Is Pumping Your Mountain Bike Faster Than Pedaling? | Pumping Vs Pedaling
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Is pedalling down a downhill run faster than using the terrain to gain speed by pumping? Neil headed to Bikepark Wales, riding a mixture of tech and flow trails, to find out 🤘
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There have been a few instances in recent history of legendary DH race runs done without a chain. Aaron Gwin's win in Leogang, Rachel Atherton's 3rd place in Fort William or Neko Mulally's Career Best of 4th at Hafjell... but just how much difference does it make to the bike when riding chainless and can Neil recreate a similar result with a chain and just by pumping in this test?
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Have you tried to pump through a trail without pedalling? Let us know 👇
Imagine pumping AND pedalling when it's flatter, I think I'm on something
Dude I came down here to say the same thing what would the times be?!
That’s three of us. Shame Don didn’t do I third run - how I’d ride it to be fastest of all
I'd love to see the time he did that in and his heart rate after
Same here, would love to see the numbers for a run combining the two techniques for comparison.
I'll join the line!
Put some pedaling on those flat bits where Neil lost speed and boom! 🤩
I think it's the ability to go from pumping to pedaling or pedaling to pumping that is the real challenge in improving your speed and flow. Would like to see a third ride in which you do both and see the result...
Is Neil the only one not on vacation? There's been more Neil videos lately. Not complaining.
Interesting! I’ve never been known for being the fastest on the trails, and I always feel like I’m peddling my backside off just to keep up. Maybe there’s a lesson in there to chill out a bit and definitely find more flow in my riding🤔, great video👍🏻
Are you shifting well? The "harder" gears will be your friend when you get your flow going.
Yea shifting is all good, just think I need to find my flow 😆
Same
yep, more pumping experiments and technique videos!
Pretty likely you're always going to need to pedal or pump at different sections, depending on the terrain. Peeps need to find a BMX track or a pump track and practice pumping if they've not done it very often. On a BMX track you need both.
On most pump tracks you can roll down the starthill and pump the whole thing
@@anfridge7844 Yep.
Just getting down the trail in one piece is my aim. Neil wish you could do tuition again because I’m new to this watch all your videos but nothing like practical and you observing and guiding what the hell im doing wrong or right!!! Lots of coaching but nothing is better then from the best in my opinion
Neil must planning to do some races this year 😉 😁
Great video on unjulating ground pumping is much more exerting but for the flat it does seem a lot slower, would be great to see Neil on the next death grip challenge
Well i wasn't expecting that result
Cool video and great to see more of Neil's fast riding , you make it look so easy Neil :)
Whole new challenge on the trails
I bloody love BPW.
Hello I think its due to the fact you hardly broke through the corners when pumping. Could not hear the brakes squeal on the pump video.
Would love to see if a high pivot/idler bike is actually faster? Love the channel!
Great video! I'm going to try that on my local trail :-)
Dropped a chain on my race run last time, and I didn't have time to fix it. So i pumped the hell out of every rock and somehow managed to get 17th out of 120
Interestingly shortboard surfing has a 'pump principle' too. It helps you pick up momentum.
Pumping is a huge help there are places I ride where you can't pedal (pedal sticks) so to gain speed pumping becomes your best friend
Why have pedals on a down hill bike when you might be better if pumping and using dirtbike foot pegs in stead lol
Brilliant, I asked this as a question on ask gmbn.
If you have the right technique and in the right situation pumping is awesome.
I just dislike pedalling on DH's (no problem up).... It's not like I won't if its needed to clear a gap but I'd much rather just pump it feels so much more satisfying...
Higher chain growth rate faster pumping, lower chain growth rate smoother pedaling
Pumping uphill faster than pedaling?! I'll give it a go!
He clearly wasn’t there on a weekend as it wasn’t littered with groups stopped in the middle of the trail to chat / look at features
Yep! It's the same all around the world I reckon... gotta hit the trails very early in the morning or else avoid them during week-ends! Luckily I'm an early retiree, so mostly week days for me ;-))
How does the bike do in snow?
wow 3:26
5th?
It’s not one or the other, it’s knowing when to use either.
Darn you're so fast
When does the GMBN, The Motion Picture come out?
Pedal where one should pedal, pump where one should pump. That’s my advice.
I thought pumping was going to be slower cause that looked like it. Pedalling looked way faster.
‘Chainless is slightly unrealistic’
So is pumping without pedalling.
Can i fit a 3.0 tyre on a 3cm rim?
Yeah
@@breadunslicer8580 best man thanks
Make sure you have clearence on your frame and fork
@@breadunslicer8580 i knew but thanks
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Definitely expected pumping to lose after watching both since lots of sections seemed slower
6:00 with subtitles "I'm still gay" love it
Obviously the “fastest” results will incorporate both. Pump when you can’t pedal, pedal when you can’t pump. I’d also like to point out that while you can reasonably eliminate pedaling from the pumping run, you did not eliminate pumping from the pedaling run. You could see in the video you still pumped out if corners and when you did jumps.
Really looked forward to this video, thanks for answering my hunch !
Binge watching GMBM since the flu has gotten me bedridden...
I always seem to get my fastest times when I’m not trying so hard !
So personally I started biking with BMX Race AND the big thing I learned is that I rather cleared a jump for the first time by just pushing/pumping than pedaling because I concentrated more on the track and the jump itself than pedaling. Same thing Riding the EN Bike.
Pumping for sure generates speed but it also takes a lot of energy to do so, at least in my opinion. Go to a pump track and pump one or 2 laps and you will be out of breath! :)
Good and interesting video anyhow!
