Riiil. Gua jg kalo main gitu dulu wkwk, tapi karena sering ngeliat stream bani, jadi sadar kalo nyalahin orang itu tidak baik. Oleh karena itu, ambil hikmahnya aja kalo nonton bani 😇
Seruu coy di twitter wkwkwkkw Orang jepang/korea fans nth : "ga bakal rasis kalo fl1pz gak mulai duluan" Orang india : "ini kelewatan, kita sebagai komunitas india lagi lagi jadi korban rasisme dalam dunia valorant" Orang indo : waduh 😁
on one hand, i'd say flipz also has a fault, he could've handle things better and not agitate his teammate further but on the other hand, it's a ranked match not a professional match, im pretty sure you have met these kind of people that always agitate you right, so you should be used to that, if a normal valorant player can keep their calm, why cant the pros do it?
i thought trash talk like anime is not that deep, I mean that just for fun IF AND ONLY IF THE PLAYER DIDNT REFER THE ANIME TO THE PLAYER, but calling him as an Indian with fully concerned is totally racist, not too offensive and defensive at the same time, but TenTen is directly give racist comment on flipzjder.
@@Fireflies677ga peduli mau yg mancing siapa, disini konteksnya bukan lomba mancing... Tpi rasismenya. Klo lu kepancing dan lu ngerasis ya itu juga salahlu
Tinggal nunggu waktu aja ini tenten, NTH di twitter udah announce lagi investigasi. Beruntung juga ini Bani, zaman dia vs rossi, komunitas valo belum segede serame skrg. Atau pas zaman tweet dia ke wronski. Skrg toxicnya doang yang masih. Turunin ego ban, gak setiap ribut2 rank diladenin, mending mute, lu udah di franchise. One of the best indo player juga, sayang karir klo kemudian hari karir bermasalah gara-gara rank. Ah tp tau apa gue soal~
maaf mau nanya bro, soal tweet dia ke wronski emang soal toxic apa ya? kebetulan saya gak ngikutin komunitas valo dan hanya sekedar play aja kalau ada waktu luang
@@raiden1944 masalah lah, toxic mau in game atau di luar game ya bermasalah. Klo konteks nanya/komentarin bad play baru gpp, klo udah ngatain, sejelek apapun teammate/musuh, ya salah.
@@alestha waktu jaman LCQ champions tahun lalu. Wronski bilang pas di twitch stream kalo mereka kek bakal perform bagus di LCQ dan cukup ngebantai boom gitu di scrim. Dia juga bilang boom pake alesan high ping supaya ngehindar dari scrim lawan mereka. Bani notice hal tersebut dan komentarin berbagai hal. Yang salahnya itu Bani sampe rasis (dan banyak yang dukung juga, emang aneh orang indo). Bani bilang si Wronski kayak bego gitu, otaknya kecil(?) Gara gara orang Laos itu kebanyakan makan ikan.
Gua bingung sama player Korea. Dibacotin dikit ngomong org toxic, lebih parah dripada Gen Z Indo ampun dah wkwkwkw. Kemarin wilson bahas juga tuh pas Dplus vs Scarz, jadi inget lagi klo emg mental player korea masih kacang. Make sense klo DRX ditakutin tpi masuk final pun mereka belum pernah dan mentok di 3rd. Apalagi klo udah ilang momentum, rungkad semua mentalnya awkwowk
Nah makanya waktu drx lawan ts kalah tuh karna ga time out makanya mentalnya kena, pas time out baru mentalnya balik lagi, itu si yg gua tangkep dari komen lu.
@@Yoimiyanyaa lu nonton dah yg vidio stax, xeta sama dari gen g, stax bilang ga ada yg bisa ngalahin drx di pacific trs prx ga bakal bisa ngalahin drx trs xeta ngomong kaya lu berani bertanggung jawab ama kata" Lu dan skearang drx udah kalah 3X ama prx😂
Kan emng tabiat org korea gitu bre, mereka itu toxic & rasis tapi gampang ke trigger klo dibacotin 😂 nah 1 lg mental mereka gampang goyah kalo lawan bacotnya lebih keras wkwk
I am a Valorant-loving Japanese, and one of the reasons this happened is due to our differing senses of "discrimination". Many of us Japanese dislike "discrimination" itself. However, we do not distinguish between "discrimination" and "racism". tenten's statement is "racism", but fl1pzjder's statement seems to me to be "cultural discrimination", making fun of anime, which is one of our cultures. Also, when tenten later apologized, fl1pzjder did not stop his inciting behavior. I was going to support LCQ as well because RRQ was an interesting team to watch, but I am sorry this happened. The text may be a little strange because I am going through a translation. Sorry.
@@arbrian683 Yes, indeed. But fl1pzjder seemed to have mistaken tenten for a Japanese at first and made fun of the anime with his statement. This was the day before tenten said the racist term. In addition to this, tenten has a deep knowledge of Japanese culture and language, as both he and his brother are on the Japanese team.
@@ちょこぱい-n7tBro I bet flipdzjder also watch anime 🤣 he is obviously just joking to stop the conversation. In the first place, why don't tenten answer him the first question about watching A site when sova already clear it. Tenten just triggered suddenly when flipzjder say kencana kencana lol
@@arbrian683 I don't know what tenten thinks and I agree with a lot of your thoughts. However, if it was just an error in judgment or an argument during the game, it would not have been a big problem. In this case, the problem has become bigger because of the racist remarks. On the other hand, what do you guys think about flipzjder's sniping?
Dan lebih kocaknya lagi, udah rasis tapi salah target, bilang Reyna diff tapi musuh kagak ada Reyna. Kagak ngarti diff ngomong diff. Jadi keliatan kan kebodohannya.
dri yg gw liat sih emg ni org mancing tenten buat ketrigred pas tenten udh blunder baru di goreng ama dia. biar ketutupan kali cupunya? saran gw rrq juga harus kasih sanksi sih ke ni org. masa pro player toxic gini.
