I got into Berlioz because I inherited as a boy a record of the story of Treasure Island from my older cousins and it used the Fantastic Symphony as its backing music. The sense of beauty and fear and dread in that symphony completely arrested me. I just felt I had to track down the whole symphony and hear it from beginning to end. Harold in Italy and the Requiem Mass were the pieces I heard next and I have also deeply enjoyed The Damnation of Faust and The Trojans and Romeo and Juliete and Te Deum. Berlioz is such a deeply special composer. His pieces give me new life. It was such a terrible shame he never saw and heard a full production of The Trojans before he died. Long live the spirit of Berlioz!
It's incomprehensible to me that there are still music lovers who don't fully appreciate or understand Berlioz. I was only around 14/15 when I first heard this work and was mesmerized by the extraordinary orchestration and melodies. A concert performance of Les Troyens around 5 years later convinced me that Berlioz was the ultimate musical genius and I've not changed this view since.
When you think that this work was written in 1834 (premiered only 10 years after Beethoven’s last symphony) it becomes obvious that Berlioz was the most extraordinary and visionary composer of all time. Overall, I think this is a great performance.
I had never seen a Viola Concerto though for a long time have been trying to see one. It so happens that Berlioz comes my way as much to say all is not lost!! Wonderful Concerto and enjoyed it. way
Anand, although the similarity with a Concerto is apparent, perhaps due to the work been originally appointed by Paganini, however, this work is regarded as a Symphony.
Wunderschöne und spannende Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit mildem Ton der genialen Solobratsche sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt vereinigten Tönen anderer Instrumente. Der intelligente Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit effektiv kontrollierter Dynamik. Wunderbar und atemberaubend zugleich!
A mais delicada interpretação desta magnífica obra já ouvida, e a sonoridade da viola (alto), é igualmente delicada, particularidade do intérprete. Na verdade toda essa maravilha está na combinação que tem início no autor, na orquestra de altíssima qualidade que sucedeu a Orquestra do Conservatório de Paris, o violista, o regente, e Roma como palco dessa criação magnífica, vista diferencialmente por Berlioz!
I’ve watched a performance of this piece by the Philippine Philharmonic Orchestra, The viola soloist appears on stage when it plays its solo and exit after the part, it was kindda amazing.
I've seen one where the viola player just rises from the orchestra, and then gets back to playing with his section again. That worked best for me, I think.
J'aime la direction de Emmanuel Krivine précise un peu rapide mais bien dynamique c'est excellent que trop lent , sinon ça risque de sombrer dans l'eau calme et boueuse... Emmanuel Krivine sait se risquer avec une oeuvre maitresse et redoutable , ce chef d'oeuvre intense de Berlioz, que Paganini avait des regrets de l'avoir refusé en tant qu'interprète de choix , que d'autres chefs dont je ne cite pas le nom évitent par faute d'excellence, hélas.
Lu dans les mémoires de Berlioz (je n'ai lu que le tome 1) . Paganini a refusé de la jouer car il y avait trop de pauses et pas assez de notes à jouer !
Ouvre refusée par Paganini lorsque Berlioz lui montra l'esquisse de l'ouvrage (Paganini souhaitait en fait un concerto pour alto). Mais lors d'un concert où l'œuvre fut exécutée Paganini était présent, celui ci fut tellement subjugué qu'il offrit un don de vingt milles francs à Berlioz ce qui lui permis d'être libéré des contraintes matérielles des se mettre à la composition de Roméo et Juliette, symphonie dédiée à Paganini
This is one of my favorites. Sweet but the viola sound is sad. Yes, this should be considered as a symphony, though it may look like a viola concerto at a glance.
although i prefer a heavier interpretation of the piece this is an excellent performance - of course french know how to play Berlioz Byron and Berlioz the greatest geniuses of their time
TEMPO PLEASE ! Où, quand dans la Marche des pèlerins, ces derniers progressent à petites foulées ! Where, when in the March of the pilgrims, these progress in small strides! Ils ne tiendront pas la distance sauf si spiritualité va de pair avec condition physique 😉 They will not go the distance unless spirituality goes hand in hand with physical condition 🤣
I haven't seen this physical set up of an orchestra before. Is it common?. (Cellos in front of and to the left of conductor, harp sort of mixed in with the orchestra, etc )
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It's the common shape for all symphonic orchestras ! From the left to the right, you have the first violins, violas, celli, and second violins. Behind the second, you have the doublebass 😄 On the other hand, I'm not sure of the harp's place... (Here I think the conductor prefers this order, maybe for his music and his movements maybe ?)
Berlioz a présenté seulement une ébauche du morceau à Paganini qui a refusé de la jouer car trop de pauses et pas assez de notes. Berlioz après a développé le morceau. C'est ce que j'ai lu dans le tome 1 des mémoires de Berlioz .
Why? Colin Davis was an outstanding conductor/champion of Berlioz but personally I think the performance here is the equal of the Davis/Imai recording and from a conducting perspective maybe even better.
