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My Mock mill arrived yesterday, and I came back to your chanel to watch this video. In India storing grains for centuries and bugs have always been a issue. I remeber in my child hoold it was a summer task with grandmother, and we as her little helpers ued to wash wheat - twice, and sun dry it. We would run up the terrece to churn the wheat so as it would dry properly. And it used to be fun running fingers thru the grain. Then we would store in large metal bins which were air tight. For preventing bugs, we would put neem leaves - green ones in layers. Later on some pills came in market and we started putting them instead - to discontinue them later as we came to know that they had heavy metals in them. This summer ritual came to end when granny could do it any more and we got busy with our schools. Parents were working so had less time for this, and also availabilty of packaged milled flour. well now the process is back, I am all grown up, kids finished college and even though I am wrking, I want to get back to eating healthy and wise. Small steps at a time. Love your chanel and your work, all the effort in teaching us all bread and soap making ( I still have to try my hands on soap making - bought all the ingridents but didnt start it ) Your latest video about taking it slow on social media - Can totally relate. Spending time with people who are present in reality is more important, as compared to typing to online people. Wishing you the best in coming ventures and life. You are an awesome teacher. Thanks so so much
Thank you so much for your wonderful comment. What a legacy you have with whole grain foods! I'm glad to be a part of your journey. Much love to India x
Great video Elly. Thanks for uploading, lots of useful info. Didn't realise can store all these items in the freezer. I have quite a few kg's worth of whole meal flour so best to store them in the freezer, had no idea you could. As you know I am much more room in my chest freezer now as I am doing ultra concentrated plant milks, will pop my flours in the freezer! And hello Kevin, so cute he wanted to hang out with mummy as she films! 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks George, yes it's a great technique to store any dry pantry goods that might spoil in the fridge or freezer. I love your milk concentrates idea - great to save that space for other important things! Love your work :)
Our climate in my part of Texas is very close to yours in the summer so I store carefully also. We are sitting on gold mines as the prices climb so we can't take any chances. Thank you for sharing!
Elly. I have such great respect for you. YOUR video is the one that got me to keep trying when I was at my wits end trying to make sourdough bread, back before either of us were milling our grains at home. So much of the advice you give here is antithetical to what I have learned in the U.S., and I have never lived where you live so I am not going to say you are wrong, but you DID ask for correction if anyone had any and I love you too much not to share what I have learned both in my own experience here in Central Texas (very HOT in summers and HUMID year-round, and we do have plenty of bugs and moths, etc.). First I want to say that whole wheat (hard white and hard red mostly) is something I have been purchasing for a couple years now in 25-lb. bags. I have food grade plastic buckets that "preppers" are known for using a lot here in the States for storing all manner of food items. I have no idea whether you can get them in Australia, but I have several 5-gallon buckets with resealable lids (which I seal with a heavy rubber mallet and open with a bucket opener -- tools that are absolutely necessary if you don't have those -- very expensive -- "gamma" lids). I do have ONE gamma lid on ONE bucket and it is handy but it took two of my housemates' adult nephews to put all their muscle and weight on it to install the rim is uses and I will NOT be getting another one of those (though you will find many in the U.S. swearing by them). I am happy with my original lids, heavy rubber mallet and bucket opener for the other buckets. Anyhow, this is the thing: I have only been doing this a couple of years, but there was only ONE instance where any bugs showed up in a bucket (and ruined the contents) -- and it turns out that was the bucket where I had disingenuously thought, "Oh, there is extra room. Let me add a big ziplock bag of corn in this bucket"). I had NOT frozen the corn first. I am totally convinced that the (white winter wheat) that was also in that bucket was NOT the source of the bugs -- but the CORN. Corn and rice are the only two grains I know for sure SHOULD be frozen to kill bugs and/or their eggs before storing. That experience of losing at least 10-15 lbs. of wheat plus the corn in that bucket got me to doing a LOT of research. Didn't want that to ever happen again! I am certain it was the corn that was the culprit and not the wheat. There are several videos put out by a woman who has been milling her own grain for 11 years now regarding storing grain and her experience. The oldest of the three videos was made 2 years ago, so was after 9 YEARS storing buckets of wheat (and some other grains) where she lives in FLORIDA -- which I have visited several times, and can vouch that it is every bit as humid (if not more so) as Central Texas and HOT.. She has been storing her wheatberries in a shed that has NO insulation or temperature control and has not had any trouble at all keeping her wheat stored in sealed buckets (and jars) in the very humid and hot place she lives. She does not add oxygen absorbers or use mylar bags or anything. She just makes sure her buckets and jars are well sealed each time she uses them. Nine years experience talks to me and I was SO relieved to learn that she NEVER froze her wheatberries. She just put them straight into the buckets -- or left them in the buckets in which she bought the grains. She has a big family, so she stores a lot. I WAS going to move to Australia many years ago (though as it turned out I did not and in fact have never been there), but at that time I got a LOT of coaching about the bugs, spiders and whatnot in Australia and I know that there is probably no place in the U.S. to compete -- but still I wonder: can it be true that weevils' eggs come with the wheat that is grown in Australia? All I can tell you is that they do not here in the U.S., where the wheat is grown in many different climates across the country. Enough of the "book" I have written here. I wanted to give you links to Felicia's videos regarding her experience in storing grains: th-cam.com/video/cKWXYSNoQ_Y/w-d-xo.html -- How to Store Whole Grains, Beans, Corn, Rice (video she made after 9 years experience storing grains in Florida) th-cam.com/video/ye6RmyW4a4I/w-d-xo.html -- Three Biggest Grain Storage MYTHS BUSTED - How to Store Grains (a video she made after 10 years' experience storing grains in Florida) th-cam.com/video/MKAB14gZYYc/w-d-xo.html -- How to Store Whole Grains - Do You Need Mylar Bags and Oxygen Absorbers? (another video she made after 10 years' experience) I'll be honest -- I do not like the feeling of "correcting" my wonderful teacher that has helped me so much, but I do so in the hopes that learning from Felicia (of the TH-cam channel Grains and Grit) will give you as much of a feeling of relief as it did for me. It was due to one of those videos that I realized that the CORN had been the culprit in my one experience with bugs in the bucket!
Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes, I know Felicia! From all the research I've done, the weevils definitely come in on the grain. They are grain weevils, they need the grain to reproduce and hatch out of. I've only had them once, and never since freezing! I think Felicia has been extremely lucky! Or her grain is very strongly treated with pesticides? I always use organic. Depends very much on the behaviour of the producers and distributers also. Thanks for your kind words :)
I forgot to add, yes the corn could easily do it too! I think there are types of weevils that enjoy corn. I've never had grain corn here, it's not something that's widely available, so definitely the wheat/rye berries were the issue at my place.
This is such good information! I never thought about bugs, but now I am going to obsess about it! I'm almost finished with a 25 lb bag and just reordered some grain so I will use the idea of portioning it into smaller bags to freeze it for a week or so. Thank you so much! I have missed your videos.
You're welcome Lori! I've been posting a bit more regularly lately and will continue through the year, all going well. Nice to see you here! Glad this was helpful to you. I think people are lucky in some climates bugs don't hatch easily, but freezer processing the grain is a good idea as a safe guard I think. It seems to work very well! Have fun caring for your grain :)
I have been freezing my grains for 7 days when I purchase them. It's such a habit that I don't think about it. Doing so has helped to keep my pantry pest free. I also wipe down the counters and other storage areas at least once a month with a 1/4 cup of white vinegar to 8 ounces or so of water that I mix in a spray bottle.
In Canada we have cold room it’s down in the basement so I store my flour there in counters in winter time it’s very cold you freeze if you stay in there for 30 minutes so maybe it’s fine to store it there. Have a great day Elly thanks 🙏 for all the great videos I learned a lot .
Ah that's brilliant Antionette, I'd love to have a cold place like that to store my grain. Sounds like an ideal set up for lots of produce items. You wouldn't need a back up fridge or freezer like we have!
"I do not know any thing about bread making...very interested...will do and I've decided to study thru you...you are a very smart girl...very grateful to meet you...will share your name with others, just subscribed, love del"
This was very interesting! I have my Mockmill and grain on order, so I need to think about storage. Our freezer capacity is always at a premium as we make big batches of things to eat over time. I reckon I will treat my grains in the freezer for several days and then store them in five gallon buckets in the basement. I think all that Mylar bag stuff is for preppers who want to store food for decades in case of some sort of calamity.
I just bought my first while wheat berries for milling & they will now go straight into the freezer for 3 days - ibwobder if my household freezer goes that low! Lovely to hear an Australian accent - your tios are great
Hey Elly. I enjoyed watching...needed my Elly fix so came on to see what you'd recorded. This was really informative, thanks. I love how organised you are...comes from years of doing it. We have such a small freezer, want to get myself more organised with storage and freezing. The 'getting up off the floor' bit made me laugh out loud. Thank you for leaving it in! And hello Kevin :-)
My same response with your little "AaH", trying to rise from squatting lol! I like the freezer storage. Will follow your system when I start buying in bulk and grinding. Bay leaves work for me in short term storage.Have never had issues with weevils, except once in pasta. But like you, once is enough.
Thanks so much for the info, Elly! I did not really realize the need for this until my daughter, who was moving to Hawaii, left some of her organic bread flour in my pantry. After several months, I went to use it & it was filled with bugs!! Yuck! I didn't really think about the wheat berries that I have - they are stored in food grade buckets that are supposedly air tight so hopefully, are OK. But things are definitely going in the freezer first thing from now on! Looks like you have a good system going on! Thanks so much!
Hi there! I freeze my grains as well but for 2 weeks (some online instruction from somewhere said to do so) ... then I keep them, opened, at room temp for 1 day to dry. Next, I place the bulk of my grains in gallon size mylar bags with oxygen absorbers for my longer term storage. I keep what I need at hand in sealed glass jars, Tupperware, etc, similar to you. I only encountered bugs once before I knew that freezing killed them & their eggs. Thanks. 🙂
That's brilliant Laura! I think everyone has their own variation on the process. That's interesting you keep them in the open air to dry them from the freezer - mine would be soaked if I did that!
What a timely video! I turned on TH-cam to pass the time while I got my grain ready for storage, so I watched it while I worked. I too normally store grain in the freezer, but I break it down into smaller bags first (Food Saver, so vacuum packed). I'm stocking up more than usual, so I'm storing outside the refrigerator. To be extra careful, I'm putting it in large mylar bags with oxygen absorbers. As I use up the grain in my chest freezer, I'll open these, put break them down into smaller packages, and will put them in the freezer. BTW, I love how your kitty photo bombed you in the kitchen and on the sofa behind you by your freezer...so adorable!!!
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough If by thorough you mean likely overkill, then yes, LOL! I once had an infestation of flour mites from a bag of rice (from Costco), and it has scarred me! It was horrible and not something I ever want to experience again. Who knew that tiny insects could creep you out more than large ones? I think I have seen or heard your kitty briefly in other videos. Kitties are wonderful
Oh gosh yes I understand completely. Bugs in your pantry is a once only event for most people I think!! It's a horrid experience. When I had my outbreak of weevils they got into some old rye grain, and some of the grains looked ok from the outside but had larvae inside them - eeeww!!! Yuk. Never again. Glad you enjoyed seeing my cat Kevin. He's getting old too, though we're not sure how old - he was a rescued street cat many years ago! We think he's about 10 :)
I really like your channel. You provide straightforward, good practical advice. When I started getting interested in sourdough (I've been baking bread for years) I got the impression that a lot of the advice, especially about discarding starter, seemed unnecessary and off-putting to newcomers new to bread baking. I use methods similar to yours and it was nice too find some support for a simpler approach.
That's so wonderful to hear, thank you. I really appreciate your feedback. I agree, I felt the same about it all when I started seeing all the other, highly technical and over complicated methods! Glad you're enjoying the channel.
