The fact that you gave the disclaimer at the start of the video was much appreciated, even though most of your audience is interested in HA. I just kept on watching to help you with retention. Thanks for keeping us in mind and for all the great content!
Seriously, for the same price you can buy a fire tablet and install fully kiosk on there even with buying the pro licence of fully. Giving you a ton more AND its intergratable with HA. I see zero value in this awkward thing.
@@oscarwenstedt2377 I gave the reason why I (me not you or anyone else) see zero value in this, what apears to me, akward thing. You give reason why it does work for you. Great! you do you! That doesn't change that comparing it with a wall tablet works perfect for ME. no apples and no oranges here...
I think this would be amazing for a small tiny home, it could run 2-3 indoor/outdoor lights, alarm, door triggers and maybe some RGB lights. I think this is a great product for what it is and the price.
Must say I will stay clear of such an early release product, I have been burnt to many times. For fun I still need to setup my 4 nspanels and was wondering are you still using esphome or have you moved to Tasmota. Noticed that they are claiming HA support now, so will unbox this weekend. Fingers crossed 🤞
Hey Claire. I’m still using ESPHome on mine :) Been working great. The NSPanel is claiming HA support? 😯. Im gonna guess there saying it’s with the eWeLink Add-on 😫
I wonder if you could hook it up to a PC using that micro USB port and use adb tools to sideload APK files (like the home assistant companion app) on the device.
@@OPB682 I got your point and that's definitely easier/cheaper. But I see some advantages with the ns panel pro. 1. There's no battery inside so it can't swell. 2. You can easily replace an unused wall outlet with this. 3. No running wires or diy tinkering to get it mounted to the wall. I agree that a tablet can be a better solution if you want to get more performance and have the time / skills to wall mount a tablet properly.
Thanks, Mark. Great video! How did you manage to get the RTSP stream from your Reolinks to work on it? I tried with mine. My rtsp link works great in VLC Media player, but the NSPanel Pro keeps telling me that it fails to view. 🤷♂
@@MarkWattTech Yeah, I used sub and main, but both do not work. I tried the Reolink E1 Outdoor and the E1 Zoom. Both didn't respond on the NSPanel Pro, but do respond on VLC media player with the same RTSP URL and credentials. Weird that it works on your end and not on mine. Anyway, another puzzle to crack ;)
@@MarkWattTech OMG... Maybe, just maybe it might be that my NSPanel is on my guest network and my cameras are not. Sounds plausible, but I'll check it tomorrow. Thanks Mark!
Currently it isn’t compatible. The eWeLink add-on that Sonoff mention also isn’t supported by HA (see linked articles in description). Should any of this change I will update the description and potentially revisit it in another video.
Did you try the Sonoff local integration with it ? I have a few TX switches running Sonoff firmware via Ewelink and use them via that integration in HA. Was wondering if it sees it at all.
Is it just me or this "pro" is a compatible or even a down nspanel that were sent. I'm trying to find something that would justify the "upgrade " but just can't.
I won’t be getting one. In New Zealand we use the US version and it has no relays. And no ESPHome option or local Home Assistance. I don’t buy anything that isn’t local and can’t be added to Home Assistant.
Don't worry, you will both be mentioned in the history books. It's such a big thing to be first and actually comment with "first". What other important things is happening right now that could possibly be worth mentioning for the following generations?
Aside from the lack of hackability and relays who actually has live and neutral to switch? New build maybe but most of market gone immediately 🤷♂️ Interesting video Mark made me even more convinced it’s an awful product 😂 Desk stand looks awful as well….
Pulling down a neutral is easy. It's just a matter of minutes and you only need a very cheap tool to do it. But you need to be qualified to make it legally
@@TheHellis not in my house it’s not as no space . Don’t need to be qualified unless a part P area in UK. Would do it if I could, assume you are not in this part of the world? If it was a stud wall it would be dead easy
@@TheHellis steel channel in places and buried direct in plaster in places, impossible to pull through apart from one stud wall which I’ve already done 😂 I’ve got fish tape and rods and unfortunately it’s not possible without quite a lot of redecorating! As each toon gets done I’ll change it.
The fact that you gave the disclaimer at the start of the video was much appreciated, even though most of your audience is interested in HA. I just kept on watching to help you with retention.
Thanks for keeping us in mind and for all the great content!
Thank you sir :)
Seriously, for the same price you can buy a fire tablet and install fully kiosk on there even with buying the pro licence of fully. Giving you a ton more AND its intergratable with HA. I see zero value in this awkward thing.
It’s more the form factor and design. But yeah totally agree. I hate this type of product release where your paying and hoping for what was promised.
That is comparing apples and pears. Tablets don't have this form factor, nor 240V power supply, nor 2 relays.....It is a totally different thing
@@oscarwenstedt2377 I gave the reason why I (me not you or anyone else) see zero value in this, what apears to me, akward thing.
You give reason why it does work for you. Great! you do you!
That doesn't change that comparing it with a wall tablet works perfect for ME. no apples and no oranges here...
I think this would be amazing for a small tiny home, it could run 2-3 indoor/outdoor lights, alarm, door triggers and maybe some RGB lights. I think this is a great product for what it is and the price.
Must say I will stay clear of such an early release product, I have been burnt to many times. For fun I still need to setup my 4 nspanels and was wondering are you still using esphome or have you moved to Tasmota.
Noticed that they are claiming HA support now, so will unbox this weekend. Fingers crossed 🤞
Hey Claire. I’m still using ESPHome on mine :)
Been working great.
The NSPanel is claiming HA support? 😯. Im gonna guess there saying it’s with the eWeLink Add-on 😫
I wonder if you could hook it up to a PC using that micro USB port and use adb tools to sideload APK files (like the home assistant companion app) on the device.
Lets find out 👀
Just buy a 4" Android switch and save all the hassle
@@OPB682
I got your point and that's definitely easier/cheaper.
But I see some advantages with the ns panel pro.
1. There's no battery inside so it can't swell.
2. You can easily replace an unused wall outlet with this.
3. No running wires or diy tinkering to get it mounted to the wall.
I agree that a tablet can be a better solution if you want to get more performance and have the time / skills to wall mount a tablet properly.
I wish someone made an all in one tablet based on Android like this that was all stock. To integrate it with home assistant
yes agree with you +with poe port
@@jabolko1k that would be awesome
Thanks, Mark. Great video! How did you manage to get the RTSP stream from your Reolinks to work on it? I tried with mine. My rtsp link works great in VLC Media player, but the NSPanel Pro keeps telling me that it fails to view. 🤷♂
Thanks Ed. Which camera are you using? I just used the normal Reolink rtsp url (sub one).
Eufy ones load instantly
@@MarkWattTech Yeah, I used sub and main, but both do not work. I tried the Reolink E1 Outdoor and the E1 Zoom. Both didn't respond on the NSPanel Pro, but do respond on VLC media player with the same RTSP URL and credentials. Weird that it works on your end and not on mine. Anyway, another puzzle to crack ;)
@@SmartHomeJunkie in the video i used the e1 outdoor 🙈
@@MarkWattTech OMG... Maybe, just maybe it might be that my NSPanel is on my guest network and my cameras are not. Sounds plausible, but I'll check it tomorrow. Thanks Mark!
Yep, that was it. The camera should be connected to the same SSID as the Sonoff Panel.
Now it works. And it's quite fast as well. Thx Mark.
Hello.
Some news from the video?
is the panel compatible with HA? I have just canceled a ns panel order when I have seen this video.
Currently it isn’t compatible. The eWeLink add-on that Sonoff mention also isn’t supported by HA (see linked articles in description).
Should any of this change I will update the description and potentially revisit it in another video.
If the panel doesn't have a motion sensor, why is it kicking out infrared light? I see you twinkling above that tft panel!
Did you try the Sonoff local integration with it ? I have a few TX switches running Sonoff firmware via Ewelink and use them via that integration in HA. Was wondering if it sees it at all.
I do show it in the video :)
The Sonoff LAN integration will pick up most devices but they won’t have any entities (like this one).
I'd like to see your thoughts on door locks. It seems we don't have many options on the marketing, virtually zero options on zigbee door locks.
I did have a Zigbee doorlock video that didn’t release 🤪. I still use it as my office door lock
Is it fireproof? There are electrical regulations it needs to comply if you install it on your house in UK
All the fire regs and tech specs are listed on the site
Can you do a more updated video on Eufy and Govee? Things have changed since then.
Maybe eufy. But I won’t do anything with Govee till the local API releases 👍🏻
Not sure this will be the ZigBee hub I'm looking for!!
Great! video with a lot of useful information, but the speed of your talking is way too high for a non english speaker
Is it just me or this "pro" is a compatible or even a down nspanel that were sent. I'm trying to find something that would justify the "upgrade " but just can't.
I see that Aqara have bought out a panel too but I haven't seen any info about this. Does anyone know much about it?
I was going to wait till Matter took off to checkout the Aqara one. I imagine it’s in the same boat with just supporting Aqara devices etc
but why do i need phone to use it? waiting for Home Assistant support
It’s more for the initial setup and some of the other bits of config. It’s not a straight up out of the box solution.
I won’t be getting one. In New Zealand we use the US version and it has no relays. And no ESPHome option or local Home Assistance. I don’t buy anything that isn’t local and can’t be added to Home Assistant.
I'd like to be able to use it without an Ewelink account, something like this will have it's internet access removed on my home network.
As soon as you get it connected you can block its external access :)
@@MarkWattTech Good to know, I hope this doesn't interfere with their Home Assistant plugin.
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Noooooo!! You beat me by 30 seconds lol
Don't worry, you will both be mentioned in the history books.
It's such a big thing to be first and actually comment with "first".
What other important things is happening right now that could possibly be worth mentioning for the following generations?
@@TheHellis like you writing this comment, thanks for the validation lol
9:22 i have the same issue on my androids. seems to be an android thing.
Maybe. I’m not a big android user 😋
@@MarkWattTech neither was i, until apple pissed me off too many times,and i decided to give them the finger.
Aside from the lack of hackability and relays who actually has live and neutral to switch? New build maybe but most of market gone immediately 🤷♂️ Interesting video Mark made me even more convinced it’s an awful product 😂
Desk stand looks awful as well….
Pulling down a neutral is easy.
It's just a matter of minutes and you only need a very cheap tool to do it.
But you need to be qualified to make it legally
@@TheHellis not in my house it’s not as no space . Don’t need to be qualified unless a part P area in UK. Would do it if I could, assume you are not in this part of the world? If it was a stud wall it would be dead easy
@@TheHellis not if buried in plaster, dead easy in stud wall. Can be done perfectly legally in UK if not in a part P area
@@iainhay2823 we have concrete walls.
Isn't your cables inside conduit?
@@TheHellis steel channel in places and buried direct in plaster in places, impossible to pull through apart from one stud wall which I’ve already done 😂 I’ve got fish tape and rods and unfortunately it’s not possible without quite a lot of redecorating! As each toon gets done I’ll change it.
It's Chinese "ready" for market. We are stupid enough to keep paying these guys for half thought out tech. And by WE I mean not me.
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