As a an ex-skater i kinda expected this result, with good technique and timing pumping can get you all the speed you need in most cases. I find the trickiest skill to learn is when to pump and when to pedal but i guess that will come with time and experience.
Way less breaking squeeks during pumping that would def make u faster
Are you comparing pumping WITHOUT pedalling to pedalling WITH pumping? If so, I'd theorise focusing on pumping just helps you ride smarter / better
Pumping tutorial coming up?
They already made one
This is why my plan of returning to MTB consists of spending as much of the winter as possible on pumptrack. No mud, no crowd this time of year and I hope to transfer new and relearned skills to trails.
reasonably_ doing this will definitely pay off. Learning to lean deep in berms is great too.
I often find myself pumping and then have to start braking behind riders thats are just pedaling on trails.. i catch them to fast and then just coasting along pumping while they pedal flat out.
Yeah but you didn’t get many pedal strokes in on the first run because you were too busy tackling obstacles and didn’t want to risk pedal striking. If you’d have pedalled between all those tree stumps and around berms you’d only have ended up having to brake more. Pedalling obviously only helps on open straight sections. I think the only thing this video proves is that the garmin flow score is complete rubbish (other GPS devices are available).
Shame you couldent have any splits in the track to see how much faster you were before the flatter section
i think it depends on the type of trail, a downhill with a lot of pump track type then pumping is faster, and downhill with more flats and drops pedaling will be faster,
I feel it depends on the trail on whether you should pump or pedal. Some trails I find myself peddling alot and some I dont need to pedal at all or much shall I say.
Love your riding Neil.👌
Now try it riding a hardtail
I like this style of POV from a professional DH rider
Don't you know pump it up, you've got to pump it up...
I guess pumping makes you faster ‘cause you can actually take “advantage” of the terrain as it was a start roller, example, push down on a drop, a root, etc, and you will accelerate more than if you just let yourself fall onto the receiver, or just roll the root, but i guess top racers do pedal as maniacs on some parts of the track. That’s why Neil says for pumping you need to read more the terrain, to know what little parts can make you accelerate more if you push your body down on them!! Keep on the nice work guys! Greetings from Mexico!!
Great comparison with an awesome commentary. 👌✊
Definitely expected pumping alone to be slower than the pedalling 😬 great vid 👍
Read the terrain? Or memorize the terrain?
Yep... now, try it uphill 😉
Would you guys say longer jumps with smaller lips are harder than
Smaller jumps with bigger lips?
Any time you lost through not pedalling you probably made up once you got to Willy Waver, that trail is so smooth and pumpable, especially since it was resurfaced. It's like a bob-sleigh run.
Just watching the video makes my adrenaline pumpin! Woooooh!! LETS GO!!!
#askgmbn will Blake be riding darkfest 2020!! Maybe Neil could get on his nukeproof dissent and send some massive gaps with Blake 😁
Really enjoyed those crazy fast runs. I am 68yrs and enjoy a mountain run, but never such as yours. Thank you Neil for sharing the statistics of peddling vs pumping. - not surprised.
That's a Like right there just for being at BPW. Sweets as... Really depends on the trail tho. Smooth and flowing, pumping will ramp up the speed real fast. The more techy stuff needs a little more pedal power, riding style dependant though.
if timing is ended by pushing a button then just slight difference in that when you push it might make all the difference in the results.
only proper way to do this is the way the pros do it,a start gate, so bike is at the exact same spot always, and a thing on the fork to record the time, this eliminates all thee possible inaccuracies that can happen.
The nonstop music, particularly during dialogue, is becoming like a bad carbon creak.
Hi guys, just thought I’d mention this for feedback, I’m not as engaged in this style of video, with the dialogue and riding in one. I find the sideline camera and stopping to address the situation much more informative about my own riding. Hope that helps
Nice comparison. Surprising results! I like to do a run with just pumping to have that skill.
Sometime GMBN produces good content and sometimes they produce shit. I like the premise but this is one of those situations where different terrain calls for different technique. There is no 'one way fits all' when it comes to pedal vs pump.
Prolly slower pumping but for you were scrubbing the jumps more on the pump run... but. I agree. When there are pumpable shapes on trail. Always use them..
What is faster? Just ask Aaron Gwin :)
Haha that's what I said!
You guys could probably benefit from that good good hero 8 hypersmooth ?
Maybe if you don’t thrash your bars from side to side when you’re pedaling you be faster.
I am surprised cause it looked way to slow on flatter sections. I will try to pump more from now on. Also I think it matters more on man made trails. On natural trails it's harder to pump.
Gwin is a good example on pumping vs pedaling. The win with broken chain
Using the terrain to pump more seems alot faster than peddling at it but what slows you down faster pumping at the wrong time or peddling at the wrong time ?
Pumping.is hard work...but famous race wins with no chain says it all
The only thing I pump is the ladies mate & sometimes I crank on them too ; from the back mate ! 🥴
good stuff..thanks
Loved the look of that trail. Looked hard work but rewarding fun.
Neil you should do the course preview of one of the world cups!!! You were quite there on this one!
Hi
Great video but surely GMBN can afford a gimble? You're making us green with motion sicknesses 😂
Nice riding!
interesting garmin edge 530 for MTB
@ 3:58 listening to Gregory Isaacs
what GPS are you using to record your times ?
Pumping all the way!
You need to the proper features to pump up to speed
I often find it hard to antisipate if a feutere is a drop or a roll tips?
First
Did Neil forget his GoPro hero 8 at home?
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I believe it also depends a lot on soil conditions