Threw tons of this stuff away 20 years ago. I’m 43 but feel old due to watching this video and thinking all the time: “yeah of course”. Its not a lost art for me but used to be daily stuff in the late 80s, early 90s 😂. Thanks for this trip down memory lane. Now looking for someone making a 5.25” to USB solution to read all my GW-Basic floppies (5.25”)
Ugh that sick feeling knowing all the computer bits we've thrown away as "worthless" only for them now to be useful (at least, interesting) again and worth more than they sold for new! :(
Story of my life. Even had an IBM 5150 with the keyboard when I was a kid, and threw out a VIC-20 probably about 5 or so years ago before I realized what they're worth... At least I kept my Tandys.
Yeah, when I was a kid in the early 80's I had all the star wars toys, the falcon x-wing and all. When I was getting older, my mother decided I was too old for them. All to the bin.
Back in those days "Cable Management" had a whole different meaning It was more like "How can i manage to Connect all these Cables together?" "How strong is your Origami?" "Oh I see your Origami is not strong!"
In the really old days (early 90s) that was the sort of machine I used for Netware 3.12 servers - lots of bays for 1G SCSI drives and EISA motherboard with Adaptec SCSI with never less than 16Gb of RAM. The 3 1/2" bay was for a DAT SCSI tape drive. Two servers with 8GB of drive space total could feed a company of 100. It was entirely possible to run Windows for Workgroups over the 10-baseT Netware network, although everyone had a local copy. This type case + 4 heavy Micropolis drives (big fat brick drives) and man that sucker was heavy. My desktop was an AST workstation -type PC with an equivalent build to the servers but less disk space (only 2 bricks). Those were the last days of "heavy" computing :)
As a retro computer geek, I still really don't miss working with those IDE cables, power cables and those kind of AT cases in general. It literally takes blood sweat and tears to get things working!
If I had a dollar for every time I cut myself on a computer and didn't feel it, but noticed later that I was bleeding... Well, I'd probably only have two dollars, but still... :P
I would say it's more indicative of the era. The main thing is making sure the A: drive matches the disks you need to boot from (mostly the DOS install disk and a boot disk with CD drivers, etc.) I built my 386 with 5.25" as A:, as back then DOS 3.3 to DOS 5 would ordinarily come on 5.25" disks. Starting with my 486, the 3.5" is A:, since that's using DOS 6 which came mostly on 3.5" disks. The Pentium doesn't even have a 5.25" drive, since nobody was still using them by that time.
@@nickwallette6201 You're right. Particuarly, people would usually just keep whatever drive as A: that the machine came with, since that's what the system boot disks came on. It would come with a 5.25" drive, and they'd later add a 3.5" drive. I kept my 5.25" drive in my main rig until well into the Pentium era. These days, my i7 has an internal floppy and ZIP drive, just for working with my retro computers.
Really nice to see these retro PCs, I'm holding a Pentium 3 for many years, thinking one day I'll find a matching sound card and video card. I have the Processor, RAM, Floppy, 20 GB Quantum Fireball, Original CD ROM came with the particular PC and of the casing.
When I found that my PCB CAD program did not want to run on my newer 64-bit computers, I ended up rebuilding my old 32-bit unit with XP system. While at it, I stuffed both 5,25 inch and 3.5 inch floppy drives in. I never got rid of mine! Works pretty well and actually faster than a virtual XP on the new computer. My only issue is that I have not found my drivers for the USB to IEEE-488 adapter, which also did not even load into the 64-bitter. But I have hundreds of 5.25 inch as well as 3.5 inch floppies, mostly not converted into any newer media. Now I can again access them.
just found your channel and now I'm binge watching pretty much all the videos xD a little trick I used back in the day with the power and floppy ribbon cables was that I'd always connect the power first and depending on the orientation of the red power cable I'd use that to figure out the orientation of the data cable - ie. if the red power cable was "pointing" in, then the red on the data should be right next to it, if it was "pointing" out of the drive than the data should be pointing out as well..