From my perspective, both sides have their own wrongs. Both were being toxic to each other, and I can understand why people wanted both players to be punished. fl1pzjder was attacking Tenten personally, from questioning Tenten's play, calling him to talk to anime, etc. But we can agree that he was attacking Tenten personally. We can see a lot of people blaming and questioning their teammate's plays, and people getting angry when their teammates criticize their plays. We can see that all the time in ranked. fl1pz told Tenten to go talk to anime were because Tenten had anime profile picture, so he was making fun of that. He weren't making fun of anime or Japanese people/culture, he was making fun of Tenten. He didn't think that Tenten is Japanese, he knew that Tenten was Korean, which is why he spoke Korean to Tenten (if anyone knows what he says in Korean means, let me know in the replies). In short, fl1pzjder was attacking and making fun of Tenten personally, and not Japanese/Korean people/culture. The Japanese and Koreans might think otherwise, but from what I see, his intentions were to be toxic to Tenten, and not to the people/culture of those countries. On the other hand, when Tenten said "f India", most people would think that he was attacking Indians as a whole. Even if he didn't bring India to this whole thing and said "f Indonesia" instead, it doesn't change the fact that he was attacking a whole country, a whole nationality, whether it was intentional or accidental. That's the reason why people say that he was being racist. His choice of words implies that he wasn't attacking fl1pz personally, like what fl1pz did to him, but he was attacking a whole region. It's not about how people interpret what he was saying, it's about the words he chose to use. I think Tenten deserved the punishment that he got. I won't be surprised if fl1pzjder also gets a punishment, and I won't be surprised if the punishment is milder than what Tenten got. Some other players got fined because they were being toxic in tournaments, so maybe fl1pz (or RRQ as a whole) will get a similar punishment. EDIT: So Tenten also got suspended for the next 4 VCT matches, while fl1pz got a warning, and if he does something like this again, he will get harsher punishment. For fl1pz, it's better than nothing, I guess. Also, Meteor aggressively teabagging fl1pz in LCQ was meant to happen
@@scigg gua udah baca mungkin karna beda budaya, emg anime dari jepang tp ngatain orang weboo atau ngejekin anime kan dilakukan ama orang Indonesia bahkan orang luar kaya us juga ngatain weebs kadang kesatu sama lain
bani bilang “go talk to ur anime” is lowkey racist too kalo kita mau liat situasi ini secara apple to apple, bedanya yang atu lebih gamblang aja rasisnya
nah itu wkwk dua-duanya sama aja klo mo disamain, tapi pada akhirnya kalo mau diaju banding, tudingan ke tenten ujung2nya bakal lebih berat bro, yg satu ngatain pake majas jdi tersirat, yg satu blak blak-an ngatain dua negara, dua duanya rasis tpi bani bisa ngelak klo dituding, beda ama tenten itu udah kartu merah. kalo suruh nebak nebak paling bani diban sementara waktu(mirip kek lemon mungkin), dan riot gbs lgsg ngambil keputusan bkin rrq out,
@@zjagaming321 "belajar racism terhadap culture 🤓" kalo bani ngelak dia bilang go talk to ur anime gara gara si tenten pake pp anime ya ke debunk semua tuduhan rasisme nya tolol. sedangkan si tenten jelas jelas bawa negara lain secara gamblang.
tapi bani streaming jaman nxl sama jaman rrq sekarang udah way better yang sekarang sih perkara nanggepin public di ranked, tapi tetep mungkin ada beberapa momen yang bikin dia gampang kepancing, cuma sekarang intensitasnya ga sesering jaman nxl, semoga ya seengganya bani diingetin aja atau ditegur kalo ranked itu jangan dibawa seserius itu sampe implikasinya kaya gini, ya tapi bisa ngerti keliatan bani orangnya punya prinsip keras pertahanin harga diri mau sempurna tiap dia main, tapi ya keep itu ketika turney atau scrim aja, ketika ranked ya yaudah keep semuanya buat dia aja kurang2in yang bisa bikin trigger sampe segininya soalnya karir dia juga udah establish, jujur secara igl kalo di indo doang kayanya bani yang paling menonjol soalnya gameplay adaptifnya bagus bgt dari jaman nxl, boom, sampe kemarin di regular season pacific league, sayang kalo karirnya harus kenapa-napa gara2 ini
Problem-nya setoxic apapun asal jgn ke rasisme, itu bener2 hukumnya haram di dunia internasional. Ngomong kasar dll, itu bisa ditegur, dll. Tp kalau organisasi sudah ada rasisme, bisa hancur 1 Kapal walaupun hanya 1 oknum. Mmg begitu bro.. So jgn rasis guys, toxic apapun masih bisa di maafkan, asal jangan rasis bahaya.
@@mamikikeyu iya emang kalo toxic pasti orang juga gabisa tahan di momen tertentu, ada kalanya kelepasan, tapi ya takut aja soalnya si bani udah beberapa kali masuk pinggir jurang ini dari jaman nxl wkwkw perkara ngatain gojo satoru aja kepanasan netijen sana takutnya aja pait2nya kedepannya bani yang kelepasan apes bisa kena juga kan sayang karirnya
Dari dulu bani memang kek gitu sih, apalagi dia juga banyak melakukan rasis, jejak digitalnya masih ada bahkan. Gue harap suatu saat Bani juga bisa kena agar dia juga tau kalau dirinya bahkan lebih parah rasisnya. Tapi memang orang korea itu terkenal rasis ke negara2 asia lainnya.
Kenapa Kalo main ke warnet gw sering ketemu orang dewasa yg umurnya udah mau tua main game omongannya ga bisa dijaga pasti ngomong" kasar sering risih juga sama orang" model begitu , hey inikan cuma permainan
sebenernya kalo tenten jawab pertanyaan bani tentang site A mah clear2 aja udh, cmn karena mungkin ego nya tinggi dan nga mau berterima ,jadinya bahasanya kemana2
Fewer Japanese will support rrq on this issue. Tenten has nothing to do with Japanese people just because they are in the Japanese region. Tenten is Korean. But the fact is that FLIPS made fun of Japanese culture. Japanese people are just victims. Would you support a team with such a player?