Tabea Zimmermann / Colin Davis, London symphony orchestra ; Claude Ducrocq / Alain Lombard, Orchestre philharmonique de Strasbourg ; Lise Berthaud / Leonard Slatkin, Orchestre national de Lyon...
Un Berlioz un peu à court d'inspiration ce qui le conduit parfois ( souvent ?) à faire du "Berlioz" ! Comme certaines de ses Ouvertures (les moins jouées) cela sonne souvent creux et est peu habité ! Heureusement que viendra après cette oeuvre l'opera Benvenuto Cellini ! ( Quand il s'agit de Berlioz je suis p-être trop exigeant !) L'orchestre et le soliste sont excellenrs. Cette interprétation de Krivine est sans doute la meilleure possible !
Orchestre minable. Rien n’est en place. Merci au soliste qui, lui s’en sort admirablement bien. Pas sûr qu’il réitère l’expérience avec cet orchestre. Pauvre Hector..:
1. Harold aux montagnes (Adagio-Allegro) t=0:0
2. Marche des pèlerins (Allegretto) t=15:10
3. Sérénade d'un montagnard (Allegro assai-Allegretto) t=22:20
4. Orgie de brigands (Allegro frenetico-Adagio) t=28:55
I got into Berlioz because I inherited as a boy a record of the story of Treasure Island from my older cousins and it used the Fantastic Symphony as its backing music. The sense of beauty and fear and dread in that symphony completely arrested me. I just felt I had to track down the whole symphony and hear it from beginning to end. Harold in Italy and the Requiem Mass were the pieces I heard next and I have also deeply enjoyed The Damnation of Faust and The Trojans and Romeo and Juliete and Te Deum. Berlioz is such a deeply special composer. His pieces give me new life. It was such a terrible shame he never saw and heard a full production of The Trojans before he died. Long live the spirit of Berlioz!
i had this same record i think!! It was a Disney record for children with pirates on the cover!
It's incomprehensible to me that there are still music lovers who don't fully appreciate or understand Berlioz. I was only around 14/15 when I first heard this work and was mesmerized by the extraordinary orchestration and melodies. A concert performance of Les Troyens around 5 years later convinced me that Berlioz was the ultimate musical genius and I've not changed this view since.
Utltimate genius is Debussy but Berlioz is great ! Vive la France !
I was 17. Genius then. Genius now....@@stephane9261
@@stephane9261et Ravel !
Belle interprétation d'une oeuvre malheureusement pas assez connue. L'art musical de Berlioz est unique, moi j'adore !
cette pièce m'a toujours tiré des larmes tant sa beauté est totale.
En particulier la marche des pèlerins, qui est éminemment lacrymogène !
On devrait proposer cette symphonie aux CRS.... Voilà un lacrymogéne tolérable.......@@Carl2791
Le 2ème mouvement est aérien. On entend la fusion de l'alto naître et s'élever. C'est un frisson de plaisir.
MERCI !
Bravo Berlioz great music.
Wal
When you think that this work was written in 1834 (premiered only 10 years after Beethoven’s last symphony) it becomes obvious that Berlioz was the most extraordinary and visionary composer of all time. Overall, I think this is a great performance.
Nicolas Bône à l'alto.
Love the sound of the viola !
I had never seen a Viola Concerto though for a long time have been trying to see one. It so happens that Berlioz comes my way as much to say all is not lost!! Wonderful Concerto and enjoyed it. way
Anand, although the similarity with a Concerto is apparent, perhaps due to the work been originally appointed by Paganini, however, this work is regarded as a Symphony.
Wunderschöne und spannende Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit mildem Ton der genialen Solobratsche sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt vereinigten Tönen anderer Instrumente. Der intelligente Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit effektiv kontrollierter Dynamik. Wunderbar und atemberaubend zugleich!
Quelle inspiration !
A mais delicada interpretação desta magnífica obra já ouvida, e a sonoridade da viola (alto), é igualmente delicada, particularidade do intérprete. Na verdade toda essa maravilha está na combinação que tem início no autor, na orquestra de altíssima qualidade que sucedeu a Orquestra do Conservatório de Paris, o violista, o regente, e Roma como palco dessa criação magnífica, vista diferencialmente por Berlioz!
Sublime!
How modern the introduction sounds ! Reminds me of some Vaughan Williams or Shostakovitch...
I have always felt the real pleasure of listening to harold in italy is the orchestra..not the Viola
So glad that this was recorded. Loved every minute.
I’ve watched a performance of this piece by the Philippine Philharmonic Orchestra, The viola soloist appears on stage when it plays its solo and exit after the part, it was kindda amazing.
I've seen one where the viola player just rises from the orchestra, and then gets back to playing with his section again. That worked best for me, I think.
@@bomcabedalWow! I love to see that, soloist plays from the chair?
