His death was just sloppy and goes against his character. He would have known they coming! He would have fought! But I guess they did what they could, since Kevin’s exit.
There’s always a sort of mutual respect between 2 men after a good fight or two. Just like in sports. You play your hardest and end with a draw, the respect was earned!
The reason Kasey wasn’t harder on Jamie is because he’s a real man! He understands that beating up a coward would only make him feel like a bully! That’s the whole reason why Jamie acts the way he does! He’s been bullied his whole life. They made Jamie the person he is this day!
Our family has a ranch, our grandfather bought it parcel by parcel 124 years ago, 5 generations and only a handful of 3rd gens care about it, a guy asked me if I saw Yellostone, I said yes, and I live it when I'm up here, and we have a Jamie in our family too, I like the show but understandbit all too well!
It's likely possible for the Broken Rock Tribe to help them keep it in some form. In the first season Kayce mentions the he was given a Native American name at some point by the Broken Rock tribe. This means at some point either when he married monica or when Tate was born he was made a honorary member of the tribe (as the husband and a father of members of the Tribe) . In addition as Kayce owns the controlling stake in the Ranch, his first born son(thus the current Heir to the ranch) is Tate who is a full member of the Broken Rock tribe. The prophecy from 1883 was the Broken Rock tribe of the Crow nation would regain the land from the Duttons in 7 generations. Tate is the 7th generation of after James Dutton and Tate is both a Dutton and a member of the Broken Rock tribe. Rainwater even points this out to Mo Brings Plenty in season 2. That in two generations. The Ranch will be owned by Tate , this is why Rainwater is never as overly antagonistic to John the way Dan Jenkins, the Beck brothers or Roarke Morris are. And why Rainwater cultivates a good relationship with Kaycee and Monica despite his issues with Kayce's father. To the point of Rainwater and Mo.helping the duttons when Tate is kidnapped by the Beck brothers.
@@Aaron-io8vw Exactly!! I think this is the perfect solution and makes the most sense. I forgot all about the 7 generations thing, so thanks for bringing that back up!
Jaime is the textbook definition of treat someone like a anti villain long enough and they become a villian? The man has been trying to make logical decisions for this family which isn't even his, yet he is made a villain by John and Beth. I am glad he is fighting back after years of emotional, psychological and physical abuse he had to endure. John and Beth are the reason Jamie is the way he is. It always bothered me how people make Jamie out to be the bad guy without looking at the context. He's no angel, but compared to the rest of the family, he's a saint. He isn't at all selfish, hence him saying he doesn't want the ranch for himself. Rather, for his nephew and son. It all starts when he was 17. Back then, John asks Jamie what he wants to be when he grows up. Jamie said with a big smile on his face, "You, Dad. I wanna be just like you and do your job." But then, John said "Well, son, I want you to go to school to be a lawyer." Jamie's smile immediately disappeared and he was clearly shocked and disappointed (even asking some questions on the why). He was shocked because he knows John hates lawyers, but John's only response was "Be one I like." Because Jamie was so loyal, he did what he was told. As far as the Beth abortion issue, that scene clearly took place not long after his above-mentioned Lawyer thing with John, hence Jamie saying it was his last day on the ranch. Jamie, again, was only 17. Barely older than Beth. She wasn't asking him for lunch money or handling a bully. She asked him to help her gut a baby in secret. A teenaged girl has no business asking her teenaged brother to handle an adult-level situation like that. And secrecy is basically impossible when your family is ranching royalty. And if people paid attention to Jamie's facial expressions and body language, they would realize he was hesitant to have her go through with the procedure that would render her barren. But in his teenaged brain, combined with seeing how scared and desperate she was, this was the only way. He didn't do it out of spite. He did it out of love. 20 years later, Jamie has faithfully served John and the ranch and yet you can see in the first episode, before Beth even came home, that John seemed to treat him indifferently and refused to listen to his sound advice. Jamie told his Dad that the ranch needed money and that his old -school wild west approach to protecting cattle and preserving the land was a bad idea, but he didn't listen because of his stubbornness and recklessness. And because he didn't listen to him, the mission went sideways and Lee was killed. Jamie also warned John about Beth, how she would end up tearing the family apart and that the longer she stayed on the ranch, the worse she'll be. We see he was right about that too. Since then, John has yelled at, cursed at, threatened, disrupted, and even hit Jamie despite his years of loyalty and service. To think, all Jamie wanted was to be a cowboy and rancher like his Dad. He never wanted to or asked to be a lawyer or politician. His Dad looks down on him for being the very thing he forced him to be, when he didn't even want to be the thing in the first place. Jamie was always the most loyal of the four Dutton kids in the sense of being what his Dad told him to be and do. Lee didn't want to mingle with people to build relations with the ranch, Beth moved to SLC to be a financier (and has made it clear on many occasions that she doesn't care about the ranch), and Kayce relocated to the reservation with his wife and son to train horses. Jamie, however, sacrificed his dreams to be a good son and all he got in return was contempt, mistreatment, and belittlement. I, for one, am glad he has turned on his toxic family and really hopes he brings them down, especially Beth. That triumphant tirade against her when she broke into his house was just the tip of the iceberg I suspect... His family is not the world's standards. That's the whole point. The Dutton's aren't inherently wrong, but neither is Jamie. That's the problem. This show tries to frame it as the Dutton's are flawed, but are still in the right. They aren't. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." [In this case, it's a ranch.] His father drilled it into him to save the ranch at all cost... never really treated him as his son, and his daughter constantly bullied him, threatened him, and said she would take his child from him. He did everything for the family, apologized for a youthful mistake, and when his father did everything to lose the ranch he demanded jamie protect, he went against his father to do so. The abortion itself wasn't the problem she had. It was him getting her a hysterectomy without telling her until it was too late.
@@Okkara-q3b Wow. These are all fantastic points you bring up and probably the most thoughtful comment I have ever received. Thank you so much for taking the time and breaking this down to show the other side of Jamie's story so clearly! 👏
We don't know how Beth would have turned out. Having her female organs removed at a very young age changed her mentally and hormonaly. Jamie did that. The nurse told him over n over are u sure. He said yes. Beth's trust in jamie was burned after that. He never said srry. Just keep saying he was young too. Jamie made the Monster Beth. Which in turn made himself into treasonous monster with no home
He gets treated like 💩 because he’s always looking out for himself at every turn. He was a snake at a young age taking Beth’s ability to have a child without even telling her. Jamie has always been a weasel.
2:10 Yeah, "for some reason" we should remember the oxy shot to the foot...the reason being, it is the exact same murder/suicide plot as the movie Michael Clayton.
Seals aren’t trained to shoot that many rounds to an individual this would be considered an overly aggressive they are trained to use precise, controlled fire, aiming for the most vital areas of a target depending on the situation, which could include the chest but also other areas depending on the threat
@@gajacome1check the episode where Kacey killed his brother in law. He got shot in the exact same way: 1 in the head, 5 to the heart in a star shaped pattern. 1 for 1 the exact same bullet wounds
😢Sara uno strazio lasciare questa serie quando finirà.😢 Scheridan e cast insuperabili. Non ho avuto ancora modo di vedere la fine della 5 stagione ma l'idea del suicidio non mi piace affatto. Non è coerente con la figura di John Datton e poi è un messaggio orrendo. ORRENDO. 😢😢😢😢
I don’t hate Jamie. I do wish he had a backbone. To me, Beth is cancer. She’s full of hate and a master manipulator. Kelly Reilly deserves an academy award, she really is amazing! Yellowstone wouldn’t have been this good if someone else had been cast to play Beth. Just my thoughts and musings. 🤠
@@Cowboybebop80 Yeah they've just made him increasingly stupid and I'm just wondering if the actor pissed off the writers or something lol smh. The other Duttons are largely overrated, Rip and Beth, in particular and they get WAY too much plot armor and I hate how pretty much everyone they interact with is in shock just because they use bunch of foul language and how the writers make them look incredibly smart by comparison.