Japanese valorant fans have decided that tenten's contract termination was deserved, but the Japanese are very averse to ghosting and toxic, and are angry that fl1pzjder has not received the same punishment in this case! What do rrq fans think? Sorry for the difficult to read sentence due to the use of translations
I get your whole point. However, can u explain the reason for fl1pz need to be punished from japanese fans pov? i've been watch the whole clip and i can say that the starting point of this controversy is actually from fl1pz questioning Jett (TenTen) positioning and then they start to arguing to each other which is i believe still fine until Jett bought his remark about Indian and Indonesian.
sisi lain kasian sama si tenten .. Walau pun emng si bani ini manasin dia mulu ... gue gak ngedukung kedua blh pihak .. tapi sangat disayang kan si tenten ini comment rasis... ten ten skrng jobless ,, tapi dia bisa memulai karir baru di esport dengan nama baru .. dan tim baru ... gue dukung penuh valorant community yang sehat dan jangan toxic apalagi SARA!
Gw gk liat salahnya si bani disini kecuali yg "talk to your anime". Katanya si gamebrott, si bani duluan yg manas-manasin, padahal dia cuma nanya knapa tenten ke a doang, trus tenten malah jawab dengan tidak ramah. Ya si bani kesel lah. Trus bani dah diem si tenten malah bacot.
Walaupun disini Bani nimpalin dia harus sering sering jaga mulut sih, Riot tuh sensitif banget sama isu isu kaya begini. Rame dikit di Twitter bisa jadi isu. Hati hati aja. G2 aja yang tadinya mau masuk Franchising jadi nggak jadi cuma gara gara CEO nya party ama Andrew Tate. Ati Ati ban, lain kali takutnya lo yang jadi instigator.
Susah jelasin ke warga jepang culture mereka buat nanggepin racist sama toxic udah salah dimata internasional masih aja batu, sedangkan mereka paham bhs inggris aja kaga, mana ditwitter isinya bocah buzzer pendukung tenten di twtnya rrqteam udah kyk mau pilpres aja
@@lazzzy5514 I didn't put the blame in Bani's lap Bruv. All I'm saying is that Bani should be careful in the future to not get easily provoked or do things on stream. Him and his team is in Franchising now. And people are going to poke the bear and make you do something that you'll regret.
bani terlalu provoke kalo kata gua mah.. racist emang ga boleh tapi klo orang indo jga harus jaga attitude lah jgn mentang2 di pro scene jadi seenaknya trus palying victim.
i dont get why Japanese so mad like isnt it a conversation of " go watch your anime" is normal? its not discrimination of a culture. it means just stop playing and do something else you're too bad at the game.
I'm sorry not to speak ENGLISH fluently If you only see this match, it seems that one of them panicked and became racist. But seeing the two of them in their previous match, it's no wonder they're clearly fueled and furious. Racism is unforgivable, but the words and actions that caused it are also shameful. Even if you watch this match, it's stupid to make a fuss about "racism" if you're categorized while you're talking about anime In addition, tenten acknowledged non-compliance on Twitter, but I couldn't believe he was a professional gamer because he was fanning it with net slang. I don't think I can say which one is worse. The Japanese people in the 1st division are angry, and I was looking forward to the LCQ, but I no longer want to support the RRQ. This incident should have made you understand how rotten the VALORANT community is, how hard it is for general players to approach, and that only crazy people can become professional gamers😂
Fl1pz just asking "why go A?" Because sova already clear A, and then TenTen kept malding even tho fl1pz wasnt say anything afterwards.. but i think nth terminated TenTen is going to far man
@@lohelohe9665 keputusan yg tepat sih bro klo gw. soalnya udh termasuk merusak brand image jadi klo dri pandangan pembisnis ya mau gk mau. pasti ada rapat antar investor sama ownner nya dan keputusan nya udh keluar.
@@user-d8i2r i think the problem is TenTen going to far bringing the whole country of India even tho fl1pz not from india (India and Indonesia is two different country). Thats why many indian kept tagging NTH and the CEO about this... Indonesian netizen doesnt give a shit (because the problem is with Indian), but then Japanese and Korean netizen missdirected. kept comment negative and racism towards Indonesia even tho the problem is between TenTen and India not Indonesia, Korean netizen also said monkey to Southeast asia. Its triggered the Indonesian netizen too. Japanese and korean attack the Indonesian because fl1pz from Indonesia, the problem is with the player not the country, same to TenTen the problem is between him and Indian... but the Korean and Japanese kept attacking Indonesia. Thats from my perspective, sorry for my bad english. Hope you understand. Cheers, no offense.
For me, it's just overreact from tenten because fl1pz just try to clarify why tenten go a and he denial such as "Sova stay sova stay". But a lot of young generation became very denial 😩
Wkwkwk banyak komen inggris 😂 lu toxic2 aja gpp, tapi jgn rasis wkwkwk apalagi lu itu public figure/pro player, harusnya serang aja secara personal, ngapain bawa2 India wkwk salah sendiri malah playing victim
1:35 serasa di warnet spionan wkwkw
ajg iya awkwkkwk
Ajg ngakak bgsat bani hahaha
Itu dia ktmu 2ge musuh nya ya ?
@@yudiutm2435iyaa
Vibe warnet, wkwkwkw
lucu banget match nya ribut mulu + spionin si 2ge akwkkkwkwkw tapi match nya kalah mulu awokwkwkw
spionnya mahal bang owkowkw auto aim :v
@@lordkocheng1798 masalahnya si toge selalu polos dan pas bener bener ga logis baru nyadar awkwkwkwkw toge toge lucu emang anak anak rrq ph 🤣
dari level terendah compe, sampai level tertinggi pemain franchise. emang ini game toxic dan penghancur pertemananan aowkaowoak
Semua game pasti ada aja yg gini, ga mesti valo doang
Apa kabar game yg menghardik anak yat..?