Just wanted to say thanks for the video Adrian, I just got lucky with a machine someone was giving away. It randomly came with a 5.25 drive in it and it happens to be the exact same TEAC FD-55GFR drive in the video. I have it working alongside everything else, super nostalgic hearing the seeking sounds from both the A and B drive at boot like when I was a kid.
I used to have this problem back in the day when I started building my own, until I found the rounded or sleeved cable. They saved so much space and hassle.
Hilarious seeing the cable situation these days inside those old cases. I was there. I’m old enough and I used those computers and built some. Today looking in the glass side of my current pc you’d be hard pressed to see many cables. Nutty how far we’ve come.
Thanks so much!!!!! I was wondering why my floppy drive was not working. The light was always on. I flipped the cable around in the disk drive. Motherboard was not needed, and retried accessing the disk and it worked! Earned a sub :) Have a nice day
It is insane what the sell them for now! I use to have a box full of them I also think they ended up in a dump somewhere! who knew they actually be worth more today then the day I had bought them.
I've been trying to get a 5.25" drive lately (mostly for use with the Greaseweazle, to write disks for old systems like the Apple II and Commodore 64) and the prices on these things are just stupid right now... I even just picked up a complete 486 system which, unfortunately, didn't have a 5" drive... It had a tape drive, which I don't really want to keep, which means I have a 5.25" drive bay that I'm going to need to fill or cover with... something... I'm thinking maybe throw an LCD screen in there, that's the kind of thing I'd have done back in the 90s... Gotta love those old monster tower cases, too. Definitely had one of those for a while...
$10 for the floppy cable? I still have a bunch of them, and I was actually considering going through my parts boxes and cleaning them out. Now I need to sort through and sell them (nah, not looking for $10 a cable). And I have one of those adapter pieces, glued in a piece of cardboard to the opening since I needed to use it for holding a HDD (my case was missing the HDD cage). My last 5 1/4" floppy drives got lost in a house fire, never bothered hunting down any more. And my current homebrew machine doesn't have a floppy connector on the motherboard. The problem I remember with the proper alignment of the floppy cable was if you had to twist it around, you had a good chance the cable wouldn't reach the motherboard anymore. Also: if I remember those Micron cases, the drive cages might have been able to move/swing out of the way.
A quick tip for remembering where the red edge of the cable needs to go when plugging it into a 3.5" floppy drive... it always (I never ran into a contrary situation) goes on the side closest to the power connector of the floppy. Also, if you managed to mess it up and get it backwards, it is very easy to recognize that you did put it on backwards, because the drive busy light on the drive will instantly turn on solid when the machine boots. (ADDENDUM: I should really wait until the end of a video before making these comments... you mentioned my second part there all of two minutes later...)
I too have noticed that. Whether on hard drives or floppies, pin 1 seems to always be facing the power. Some floppy drives will mess you up and flip which end the power connector is on. I've also noticed that pin 3 is sometimes absent on the floppy header, which of course is on the side of pin 1. The one thing to watch out for though is working on some old XT-class systems that had the floppy power on the ribbon, like my Tandy 1000HX. Hook that up backwards, and watch the magic smoke escape. And then there's farting around for hours trying to get a replacement floppy working only to find out that the machine uses Shugart floppies rather than the (now) PC-standard, and you need to swap pins 10 and 12 on Drive A: to get the replacement working.
WOW, I still have at least one in a drawer, plus boxes of floppies. I think I transferred all my software to CD then to DVD. Still have the floppies and drive in case i want to revive my stored 486 i had as a router/server. Most cases I've ever owned had 2 sets of holes for back or front fan, so you could use different size fans.