Hang on... a state governor, sleeping in the state mansion has no security detail?
@@Storming32 just one rent a cop...
His death was just sloppy and goes against his character. He would have known they coming! He would have fought! But I guess they did what they could, since Kevin’s exit.
Yea, it's a movie lol..
Lol right?
Hey man governors come and go whoever slithers into office that's just how it is 😮😊😅
I think KC is allowing Jamie to tie his own noose!! 🤞🏻 🙏🏼
@@annettematisz46 smart!
Truth!
I think that rip and Casey will become friends like brothers
@@pennyadkins4932 i think so too!
They are brothers in law's
There’s always a sort of mutual respect between 2 men after a good fight or two. Just like in sports. You play your hardest and end with a draw, the respect was earned!
@@pennyadkins4932 i agree penny 100 percent
This was by far the BEST recap of what has happened to the Dutton patriarch and that so called son, THANK YOU💖
The only way to save the land is for Casey's son to inherent.
The reason Kasey wasn’t harder on Jamie is because he’s a real man! He understands that beating up a coward would only make him feel like a bully! That’s the whole reason why Jamie acts the way he does! He’s been bullied his whole life. They made Jamie the person he is this day!
Our family has a ranch, our grandfather bought it parcel by parcel 124 years ago, 5 generations and only a handful of 3rd gens care about it, a guy asked me if I saw Yellostone, I said yes, and I live it when I'm up here, and we have a Jamie in our family too, I like the show but understandbit all too well!
Now this is starting to heat up very nicely 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I agree but sadly the series is burning out fast with only a few episodes left.😢
It's likely possible for the Broken Rock Tribe to help them keep it in some form.
In the first season Kayce mentions the he was given a Native American name at some point by the Broken Rock tribe. This means at some point either when he married monica or when Tate was born he was made a honorary member of the tribe (as the husband and a father of members of the Tribe) .
In addition as Kayce owns the controlling stake in the Ranch, his first born son(thus the current Heir to the ranch) is Tate who is a full member of the Broken Rock tribe.
The prophecy from 1883 was the Broken Rock tribe of the Crow nation would regain the land from the Duttons in 7 generations. Tate is the 7th generation of after James Dutton and Tate is both a Dutton and a member of the Broken Rock tribe.
Rainwater even points this out to Mo Brings Plenty in season 2. That in two generations. The Ranch will be owned by Tate , this is why Rainwater is never as overly antagonistic to John the way Dan Jenkins, the Beck brothers or Roarke Morris are. And why Rainwater cultivates a good relationship with Kaycee and Monica despite his issues with Kayce's father. To the point of Rainwater and Mo.helping the duttons when Tate is kidnapped by the Beck brothers.
@@Aaron-io8vw Exactly!! I think this is the perfect solution and makes the most sense. I forgot all about the 7 generations thing, so thanks for bringing that back up!
The only question is: Who is conducting the express to the train station for Jaime?
@@fooman2108 😂😂 heck, I volunteer!
It had to be Rip, that was a forgone conclusion
Blond driver looked kinda like Elsa Dutton (1883) I mean, why not???? Dawn Olivieri played Sarah Atwood here and SHE was also in 1883.
There’s a lot of characters in both Yellowstone and 1883.
Poor Sarah always getting shot in the head. Nice ass though.
Didn’t the fight between Sarah and Jamie take place at his house?
Jamie has got to go
@christineolsen4592 yes!!
Facts
Agreed 💯
Honestly I'm sick of him
Oh he definitely getting a little ride to that train station for sure
Jayce and Moe will have something special for Jamie
'Sarah' is currently on Lioness...
Jaime is the textbook definition of treat someone like a anti villain long enough and they become a villian?