@@Gw-Viewers eh eh chamber
@@seph-xe8up chamber yat....
Panik-panik dia pas dia notice bahwa dia fucked up.
semalem kita melihat azab spionase tapi ujungnya kalah wkw
Even though Tenten said he mispronounced the name of the country, his goal was still racism. This is unacceptable
Bani emg bikin bad vibes si kalau main apalagi kalau lg kalah, suka nyalah2in
Agree
Masalah nya ini udah dri live sebelum nya sama ten ten tuh
Riiil. Gua jg kalo main gitu dulu wkwk, tapi karena sering ngeliat stream bani, jadi sadar kalo nyalahin orang itu tidak baik. Oleh karena itu, ambil hikmahnya aja kalo nonton bani 😇
dia nyalahin tim tp kan cmn ngomong di streaming nya gk langsung in gamenya. mungkin pernah tp paling bentar di kacangin. Menurut gw ni
iya, kadang kalo dia lagi marah2 suka bikin males nonton
Seruu coy di twitter wkwkwkkw
Orang jepang/korea fans nth : "ga bakal rasis kalo fl1pz gak mulai duluan"
Orang india : "ini kelewatan, kita sebagai komunitas india lagi lagi jadi korban rasisme dalam dunia valorant"
Orang indo : waduh 😁
tambahin bang "dua duanya salah kenapa cuma dia yg dihukum"
@@m.irfan-7069dihukum gmn ya bang aku gk maun twitter soalny
@@m.irfan-7069emang salahnya flipz dmn?
@@paksyahtenten nya uda di putus kontrak sama tim nya,kalo ga salah ya 😅
Ada link kah bre ?
on one hand, i'd say flipz also has a fault, he could've handle things better and not agitate his teammate further
but on the other hand, it's a ranked match not a professional match, im pretty sure you have met these kind of people that always agitate you right, so you should be used to that, if a normal valorant player can keep their calm, why cant the pros do it?
i thought trash talk like anime is not that deep, I mean that just for fun IF AND ONLY IF THE PLAYER DIDNT REFER THE ANIME TO THE PLAYER, but calling him as an Indian with fully concerned is totally racist, not too offensive and defensive at the same time, but TenTen is directly give racist comment on flipzjder.
Im still confused what the problem is, he basically says "you're weeb". How tf he's racist lmao.
Yg mancing si bani sih
@@Fireflies677ga peduli mau yg mancing siapa, disini konteksnya bukan lomba mancing... Tpi rasismenya. Klo lu kepancing dan lu ngerasis ya itu juga salahlu
@@Fireflies677intinya org yg kepancing duluan yg kalah
Tinggal nunggu waktu aja ini tenten, NTH di twitter udah announce lagi investigasi.
Beruntung juga ini Bani, zaman dia vs rossi, komunitas valo belum segede serame skrg. Atau pas zaman tweet dia ke wronski. Skrg toxicnya doang yang masih. Turunin ego ban, gak setiap ribut2 rank diladenin, mending mute, lu udah di franchise. One of the best indo player juga, sayang karir klo kemudian hari karir bermasalah gara-gara rank. Ah tp tau apa gue soal~
Selama konteks toxic nya in game mah gamasalah
maaf mau nanya bro, soal tweet dia ke wronski emang soal toxic apa ya? kebetulan saya gak ngikutin komunitas valo dan hanya sekedar play aja kalau ada waktu luang
@@raiden1944 masalah lah, toxic mau in game atau di luar game ya bermasalah. Klo konteks nanya/komentarin bad play baru gpp, klo udah ngatain, sejelek apapun teammate/musuh, ya salah.
@@alestha waktu jaman LCQ champions tahun lalu. Wronski bilang pas di twitch stream kalo mereka kek bakal perform bagus di LCQ dan cukup ngebantai boom gitu di scrim. Dia juga bilang boom pake alesan high ping supaya ngehindar dari scrim lawan mereka. Bani notice hal tersebut dan komentarin berbagai hal. Yang salahnya itu Bani sampe rasis (dan banyak yang dukung juga, emang aneh orang indo). Bani bilang si Wronski kayak bego gitu, otaknya kecil(?) Gara gara orang Laos itu kebanyakan makan ikan.
@@aurum.i anjir jahat amat tuh tangan ngetik begitu buset
berawal dari "why you go A" lalu dia membahas "Toxic" ,"KdA" dan dia yg memulai toxic berakhir dengan rasis haha
Pdhal bisa kyak gini,
"Why you go a? "
"My bad, i though someone there"
Clearrrrrr gan, emg ego tinggi, di tanya malah marah.
Gua bingung sama player Korea. Dibacotin dikit ngomong org toxic, lebih parah dripada Gen Z Indo ampun dah wkwkwkw. Kemarin wilson bahas juga tuh pas Dplus vs Scarz, jadi inget lagi klo emg mental player korea masih kacang. Make sense klo DRX ditakutin tpi masuk final pun mereka belum pernah dan mentok di 3rd. Apalagi klo udah ilang momentum, rungkad semua mentalnya awkwowk
Nah makanya waktu drx lawan ts kalah tuh karna ga time out makanya mentalnya kena, pas time out baru mentalnya balik lagi, itu si yg gua tangkep dari komen lu.
