's breathtaking, it soars. There are several points where it makes me tear up and there are pieces that I will just put on repeat and sit back and listen to again and again and again. It's usually hard to push me to pick a favorite anything, but this is, hands down, my favorite movie score (at least for now). How to Train Your Dragon 2 has a similarly lovely score, but I think the first one still tops it for me, and I think it's because of the hero theme that is so prevalent and satisfying, it's less present in the second film in favor of other themes that take its place.
If anyone's looking for a good movie score, the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon soundtrack with Yo You Ma is spectacular. Also any of the Joe Hisaishi scores for Miyazaki's films, Princess Mononoke is my favorite. AND if you're feeling like tackling some Reapers, exploring the galaxy, and making really difficult choices, there's always Jack Wall's composition for Mass Effect (1 and 2). :)
Holy shit what an idea!! We could just sit and watch them or turn and look around the workshop at the 'candy store' of amazing props and tools everywhere!
mythbusters is now reference. my local news channel in florida used the alligator story about running in a straight line or a swerving from side to side as reference about how to get away from a alligator. when taking about the 2 year old that got eaten at disney while wading in the water at 9oclock at night.
Nooo, the first CoD wasn't Saving Private Ryan, you're thinking of Medal of Honour Frontline (my first PS2 Game). CoD was the one that started with Stalingrad and being given an ammo clip and no gun :)
Sorry, I can't actually find your previous comment. Being a console peasant, I never played Allied Assault. I must admit I thought you meant 2005's European Assault and were talking out of your arse, but actually a quick Google search proves you totally right; the Normandy scene in Frontline was actually a port of the scene from Allied Assault. Nice spot there, thanks :)
How do all the beats land where they're supposed to? Math. Lots of discussion, math, & SMPTE codes. Giacchino is genius. My teacher at Berklee said the greats are great for a reason. They put in the work. It's a behemoth of a task, and not accomplished by just one guy. It's a team effort.
He was on IMDB researching the topic the were talking about and drawing from that to further the conversation, and you're right disastrix47, they all do it at times and the stream of hate doesn't appear, i think it's trendy to hate on will and people who think Will might simply not be their favourite, know that if they post hating on him that they'll get likes :p
The soundtrack for the video game Fotonica is quite good! Check the game as well if you haven't yet as well. santaragione.bandcamp.com/album/fotonica-original-soundtrack
Everything about an unseen movie is a spoiler. In a perfect world, I would find myself in front of a screen with no clue as to what was about to unfold
You know its funny, for a long time I have had a growing dislike for Will on this channel. He was tolerable during the 1 day build segments, but recently I find that he seems to have an attitude, one that that rubs me the wrong way. People can say I am wrong or being troll-like, but it was my opinion. I kept it to myself because I actually make a point now on not posting something if it isn't positive. Well on this segment I found myself yelling at him to let Norm finish a thought and to quit cutting Adam off. Not actually that unusual. Then he stops, right in the middle of pod cast to fart with his phone!!!! Nice work Will....
I'm sure that they welcome your ideas on how to fund the site without sponsors or premium members. Personally as a founding premium member, I would prefer that they made all material open to all, but I imagine that some premium members wouldn't pay if they could get the material without paying.
a secret conclave of nerds? Gasp! the illuminerdy!
NerdConclaveOfNerds?
You guys are awesome, thanks for doing the podcast for everyone.
So cool that you got to see and hear a film score being recorded! My sight reading isn't what it used to be, but any professional symphony is made up of badass MFrs that sight read on a daily basis and make it sound effortless! The technical aspect of everyone recording having their own private cue headphone mixes, the sheer amount of expensive ribbon microphones used is staggering! Listen to any old Frank Sinatra albums. The Count Basie Orchestra directed by Quincy Jones and Frank. If it wasn't right, they had to do it again! Younger people please understand they didn't have editing like we do now. Get it right in ONE TAKE! The band always HAS to nail it! Love TESTED! Love Still Untitled! ART is LIFE! ART is LOVE! Thanks for sharing your grand experience with the world! Cheers Adam, Norm, and Will!!!
Before recorded music, in order to enjoy music, unless you lived in a large city with an orchestra, you had to be able to play (and read) music yourself. Music literacy used to be so much more...prevalent. As a lifelong musician, it totally tickles me how you guys think it's magic :) I guess I just take it for granted. Must be similar to how I think Adam's fabrication skills are like magic
Well said! Cheers!
Everyone in our family plays one or more instrument, but the ability to sit down and sight read at a professional level is still close to magic. Most musicians even at a professional level need some rehearsal time to get to a recordable level of perfection. These studio orchestra guys are operating at a ridiculously high level.