I've kept my old peripherals all this time, so I still have several 5.25" FDD's ... not to mention big stacks of 5.25" & 3.5" floppies, which are not just for PC's, but also for my Commodore 64 system(s). I also have one of those combo internal 3.5" & 5.25" FDD's, for fitting in one bay slot. And also an internal Iomega Zip100 drive ... which is like miles faster than the external parallel port Zip drive, which I also still have. I have to wonder about that MSI badge. I am unfamiliar with any of MSI's (MicroStar) older logos, apart from the compass & dragon symbols. If that is not "the" MSI we all know, then it's possible that is a different MSI company. PC companies boomed & waned back in the 1980's & 1990's. I've kept a few Computer Shopper catalogs from the late 1980's, I'm talking about those big thick wide books & inside there were any advertisements from PC companies, many of them now defunct. I love fulltowers, so that MSI one is nice. I only have one full tower, bought for something like $50, w/ PSU, about 20 years ago. Apart from the standard locations of the many bays, it additionally had a bay at the roof of the tower, like where your left hand is holding the top frame strut at the 3 minute mark of the video, which makes sense since there's lots of empty space there above the PSU.
Hey Adrian, on very old floppy drives you can configure the drive as A or B drive. For example the drives in the Commodore PC 10 III. Is has two 5.25 drives (360kB) and a non swapped cable. I don't know when they stopped to bulid in the jumper on the drive to configure adresse. But from then on all drives that I got where hard configured as B Drive.
IBM 5150 wasn't an AT. It'd still work, but the issue is that you'd be limited to reading 720K, unless you can find an 2HD floppy controller that works on an 8-bit slot.
I saw one of these Micron machines at my old job at Staples...sadly it had been heavily damaged! I should have grabbed the processor with that crazy heat sink though...
Honestly i think that you should keep the old fan in the case, its original and i think such old computers should be kept with original parts. Computers back then havent been made to be silent and to me its just nice to listen to an old "noisy" computer.
@@Universal.G HDDs became nice with bigger file sizes, but were not really necessary for the C64 or the early IBM PCs. With the usually moderate file sizes and a fastloader cartridge, a disk drive almost feels like a HDD on the C64. :-)
Hi Adrian - - I wanted to ask how you were able to define the Teac 5 1/4" floppy drive in the CMOS??? I have the exact same Micron tower PC that I bought brand new in 1998, and the same Teac FD-55GFR 5 1/4" floppy drive. When I went into the CMOS to define the new drive, I discovered that there was no option to add a "B" drive??? Can you give me a hint as to how you were able to define the new drive? I would appreciate it --- THX, Chuck
I've got a very similiar case, and i love it as well! The only problem with my one was overheating (i've put a Sempron board inside, not quite period-accurate but i didn't know this at the time, and that was just what i had) - have you encountered it? BTW, great video :)
Did it test out good with a floppy disc? I obtained the same Teac drive (brand new, incidentally) and I got it installed in a Dell Optiplex. It does the brief light up during POST and shows in Windows 10 but it will not read or recognize any disks. Tried in a different computer but same thing. Hoping it’s not a DOA drive.
What I would do: Enjoy classic software I know and like, look out for interesting stuff on 5.25-floppies on Ebay. Save it over to modern storage media. Digital archaeology.
I am getting a old Hyundai desktop computer from Bradford “Brad” LeMay and upgrade it with the latest components (BD-R drive, Windows 10 Home 32-Bit, 1TB hard drive, Intel Core i5 processor, nVidia graphics card, audio visual card and 16TB RAM)
I just got a 5.25" teac internal drive to adapt into a usb header on a Z77 extreme4 mobo... however, windows 10 64 pro refuses to think of it as a 1.2MB floppy...it only offers to format it as a 3.5" 1.44 MB floppy... clearly that won't do. Do you have any idea how to convince windows 10 to treat the 1.2MB floppy as what it is?
my 1.2mb floppy drive broke some months ago and I can't find a replacement, and since I'm in uruguay the concept of "just buy it on ebay" doesn't exist, it's very complicated and expensive to buy things from other countries and you run the risk of it getting confiscated because of stupid customs regulations.
Is it possible to attach an old 5.25 inch floppy drive to a modern PC or Mac using one of those IDE/SATA to USB adaptors? I'm strugging with this problem. I'm not sure if I'm barking up the wrong tree.