Dan katanya termi mau nyoba drx maen tanpa time out tapi ternyata ga bisa wkwkkw
@@Yoimiyanyaa lu nonton dah yg vidio stax, xeta sama dari gen g, stax bilang ga ada yg bisa ngalahin drx di pacific trs prx ga bakal bisa ngalahin drx trs xeta ngomong kaya lu berani bertanggung jawab ama kata" Lu dan skearang drx udah kalah 3X ama prx😂
Kan emng tabiat org korea gitu bre, mereka itu toxic & rasis tapi gampang ke trigger klo dibacotin 😂 nah 1 lg mental mereka gampang goyah kalo lawan bacotnya lebih keras wkwk
Orang korea tuh rasis banget ke Asia Tenggara dan mereka angkuh banget wkwk
Lucu bgt ini semalem, sama 2ge jadi lawan mulu wkwkwm
仮に日本人のプロが冗談でもflipsみたいなこと言ってたら契約解除案件だよなぁ。トキシックに対する価値感の違いなんだろうね。実際のところそういう処分に値するかは置いといて、海外兄貴の意見には"toxicは褒められたことではない"っていうニュアンスが全く感じられないもんなぁ。相手がどう受け取るかって言うのは本当にどうでもいいんだろうね。
日本人の中には相手が悪く思わないか不安で何も言えなくなってしまうような人がいることを知ってほしい。もちろん文化圏の近い韓国人も例外ではない
talk to ur anime isnt a bad thing, that was personal but saying fk indians fk indonesians is just horrible.
Bro, it will not happen if tenten say "yea mb, i thought we dont have short", simple, but yea, sometimes pride make things so difficult
I am a Valorant-loving Japanese, and one of the reasons this happened is due to our differing senses of "discrimination". Many of us Japanese dislike "discrimination" itself. However, we do not distinguish between "discrimination" and "racism". tenten's statement is "racism", but fl1pzjder's statement seems to me to be "cultural discrimination", making fun of anime, which is one of our cultures.
Also, when tenten later apologized, fl1pzjder did not stop his inciting behavior.
I was going to support LCQ as well because RRQ was an interesting team to watch, but I am sorry this happened.
The text may be a little strange because I am going through a translation. Sorry.
Isn't tenten korean ?
@@arbrian683 Yes, indeed. But fl1pzjder seemed to have mistaken tenten for a Japanese at first and made fun of the anime with his statement. This was the day before tenten said the racist term.
In addition to this, tenten has a deep knowledge of Japanese culture and language, as both he and his brother are on the Japanese team.
@@ちょこぱい-n7tBro I bet flipdzjder also watch anime 🤣 he is obviously just joking to stop the conversation. In the first place, why don't tenten answer him the first question about watching A site when sova already clear it. Tenten just triggered suddenly when flipzjder say kencana kencana lol
@@ちょこぱい-n7tAlso watch in the round 16, tenten is the one who started it all when flipzjder just playing quietly XD
@@arbrian683 I don't know what tenten thinks and I agree with a lot of your thoughts. However, if it was just an error in judgment or an argument during the game, it would not have been a big problem. In this case, the problem has become bigger because of the racist remarks. On the other hand, what do you guys think about flipzjder's sniping?
penyefong ngelap eek pake tisu dianggap kasta elit sama dia, itu bool ampe jamuran baunya nempel mulu di boolnya
apapun dramanya yang kena tetap India 💀
Asia ireng = india
@@serahlu1915 tru
wkwkw soalnya india jd sasaran empuk rasis , krna kulitnya lebih gelap dr asia normal , pandangan org putih gtu
@@serahlu1915 saya yang jawir melihat ini 🤨
😅😅
ban tolong ini yang terakhir ya, udah cape ban ngebela lu di twitter
Ngapain dibela wkwk
NT lah ten, see you in a different game WKWKKWKW
Aneh bener yak, pdhal ditanya baik-baik, "nape lu rotating ke A, pdhal enemy udh masuk C". Dia balesnya "nape lu toxic". Lah,... Kagak nyambung cok
Dan lebih kocaknya lagi, udah rasis tapi salah target, bilang Reyna diff tapi musuh kagak ada Reyna. Kagak ngarti diff ngomong diff. Jadi keliatan kan kebodohannya.
Sensitif + insecure
menit brp bg
nice video made my day lol
yang rame orang korea sama orang indo, tapi yang twitter war orang jepang sama orang india, mantap dah
dri yg gw liat sih emg ni org mancing tenten buat ketrigred pas tenten udh blunder baru di goreng ama dia. biar ketutupan kali cupunya? saran gw rrq juga harus kasih sanksi sih ke ni org. masa pro player toxic gini.
From my perspective, both sides have their own wrongs. Both were being toxic to each other, and I can understand why people wanted both players to be punished.
fl1pzjder was attacking Tenten personally, from questioning Tenten's play, calling him to talk to anime, etc. But we can agree that he was attacking Tenten personally. We can see a lot of people blaming and questioning their teammate's plays, and people getting angry when their teammates criticize their plays. We can see that all the time in ranked. fl1pz told Tenten to go talk to anime were because Tenten had anime profile picture, so he was making fun of that. He weren't making fun of anime or Japanese people/culture, he was making fun of Tenten. He didn't think that Tenten is Japanese, he knew that Tenten was Korean, which is why he spoke Korean to Tenten (if anyone knows what he says in Korean means, let me know in the replies). In short, fl1pzjder was attacking and making fun of Tenten personally, and not Japanese/Korean people/culture. The Japanese and Koreans might think otherwise, but from what I see, his intentions were to be toxic to Tenten, and not to the people/culture of those countries.
On the other hand, when Tenten said "f India", most people would think that he was attacking Indians as a whole. Even if he didn't bring India to this whole thing and said "f Indonesia" instead, it doesn't change the fact that he was attacking a whole country, a whole nationality, whether it was intentional or accidental. That's the reason why people say that he was being racist. His choice of words implies that he wasn't attacking fl1pz personally, like what fl1pz did to him, but he was attacking a whole region. It's not about how people interpret what he was saying, it's about the words he chose to use.
I think Tenten deserved the punishment that he got. I won't be surprised if fl1pzjder also gets a punishment, and I won't be surprised if the punishment is milder than what Tenten got. Some other players got fined because they were being toxic in tournaments, so maybe fl1pz (or RRQ as a whole) will get a similar punishment.
EDIT: So Tenten also got suspended for the next 4 VCT matches, while fl1pz got a warning, and if he does something like this again, he will get harsher punishment. For fl1pz, it's better than nothing, I guess.
Also, Meteor aggressively teabagging fl1pz in LCQ was meant to happen
gwenchana means, it's fine or, it's ok.
the point is he is a racist and racists should not be defended. if it's just toxic, no problem, that's normal.