Hi dear I'm from a very hot country in the summer and although every house and places and cars are air-conditioned and freezers and fridges we suffer some time from insects in our home grains and powederd spices and since long time we found that putting little bit of salt in their containers would stop any insect from cowling in and they stay insect free I hope this information will help you since your weather is similar to ours and by the way I love your chanel very much since I'm a sourdough fanatic 🥰🥰🥰
That's a great tip, but unfortunately weevil eggs are already on the grain, they don't come from outside! They just hatch from the grain itself under the right conditions.
Thanks, Elly. I enjoyed this. I have always stored my flour in my freezer because of my tiny pantry. At some point there was more room in my freezer and it just became habit.
That was a good habit to fall into then! The nutrition of the flour will be retained a lot better under cold storage. Nice one :) (and thanks for commenting, hope you're well x)
Elly, many thanks for sharing the freezer tip to inhibit pest in whole grains and rancid flour in already milled purchases. I'm jumping on the einkorn bandwagon as my granddaughter has a gluten sensitivity and has no issues with einkorn baked goods. I was curious if you have you baked with this grain, and if so, do you have any tips, tricks and recipes?
I also store my whole grains in the freezer. I had never thought about condensation on the grains when they come out of the freezer. I have actually ground the grain straight out of the freezer because I forgot to take it out earlier.. I don't know if that's good or not, but it worked fine. Maybe it's not good for my Mockmill.
Mylar bag storage is a good system, but only if you are planning on keeping the items stored for 12 months or longer. It's not economical to use them for shorter periods of time, especially for us in Aus.
Hello Elly, I was inspired and bought the mock mill with your discount so thank you. Quick question I have bought bulk grain, I have put it in the freezer and now want to transfer to long term storage into buckets. What is the correct procedure to transfer from freezer to bucket, if you could help me with this would be great. Thank you
Thank you Beata, that's wonderful! The procedure for transferring is the same. If you have the grain in bags, let them come down to room temperature first before you open them and tip the grain into your buckets. If you want to take out only a portion of the grain at a time, do it quickly and put the lid on your buckets asap to avoid condensation on the grain. Good luck!
Great help! Thank you. Just getting started. My Mockmill is due to arrive in 2 days, large grain bags arrive next week. Sorry I didn’t know about you and get my milk through you.
Yes, definitely! I think this is even more important for flour, especially if it's whole grain. As soon as you buy it keep it in the fridge or freezer, and for flour I'd leave it there to maintain freshness.
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My Mock mill arrived yesterday, and I came back to your chanel to watch this video.
In India storing grains for centuries and bugs have always been a issue. I remeber in my child hoold it was a summer task with grandmother, and we as her little helpers ued to wash wheat - twice, and sun dry it. We would run up the terrece to churn the wheat so as it would dry properly. And it used to be fun running fingers thru the grain. Then we would store in large metal bins which were air tight. For preventing bugs, we would put neem leaves - green ones in layers. Later on some pills came in market and we started putting them instead - to discontinue them later as we came to know that they had heavy metals in them. This summer ritual came to end when granny could do it any more and we got busy with our schools. Parents were working so had less time for this, and also availabilty of packaged milled flour.
well now the process is back, I am all grown up, kids finished college and even though I am wrking, I want to get back to eating healthy and wise. Small steps at a time.
Love your chanel and your work, all the effort in teaching us all bread and soap making ( I still have to try my hands on soap making - bought all the ingridents but didnt start it )
Your latest video about taking it slow on social media - Can totally relate. Spending time with people who are present in reality is more important, as compared to typing to online people.
Wishing you the best in coming ventures and life. You are an awesome teacher.
Thanks so so much
Thank you so much for your wonderful comment. What a legacy you have with whole grain foods! I'm glad to be a part of your journey. Much love to India x
Thanks!
You're welcome! Thank you :)
Thanks!
Thank you Kyle! I appreciate your support very much.