Not with an IDE interface (40-pin), but apparently they do make floppy-USB interfaces (34-pin). www.ebay.com/itm/1-44MB-3-5-Floppy-Drive-Connector-34-PIN-34P-to-USB-Cable-Adapter-PCB-Board/322934590717?epid=3026277803&hash=item4b3066ccfd:g:BIcAAOSwVEFb-T7~ What I don't know is whether this will be able to detect, or if you can set what kind of floppy you have connected. You can also go the other way around and get a USB-floppy emulator, but they're more expensive. www.ebay.com/itm/Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Converter-Emulator-for-Okuma-Lathe-free-8-GB-Flash-Drive/300723408804?epid=1754537345&hash=item4604830fa4:g:uGwAAOSwa~BYd0Mw
Even in the rare instance that there's power on that ribbon, it's only 5v on pin 20, the most you're going to do is short 5v to ground and blow the power supply fuse, but +5v on pin 20 is usually only seen on industrial machines that used IDE Disk-on-Modules, or in some newer 8-bit cards made specifically for installing CompactFlash on older machines... Unless you're talking about a laptop IDE connector, but you'd just be bringing the 5v power (logic level high) to data pins 7/8. It should be quite impossible to set something on fire that way. In an ordinary PC, there's no "active" power on those ribbons, only TTL logic lines that pass milliamps at best. No, something else went wrong there.
I had gotten the adapter from the university i was attending and worked at for free. They was going to throw it out. I am using it on a card reader atm.
you don't need a flip cable if you get how the jumpers on the drive work. almost all drives had a drive select jumper. Including Teac. Flip cables were invited by IBM because they figured the average user was to dumb to deal with drive jumpers. even tho adding a second drive to original PC's involved pulling the resistor pack from drive number 1. to dumb to set a jumper burt smart enough to pull a resistor pack? lol.
wtf I had those exact drives hell they may be in a box in my garage. I think this guy is collecting stuff I've used and sold or traded for newer gear that I wish I had..hmm Also the red wire signifies "wire 1"
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Threw tons of this stuff away 20 years ago. I’m 43 but feel old due to watching this video and thinking all the time: “yeah of course”. Its not a lost art for me but used to be daily stuff in the late 80s, early 90s 😂. Thanks for this trip down memory lane. Now looking for someone making a 5.25” to USB solution to read all my GW-Basic floppies (5.25”)
Ugh that sick feeling knowing all the computer bits we've thrown away as "worthless" only for them now to be useful (at least, interesting) again and worth more than they sold for new! :(
Story of my life. Even had an IBM 5150 with the keyboard when I was a kid, and threw out a VIC-20 probably about 5 or so years ago before I realized what they're worth... At least I kept my Tandys.
Yeah, when I was a kid in the early 80's I had all the star wars toys, the falcon x-wing and all. When I was getting older, my mother decided I was too old for them. All to the bin.
Back in those days "Cable Management" had a whole different meaning
It was more like "How can i manage to Connect all these Cables together?"
"How strong is your Origami?" "Oh I see your Origami is not strong!"
In the really old days (early 90s) that was the sort of machine I used for Netware 3.12 servers - lots of bays for 1G SCSI drives and EISA motherboard with Adaptec SCSI with never less than 16Gb of RAM. The 3 1/2" bay was for a DAT SCSI tape drive. Two servers with 8GB of drive space total could feed a company of 100. It was entirely possible to run Windows for Workgroups over the 10-baseT Netware network, although everyone had a local copy. This type case + 4 heavy Micropolis drives (big fat brick drives) and man that sucker was heavy. My desktop was an AST workstation -type PC with an equivalent build to the servers but less disk space (only 2 bricks). Those were the last days of "heavy" computing :)
As a retro computer geek, I still really don't miss working with those IDE cables, power cables and those kind of AT cases in general. It literally takes blood sweat and tears to get things working!