I think all musicians take it for granted until we realize that some people aren't used to dealing with and playing with a large group. Good stuff. Pretty lucky that I have that opportunity.
It is definitely magic. I've been playing guitar for 20 years, but wasn't taught anything and never learned to read music, so it still astounds me that people can just play something they've never played or even heard before.
What is magic to me is people who can look at a score and tell what the entire piece sounds like. I have a friend who is a composer and can do that.
Being a session player myself working on scores is an amazing production and experience. The history of those caliber musicians is fascinating. A wonderful example of this in a broad musical sense is the documentary The Wrecking Crew. It's on Netflix and is about the band of musicians from the 60s and 70s "The first call gang" responsible for the music backing scores of iconic stars from Frank Sinatra to The Mama's and the Papas and Bob Dylan. Wonderfully talented session players such as Hal Blaine Earl Palmer Carol Kaye (female pioneer in the indystry) Tommy Todesco even Glen Campbell who could literally play anything and everything. Highly recommended if you're interested in some insight. Awesome upload guys love everything that you do!!
20 years and insane amount practice, that's how you get these amazing Orchestras! Tested should visit the Opera and see how its all done live!
Disneyland in California offers a real cool workshop for high school band tours that is the same Norm's VR idea. In the actual park you go into a recording studio with all your instruments and they have you pick a Disney movie and a scene. Pretty much any Disney movie is on the table, based on the size and instrumentation of your high school band. Then they hand out all the music for the score of that scene, and you sight read and play through a couple of times. Then they hit record. When they get a good recording they dim the lights and play the scene from the movie with your high school band playing in place of the actual score. We picked a transition scene from Atlantis. One of the coolest experiences ever. They do it for choir tours as well. Way to go Disney.
Mentioning the orchestra thing (about them sounding really great the first time): After being in band for many years in school, I've learned why it often sounds really amazing the first time a band plays a piece together. One of the things our head teacher and lead conductor loved doing is having us do a dry run of the songs we'd play. Now, we were young people still learning to play, not super experienced professionals. When playing a song together and hearing it all around you the first time while reading the music, it's often like reading a story for the first time. You're following along the notes and hearing your fellow members play while you're playing and it can often feel very emotional. Afterwards, we'd practice, practice, practice, but often times there were things we would accidentally do the first time around that our teachers and conductors would have us do each time to perfect our individual sound apart from say other bands in competitions. It's a pretty cool experience.
as a amateur highschool musician i can attest to how hard it is, at a highschool level, to see a sheet of music for the first time and attempt to play it perfectly, it is nearly impossible. i have great admiration for the people who are able to play music perfectly the first time
John Williams' son Joseph was the lead singer for Toto from '86 - '88. He was also the vocalist for adult Simba in The Lion King.
That idea of Norm's at 12:12 was brilliant. You could just stroll through the orchestra pit, walk up to the string section and hear them amplified, and then walk up to an individual instrument and listen to it with the rest of the orchestra almost muted. (And then you could push aside the timpanist and just drum-solo over all that Strawinski.)
The Tutti Music Player is kind of like that. The jazz band I was in about four years ago demoed it and it was pretty cool then. I'm not sure what else they've added since then. tuttiplayer.com/
This looks very cool! Thank you!
I would recommend The Fountain film score. One of my favorites. Clint Mansell does some amazing work. He's scored Requiem for a dream, PI, Black Swan, all Darren Aronofsky films really, and Moon, among other films. Would definitely recommend.
Mansell's old band, Pop Will Eat Itself are really good as well.
I actually have never listened to them before. I'll definitely give them a listen
The video games JJ played were the original Medal of Honour Games
Bandai kits are in their own class. Much more a wedge together than a snap together fit resulting from precise engineering and molding.
having the mic cover half your face = the price of good audio
but seriously chill with the mics, a simple rode pro mic or similar would be able to pic up everyones voices clearly
+Ken Anderson your right, it's not 1974 anymore. Lol
You will love the Bandai Falcon in 1/ 144 scale, but may I suggest that you also get the Paragrafix photo-etched sheet for your build. really adds to the kit.
Two best shirts I ever bought: 1. Vending machine, Hotel Washington in Tokyo 2. Department store in Düsseldorf. Nothing in the US has come close
James Remar was also notably in The Warriors, played Dexter's dad, aannnnndd was first cast as Hicks in Aliens but was removed after the first week and replaced with Michael Biehn.
We were told during a Warner Brothers lot tour that every member of the orchestras that record movie scores are free agents and each of them have their own agent like an actor does.
James Remar is in THE WARRIORS! How could you skip over that?
Ajax!!!
As a music educator and composer, thanks for this episode. You're always great, but this one is my fave by a long shot.