Wonderful presentation! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. G’day…
Thanks so much! G'day to you too! :)
Great video Elly. Thanks for uploading, lots of useful info. Didn't realise can store all these items in the freezer. I have quite a few kg's worth of whole meal flour so best to store them in the freezer, had no idea you could. As you know I am much more room in my chest freezer now as I am doing ultra concentrated plant milks, will pop my flours in the freezer! And hello Kevin, so cute he wanted to hang out with mummy as she films! 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks George, yes it's a great technique to store any dry pantry goods that might spoil in the fridge or freezer. I love your milk concentrates idea - great to save that space for other important things! Love your work :)
Our climate in my part of Texas is very close to yours in the summer so I store carefully also. We are sitting on gold mines as the prices climb so we can't take any chances. Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome Melody, thanks for watching!
Elly. I have such great respect for you. YOUR video is the one that got me to keep trying when I was at my wits end trying to make sourdough bread, back before either of us were milling our grains at home. So much of the advice you give here is antithetical to what I have learned in the U.S., and I have never lived where you live so I am not going to say you are wrong, but you DID ask for correction if anyone had any and I love you too much not to share what I have learned both in my own experience here in Central Texas (very HOT in summers and HUMID year-round, and we do have plenty of bugs and moths, etc.).
First I want to say that whole wheat (hard white and hard red mostly) is something I have been purchasing for a couple years now in 25-lb. bags. I have food grade plastic buckets that "preppers" are known for using a lot here in the States for storing all manner of food items. I have no idea whether you can get them in Australia, but I have several 5-gallon buckets with resealable lids (which I seal with a heavy rubber mallet and open with a bucket opener -- tools that are absolutely necessary if you don't have those -- very expensive -- "gamma" lids). I do have ONE gamma lid on ONE bucket and it is handy but it took two of my housemates' adult nephews to put all their muscle and weight on it to install the rim is uses and I will NOT be getting another one of those (though you will find many in the U.S. swearing by them). I am happy with my original lids, heavy rubber mallet and bucket opener for the other buckets.
Anyhow, this is the thing: I have only been doing this a couple of years, but there was only ONE instance where any bugs showed up in a bucket (and ruined the contents) -- and it turns out that was the bucket where I had disingenuously thought, "Oh, there is extra room. Let me add a big ziplock bag of corn in this bucket"). I had NOT frozen the corn first. I am totally convinced that the (white winter wheat) that was also in that bucket was NOT the source of the bugs -- but the CORN. Corn and rice are the only two grains I know for sure SHOULD be frozen to kill bugs and/or their eggs before storing. That experience of losing at least 10-15 lbs. of wheat plus the corn in that bucket got me to doing a LOT of research. Didn't want that to ever happen again! I am certain it was the corn that was the culprit and not the wheat.
There are several videos put out by a woman who has been milling her own grain for 11 years now regarding storing grain and her experience. The oldest of the three videos was made 2 years ago, so was after 9 YEARS storing buckets of wheat (and some other grains) where she lives in FLORIDA -- which I have visited several times, and can vouch that it is every bit as humid (if not more so) as Central Texas and HOT.. She has been storing her wheatberries in a shed that has NO insulation or temperature control and has not had any trouble at all keeping her wheat stored in sealed buckets (and jars) in the very humid and hot place she lives. She does not add oxygen absorbers or use mylar bags or anything. She just makes sure her buckets and jars are well sealed each time she uses them. Nine years experience talks to me and I was SO relieved to learn that she NEVER froze her wheatberries. She just put them straight into the buckets -- or left them in the buckets in which she bought the grains. She has a big family, so she stores a lot.
I WAS going to move to Australia many years ago (though as it turned out I did not and in fact have never been there), but at that time I got a LOT of coaching about the bugs, spiders and whatnot in Australia and I know that there is probably no place in the U.S. to compete -- but still I wonder: can it be true that weevils' eggs come with the wheat that is grown in Australia? All I can tell you is that they do not here in the U.S., where the wheat is grown in many different climates across the country. Enough of the "book" I have written here. I wanted to give you links to Felicia's videos regarding her experience in storing grains:
th-cam.com/video/cKWXYSNoQ_Y/w-d-xo.html -- How to Store Whole Grains, Beans, Corn, Rice (video she made after 9 years experience storing grains in Florida)
th-cam.com/video/ye6RmyW4a4I/w-d-xo.html -- Three Biggest Grain Storage MYTHS BUSTED - How to Store Grains (a video she made after 10 years' experience storing grains in Florida)
th-cam.com/video/MKAB14gZYYc/w-d-xo.html -- How to Store Whole Grains - Do You Need Mylar Bags and Oxygen Absorbers? (another video she made after 10 years' experience)
I'll be honest -- I do not like the feeling of "correcting" my wonderful teacher that has helped me so much, but I do so in the hopes that learning from Felicia (of the TH-cam channel Grains and Grit) will give you as much of a feeling of relief as it did for me. It was due to one of those videos that I realized that the CORN had been the culprit in my one experience with bugs in the bucket!
Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes, I know Felicia! From all the research I've done, the weevils definitely come in on the grain. They are grain weevils, they need the grain to reproduce and hatch out of. I've only had them once, and never since freezing! I think Felicia has been extremely lucky! Or her grain is very strongly treated with pesticides? I always use organic. Depends very much on the behaviour of the producers and distributers also. Thanks for your kind words :)
I forgot to add, yes the corn could easily do it too! I think there are types of weevils that enjoy corn. I've never had grain corn here, it's not something that's widely available, so definitely the wheat/rye berries were the issue at my place.
This is such good information! I never thought about bugs, but now I am going to obsess about it! I'm almost finished with a 25 lb bag and just reordered some grain so I will use the idea of portioning it into smaller bags to freeze it for a week or so. Thank you so much! I have missed your videos.
You're welcome Lori! I've been posting a bit more regularly lately and will continue through the year, all going well. Nice to see you here! Glad this was helpful to you. I think people are lucky in some climates bugs don't hatch easily, but freezer processing the grain is a good idea as a safe guard I think. It seems to work very well! Have fun caring for your grain :)
I have been freezing my grains for 7 days when I purchase them. It's such a habit that I don't think about it. Doing so has helped to keep my pantry pest free. I also wipe down the counters and other storage areas at least once a month with a 1/4 cup of white vinegar to 8 ounces or so of water that I mix in a spray bottle.
Great practice you have there Inez. Thanks for sharing :)
In Canada we have cold room it’s down in the basement so I store my flour there in counters in winter time it’s very cold you freeze if you stay in there for 30 minutes so maybe it’s fine to store it there. Have a great day Elly thanks 🙏 for all the great videos I learned a lot .
Ah that's brilliant Antionette, I'd love to have a cold place like that to store my grain. Sounds like an ideal set up for lots of produce items. You wouldn't need a back up fridge or freezer like we have!
"I do not know any thing about bread making...very interested...will do and I've decided to study thru you...you are a very smart girl...very grateful to meet you...will share your name with others, just subscribed, love del"
i put my 25lb bag of flour into the freezer for four days, now i will put into food save 5 gallon bucket with the screw on lid, air tight
This was very interesting! I have my Mockmill and grain on order, so I need to think about storage. Our freezer capacity is always at a premium as we make big batches of things to eat over time. I reckon I will treat my grains in the freezer for several days and then store them in five gallon buckets in the basement. I think all that Mylar bag stuff is for preppers who want to store food for decades in case of some sort of calamity.
Thanks so much! I'm about to buy a mock mill and home milling is new to me. THANKS SO MUCH!!
That's wonderful, you're welcome!
I just bought my first while wheat berries for milling & they will now go straight into the freezer for 3 days - ibwobder if my household freezer goes that low!
Lovely to hear an Australian accent - your tios are great
Oh thanks! Yes, if your freezer is functioning correctly it should be cold enough!