The man has been trying to make logical decisions for this family which isn't even his, yet he is made a villain by John and Beth. I am glad he is fighting back after years of emotional, psychological and physical abuse he had to endure.
John and Beth are the reason Jamie is the way he is. It always bothered me how people make Jamie out to be the bad guy without looking at the context. He's no angel, but compared to the rest of the family, he's a saint. He isn't at all selfish, hence him saying he doesn't want the ranch for himself. Rather, for his nephew and son. It all starts when he was 17.
Back then, John asks Jamie what he wants to be when he grows up. Jamie said with a big smile on his face, "You, Dad. I wanna be just like you and do your job." But then, John said "Well, son, I want you to go to school to be a lawyer." Jamie's smile immediately disappeared and he was clearly shocked and disappointed (even asking some questions on the why). He was shocked because he knows John hates lawyers, but John's only response was "Be one I like." Because Jamie was so loyal, he did what he was told.
As far as the Beth abortion issue, that scene clearly took place not long after his above-mentioned Lawyer thing with John, hence Jamie saying it was his last day on the ranch. Jamie, again, was only 17. Barely older than Beth. She wasn't asking him for lunch money or handling a bully. She asked him to help her gut a baby in secret. A teenaged girl has no business asking her teenaged brother to handle an adult-level situation like that. And secrecy is basically impossible when your family is ranching royalty. And if people paid attention to Jamie's facial expressions and body language, they would realize he was hesitant to have her go through with the procedure that would render her barren. But in his teenaged brain, combined with seeing how scared and desperate she was, this was the only way. He didn't do it out of spite. He did it out of love.
20 years later, Jamie has faithfully served John and the ranch and yet you can see in the first episode, before Beth even came home, that John seemed to treat him indifferently and refused to listen to his sound advice. Jamie told his Dad that the ranch needed money and that his old -school wild west approach to protecting cattle and preserving the land was a bad idea, but he didn't listen because of his stubbornness and recklessness. And because he didn't listen to him, the mission went sideways and Lee was killed. Jamie also warned John about Beth, how she would end up tearing the family apart and that the longer she stayed on the ranch, the worse she'll be. We see he was right about that too. Since then, John has yelled at, cursed at, threatened, disrupted, and even hit Jamie despite his years of loyalty and service.
To think, all Jamie wanted was to be a cowboy and rancher like his Dad. He never wanted to or asked to be a lawyer or politician. His Dad looks down on him for being the very thing he forced him to be, when he didn't even want to be the thing in the first place. Jamie was always the most loyal of the four Dutton kids in the sense of being what his Dad told him to be and do. Lee didn't want to mingle with people to build relations with the ranch, Beth moved to SLC to be a financier (and has made it clear on many occasions that she doesn't care about the ranch), and Kayce relocated to the reservation with his wife and son to train horses. Jamie, however, sacrificed his dreams to be a good son and all he got in return was contempt, mistreatment, and belittlement.
I, for one, am glad he has turned on his toxic family and really hopes he brings them down, especially Beth. That triumphant tirade against her when she broke into his house was just the tip of the iceberg I suspect...
His family is not the world's standards. That's the whole point. The Dutton's aren't inherently wrong, but neither is Jamie. That's the problem. This show tries to frame it as the Dutton's are flawed, but are still in the right. They aren't.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." [In this case, it's a ranch.]
His father drilled it into him to save the ranch at all cost... never really treated him as his son, and his daughter constantly bullied him, threatened him, and said she would take his child from him. He did everything for the family, apologized for a youthful mistake, and when his father did everything to lose the ranch he demanded jamie protect, he went against his father to do so.
The abortion itself wasn't the problem she had. It was him getting her a hysterectomy without telling her until it was too late.
@@Okkara-q3b Wow. These are all fantastic points you bring up and probably the most thoughtful comment I have ever received. Thank you so much for taking the time and breaking this down to show the other side of Jamie's story so clearly! 👏
@@Okkara-q3b You make me want to do a whole episode on Jamie and his side of the story versus what the show makes us feel about him.