@@ahmadsofyandi37 I won't say that we can and/or should normalize toxicity, but I can say that some are worse than the other.
Emg tenten benci sama bani
Padahal bani cuman nanya kenapa ke A padahal sovanya udah ngeclearin A
Wkwk bukannya jawab alasannya malah langsung bawa" kda XD kalo gw sih dah males sekalian nge throw game nya
Tenten siapa yang kak, maaf ngga tau
@@Miawwwwww-v4gitu di judul ditulis player northeption
@@Miawwwwww-v4g adeknya GenG.Meteor juga kalo ga salah
@@Miawwwwww-v4g mba mba yang ada di naruto kak..
padahal mah kalo dia stop pas ngira bani orang India mah ga terlalu masalah, eh keluar kata kata "poop" nya😅
Malah orang jepang masih lagi fikir si bani itu yang rasis wkwkwkwkwkwk
Ngk heran J@Yv hidup disana fanatik dengan menutup wajah(akun palsu) sangat mengerikan.
Ga bro tinggal dia jawab aja kenapa pergi a gitu kan masalah selesai wkwkw
@@scigg gua udah baca mungkin karna beda budaya, emg anime dari jepang tp ngatain orang weboo atau ngejekin anime kan dilakukan ama orang Indonesia bahkan orang luar kaya us juga ngatain weebs kadang kesatu sama lain
report ke riot aja, biar di perma ban dan gak bisa join tournament dimana2 lg
Dah di terminate tuh kontraknya Ama NTH
dan sekarang TenTen langsung dipecat cuyyyy
bani bilang “go talk to ur anime” is lowkey racist too kalo kita mau liat situasi ini secara apple to apple, bedanya yang atu lebih gamblang aja rasisnya
bener ,tapi orang ttp bela bani . ajig malu bet bacanya. apalagi di komen orang luar yg mati matian bela bani
lucu lucu orng orng kita
rasis dari mananya? si tenten kan pake pp anime.
@@kobokanlucu8110 belajar racism terhadap culuture. abis itu tonton ulang deh dan pake mikir otaknya bang
nah itu wkwk dua-duanya sama aja klo mo disamain, tapi pada akhirnya kalo mau diaju banding, tudingan ke tenten ujung2nya bakal lebih berat bro, yg satu ngatain pake majas jdi tersirat, yg satu blak blak-an ngatain dua negara, dua duanya rasis tpi bani bisa ngelak klo dituding, beda ama tenten itu udah kartu merah.
kalo suruh nebak nebak paling bani diban sementara waktu(mirip kek lemon mungkin), dan riot gbs lgsg ngambil keputusan bkin rrq out,
@@zjagaming321 "belajar racism terhadap culture 🤓" kalo bani ngelak dia bilang go talk to ur anime gara gara si tenten pake pp anime ya ke debunk semua tuduhan rasisme nya tolol.
sedangkan si tenten jelas jelas bawa negara lain secara gamblang.
tapi bani streaming jaman nxl sama jaman rrq sekarang udah way better yang sekarang sih perkara nanggepin public di ranked, tapi tetep mungkin ada beberapa momen yang bikin dia gampang kepancing, cuma sekarang intensitasnya ga sesering jaman nxl, semoga ya seengganya bani diingetin aja atau ditegur kalo ranked itu jangan dibawa seserius itu sampe implikasinya kaya gini, ya tapi bisa ngerti keliatan bani orangnya punya prinsip keras pertahanin harga diri mau sempurna tiap dia main, tapi ya keep itu ketika turney atau scrim aja, ketika ranked ya yaudah keep semuanya buat dia aja kurang2in yang bisa bikin trigger sampe segininya soalnya karir dia juga udah establish, jujur secara igl kalo di indo doang kayanya bani yang paling menonjol soalnya gameplay adaptifnya bagus bgt dari jaman nxl, boom, sampe kemarin di regular season pacific league, sayang kalo karirnya harus kenapa-napa gara2 ini
Problem-nya setoxic apapun asal jgn ke rasisme, itu bener2 hukumnya haram di dunia internasional. Ngomong kasar dll, itu bisa ditegur, dll. Tp kalau organisasi sudah ada rasisme, bisa hancur 1 Kapal walaupun hanya 1 oknum. Mmg begitu bro.. So jgn rasis guys, toxic apapun masih bisa di maafkan, asal jangan rasis bahaya.
@@mamikikeyu iya emang kalo toxic pasti orang juga gabisa tahan di momen tertentu, ada kalanya kelepasan, tapi ya takut aja soalnya si bani udah beberapa kali masuk pinggir jurang ini dari jaman nxl wkwkw perkara ngatain gojo satoru aja kepanasan netijen sana takutnya aja pait2nya kedepannya bani yang kelepasan apes bisa kena juga kan sayang karirnya
@@mamikikeyu si BANI ini emang tukang ngeflaming coy, yg sering nonton stream nya pasti tau... Harus nya kena juga nih telor
@@mr_kesalwkwk iya, tukang ngeblame, gak jarang bawa2 nama negara yg diblame juga
di live yg mana ama menit brp ini bang udil
Normal day in valorant:
both of them 😅
Waduh ternyata di lobby pro player masih ada bocil kda coy😱. Apakah selama ini gw yg selalu ketemu bocil kda di gold ternyata pro player😱😱
How about "talk to your anime" thing ? Is it not racist too ?
maybe first u need to learn what is racist?
dari sini kita tau kalo bukan cuma rank silver aja yg bahas kda :v
ga lama lagi karirnya sepertinya
udh ada announcement dari nth tuh
gaaneh orang korea kalo rasis, barusan aja liat diyoutube korea rasis dan skrg bani di rasis-in wkwkwk.
Dari dulu bani memang kek gitu sih, apalagi dia juga banyak melakukan rasis, jejak digitalnya masih ada bahkan. Gue harap suatu saat Bani juga bisa kena agar dia juga tau kalau dirinya bahkan lebih parah rasisnya. Tapi memang orang korea itu terkenal rasis ke negara2 asia lainnya.
