Planet: Special
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2020
- Delivered 190 years ago on 4 October 1830, "Planet" was the first mainline express passenger locomotive. Designed by Robert Stephenson, she was the culmination of a frenetic 33-month development programme, and represented a step-change in locomotive design. An authentic working replica was steamed in 1992 which allowed the rediscovery of the lost skills of driving and firing an 1830s express locomotive.
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I must say, it's a very elegant looking loco.
Stephenson had great vision, coupled to the ability to get things done.
Planet is a truly beautiful locomotive, one of my favourite Georgian steam locomotives.
I can see why you've got a soft spot for her; what an elegant machine - and groundbreaking for its day. What a wonderful way to spend ten minutes!
Many thanks!
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory I am guessing she's a bit different from the other engine
@@eliotreader8220 The two main differences are an all-steel welded boiler and an injector. Otherwise it operates and performs exactly as the originals did.
Such a beautiful engine. Loved hearing you describe her so affectionately.
Seen a couple videos of the replica and it always surprises me that they open the regulator fully and even then it's only inclined to move off at a rather sedate pace 🤔
It's only a 50psi boiler (or equivalent at the cylinders). It's the same with Lion, too. She moves off at her own pace, too. That said we've run the replica of Planet at 30mph and potentially nearly 40mph.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Quite a speedster for her age (well, design age anyway)
Very much a grand old lady, if you get in her way she is unforgiving but, treat her with respect and she'll show her grace and elegance
Used to see Planet regularly from the train on the short runs near Deansgate Station. Ironically now way shortened by a new railway line.
Surprisingly not mentioned: In 1837 a Planet Class 2-2-0 was the first steam locomotive to operate in Austria. A year later, in 1838, a second Planet, shipped over with the first as part of the same order, also became the first steam locomotive to operate in Czechoslovakia.
The two for service on the Kaiser Ferdinand Nordbahn were built by Robert Stephenson & Co in Newcastle, so they're included amongst those built in Britain :-)
Really wish I could visit the UK to see all these engines and their replicas, but alas, I’m in the USA
It's too bad that we have a working replica of John Bull, but the museum which has it declines to get it back into operable condition.
@@furripupau It's a shame the replica is of John Bull as it stands now in its mussed up state rather than as delivered.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory It is kind of odd, but I think it is understandable. It was easier to simply measure the original as it existed and duplicate everything than it would have been to try and replicate original parts that no longer existed.
Very interesting.
Amazing such a simple way to drive the engine, absolutely astonishing
First time I, Bev Pardoe, have seen this. Well done Anthony.
Thankyou, Bev. That means an awful lot! Do you fancy helping out with the design of an 0-4-0 version? There's also a 2-2-0 one being built in the Czech Republic!
finally I understand how rocket and planet reverse gear is working and why do you need those leavers. Thank you!
excellent
Thank you for the description of the its operation. It does have me wonder how they went about training people to drive it though. I guess the Rocket replica would have provided some hands on experience with slip eccentric valve gear at least.
With the Planet replica they learned how to operate the valve gear when the 'bottom' end was completed and the engine was turning over on compressed air to set the valves. However, despite this, when it was first steamed, they could make it go neither forward nor backwards, and the learning curve, hands on with the locomotive, was vertical. Back in the 1830s experience from Rocket, Northumbrian etc would have provided key skills for operating such a locomotive. But with the replica it was back to basics and working from first principals to get her to move.
That was brilliant.
Thankyou. More like that on the way once things start running again.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
The best you've done yet!
Thankyou
This is akin to the first successful personal computer. Everything came together and the pattern was set.
At MOSI ive ridden on the replica. Shes even more amazing in person.
When you've driven or fired her - as I used to most weekends - you fall in love with her. She's gorgeous.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory been going to MOSI since i was 2.
I can't tell you how happy I am that I found your channel. I love steam locomotives, but especially those in the UK because they are objectively more pleasing to the eye than the clunky looking ones here in the U.S. Sorry ya'll. It's true.
Is there any literature you could recommend for the technical side of steam locomotives (of any era)?
Welcome aboard! Literature wise, I know it's bad form to blow your own trumpet, but if you want technical see:www.amazon.co.uk/Locomotives-Liverpool-Manchester-Railway-Anthony/dp/1526763982
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Would you happen to go over the tech of those locos in the book? I'm having the hardest time finding books that go over things like that.
@@Mr.Rogers143 There's a whole chapter. And a whole chapter in this: www.amazon.co.uk/Planet-Samson-Locomotives-Design-Development/dp/1399092642
Can you do a video on William Francis, Britain’s sole surviving standard gauge Bayer-Garratt articulated locomotive?
William IV was King and Victoria not yet Queen! This must be the Model T of locomotives. I think better locos required stronger rails, doubtless Stephenson had to wait for that and had designs in mind. It's likely George III knew about early locos.
George Stephenson was the first engineer to see that the wheel and rail belonged together, as he said 'like man and wife'. Something his son also learned. One of the man reasons that six wheel Patentee came along was to reduce axle load.
Sorry if I've missed it someplace, but what is the purpose of the wood cladding on the boilers on so many of these engines? insulation? helping to strengthen the boiler?
It's insulation to prevent heat loss (radient heat). There was a layer of wool felt between the boiler barrel and the mahogany cladding.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Thankyou!
did the Liverpool and Manchester railway fit hand brakes to the tenders of their steam locomotives after the accident at Parkside on the opening day? did you see the working replica of Plant on tv making a special appearance in a episode of the Victoria tv series
They already had hand brakes fitted as parking brakes in January 1830. I was one of the regular firemen on Planet and also trainee driver, so I was disappointed not to go with her to the GC.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory what is it like to drive and fire the working replica of Plant do you feel as if you have walked back in time?.
do you know any thing about how they used Planet during the filming of the episode? i have read that during the filming of the film young Winston which was made on part of the Longmoor railway film crews did not know much about steam locomotives or how to use them correctly and i understand at one point they got under the feet of the late wild life artist David Shepard because they did not tell when they needed his engine to be ready for use in filming and this caused a lot of trouble.
@@eliotreader8220 Other than having a blower and an injector, she's identical to the original machine. So it's exactly like working on the original. So it's like stepping back in time - same with any other replica locomotive or piece of historic working machinery. Even more so with Planet as the crew turn out in period appropriate attire.
2:00 - Why does she look very 'nose up' here?