If I had a dollar for every time I cut myself on a computer and didn't feel it, but noticed later that I was bleeding... Well, I'd probably only have two dollars, but still... :P
I´m from the time where drive A was 3.5" and drive B was 5.25. Surely just a preference :) Thanks for sharing
I would say it's more indicative of the era. The main thing is making sure the A: drive matches the disks you need to boot from (mostly the DOS install disk and a boot disk with CD drivers, etc.)
I built my 386 with 5.25" as A:, as back then DOS 3.3 to DOS 5 would ordinarily come on 5.25" disks. Starting with my 486, the 3.5" is A:, since that's using DOS 6 which came mostly on 3.5" disks. The Pentium doesn't even have a 5.25" drive, since nobody was still using them by that time.
@@nickwallette6201 You're right. Particuarly, people would usually just keep whatever drive as A: that the machine came with, since that's what the system boot disks came on. It would come with a 5.25" drive, and they'd later add a 3.5" drive.
I kept my 5.25" drive in my main rig until well into the Pentium era. These days, my i7 has an internal floppy and ZIP drive, just for working with my retro computers.
Really nice to see these retro PCs, I'm holding a Pentium 3 for many years, thinking one day I'll find a matching sound card and video card. I have the Processor, RAM, Floppy, 20 GB Quantum Fireball, Original CD ROM came with the particular PC and of the casing.
I remember throwing these for recycling by the dozen not too long ago. Now, they're prized as retro-gaming rigs.
When I found that my PCB CAD program did not want to run on my newer 64-bit computers, I ended up rebuilding my old 32-bit unit with XP system. While at it, I stuffed both 5,25 inch and 3.5 inch floppy drives in. I never got rid of mine! Works pretty well and actually faster than a virtual XP on the new computer. My only issue is that I have not found my drivers for the USB to IEEE-488 adapter, which also did not even load into the 64-bitter. But I have hundreds of 5.25 inch as well as 3.5 inch floppies, mostly not converted into any newer media. Now I can again access them.
just found your channel and now I'm binge watching pretty much all the videos xD
a little trick I used back in the day with the power and floppy ribbon cables was that I'd always connect the power first and depending on the orientation of the red power cable I'd use that to figure out the orientation of the data cable - ie. if the red power cable was "pointing" in, then the red on the data should be right next to it, if it was "pointing" out of the drive than the data should be pointing out as well..
"Red together, or red apart". =3
Just wanted to say thanks for the video Adrian, I just got lucky with a machine someone was giving away. It randomly came with a 5.25 drive in it and it happens to be the exact same TEAC FD-55GFR drive in the video. I have it working alongside everything else, super nostalgic hearing the seeking sounds from both the A and B drive at boot like when I was a kid.
I used to have this problem back in the day when I started building my own, until I found the rounded or sleeved cable. They saved so much space and hassle.
I like the cute stepper motor in the 5.25'' floppy drive looks like a nema 14 or something.
Hilarious seeing the cable situation these days inside those old cases. I was there. I’m old enough and I used those computers and built some. Today looking in the glass side of my current pc you’d be hard pressed to see many cables. Nutty how far we’ve come.
[2023] "Gee, this guy Adrian seems to be just a regular person, and did a decent job on a short video. I wonder if he'll keep doing them..." 🤔
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Thanks so much!!!!! I was wondering why my floppy drive was not working. The light was always on. I flipped the cable around in the disk drive. Motherboard was not needed, and retried accessing the disk and it worked! Earned a sub :) Have a nice day
It is insane what the sell them for now! I use to have a box full of them I also think they ended up in a dump somewhere! who knew they actually be worth more today then the day I had bought them.
That's why things get rarer and more expensive.
I've been trying to get a 5.25" drive lately (mostly for use with the Greaseweazle, to write disks for old systems like the Apple II and Commodore 64) and the prices on these things are just stupid right now... I even just picked up a complete 486 system which, unfortunately, didn't have a 5" drive... It had a tape drive, which I don't really want to keep, which means I have a 5.25" drive bay that I'm going to need to fill or cover with... something... I'm thinking maybe throw an LCD screen in there, that's the kind of thing I'd have done back in the 90s...