Reyna just asked a simple question why jett got triggered ?
nah he said HAHAHAHA which triggered him
Kenapa Kalo main ke warnet gw sering ketemu orang dewasa yg umurnya udah mau tua main game omongannya ga bisa dijaga pasti ngomong" kasar sering risih juga sama orang" model begitu , hey inikan cuma permainan
India pride... flipz from india... gila itu orang bener bener berpikir bani dari india wkwkwk
terlepas dari drama ama bocil tenten, si bani ini tai bener ye spionan ke 2GE awkwkakwakwa
korea racist? udh sering broo wkwkkw
Cuma ga nongol di permukaan aja
Salah satu video udil yg viewsnya bakal banyak😂
Mungkin suara bani mirip skrosi
Ada ngomong dari indo kali dan disana indo itu artinya India
@@Fahklevi di korea indo itu bahasa buat india
@@HadirUntukAnda That's exactly what i said.....
bang kaciooo selalu jadi korban ke toxic kann T-T .... sad bang kaco
Udah di hapus ya tweetny 😅
sebenernya kalo tenten jawab pertanyaan bani tentang site A mah clear2 aja udh, cmn karena mungkin ego nya tinggi dan nga mau berterima ,jadinya bahasanya kemana2
Fewer Japanese will support rrq on this issue.
Tenten has nothing to do with Japanese people just because they are in the Japanese region. Tenten is Korean. But the fact is that FLIPS made fun of Japanese culture.
Japanese people are just victims. Would you support a team with such a player?
you are made of glass if saying talk to your anime offends you, its nothing compared to abusing two races
Parah si eggman ini, toge kaga ngapa-ngapain diganggu, spion lagi
Japanese valorant fans have decided that tenten's contract termination was deserved, but the Japanese are very averse to ghosting and toxic, and are angry that fl1pzjder has not received the same punishment in this case!
What do rrq fans think?
Sorry for the difficult to read sentence due to the use of translations
what is flipz fault? sorry for my bad sentence too
i didn't knew anything about this drama, so what happened? can you elaborate further?
I get your whole point. However, can u explain the reason for fl1pz need to be punished from japanese fans pov? i've been watch the whole clip and i can say that the starting point of this controversy is actually from fl1pz questioning Jett (TenTen) positioning and then they start to arguing to each other which is i believe still fine until Jett bought his remark about Indian and Indonesian.
@@heor1759I watched it.. Flipz just asked how tenten move the other ways nicely.. But how did tenten get so angry about it? 😂
bani only say 'why you go A? haha" then tenten got mad lol
can someone explain who is hating on india and why .. which player which org ..?
Tenten northeption player
TenTen (Korean pro player) from northeption (Japanese team)
@@Mevhisto.352 not surprised its Korean
kesian kaco yg cuma pen main wkwkwk gua kalo satu party ama yg suka gelud gini males bet dah
padahal bani jg sering rasis wakakka blom kena aja
dil, kutunggu malam ini di ranjang yaa
langsung di terminate kontrak nya, gila wkwk
13:31 "you wipe the poop with your hand" waduhhhhh ini orang beneran rada2 sih, udah rasis trus ngatain gitu wtf wkwkwk
padahal mah pake tangan lebih bersih ,daripada pake tisu , takut ada yang ketingalan kokokowokw,
Discrimination is already troublesome, so why don't you decide by fistfighting?
Oiii don't cry Japanese go learn English first so you won't fucked up ur toxicity in ranked game LOL
sisi lain kasian sama si tenten .. Walau pun emng si bani ini manasin dia mulu ... gue gak ngedukung kedua blh pihak .. tapi sangat disayang kan si tenten ini comment rasis... ten ten skrng jobless ,, tapi dia bisa memulai karir baru di esport dengan nama baru .. dan tim baru ... gue dukung penuh valorant community yang sehat dan jangan toxic apalagi SARA!
Sebenarnya masalah siap klw tenten tinggal jawab atau pas di ronde 15 tenten ga lanjut bacot cuma karna si fl1pz ke whiff
Gw gk liat salahnya si bani disini kecuali yg "talk to your anime". Katanya si gamebrott, si bani duluan yg manas-manasin, padahal dia cuma nanya knapa tenten ke a doang, trus tenten malah jawab dengan tidak ramah. Ya si bani kesel lah. Trus bani dah diem si tenten malah bacot.
Walaupun disini Bani nimpalin dia harus sering sering jaga mulut sih, Riot tuh sensitif banget sama isu isu kaya begini. Rame dikit di Twitter bisa jadi isu. Hati hati aja.
G2 aja yang tadinya mau masuk Franchising jadi nggak jadi cuma gara gara CEO nya party ama Andrew Tate. Ati Ati ban, lain kali takutnya lo yang jadi instigator.
bro insulting two races isnt a small thing, riot didnt terminated his contract. NTH did.
Susah jelasin ke warga jepang culture mereka buat nanggepin racist sama toxic udah salah dimata internasional masih aja batu, sedangkan mereka paham bhs inggris aja kaga, mana ditwitter isinya bocah buzzer pendukung tenten di twtnya rrqteam udah kyk mau pilpres aja
@@lazzzy5514 I didn't put the blame in Bani's lap Bruv. All I'm saying is that Bani should be careful in the future to not get easily provoked or do things on stream. Him and his team is in Franchising now. And people are going to poke the bear and make you do something that you'll regret.
Wah ini si bani cepat ato lambat pst bakal kena batunya jga, emg udh dari dulu egonya gak ketulung
bani terlalu provoke kalo kata gua mah.. racist emang ga boleh tapi klo orang indo jga harus jaga attitude lah jgn mentang2 di pro scene jadi seenaknya trus palying victim.