@@TheModernCowgirl happy to help
We don't know how Beth would have turned out. Having her female organs removed at a very young age changed her mentally and hormonaly. Jamie did that. The nurse told him over n over are u sure. He said yes. Beth's trust in jamie was burned after that. He never said srry. Just keep saying he was young too. Jamie made the Monster Beth. Which in turn made himself into treasonous monster with no home
So spot on. I've never understood how everyone keeps piling on Jamie like some kind of villain
I would like to propose to Madam Senator.. You can close your eyes and think of John...it will be worth it...😍😍
Those who hate Jaimie, are simple minded.
Please tell me they go after the guys who physically killed him
The advisory should be forewarned PRIOR to showing the scene....
A lot of us don't hate Jamie! He's been treated like 💩
@@Cowboybebop80 fair enough!
He gets treated like 💩 because he’s always looking out for himself at every turn. He was a snake at a young age taking Beth’s ability to have a child without even telling her. Jamie has always been a weasel.
You do know it's not real 😂😂
Jamie is basically a coward and expects everyone and anyone to help him.
No we don’t hate jaime
2:10 Yeah, "for some reason" we should remember the oxy shot to the foot...the reason being, it is the exact same murder/suicide plot as the movie Michael Clayton.
John didn't "pass away" he was assassinated.
Angle he is shooting at is most likely missing the heart and just hitting lung
Clara puts me in mind of Cassidy Hutchinson. Even looks like her.
Thanks for misrepresentation of the Shepherd's crook
Plot twist: maybe Jamie is being set up as killer of Sarah. That is why she was shot like a Seal was trained? 🤷♀️
@@cynthiacarter514 I never even thought of that! Do you mean Kayce set up as Sarah's killer?
Seals aren’t trained to shoot that many rounds to an individual this would be considered an overly aggressive they are trained to use precise, controlled fire, aiming for the most vital areas of a target depending on the situation, which could include the chest but also other areas depending on the threat
@@gajacome1 I agree that was too sloppy and unprofessional to be a seal killing.
@@gajacome1check the episode where Kacey killed his brother in law. He got shot in the exact same way: 1 in the head, 5 to the heart in a star shaped pattern.
1 for 1 the exact same bullet wounds
GGGGRRRR!!!! I hate this is ending!!!! 🩷
CSI Miami joins Yellowstone
😢Sara uno strazio lasciare questa serie quando finirà.😢 Scheridan e cast insuperabili. Non ho avuto ancora modo di vedere la fine della 5 stagione ma l'idea del suicidio non mi piace affatto. Non è coerente con la figura di John Datton e poi è un messaggio orrendo. ORRENDO. 😢😢😢😢
I don't hate jamie
All would have proved he was murder.
I don’t hate Jamie. I do wish he had a backbone. To me, Beth is cancer. She’s full of hate and a master manipulator. Kelly Reilly deserves an academy award, she really is amazing! Yellowstone wouldn’t have been this good if someone else had been cast to play Beth. Just my thoughts and musings. 🤠
@@NiaDja kelly really is an incredible actress!
@@TheModernCowgirl She really is! I can’t wait to see what she does next. Hopefully another series!
@NiaDja I'd watch for sure!
I feel bad for the way they've written Jamie as well
@@Cowboybebop80 Yeah they've just made him increasingly stupid and I'm just wondering if the actor pissed off the writers or something lol smh. The other Duttons are largely overrated, Rip and Beth, in particular and they get WAY too much plot armor and I hate how pretty much everyone they interact with is in shock just because they use bunch of foul language and how the writers make them look incredibly smart by comparison.
Could Kleara run for governor
@@virus56777 I'd love that!
This show is over now that John Dutton is gone
Not a regular viewer, so you don't want my like 😂😂😂😂😂
I hope Jamie wins it all.
@@joematava7945 unpopular opinion! But I love hearing it all the same :)
He’s been treated like 💩 since day one.