Gotta love those old monster tower cases, too. Definitely had one of those for a while...
$10 for the floppy cable? I still have a bunch of them, and I was actually considering going through my parts boxes and cleaning them out. Now I need to sort through and sell them (nah, not looking for $10 a cable). And I have one of those adapter pieces, glued in a piece of cardboard to the opening since I needed to use it for holding a HDD (my case was missing the HDD cage).
My last 5 1/4" floppy drives got lost in a house fire, never bothered hunting down any more. And my current homebrew machine doesn't have a floppy connector on the motherboard.
The problem I remember with the proper alignment of the floppy cable was if you had to twist it around, you had a good chance the cable wouldn't reach the motherboard anymore. Also: if I remember those Micron cases, the drive cages might have been able to move/swing out of the way.
A quick tip for remembering where the red edge of the cable needs to go when plugging it into a 3.5" floppy drive... it always (I never ran into a contrary situation) goes on the side closest to the power connector of the floppy.
Also, if you managed to mess it up and get it backwards, it is very easy to recognize that you did put it on backwards, because the drive busy light on the drive will instantly turn on solid when the machine boots.
(ADDENDUM: I should really wait until the end of a video before making these comments... you mentioned my second part there all of two minutes later...)
I too have noticed that. Whether on hard drives or floppies, pin 1 seems to always be facing the power. Some floppy drives will mess you up and flip which end the power connector is on. I've also noticed that pin 3 is sometimes absent on the floppy header, which of course is on the side of pin 1. The one thing to watch out for though is working on some old XT-class systems that had the floppy power on the ribbon, like my Tandy 1000HX. Hook that up backwards, and watch the magic smoke escape. And then there's farting around for hours trying to get a replacement floppy working only to find out that the machine uses Shugart floppies rather than the (now) PC-standard, and you need to swap pins 10 and 12 on Drive A: to get the replacement working.
Red-red.
You can probably put an SD card hard drive emulator above the Zip drive if you need to.
Most people would just go with a Compact Flash, since it's basically IDE anyways.
Yes, Micron is still existing now, manufacturing memory chips for its RAM and SSD product line (Crucial).
WOW, I still have at least one in a drawer, plus boxes of floppies. I think I transferred all my software to CD then to DVD. Still have the floppies and drive in case i want to revive my stored 486 i had as a router/server. Most cases I've ever owned had 2 sets of holes for back or front fan, so you could use different size fans.
3:43 I love it!!!
I've kept my old peripherals all this time, so I still have several 5.25" FDD's ... not to mention big stacks of 5.25" & 3.5" floppies, which are not just for PC's, but also for my Commodore 64 system(s). I also have one of those combo internal 3.5" & 5.25" FDD's, for fitting in one bay slot. And also an internal Iomega Zip100 drive ... which is like miles faster than the external parallel port Zip drive, which I also still have.
I have to wonder about that MSI badge. I am unfamiliar with any of MSI's (MicroStar) older logos, apart from the compass & dragon symbols. If that is not "the" MSI we all know, then it's possible that is a different MSI company. PC companies boomed & waned back in the 1980's & 1990's. I've kept a few Computer Shopper catalogs from the late 1980's, I'm talking about those big thick wide books & inside there were any advertisements from PC companies, many of them now defunct.
I love fulltowers, so that MSI one is nice. I only have one full tower, bought for something like $50, w/ PSU, about 20 years ago. Apart from the standard locations of the many bays, it additionally had a bay at the roof of the tower, like where your left hand is holding the top frame strut at the 3 minute mark of the video, which makes sense since there's lots of empty space there above the PSU.
Hey Adrian,
on very old floppy drives you can configure the drive as A or B drive.
For example the drives in the Commodore PC 10 III.
Is has two 5.25 drives (360kB) and a non swapped cable.
I don't know when they stopped to bulid in the jumper on the drive to configure adresse.
But from then on all drives that I got where hard configured as B Drive.
That 3.5" one could be used for an IBM 5150 AT. You may just need to add some drive rails so it sits properly in the drive bay.
IBM 5150 wasn't an AT. It'd still work, but the issue is that you'd be limited to reading 720K, unless you can find an 2HD floppy controller that works on an 8-bit slot.
I saw one of these Micron machines at my old job at Staples...sadly it had been heavily damaged! I should have grabbed the processor with that crazy heat sink though...
If I remember, it actually screwed-into a holder on the CPU.
Honestly i think that you should keep the old fan in the case, its original and i think such old computers should be kept with original parts.
Computers back then havent been made to be silent and to me its just nice to listen to an old "noisy" computer.
I read that Micron used parts from all sorts of vendors though. So I agree with Adrian here. A busted fan needs replacement.
@@northof-62 It did not sound busted to me at all. However even "busted" fans can be fixed either by new lubrication or by replacing the bearings.
@@44Kilovolt Ok - my experience is with fans without bearings. They eventually get too much room and start to rattle.
I try not to think about the stuff I took to the tip... Anyway, nice video; thank you for posting!
That case would be great for a sleeper build.
Old computers should be loud. If you want a quiet one, just emulate on your new computer. It adds to the character of the legacy device 🙂🙂👍👍
Funny thing: Most of the really old micro computers (home computers) don't need a fan and are completely silent - which I love about my C64s.
Yeah for sure. But the HDD makes up for all that silence HAHA@@NuntiusLegis
@@Universal.G HDDs became nice with bigger file sizes, but were not really necessary for the C64 or the early IBM PCs. With the usually moderate file sizes and a fastloader cartridge, a disk drive almost feels like a HDD on the C64. :-)
Hmm, I have a bunch of 5 1/4 floppies laying around. Maybe it's time to hunt for a drive :)
Learning so much from this video
LS-120 in the additional 3.5 slot, for all that late 90's storage goodness.
I got a near-stock Micron Millenia XKU as well!
Hi Adrian - - I wanted to ask how you were able to define the Teac 5 1/4" floppy drive in the CMOS???
I have the exact same Micron tower PC that I bought brand new in 1998, and the same Teac FD-55GFR 5 1/4" floppy drive. When I went into the CMOS to define the new drive, I discovered that there was no option to add a "B" drive??? Can you give me a hint as to how you were able to define the new drive?
I would appreciate it --- THX, Chuck
I understand... Thank you for getting back to me. I guess I'll have to use one of my other old PCs to back up my old 5.25 floppy files. THX!!!
cool case! :)
I liked the InWin Q500 case. Lost mine in our house fire though.
Can not fault this dudes video's 💪👍
Awesome video! Thank you!!
That was fun. Thank you.
Tape deck next :-D - Oh I see the iomega Zip drive GG
So did you do a complete setup with the crt you got along with it?
The RED stripe Always goes toward Power.
You need to bust out some mechwarrior 2 on that bad boy
Looks identical to a pos Dell Deminsion 2100 that I bought in the I think in 2000.
put the zip in the bottom single bay and the 2 3.5 drives in the double bay......
I've got a very similiar case, and i love it as well! The only problem with my one was overheating (i've put a Sempron board inside, not quite period-accurate but i didn't know this at the time, and that was just what i had) - have you encountered it?
BTW, great video :)
What motherboard did you select with a Bios that supports the 1.2 drive?
Thanks
I have all of those
Did it test out good with a floppy disc? I obtained the same Teac drive (brand new, incidentally) and I got it installed in a Dell Optiplex. It does the brief light up during POST and shows in Windows 10 but it will not read or recognize any disks. Tried in a different computer but same thing. Hoping it’s not a DOA drive.
If yellowing is your problem try the 8bit guy, he is into brightening things up.
If I may ask, what do you to all those machines after fixing and upgrading them?
What I would do: Enjoy classic software I know and like, look out for interesting stuff on 5.25-floppies on Ebay. Save it over to modern storage media. Digital archaeology.