Also, check out the X-men First Class soundtrack by Henry Jackman. Magneto's theme captures him perfectly.
James Remar also played Ajax in The Warriors (1979)
UM you forgot Jurassic Park : The Lost World videogame Will! A pretty huge gig, and a precursor to his scoring Jurassic World. The score is really faithful and well done in that videogame too. Worth a listen
anyone else notice that Norm ran two different sponsor ads between the beginning and end of the podcast?
TFA didn't have a spoiler track name, but TPM had *several*.
9. "Anakin Defeats Sebulba"
15. "Qui-Gon's Noble End"
16. "The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral"
I still have the micro machine Y-Wing from when I was a kid. I remember the details on that model was a step above most other micro machines. Kinda funny to think Adam built the original.
Is Simone Giertz always gonna be in the outskirts of the video?? I WANT MORE SHITTY FUCKING ROBOTS!!!
Agreed. The world requires more Simone.
Marty Scorsese's After Hours has a wonderful score. Highly underrated.
I don't remember if you guys ever talked about It Fallows. I thought it was great and had a very interesting score that I thought really pushed the limits on what a score could be.
It feels like I have been waiting forever for another episode! Why so late?
They took one week off. They said in various podcasts and on the site that they would because they were really busy last week. Similarly Norm tweeted yesterday that he had trouble with hotel rooms last night so there may not be a TIOAT this week if he can't get it sorted out.
7:49
Norm's inside voice "I hate you adam" and Will having a Nerdgasm.
If Adam is still looking for Gundam kit recommendations, I suggest Master Grade Turn A Gundam and Turn X, they are designed by Syd Mead.
Definitely read American Alien. The 7th issue wasn't as strong as the rest; but the early issues are super strong.
1:02 ad skip
James Remar played Dexter's dad in the Dexter Series.. That's where i remember him from
Listening to non-audio people geek out over a recording studio. It's funny enough that I'm managing to not yell at the screen :-)
"A secret Conclave of Nerds". "Cabal of Nerds." "Nerd-Cabal"? Lessee. "Cabal" sounds more like a longstanding hierarchical organization of the Ruling Nerds, who have gotten themselves in a position of being in charge of things, whether openly or not. Like a kind of Shadow Government. Whereas the "Conclave" part would merely be one of their occasional meetings.
Maybe this would all sound less potentially threatening, if we instead called this Nerd-VIP-secret-event thing something else. "Geek-Moot"?
Geek-moot
Introduced my 15 year old son to Rambo thanks to Adam. He enjoyed it.
michael giacchino my most loved videogame music composer.
Favorite film score has to be from the Daniel Day Lewis "Last Of The Mohicans" (turns out, there is more than one film by that name.)
I think Will was thinking of the Phantom Menace soundtrack that has a track titled "Qui-Gon's noble end".
More awesome John Williams trivia...John's son, Joe Williams is the lead singer of the rock band, Toto. Must suck to have musical genes like that :)
If you're looking for a good movie score that's just lovely to listen to, check out "How to Train Your Dragon". I cannot speak highly enough of this album. It's breathtaking, it soars. There are several points where it makes me tear up and there are pieces that I will just put on repeat and sit back and listen to again and again and again.
It's usually hard to push me to pick a favorite anything, but this is, hands down, my favorite movie score (at least for now).
How to Train Your Dragon 2 has a similarly lovely score, but I think the first one still tops it for me, and I think it's because of the hero theme that is so prevalent and satisfying, it's less present in the second film in favor of other themes that take its place.
If anyone's looking for a good movie score, the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon soundtrack with Yo You Ma is spectacular. Also any of the Joe Hisaishi scores for Miyazaki's films, Princess Mononoke is my favorite. AND if you're feeling like tackling some Reapers, exploring the galaxy, and making really difficult choices, there's always Jack Wall's composition for Mass Effect (1 and 2). :)
James Remar was famously sacked from Aliens - that's where a lot of 'genre' fans know him from.
That's how I feed my Eel
YES!!!
Oculus had awesome soft Shirts for the GamesCom (Cologne, Germany) :33
Will really needs to stop saying "that looks like a good a place as any to wrap it up" he must have said it a million times.
You guys should do a 360 podcast.
Holy shit what an idea!! We could just sit and watch them or turn and look around the workshop at the 'candy store' of amazing props and tools everywhere!
For movie scores, I cant recommend Mondo-Tees releases have all been amazing quality.
mythbusters is now reference. my local news channel in florida used the alligator story about running in a straight line or a swerving from side to side as reference about how to get away from a alligator. when taking about the 2 year old that got eaten at disney while wading in the water at 9oclock at night.
NO place is a good place to wrap it up, I want MORE MORE MORE.
20:11 I think that Peter Sagal looks more like Steven Ogg, the voice actor and physical model for Trevor Philips in GTA5.
Nooo, the first CoD wasn't Saving Private Ryan, you're thinking of Medal of Honour Frontline (my first PS2 Game). CoD was the one that started with Stalingrad and being given an ammo clip and no gun :)
Nope, check my previous comment. MoH: Allied Assault
Sorry, I can't actually find your previous comment. Being a console peasant, I never played Allied Assault.
I must admit I thought you meant 2005's European Assault and were talking out of your arse, but actually a quick Google search proves you totally right; the Normandy scene in Frontline was actually a port of the scene from Allied Assault.
Nice spot there, thanks :)
Alexander Rowley You're very welcome. There are enough idiots that seem to love talking out of their ass, so I tend to avoid that.
James Remar - is in the Warriors
How do all the beats land where they're supposed to? Math. Lots of discussion, math, & SMPTE codes. Giacchino is genius. My teacher at Berklee said the greats are great for a reason. They put in the work. It's a behemoth of a task, and not accomplished by just one guy. It's a team effort.
love it
I like Will.
He plays with his phone when someone is talking to him. Screw that guy! ;-)
Adam has done it too and I don't see anyone hating on him.
He was on IMDB researching the topic the were talking about and drawing from that to further the conversation, and you're right disastrix47, they all do it at times and the stream of hate doesn't appear, i think it's trendy to hate on will and people who think Will might simply not be their favourite, know that if they post hating on him that they'll get likes :p
disastrix47
I'm teasing..
Will stutters more than Woody Allen
I've come up with the name of the podcast: Savage Humblebrags.
You guys didn't mention that Giacchino also did Zootopia's soundtrack
rillegas08 Why would they? You don't talk about the entombment when talking about Michaelangelo's works.
I'd say James Remar is most known as Dexters dad.
No, Daniel Craig supposedly is the Storm Trooper that turns the other one to walk the other way.
is that The Spear of Longinus from hellboy?...the real on screen used one?..or a replica?
I need to know what's going on in San Fransisco right now that has you three wearing long sleeves. We're boiling down here.
Adam: Check out 'Modelmaking Guru' here on TH-cam, if you wanted to add more to your Gundam kits.
Will got medal of honor and call of duty mixed up right?
I thought call of duty was band of brothers the video game
Where is Simone, why don't I see any Simone??
Interstellar has one of the best scores ever.
Sight Reading FTW
Dexter's dad!
That's how I feed my eel
The soundtrack for the video game Fotonica is quite good! Check the game as well if you haven't yet as well.
santaragione.bandcamp.com/album/fotonica-original-soundtrack
Did will make a HIMYM joke? 12:45
I dunno, the only Star Trek film that had a memorable sound track for me was the Wrath of Kahn.
Really? The score for that film is outstanding. But the score for Star Trek 2009 and Star Trek into Darkness are simply magnificent.
I guess nothing has ever been as memorable as James Horner's 'Surprise Attack' for me
Its like in Titanic's OST theres this track called The sinking of titanic!!! Come on!!! SPOILER ALERT! I loved Horner he was awesome.
If Han actually dies I'm gonna be so pissed at you guys!
mango was here
Everything about an unseen movie is a spoiler. In a perfect world, I would find myself in front of a screen with no clue as to what was about to unfold
I hate Will.
you guys keep talking im going to start fucking with my phone during the podcast. unprofessional
I wish he would leave ALL of tested.
You know its funny, for a long time I have had a growing dislike for Will on this channel. He was tolerable during the 1 day build segments, but recently I find that he seems to have an attitude, one that that rubs me the wrong way. People can say I am wrong or being troll-like, but it was my opinion. I kept it to myself because I actually make a point now on not posting something if it isn't positive. Well on this segment I found myself yelling at him to let Norm finish a thought and to quit cutting Adam off. Not actually that unusual. Then he stops, right in the middle of pod cast to fart with his phone!!!! Nice work Will....
I thought he left tested, now hes back, half the comments on the videos are anti will, do they keep him there because he tries so hard to copy adam?
CreepyCooter Hes only there because hes a star fucker and is in love with Adam.
7th!!!
Hello
I'm finding it difficult to watch these now because I'm distracted by just how often Adam rubs his nose.
sponsors & charging for "premium" content - not a fan of that
I'm sure that they welcome your ideas on how to fund the site without sponsors or premium members.
Personally as a founding premium member, I would prefer that they made all material open to all, but I imagine that some premium members wouldn't pay if they could get the material without paying.
disney and death sort of suck
First