Hah lu ga nonton dari awal ya? Itu Bani hanya hanya “why you go A?“ terus dibales shutup wkwk. Bani ngedumel juga gak diteam speak
Tenten Bani sama2 di pro scene bedanya tenten ga di team franchise tf
@@yurishige awas bang, penyepong korea lebih susah dibilangin
kalo mau koment minimal ngerti dlu lah konteks dan permasalahannya
bukan provoke emg bani agak kebawa emosi , tapi kan ttp ga dibenarkan rasis mau gmn pun
Ah gua ketinggalan seru"an kmren, sial wkwkwk
Edit (update):
Bro si TenTen ini contractnya di terminated gegara ini wkwkwk
Why you go a?
i dont get why Japanese so mad like isnt it a conversation of " go watch your anime" is normal? its not discrimination of a culture. it means just stop playing and do something else you're too bad at the game.
just "WHY U GO A???" men... sadarlah🤣 mendukung flipz bkn krna penyefong, pikir yg logis, tenten knpa cpt amat kebakar??? 😂😂😂
*update
udah di keluarin dari roster NTH kawoawkaow
Kalo ga dibawa ke twitter sama 1010 ga akan segede ini deh 😌
telur dungur tak pernah salah
"talk to ur anime" dianggep cursed japan WKWKWK. cursed wibu iya
Yah udah dihapus tweet ya coy,, padahal mau salim 😂
tweet yg mana
@@muhammadsubzero6834 ya tweetnya nth tenten
Udah terminate contract cuy per hari ini si tenten
I'm sorry not to speak ENGLISH fluently
If you only see this match, it seems that one of them panicked and became racist. But seeing the two of them in their previous match, it's no wonder they're clearly fueled and furious.
Racism is unforgivable, but the words and actions that caused it are also shameful. Even if you watch this match, it's stupid to make a fuss about "racism" if you're categorized while you're talking about anime
In addition, tenten acknowledged non-compliance on Twitter, but I couldn't believe he was a professional gamer because he was fanning it with net slang.
I don't think I can say which one is worse. The Japanese people in the 1st division are angry, and I was looking forward to the LCQ, but I no longer want to support the RRQ.
This incident should have made you understand how rotten the VALORANT community is, how hard it is for general players to approach, and that only crazy people can become professional gamers😂
Fl1pz just asking "why go A?" Because sova already clear A, and then TenTen kept malding even tho fl1pz wasnt say anything afterwards.. but i think nth terminated TenTen is going to far man
@@lohelohe9665 keputusan yg tepat sih bro klo gw. soalnya udh termasuk merusak brand image jadi klo dri pandangan pembisnis ya mau gk mau. pasti ada rapat antar investor sama ownner nya dan keputusan nya udh keluar.
Imagine only says "talking to ur anime/gojo" Is cruel more than "fck*ng In**an" 💀💀
@@lohelohe9665
めんどくさいから日本語で。
この試合ではなく前の試合(この動画ではない)が酷かったって話。
@@user-d8i2r i think the problem is TenTen going to far bringing the whole country of India even tho fl1pz not from india (India and Indonesia is two different country). Thats why many indian kept tagging NTH and the CEO about this... Indonesian netizen doesnt give a shit (because the problem is with Indian), but then Japanese and Korean netizen missdirected. kept comment negative and racism towards Indonesia even tho the problem is between TenTen and India not Indonesia, Korean netizen also said monkey to Southeast asia. Its triggered the Indonesian netizen too. Japanese and korean attack the Indonesian because fl1pz from Indonesia, the problem is with the player not the country, same to TenTen the problem is between him and Indian... but the Korean and Japanese kept attacking Indonesia.
Thats from my perspective, sorry for my bad english. Hope you understand. Cheers, no offense.
Bani career destroyer😂😂 Ngakak diluar konteks, problem nya cuman kenapa jett di A, ujung ujungnya bawa bawa India gak ngerti lagi lol
Seru banget semalem
blm lg yg ketemu mantan di bind trs sok cool wkwkwk
@@c0zzie22wkwkwkw
Korea gak kaget kalau Rasis wkwkwkwkwkwwk
langsung diterminate langsung wakwokaokawokaw
bani selalu mencari bestie hyung
thumbnail lu juga ati" dil, tulisan merahnya
:)
For me, it's just overreact from tenten because fl1pz just try to clarify why tenten go a and he denial such as "Sova stay sova stay". But a lot of young generation became very denial 😩
unacceptable, he got fired.
Laporin ke valorant nya kena gk ni tongtong ?
Mampus kebanned wkakak
Bani telur sialan, spionan udah kek bocil PB di warnet 🤣🤣🤣
Dlu kan bocil pb wkwkwk
Menit ke berapa
Indians be like : what was our fault 🥺
salah dia coy, jelas jelas bani dari bangladesh hadehh, udh tau india top 2 global jumlah manusia pas salah langsung panik gitu dah
@dafa_firmansyah wah gacor juga perkembang-biakan disana
Langsung dibikin liburan anj 😂
bani kalo diliat track record bisa kena juga ini wmwwkkwkwkw
Rame coy
Candaan si bani ke tenten emang gk lucu, wajar emosi sampe racist...
Emosi boleh, rasis jangan
berarti logika ente bego,emosi juga gk boleh rasis
tipikal banget orang indo,emosi rasis dibilang wajar
orang korea terkenal rasis. di mata mereka, asia tenggara ke tempat dia mentok2 jadi TKI
Wkwkwk banyak komen inggris 😂 lu toxic2 aja gpp, tapi jgn rasis wkwkwk apalagi lu itu public figure/pro player, harusnya serang aja secara personal, ngapain bawa2 India wkwk salah sendiri malah playing victim
Pro player ama newbie ga ada bedanya ya soal toxic, main nya yang awalnya bagus mendadak jelek gara-gara kepancing emosi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂.
Masih lanjut ini sama ten ten😂
Ini yang komen bhs inggris bot apa gmn sih
si BANI ini emang tukang ngeflaming coy, yg sering nonton stream nya pasti tau... Harus nya kena juga nih telor
6:35 stream sniping ?