I am getting a old Hyundai desktop computer from Bradford “Brad” LeMay and upgrade it with the latest components (BD-R drive, Windows 10 Home 32-Bit, 1TB hard drive, Intel Core i5 processor, nVidia graphics card, audio visual card and 16TB RAM)
I just got a 5.25" teac internal drive to adapt into a usb header on a Z77 extreme4 mobo... however, windows 10 64 pro refuses to think of it as a 1.2MB floppy...it only offers to format it as a 3.5" 1.44 MB floppy... clearly that won't do. Do you have any idea how to convince windows 10 to treat the 1.2MB floppy as what it is?
my 1.2mb floppy drive broke some months ago and I can't find a replacement, and since I'm in uruguay the concept of "just buy it on ebay" doesn't exist, it's very complicated and expensive to buy things from other countries and you run the risk of it getting confiscated because of stupid customs regulations.
120mb superdisk
0:09 I'm going to put my bets on...wood grain
damn...so close
Is it possible to attach an old 5.25 inch floppy drive to a modern PC or Mac using one of those IDE/SATA to USB adaptors? I'm strugging with this problem. I'm not sure if I'm barking up the wrong tree.
Not with an IDE interface (40-pin), but apparently they do make floppy-USB interfaces (34-pin). www.ebay.com/itm/1-44MB-3-5-Floppy-Drive-Connector-34-PIN-34P-to-USB-Cable-Adapter-PCB-Board/322934590717?epid=3026277803&hash=item4b3066ccfd:g:BIcAAOSwVEFb-T7~
What I don't know is whether this will be able to detect, or if you can set what kind of floppy you have connected.
You can also go the other way around and get a USB-floppy emulator, but they're more expensive. www.ebay.com/itm/Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Converter-Emulator-for-Okuma-Lathe-free-8-GB-Flash-Drive/300723408804?epid=1754537345&hash=item4604830fa4:g:uGwAAOSwa~BYd0Mw
I think if I want to use old media I need to build a retro rig.
Edge connector, not slot :)
Wow thats an IDE zip, not ATAPI.
what is the thing that's not the 5.25 drive, the 3.5 drive or the cd drive?.
Pelger
Its a zip drive
oooooooooh, ok. now I remember them I never used one but I remember those being sold at stores.
Adrian doesn't have any 5.25" disks? How old is this video?
It's OOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDD. This was my first retro computer that I had aquired .... the digital basement wasn't a thing at that point.
i remember destroying some floppy drives, every time i remember that i start hating myself for doing it
One time I accidentally plugged a PATA ribbon cable in the wrong way around. It caught on fire when I turned the computer on.
Even in the rare instance that there's power on that ribbon, it's only 5v on pin 20, the most you're going to do is short 5v to ground and blow the power supply fuse, but +5v on pin 20 is usually only seen on industrial machines that used IDE Disk-on-Modules, or in some newer 8-bit cards made specifically for installing CompactFlash on older machines... Unless you're talking about a laptop IDE connector, but you'd just be bringing the 5v power (logic level high) to data pins 7/8. It should be quite impossible to set something on fire that way. In an ordinary PC, there's no "active" power on those ribbons, only TTL logic lines that pass milliamps at best.
No, something else went wrong there.
I had gotten the adapter from the university i was attending and worked at for free. They was going to throw it out. I am using it on a card reader atm.
"What's this? Some kind of assembly." ROFL.
a tall tower
interested in selling the MSI case?
he looks like Steve jobs
you don't need a flip cable if you get how the jumpers on the drive work. almost all drives had a drive select jumper. Including Teac. Flip cables were invited by IBM because they figured the average user was to dumb to deal with drive jumpers. even tho adding a second drive to original PC's involved pulling the resistor pack from drive number 1. to dumb to set a jumper burt smart enough to pull a resistor pack? lol.
Fak those floppy cables SATA for life!!
wtf I had those exact drives hell they may be in a box in my garage. I think this guy is collecting stuff I've used and sold or traded for newer gear that I wish I had..hmm
Also the red wire signifies "wire 1"
my comment here ;)