Hey Elly. I enjoyed watching...needed my Elly fix so came on to see what you'd recorded. This was really informative, thanks. I love how organised you are...comes from years of doing it. We have such a small freezer, want to get myself more organised with storage and freezing. The 'getting up off the floor' bit made me laugh out loud. Thank you for leaving it in! And hello Kevin :-)
Hi Alison, thank you! I always get such a nice surprise to see your comments :) This was fun to make.
Thank you so much for sharing this info- so helpful and inspiring!
Thank you Laurie, I appreciate that very much!
My same response with your little "AaH", trying to rise from squatting lol! I like the freezer storage. Will follow your system when I start buying in bulk and grinding. Bay leaves work for me in short term storage.Have never had issues with weevils, except once in pasta. But like you, once is enough.
Indeed! I never want to see those critters in my pantry again :)
Thanks so much for the info, Elly! I did not really realize the need for this until my daughter, who was moving to Hawaii, left some of her organic bread flour in my pantry. After several months, I went to use it & it was filled with bugs!! Yuck! I didn't really think about the wheat berries that I have - they are stored in food grade buckets that are supposedly air tight so hopefully, are OK. But things are definitely going in the freezer first thing from now on! Looks like you have a good system going on! Thanks so much!
Thanks Maggie! Yes, even in buckets the weevils can hatch. I'd definitely go for the freezer treatment!
Hi there! I freeze my grains as well but for 2 weeks (some online instruction from somewhere said to do so) ... then I keep them, opened, at room temp for 1 day to dry. Next, I place the bulk of my grains in gallon size mylar bags with oxygen absorbers for my longer term storage. I keep what I need at hand in sealed glass jars, Tupperware, etc, similar to you. I only encountered bugs once before I knew that freezing killed them & their eggs. Thanks. 🙂
That's brilliant Laura! I think everyone has their own variation on the process. That's interesting you keep them in the open air to dry them from the freezer - mine would be soaked if I did that!
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough It's much dryer where we live. By the way, really like your spelt sourdough bread. Thanks. 😊
Love the cat!
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Hi Elly . its great iformation,thank you for sharing😘
You're welcome, thanks :)
What a timely video! I turned on TH-cam to pass the time while I got my grain ready for storage, so I watched it while I worked. I too normally store grain in the freezer, but I break it down into smaller bags first (Food Saver, so vacuum packed). I'm stocking up more than usual, so I'm storing outside the refrigerator. To be extra careful, I'm putting it in large mylar bags with oxygen absorbers. As I use up the grain in my chest freezer, I'll open these, put break them down into smaller packages, and will put them in the freezer. BTW, I love how your kitty photo bombed you in the kitchen and on the sofa behind you by your freezer...so adorable!!!
Thanks Cheryl, your system sounds very thorough! I really do need to stock up soon. My kitty is such a sweetheart. He gets into a few of my videos :)
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough If by thorough you mean likely overkill, then yes, LOL! I once had an infestation of flour mites from a bag of rice (from Costco), and it has scarred me! It was horrible and not something I ever want to experience again. Who knew that tiny insects could creep you out more than large ones? I think I have seen or heard your kitty briefly in other videos. Kitties are wonderful
Oh gosh yes I understand completely. Bugs in your pantry is a once only event for most people I think!! It's a horrid experience. When I had my outbreak of weevils they got into some old rye grain, and some of the grains looked ok from the outside but had larvae inside them - eeeww!!! Yuk. Never again. Glad you enjoyed seeing my cat Kevin. He's getting old too, though we're not sure how old - he was a rescued street cat many years ago! We think he's about 10 :)
I really like your channel. You provide straightforward, good practical advice. When I started getting interested in sourdough (I've been baking bread for years) I got the impression that a lot of the advice, especially about discarding starter, seemed unnecessary and off-putting to newcomers new to bread baking. I use methods similar to yours and it was nice too find some support for a simpler approach.
That's so wonderful to hear, thank you. I really appreciate your feedback. I agree, I felt the same about it all when I started seeing all the other, highly technical and over complicated methods! Glad you're enjoying the channel.
Hi dear I'm from a very hot country in the summer and although every house and places and cars are air-conditioned and freezers and fridges we suffer some time from insects in our home grains and powederd spices and since long time we found that putting little bit of salt in their containers would stop any insect from cowling in and they stay insect free I hope this information will help you since your weather is similar to ours and by the way I love your chanel very much since I'm a sourdough fanatic 🥰🥰🥰
That's a great tip, but unfortunately weevil eggs are already on the grain, they don't come from outside! They just hatch from the grain itself under the right conditions.
I live in the UK many thanks for advice - I will still freeze my grains although my supplier said no need on the side of caution
It's a good idea if you get a hot summer like recent years, or if your storage area is warm.
Thanks, Elly. I enjoyed this. I have always stored my flour in my freezer because of my tiny pantry. At some point there was more room in my freezer and it just became habit.
That was a good habit to fall into then! The nutrition of the flour will be retained a lot better under cold storage. Nice one :)
(and thanks for commenting, hope you're well x)
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough I'm doing ok. Hope you are good too?
That's good. Yeah pretty good here :)
Elly, many thanks for sharing the freezer tip to inhibit pest in whole grains and rancid flour in already milled purchases. I'm jumping on the einkorn bandwagon as my granddaughter has a gluten sensitivity and has no issues with einkorn baked goods. I was curious if you have you baked with this grain, and if so, do you have any tips, tricks and recipes?
Thanks, glad you found this helpful. Unfortunately I've never baked with, or eaten, einkorn bread. Nobody grows it here unfortunately.
I also store my whole grains in the freezer. I had never thought about condensation on the grains when they come out of the freezer. I have actually ground the grain straight out of the freezer because I forgot to take it out earlier.. I don't know if that's good or not, but it worked fine. Maybe it's not good for my Mockmill.
It's probably ok, but depends a lot on your environment I think. In hot, humid weather it could be a problem. You want nice dry grains for milling.
I’m sure it’s a one-time thing Elly :) You are not anywhere near being old. You look like Nicole Kidman’s younger sister! Many thanks for the video ♥️
Thank you Hande :) Yes, you're right, I was just sitting on my knees like that for way too long! I'm fairly fit for my age, thankfully.
Mylar bag storage is a good system, but only if you are planning on keeping the items stored for 12 months or longer. It's not economical to use them for shorter periods of time, especially for us in Aus.
I see, thanks for sharing that.
Doesn’t the grain in the freezer just in those white bags gain moisture? How does it not?
It doesn't inside the freezer, only if you take it out and let condensation form on the grain in the warmer air temperature.
Hello Elly, I was inspired and bought the mock mill with your discount so thank you. Quick question I have bought bulk grain, I have put it in the freezer and now want to transfer to long term storage into buckets. What is the correct procedure to transfer from freezer to bucket, if you could help me with this would be great. Thank you
Thank you Beata, that's wonderful! The procedure for transferring is the same. If you have the grain in bags, let them come down to room temperature first before you open them and tip the grain into your buckets. If you want to take out only a portion of the grain at a time, do it quickly and put the lid on your buckets asap to avoid condensation on the grain. Good luck!
Great help! Thank you. Just getting started. My Mockmill is due to arrive in 2 days, large grain bags arrive next week. Sorry I didn’t know about you and get my milk through you.
Hi Elly, do you recommend a similar process for store bought flour?
Yes, definitely! I think this is even more important for flour, especially if it's whole grain. As soon as you buy it keep it in the fridge or freezer, and for flour I'd leave it there to maintain freshness.
Hi Elly
How are you doing🌹🌹?
I'm great thanks John :)
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough You are welcome Elly🌸.Are you here in the States?
No, I'm in Brisbane, Australia. Though I'd love to visit the USA sometime.
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough That’s nice Elly Australia is a nice country I have been to Brisbane Australia. I’m at Buckhead Atlanta Georgia 🇺🇸
@@ellyswholegrainsourdough Hello Elly. Good Morning from over here. Hope you're having a wonderful day. How's the Covid Situation over there? Hope you and your family are safe. 🌺🍀🌸🌻