J'aime la direction de Emmanuel Krivine précise un peu rapide mais bien dynamique c'est excellent que trop lent , sinon ça risque de sombrer dans l'eau calme et boueuse... Emmanuel Krivine sait se risquer avec une oeuvre maitresse et redoutable , ce chef d'oeuvre intense de Berlioz, que Paganini avait des regrets de l'avoir refusé en tant qu'interprète de choix , que d'autres chefs dont je ne cite pas le nom évitent par faute d'excellence, hélas.
Lu dans les mémoires de Berlioz (je n'ai lu que le tome 1) . Paganini a refusé de la jouer car il y avait trop de pauses et pas assez de notes à jouer !
Ouvre refusée par Paganini lorsque Berlioz lui montra l'esquisse de l'ouvrage (Paganini souhaitait en fait un concerto pour alto). Mais lors d'un concert où l'œuvre fut exécutée Paganini était présent, celui ci fut tellement subjugué qu'il offrit un don de vingt milles francs à Berlioz ce qui lui permis d'être libéré des contraintes matérielles des se mettre à la composition de Roméo et Juliette, symphonie dédiée à Paganini
bravo madame au cor de basset
This is one of my favorites. Sweet but the viola sound is sad. Yes, this should be considered as a symphony, though it may look like a viola concerto at a glance.
Magnifique
magnifique interprétation .C'est un chef d'oeuvre de berlioz refusé par paganini mais qu'il finit par jouer car l'alto n'était pas son instrument
00:39 I
15:17 II
22:22 III
28:56 IV
although i prefer a heavier interpretation of the piece this is an excellent performance - of course french know how to play Berlioz
Byron and Berlioz the greatest geniuses of their time
TEMPO PLEASE !
Où, quand dans la Marche des pèlerins, ces derniers progressent à petites foulées !
Where, when in the March of the pilgrims, these progress in small strides!
Ils ne tiendront pas la distance sauf si spiritualité va de pair avec condition physique 😉
They will not go the distance unless spirituality goes hand in hand with physical condition 🤣
I haven't seen this physical set up of an orchestra before. Is it common?. (Cellos in front of and to the left of conductor, harp sort of mixed in with the orchestra, etc )
It's the common shape for all symphonic orchestras ! From the left to the right, you have the first violins, violas, celli, and second violins. Behind the second, you have the doublebass 😄 On the other hand, I'm not sure of the harp's place... (Here I think the conductor prefers this order, maybe for his music and his movements maybe ?)
Berlioz asks in the score that the harp be as close the viola solist as possible, which explains its odd placement here
@@williamferguson668 Thank you for that information, interesting.
I need this translated into English.
@Ubiquitary why you need manners for it to be translated?
Splendide ; Que cette oeuvre est belle pour l'alto malgré l'avis initial de Paganini !
Qu'il regrettera, en l'écoutant de ne pas l'avoir accepté du compositeur.....
Berlioz a présenté seulement une ébauche du morceau à Paganini qui a refusé de la jouer car trop de pauses et pas assez de notes. Berlioz après a développé le morceau. C'est ce que j'ai lu dans le tome 1 des mémoires de Berlioz .
Juste magnifique, cette Marche des Pèlerins.
La marche des pèlerins est prise trop rapidement pour moi, mais cela reste une très belle interprétation :)
Désert musical a Rome? it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Compositori_italiani_del_XIX_secolo
Pour Berlioz, qui était très très très difficile et méprisait l'école italienne.
Ses idoles étaient Weber et Glück.
I liked it, but the best performance is by Colin Davis and Nobuko Imai
Why? Colin Davis was an outstanding conductor/champion of Berlioz but personally I think the performance here is the equal of the Davis/Imai recording and from a conducting perspective maybe even better.
Hear the Rudolf Barchai version, with Oistrakh as conductor
Tabea Zimmermann / Colin Davis, London symphony orchestra ; Claude Ducrocq / Alain Lombard, Orchestre philharmonique de Strasbourg ; Lise Berthaud / Leonard Slatkin, Orchestre national de Lyon...
Un Berlioz un peu à court d'inspiration ce qui le conduit parfois ( souvent ?) à faire du "Berlioz" ! Comme certaines de ses Ouvertures (les moins jouées) cela sonne souvent creux et est peu habité !
Heureusement que viendra après cette oeuvre l'opera Benvenuto Cellini ! ( Quand il s'agit de Berlioz je suis p-être trop exigeant !)
L'orchestre et le soliste sont excellenrs. Cette interprétation de Krivine est sans doute la meilleure possible !
El mombre del solista es más importante que el del director, aqui ni se menciona.
No, the conductor is equally as important as the soloist but yes it is very strange that the latter is not mentioned.
Nicolas Bône est Alto Supersoliste de l'Orchestre National de France
Soliste : Nicolas Bône, alto. c'est écrit dans la description
My desire to be the first to thumbs down this, is restricted. I cannot help but enjoy this song.
Orchestre minable. Rien n’est en place. Merci au soliste qui, lui s’en sort admirablement bien. Pas sûr qu’il réitère l’expérience avec cet orchestre. Pauvre Hector..: