I have watched more than a couple of your moto’cicle reviews & have consistently come away with the opinion that this is a reviewer who offers a well thought out and comprehensive assessment of a particular product…and does so with high-style, class & panache…it’s obvious that you put great effort into your videos-MANY THANKS‼️ I own a variety of motorbikes, including a 2022 Triumph 900GT with extensive modifications-and LOVE IT❗️ And at 67 years of age, I can still mount my bikes without the assistance of a mini-trampoline😏 Look forward to viewing new content as you release it on TH-cam👍
Reviews on bikes can be so subjective. Today i had the opportunity to test ride both the Triumph Tiger 2024 Rally & the GT. Both are great bikes! Being 5" 7" tall I found the Rally just a tad challenging because of it's 860cm lowest seat height. Just on the balls of my feet. Especially when stopping on gravel roads with uneven terrain. Although i loved riding it. However, I found the GT Pro perfect for my height and an absolute gem to ride on tarmac and totally capable on gravel roads if you have no intentions of going further off road. I loved the 2024 GT Pro so much I bought one. Put a bash plate & lower engine guard on for my gravel travel. Will wear out the road tyres already on, then replace with 70/30's
I've had a Gt Pro for 3 years and would disagree with you on its ability for the occasional gravel / dirt road, grass field and firm sandy beach.. Set it in off road mode, a set of 70/30 tyres and away you go.. great fun... At 5ft 10 the geometry suits me very well and i love the electronic rear suspension ie put it in sport mode and it automatically stiffenes the dampness with the ability to fine tune.. semi active would describe it.. After 40+ years of messing about with "C" spanners this system suits me very nicely.. Love the versatility of this bike and thats why i have orderd the new one
Nice..had the previous version in rally pro …absolutely a brilliant bike ..had to sell it after 3 months and 3k miles as the vibes were killing me (hands) a bike I honestly was very upset to let go ..
Yes, they have improved the vibrations to a level that I would now be happy with. Not perfect, but acceptable. Better than my Transalp, for example. Thanks for your feedback :)
I did own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very well made, comfy and good bike on paper but, in my opinion, a very dull engine. Also it did have a weird vibration when riding at more than 100km/h. I ended up trading it just 6 months later for a Tracer 900. Anyway, I'm happy to hear they have addressed some of the initial, if not all, complaints people had with the first generation.
I agree that the first generation lacked sparkle, but this new one is better. The CP3 engine is in a different league, though. Thanks for your input, David :)
Iam planning to buy 900, not Knowing differences between GT and GT Pro, your video helped me a lot, thanks a lot for valuable information,I will buy 900 GT Pro.
Very interesting and brutally honest review. The transalp starts to look a really good proposition when compared to considerably more expensive bikes as although its suspension is basic, it does have good electronics (bar the throttle position thingy) and one can always upgrade suspension.
I've never been a fan of quickshifts but the one on the 900GT is just amazing it is hugely fun and put a silly grin on my face. I didn't notice any heat issues on an Australian summer day. Yeah the screen isn't great it would need to be changed.
@MaverickAus. Hey Mate. Where in Oz are you? In in Qld and seriously considering a GT Pro. Some have reported that the 2024 model pushes the heat away better so may wait until they are in stock up here.
Yes riding season is short. It is from may to the end of september. It ia not as cold as it sounds even tough it is 70 degrees north. But I am trying to convice my wife to get a cabin in Portugal. Riding there in winter looks wonderfull.
We have a couple of ‘difficult weeks’ around Christmas and the New Year, but other than that, we can ride pretty much all year round. When we stopped for lunch on the group ride you can see in this video, it was 25C😎
Just to add to what I mentioned in my last comments. For the trip home soon after buying my GT Pro I made a detour to a gravel road of about 15kms. Your thoughts about the GT's capabilities on gravel/dirt roads was less than positive. I just want to rectify some of your comments. I guess your height of 6' 2" had a lot to do with it. I'm 5' 7" and I found the bike, still with road tires, and in off road mode handled very well on the gravel road i traveled. The GT is totally capable of some spirited gravel riding! Once I wear out the road tyres it will be even better with a set of 70/30 tires. Of course the Rally Pro is more capable in tougher terrain. For those of us that find the Rally seat height a tad challenging, the GT Pro is more than capable of handling gravel roads! Although I wouldn't venture beyond that, whereas the Rally could!
Fair enough, thanks for your input. You can go off-road on any bike if you really want. I followed a friend up a steep rocky path a few weeks ago and he was on his BMW K1600 GTL, lol. I personally found the GT Pro less suited to off-road duties than I had been expecting, but you are doubtless far more competent off the asphalt than I am :)
I'm the same height as you. Are you running the regular seat? Any problems with wind coming off the screen? It's something (tall) reviewers always complain about on adventure bikes.
I have several thousand miles on a 2020 GT Pro, and now own a 2024 GT Pro. With the addition of bar risers I think the GT Pro is an excellent dirt/gravel road bike. I have put hundreds and hundreds of "off road" dirt riding on a GT Pro and I find it a joy. Really balanced, excellent throttle control, short turning radius, lowish seat height and decent suspension if not doing any kind of rocky terrain, and of course terrible in mud due to weight and tires. My friends riding KTM 690's and Taureg 660 are a bit surprised to see me easily keeping up with them. With that said, I am only 160 pounds, and an experienced off road rider. I don' hesitate to take my GT Pro with luggage on dirt roads as long as they are not actual 4WD roads. The stock tires are fine in dry conditions. Sand? I would not do deep sand but surface sand on hard pack is fine.
I have an 800 tiger and engine heat is not an issue providing temps are lower than 25C. Anything above that and engine heat is severe. Will not be testing the 900 until mid summer here in Aus.
RocketMan does a detailed and well thought out review, much better that many. Thank You! I have a 2024 900 GT Pro exactly like the one reviewed and agree with the assessment here. As I am just under 5 ft 10 and my off-road days were long ago you have convinced me that I brought the right one. The RallyPro would not be for me.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I’m very pleased with the Rally Pro, but it’s a big bike; even at 6’2, I prefer the seat on its lower setting. Ride safe👍😊
I have the 2022 1200 Explorer - fabulous bike! 20,000 miles in and the only complaint is the lack of choice of tyres - I agree with you with those Metzeler tyres! You get used to them but I do much prefer Dunlop rubber. I'm the same height as you, it fits perfectly. But it is not my perfect bike, that is my Rocket 3 TFC, but it is almost as good. Tried the 900, great bike but the 1200 Tiger beats all others in the adventure segment for me. I will be in Portugal/Spain/North Africa in late spring, will see how those Metzelers perform in the sand 😲
Nice "quick" test and very useful. In general I like the Triumph triple engines and appreciate the updated Tiger 900 for it's better look, upgraded engine, better dash. But if I were in the market for a road focused adventure bike I'd go for the Vstrom 800 (RE) and have some 5k€ left for after market accessories over the Tiger.
Very comprehensive. But expensive. And as they get so big the more unmanageable they become. I really believe small, manageable bikes you can take anywhere are the answer, for me at least. New 400 scrambler looks great. Rumours are Rally Raid might do some work on one. Perfect. Nice to have the choice. Ride safe 👍
Love your videos. Much more informative than most other videos that rattle off specs and platitudes. I am similar to you in size and I will likely get the 2024 RP (I already have a 2022 RP)...but I've also been considering GTP since most of my riding is on the road. Seeing as how there are no aftermarket suspension upgrade options for the GTP, do you think it's sufficient for larger riders?
Thanks, Charles. 99.9% of my miles are on road, but I do like having the option to wander down an intriguing looking gravel track for 10 minutes or so. To be fair, I could probably do it on the GTP, but I also prefer the RP’s looks. A friend of mine has a 24GTP and is very happy with it, but he admits that if he were taller (he’s 5’9), he would have preferred a RP. I didn’t particularly want electronic suspension and I can’t really ‘feel’ the 21-inch front end on the road, so have no regrets about choosing the RP, even though I don’t fully exploit its off-road abilities😊
Did you select "Off Road " mode on the gravel road? It winds the preload down on the rear shock. Makes the bike lower and more stable offroad. If doing a long distance off road you should back off the compression and rebound on the front shocks. I've done a quite a few gravel roads on my Tiger configured this way with full luggage.
I did try off-road mode, yes, and I agree it was less lairy than Sport. Have you put different tyres on? I found the Metzelers seemed to be the biggest handicap.
Great review. Thought the same when I had an old gen 900 Tiger, though i found the engine too whiney compared to an off beat twin, Transalp still top of my ly list, just waiting for your review of the cruise control. Please 🙏
Nice review but you missed something - at 14:15 into the video you said there is no room under the rear pillion seat, but in fact there is a compartment for a smart phone with a USB C charging port under the flap that you showed a photo of.
I wanted more off road. I loved the tracer was fantastic bike with zero issues. If Yamaha had a competitor to the tiger 900 rally pro I most likely would have stuck with Yamaha. I don't need all the HP of the tracer for off roading
Great that Triumph released new 900cc tiger range this year. Due to that all dealers nearby where I live are in a hurry to sell older generation bikes. Purchased a previous year Tiger 850 Sport. Yes, the 850 has its minuses, but for that price(and my use case) it beats all the competition. Could not justify the +4-6k eur for the GT PRO (again, for my usage) Main choose was between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Transalp was 1500 eur more, but did not offer many advantages. RocketMan. Thank you for the video. P.S eager to start my new riding season on the Tiger. Unfortunately there is about a 4 month wait till that will happen.
@@pedrosonic id bet my money on the honda in this case. 850 sport really has no upsides if its cost is bigger. In terms of looks they are both similar (and ugly. But thats subjective). But ride em both, se what suits you best.
@@aleksandrskusnirs6259 Thanks for your opinion. I'll use the bike mostly on road, that's why I tend to prefer the Tiger's 19-inch front wheel and its tubeless tires.
Great review for the new 2024, I think this may be the year I pull the trigger on a Tiger finally. How did Mrs. RM feel about the foot pegs? My fiancée loves how comfortable the seat was on our test ride for the 2023, but the pegs were vibrating her foot/leg asleep after 5 minutes.
Thank you for this lovely video. I'm unable to decide between the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and the new Africa Twin Adventure Sports in Manual. Hopefully you will test the 2024 Africa Twin and help me make up my mind!
I sold my Speed 1200 (and Honda Transalp) for the Tiger 900 RP and don’t regret it at all. I have yet to try the V2S, however, so can’t comment on that. I have read that they are less economical and give off more heat, though, which is no good in the Algarve during the summer months😊
Nice review. The gas tank has more information and warning stickers then I've seen so far. Perhaps an advantage if you go to Gibraltar and are bored during the ride - you can read the stickers for an hour or so. I'm sure I'd love the ride quality and acceleration (as I did on my F750GS), but 222 kg is unnecessarily too heavy for me. You could have tried how far you can jump with the Tiger off the cliff. Cheers.
I'm looking forward to your review on the Triumph 400. You wax lyrical, and rightly so, about the build quality on the 900 and your speed twin but at that price it's to be expected. But the obviously build down to a price with budget brakes and suspension of the 400 I'm wondering what you will make of it.
When on their stand i asked them who did the suspension and either they didn't know or weren't telling. The new Himalayan has Showa suspension but Triumphs certainly didn't look like that in the slightest.
I liked the comfort comparison to the Goldwing. I'm about to switch from a Goldwing to the 900 GT Pro because riding has gotten to be mostly long day rides and 2-up only 10% of the time. At 6'3", the Tiger fit very nicely and the misses liked the rear seat position. I was cross shopping to the Tracer GT+ (found it a bit cramped) and the new Africa Twin (vaporware in the US). Issue in the US is that the Tracer is a unicorn to find at Yamaha dealers and Honda has yet to announce the Africa Twin for the US market (they skipped on the 2023). I've had GS's before but can't see a $10k difference between the 2024 bikes and 105hp will do nicely. Any comparison on the GT Pro to the 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport?
Nice. I haven’t ridden the 2024 Africa Twin yet, but journos on the press launch last week (on the same roads you see in this video) have compared it to the GT Pro.
Hey man! Thanks for the review! I was looking at GT Pro, but still got the new TransAlp (finally). I love the TA, especially its engine. Though for some reason my consumption is above 5l/100km still. Is that because I am still under first 1000 kms? Hope to see you on the road!
Very good review, covering most of the upgrades I was wondering about. I am thinking of changing my 2021 gt pro for the new one. 3 years is a reasonable time to think about changing? I disagree about the brakes and vibration. I had the old 800, which, although smoother, gave out high pitched vibration, resulting in white finger. The 900 has lower frequency vibration, which doesn’t give me any problems. I also think the stylema brakes are very good. The nissins on the 800 weren't anything like as sensitive or powerful. They also used to bind onde the mud and rain worked their magic! Cheers.
I'm not saying the Stylemas are poor, it's just that I've tried the same disc and calliper setup on the Speed Triple with a better master cylinder and there's a huge improvement. I think if your 900 is 3 years old, then you deserve an upgrade ;)
@RocketMan_Moto Just to say I have now had my 2024 gt pro since March. I got a great trade in oon my 2021 model. Loving the new bike. The slight upgrades, like the dash and extra power, are just what was was needed.
Great honest review, nice to see one not done by the press! I have a 2018 Tiger 800, and after riding the 1200 Rally Pro last year, I'm completely sold on that t-plane crank engine, the growl is just something else. Looked at last year's 900, but don't like the angel-wing layout of the display, just looks naff to me. The hotel-marmalade-jar brake fluid reservoir looks cheap too, wondering if anyone makes a cast/milled aluminium version?
I was particularly interested in your comments regarding the metzeler Tourance tyres. I was considering these as a replacement on my Transalp when the the Karoo's wear out. I'm not so sure now. Were the metzelers the Next or Next2?
@@RocketMan_Moto I agree the Karoo's are very good even in greasy wet conditions. I don't go off-road very often and just thought a 90/10 tyre would be even better.
I get that. I had thought about putting some 100% road tyres on, as if I do go off road it’s only for a few hundred metres, but finding 21 road tyres isn’t easy
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, so if I’m going to have to upgrade the suspension on a Transalp for two up riding it certainly makes price difference much less significant.
Absolutely. Long cruises no problem at all, good for commuting and I suppose, yes, if you're only dipping your toe into off-roading, why not. You can take just about any bike off the beaten track from time to time. I was on a group ride a few days ago and a mate in front of me took his BMW K1600GT 2km up a gravelly hill :) Watch out for my video towards the end of the week about the Rally Pro version, though: it's much more viable off road and surprisingly good on it :)
I owned an F900XR when they first came out, but sold it after 5 months because I didn’t gel with it. The Tiger is much more comfortable and has a much pokier engine👍😊
Hi Rocketman, love your reviews! I suppose we are on geographical opposites as I am a Portuguese guy living in the UK. 😅 I currently own a Tiger Sport 660, and today, I went for an all day test drive with the GT Pro whilst mine was servicing. I must confess I did not love it. Here are some thoughts of things that in my humble personal opinion stood out between the 900 GT Pro vs my Tiger Sport 660. I do 70% of my riding in the city (London) and 30% motorway/a roads and b roads. Would love your feedback, if you have the time of course: on the plus side, comfier, plushier, easier to manoeuvre at city speeds (19 inch wheel), great brakes, feels like a could ride it all day. Down side: uglier than the 660 (personal opinion), would love a spoke wheels option and all those stickers in the paint, some of them lacquered like the 900, just don’t agree with me, engine sounds a bit like a tractor, felt a bit of disconnect/directness in throttle response, disappointed with the torque (though it would have a bit more response), the vibes through the pegs are just awful at city speeds of 20/30mph (around 3000 rpm). Still feeling the tingling on n my feet. There are other few niggles that are more personal taste than anything but all in all, very disappointed with a bike that would cost my current motorbike (which is 2 years old and valued at about 6k) plus another 9k to buy. I personally wouldn’t go for the Rally (which I love the design) or the 1200. Both too big for the amount of city riding I do. Thanks for reading! Kind Regards, Antonio
I realy appreciate your unbias and honest reviews. I was looking at this bike but have my doubts. Was also looking at the African Twin ADV Sports manual 2024, but it's not worth the money. The Yami 900 Tracer 900 GT Plus is not a true touring bike, so I am still looking. The Tiger 900 GT Pro and Rally Pro are exactly the same price in NZ.
Tiger (I bought the Rally Pro 2 months ago). The Tracer has a fabulous engine, but fit & finish is poor, it looks a bit odd and the windscreen is useless
Nice video, is a good bike for commuting honestly? daily use (comfortable) and weekend touring, of perhaps recreation purpose? this is better than ktm 890 for my purpose ? I only drive on public roads/highways... it is wise to jump from naked bike to this touring/Adventure for daily use. Any way great video Be safe
Thanks. If anything, a Tiger 900 is possibly too nice to commute on, but for touring & weekend rides, it’s pretty much perfect. And more comfortable than a KTM.
I am starting to like the TransAlp less and less nowadays. I still cannot unsee the protrusion on the underside. I find it unsettling and the lack of some convenience items notwithstanding, I don't find it a particularly good looking bike. Looks like you need to be on high alert navigating in the Algarve with cliffs to your right and pedestrians to your left. Cheers to you and Mrs. Rocket!
If I were shopping for a versatile yet sporty touring bike, this would be in the running. If I were set on exploring more dirt, I would sacrifice some long-range comfort for a smaller, lighter machine. Triumph wisely configured the GT.
Nice question😊 There were over 50 riders on this particular occasion. I’d say 50% British, 20% German, 20% Dutch and 10% ‘Other’ (French, Swiss, Belgian, Swedish…). I think there are a couple of Portuguese guys, but the club mainly attracts expatriates👍
Good review thanks. Such a shame that the Rallye Pro is Sidney Sweeney and the GT Pro is Oilve from on the buses. But I don't go offroad or want a 21" front wheel and knobblys. Cheers
I own a '21 - 100% correct regarding the 'mid-grade' master cylinder. Baffles me why Triumph would top-spec the calipers and then partially neuter them with a JJuan MC. I haven't had any issues with heat, including rides in 90+ degrees F. Mostly mitigated the handlebar vibes with BarkBuster bar-end weights. Aside from the extremely high maintenance costs (12K = $1,500 USD...) I really like the bike.
Thanks for a comprehensive review, I find the Tiger range interesting, good design, paint and reliability, however the choice of tyres on both the 900 and 1200 are so restrictive, why does Triumph stick with these odd sized tyres? Enjoy your channel, many thanks.
Road tested triumph tiger and was happy with the issues I had with the previous model dash and more power had been sorted tried Yamaha tracer 9gt love the engine just found the suspension to hard even in softest setting specially on our roads in UK. Ps I think I might see if I can get a 900gt pro and take it on a track day preferably with off road tyres that would be fun 😂 just like I'd take the gt off road 😂
Thanks for bringing up the heat from the radiators. Very few people I follow mention that or say they don’t see any issues. In Florida it was awful when I demo rode this bike but interested in it. Hope you can test it again in the summer. Cheers!
Out of interest, is the 'seat to peg' height taller on the Rally Pro than on the GT Pro? That is where you gain 'leg room' and not on the claimed seat height. I'm a strictly 'black top' rider so off road capabilities don't concern me. I'm currently on a BMW R1200RS and I'm finding the 'seat to peg' height increasing less comfortable as I get older. Enjoy your reviews as always.
Great review as always. After owning the previous model, still having the vibes is a dealbreaker for a touring bike. Remember, Triumph manufactured the vibes for off road purposes, but this is a road touring machine. Doesn’t make sense. Also, hard to compare with the Transalp with the price difference.
The vibrations have decreased significantly since the first generation, but yes, they're still there unfortunately. Better than the Transalp, however...
Good review and thanks as always. Nice bike but too expensive and too small for me, 1.90 mt.... I would never change this one over a Transalp. Maybe if I stay on the road all times.....but still if you're cramped with your legs, I cannot imagine myself on a ride like this. Cheers, V.
I sat on the Rally Pro this morning at Triumph Algarve and it's much taller. I could only just flat foot both feet, whereas on the Transalp I can do that easily.
It's worth giving the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ a try, as it is in the same price range as the Tiger 900 GT Pro, yet it offers the added benefits of active radar cruise control and an exceptionally spirited engine.
I know the 9GT well, although I haven't tested the +. Tbh, though, as much as I like the engine, it just doesn't have the off-road abilities that I'd like.
I'm holding out for a Yamaha Tenere that boasts a CP3 engine and 20 cm active suspension travel, coupled with 21-inch front wheels. Patience is a virtue, and I'm optimistic that it will pay off in the end (fingers crossed 🙂).@@RocketMan_Moto
@@RocketMan_MotoIn my humble opinion, wrong engine for a tenere, too rampant. Similarly the much much rumoured r9, again cp3 great engine but too flat (relatively) at top end for a sportsbike. Egg on my face potential in that comment, but hey ho.
Maybe the sweet spot between the Transalp and spending real money going to a 1300GS, but I would expect for the prize to have at least keyless and a blind spot detector. These " more known " brands really need to pay attention to what's coming from China makers. Same goes for the new Africa Twin.
@@PovilasPanavas , I really understand your thoughts, I was in the same position, a few months back I've tried a CFMoto and when changing lane I received a warning, after looking to my left there was a Vespa coming from nowhere and I didn't saw it on the mirror.
For me the Tiger has always been a fantastic road bike. I tried riding the older 800xc model off road. Even with off road biased tyres it just wasn't at home. I dont believe the chassis or engine (traditional triumph triple) suited off road riding. For me I wish Triumph would scrap the cross plane crank and just sell the Tiger as road focussed bike. Because the original triple made it different and for the better. I had no problem riding the "road version" Tiger 800 with its 19" front wheel on gravel roads. And to me that's all the bike needs to do. Adventure bikes have become a fashion statement. Basically if they don't look like they can take on Dakar, then they sort of get written off as a worthy contender. Yet so many riders only use them as road bikes with the occasional dirt road. The KTM 1190R I owned got used as intended. It saw gnarly enduro single track, fast flowing fire trails. But that bike was designed from the start to be an off-road bike. Whereas the Trumpy was designed to be a comfortable, easy to live with road bike. And to me, it's one of the best practical, long-distance touring bikes.
Well, the Scrambler 400X in green is more or less sold out in Europe for the foreseeable future. I would imagine that if the 2 existing 400s prove this popular in the long term, they will be offering different variations on the same chassis. I have no firm info yet, however.
Hi Rocketman the one imprvement i would of wanted is seemelss panniers instead of needing all the scaffolding and then because of the echause on the right the left hand pannier is bigger than the right one! this alone made me go for the Tracer 9GT which also has a much better engine and tyres, My Father in law has a tiger 900 and does not like the Tyres also
This bike loves fuel. I wonder if they improved the jumping up and down of this motorcycle on a smooth road. That was quite annoying. The engine has three cylinders and I expected very smooth operation. Perhaps it is slightly better than in most two-cylinder systems, but the difference is surprisingly small (and large in fuel consumption). You probably really like this aggressively raised exhaust - it looks cool, right? But in order to hang luggage there, you have to either move it away from the motorcycle or specially profile the pannier. That's why Honda 'didn't know this' and placed the exhaust low.
Very useful review. I like your narration style. Subscribed. Am a bit surprised about the "no Off-road capability at all" evaluation. I currently ride the 2015 Tiger 800Xrx which in Triumph model logic is the elderly ancestor of the more road-oriented 900GT. I have done a fair bit of "off-tarmac" riding with that. Nothing really technical, but gravel & forest roads etc. Could it be that the street tires make a real evaluation difficult here? Anyway, I agree - for a new bike the Rally Pro would be my choice as well.
Thanks, Jack. Yes, of course, you can take any bike off road - I was just doing some gravel tracks this morning with a friend on a BMW K1600GT - and I dare say the Tiger GT Pro could manage with some beefier tyres, but why not just get the Rally Pro and be done with it? :)
Tiger 850 and 900 are famous for their vibration. I can vouch for that as i own the 850 for more than 2 years now. Triumph say it is part of its 'character'. Don't get me wrong - i absolutely love the way it handles. It is very nimble, flickable and confidence oozing. The front Brembo Stylema works a treat. But the buzz is real from 145 km/h & above. Your hands will feel that 'needle' effect and some numbness after just 20 mins. Riding on a clear big freeway at speeds mostly between 130 to 170 km/h, you definitely need to stop in no more than 1.5 hours as you feel quite some uncomfortableness in the hands, hip and buttock. The handlebar vibration is irritatingly strong. Putting good quality foam grip and wearing decently padded gloves do not reduce the effect by much. I am not sure how much has the 2024 updated 900 models improved on the vibration issue. Some said there is but only marginally.
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Nothing much to add, except to say: a very enjoyable video with a very useful review on the Tiger! Thank you.
Thank you, glad you found it useful. Thanks for taking the time to watch :)
I have watched more than a couple of your moto’cicle reviews & have consistently come away with the opinion that this is a reviewer who offers a well thought out and comprehensive assessment of a particular product…and does so with high-style, class & panache…it’s obvious that you put great effort into your videos-MANY THANKS‼️
I own a variety of motorbikes, including a 2022 Triumph 900GT with extensive modifications-and LOVE IT❗️ And at 67 years of age, I can still mount my bikes without the assistance of a mini-trampoline😏
Look forward to viewing new content as you release it on TH-cam👍
Thanks for that, Ben. Much appreciated😊👍
Reviews on bikes can be so subjective. Today i had the opportunity to test ride both the Triumph Tiger 2024 Rally & the GT. Both are great bikes! Being 5" 7" tall I found the Rally just a tad challenging because of it's 860cm lowest seat height. Just on the balls of my feet. Especially when stopping on gravel roads with uneven terrain. Although i loved riding it. However, I found the GT Pro perfect for my height and an absolute gem to ride on tarmac and totally capable on gravel roads if you have no intentions of going further off road. I loved the 2024 GT Pro so much I bought one. Put a bash plate & lower engine guard on for my gravel travel. Will wear out the road tyres already on, then replace with 70/30's
Great choice, Paul. Enjoy!
check out the review of the 900 GT PRO on the MCNews channel. He (Wayne) shows some impressive off road riding on it.
As a fellow 5’7 king, this is very helpful. Many thanks!
@@paulguillemot2613 i agree with you. I was dead set on an Africa Twin until I drove the Tiger 1200 GT great bike!
I've had a Gt Pro for 3 years and would disagree with you on its ability for the occasional gravel / dirt road, grass field and firm sandy beach.. Set it in off road mode, a set of 70/30 tyres and away you go.. great fun... At 5ft 10 the geometry suits me very well and i love the electronic rear suspension ie put it in sport mode and it automatically stiffenes the dampness with the ability to fine tune.. semi active would describe it.. After 40+ years of messing about with "C" spanners this system suits me very nicely..
Love the versatility of this bike and thats why i have orderd the new one
Thanks for your feedback. Enjoy your new bike :)
Nice..had the previous version in rally pro …absolutely a brilliant bike ..had to sell it after 3 months and 3k miles as the vibes were killing me (hands) a bike I honestly was very upset to let go ..
Yes, they have improved the vibrations to a level that I would now be happy with. Not perfect, but acceptable. Better than my Transalp, for example. Thanks for your feedback :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I have seen a video where Sport Mode gets rid of the vibrations.
I did own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very well made, comfy and good bike on paper but, in my opinion, a very dull engine. Also it did have a weird vibration when riding at more than 100km/h. I ended up trading it just 6 months later for a Tracer 900.
Anyway, I'm happy to hear they have addressed some of the initial, if not all, complaints people had with the first generation.
I agree that the first generation lacked sparkle, but this new one is better. The CP3 engine is in a different league, though. Thanks for your input, David :)
Iam planning to buy 900, not Knowing differences between GT and GT Pro, your video helped me a lot, thanks a lot for valuable information,I will buy 900 GT Pro.
Glad you found it helpful. The Pro has more toys and will be easier to resell in a few years👍😊
Very interesting and brutally honest review. The transalp starts to look a really good proposition when compared to considerably more expensive bikes as although its suspension is basic, it does have good electronics (bar the throttle position thingy) and one can always upgrade suspension.
I agree. My Transalp is proving difficult to replace😉
Another wonderful review. Thanks so much for the effort you put into these, Mr. Grip-Angle!
Lol, thank you :)
I've never been a fan of quickshifts but the one on the 900GT is just amazing it is hugely fun and put a silly grin on my face. I didn't notice any heat issues on an Australian summer day. Yeah the screen isn't great it would need to be changed.
Yes, there's witchcraft in that shifter!
I have the just superseded model. I find the screen ok. I fitted larger "wings" from Puig that made a big difference.
Interesting. I did get the feeling that the standard wins were a bit on the small side.
@MaverickAus. Hey Mate. Where in Oz are you? In in Qld and seriously considering a GT Pro. Some have reported that the 2024 model pushes the heat away better so may wait until they are in stock up here.
@@kevinroberts2395 Coffs Harbour
Great review, you cover so many aspects of the bike.. brilliant
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it😊
I’ve listened to many but your analyses are superior!
Thank you😊
Great review. I bought the 2024 rally pro. So I am looking forward to the riding season.
I had a sit on a Rally Pro at Triumph Algarve this morning and it suits me much better than the GT. Have you taken delivery of yours yet?
No I live in the arctic. So I am going south to pick it up in april. And drive in the south untill spring comes to the arctic.@@RocketMan_Moto
Wow, the riding season must be very short, but I guess you have super long days in the summer👍
Yes riding season is short. It is from may to the end of september. It ia not as cold as it sounds even tough it is 70 degrees north. But I am trying to convice my wife to get a cabin in Portugal. Riding there in winter looks wonderfull.
We have a couple of ‘difficult weeks’ around Christmas and the New Year, but other than that, we can ride pretty much all year round. When we stopped for lunch on the group ride you can see in this video, it was 25C😎
Just to add to what I mentioned in my last comments. For the trip home soon after buying my GT Pro I made a detour to a gravel road of about 15kms. Your thoughts about the GT's capabilities on gravel/dirt roads was less than positive. I just want to rectify some of your comments. I guess your height of 6' 2" had a lot to do with it. I'm 5' 7" and I found the bike, still with road tires, and in off road mode handled very well on the gravel road i traveled. The GT is totally capable of some spirited gravel riding! Once I wear out the road tyres it will be even better with a set of 70/30 tires. Of course the Rally Pro is more capable in tougher terrain. For those of us that find the Rally seat height a tad challenging, the GT Pro is more than capable of handling gravel roads! Although I wouldn't venture beyond that, whereas the Rally could!
Fair enough, thanks for your input. You can go off-road on any bike if you really want. I followed a friend up a steep rocky path a few weeks ago and he was on his BMW K1600 GTL, lol. I personally found the GT Pro less suited to off-road duties than I had been expecting, but you are doubtless far more competent off the asphalt than I am :)
I'm the same height as you. Are you running the regular seat? Any problems with wind coming off the screen? It's something (tall) reviewers always complain about on adventure bikes.
I have several thousand miles on a 2020 GT Pro, and now own a 2024 GT Pro. With the addition of bar risers I think the GT Pro is an excellent dirt/gravel road bike. I have put hundreds and hundreds of "off road" dirt riding on a GT Pro and I find it a joy. Really balanced, excellent throttle control, short turning radius, lowish seat height and decent suspension if not doing any kind of rocky terrain, and of course terrible in mud due to weight and tires. My friends riding KTM 690's and Taureg 660 are a bit surprised to see me easily keeping up with them. With that said, I am only 160 pounds, and an experienced off road rider. I don' hesitate to take my GT Pro with luggage on dirt roads as long as they are not actual 4WD roads. The stock tires are fine in dry conditions. Sand? I would not do deep sand but surface sand on hard pack is fine.
Good to hear. Thanks for your input👍😊
This road reminds me the one Triumph used for a press-launch earlier in December :) But I might be wrong. Great review as usual!
Thanks, Sergey😊 Several manufacturers use this area (Faro) for their press launches, especially in winter ☀️
I have an 800 tiger and engine heat is not an issue providing temps are lower than 25C. Anything above that and engine heat is severe. Will not be testing the 900 until mid summer here in Aus.
Thanks for your input👍😊
RocketMan does a detailed and well thought out review, much better that many. Thank You! I have a 2024 900 GT Pro exactly like the one reviewed and agree with the assessment here. As I am just under 5 ft 10 and my off-road days were long ago you have convinced me that I brought the right one. The RallyPro would not be for me.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I’m very pleased with the Rally Pro, but it’s a big bike; even at 6’2, I prefer the seat on its lower setting. Ride safe👍😊
I have the 2022 1200 Explorer - fabulous bike! 20,000 miles in and the only complaint is the lack of choice of tyres - I agree with you with those Metzeler tyres! You get used to them but I do much prefer Dunlop rubber. I'm the same height as you, it fits perfectly. But it is not my perfect bike, that is my Rocket 3 TFC, but it is almost as good. Tried the 900, great bike but the 1200 Tiger beats all others in the adventure segment for me.
I will be in Portugal/Spain/North Africa in late spring, will see how those Metzelers perform in the sand 😲
Wow, nice garage you have there :)
Nice "quick" test and very useful. In general I like the Triumph triple engines and appreciate the updated Tiger 900 for it's better look, upgraded engine, better dash.
But if I were in the market for a road focused adventure bike I'd go for the Vstrom 800 (RE) and have some 5k€ left for after market accessories over the Tiger.
Price is the main issue, I agree
Very comprehensive.
But expensive.
And as they get so big the more unmanageable they become.
I really believe small, manageable bikes you can take anywhere are the answer, for me at least. New 400 scrambler looks great. Rumours are Rally Raid might do some work on one. Perfect.
Nice to have the choice.
Ride safe 👍
Agreed, the price is the main sticking point for me. 60% more than the Transalp!
Great test thank you. Never get tired of looking at that beautiful ocean 🌊
Thanks, Steve. It certainly is beautiful😊
4 years since your XR… blimey, how long have I been a subscriber 😮
I know. Where does the time go?😊
👍 nicely done squire. Clear, concise and world’s better than AI.
Ride safe all.
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Thanks, Stephen👍😊
Awesome video! I bet the triple sounds wonderful. It is a beautiful bike for sure. Best!
Thanks. The sound was nothing special, tbh, which is probably why I forgot to mention it😬
Love your videos. Much more informative than most other videos that rattle off specs and platitudes.
I am similar to you in size and I will likely get the 2024 RP (I already have a 2022 RP)...but I've also been considering GTP since most of my riding is on the road.
Seeing as how there are no aftermarket suspension upgrade options for the GTP, do you think it's sufficient for larger riders?
Thanks, Charles. 99.9% of my miles are on road, but I do like having the option to wander down an intriguing looking gravel track for 10 minutes or so. To be fair, I could probably do it on the GTP, but I also prefer the RP’s looks. A friend of mine has a 24GTP and is very happy with it, but he admits that if he were taller (he’s 5’9), he would have preferred a RP. I didn’t particularly want electronic suspension and I can’t really ‘feel’ the 21-inch front end on the road, so have no regrets about choosing the RP, even though I don’t fully exploit its off-road abilities😊
Fantastic review 👏 extremely informative.
Very Professional.
You sound like James May 😅 Top Gear
Excellent TV voice.
Thank You.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it :)
You’re definitely not Captain Slow 😂
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Did you select "Off Road " mode on the gravel road? It winds the preload down on the rear shock. Makes the bike lower and more stable offroad. If doing a long distance off road you should back off the compression and rebound on the front shocks. I've done a quite a few gravel roads on my Tiger configured this way with full luggage.
I did try off-road mode, yes, and I agree it was less lairy than Sport. Have you put different tyres on? I found the Metzelers seemed to be the biggest handicap.
Great review. Thought the same when I had an old gen 900 Tiger, though i found the engine too whiney compared to an off beat twin, Transalp still top of my ly list, just waiting for your review of the cruise control. Please 🙏
Thanks. Last time I spoke to the cruise control people, they said they'd be ready to send me one 'end of January'. Fingers crossed.
As ever very watchable review, and great attention to the details that matter.. Stabby keys I love it haha. 😊
More than my thighs did... Thanks, Graham :)
Nice bike. Thanks for the video. Lovely weather ☀️
Thanks, Bruno. Yes, spring seems to have arrived :)
Brought 1 interested to see how much better it will be compared to my 2023 gt pro
The improvements are palpable👍😊
Nice review but you missed something - at 14:15 into the video you said there is no room under the rear pillion seat, but in fact there is a compartment for a smart phone with a USB C charging port under the flap that you showed a photo of.
True. Well spotted👍😊
Great review
Thank you :)
I sold my 2019 Tracer 900 GT to move to a new 2024 Tiger Rally Pro can't wait to see the difference in power.
The 2024 Tiger is better than the first generation, but it’s quite a bit down on the Tracer 9
I wanted more off road. I loved the tracer was fantastic bike with zero issues. If Yamaha had a competitor to the tiger 900 rally pro I most likely would have stuck with Yamaha. I don't need all the HP of the tracer for off roading
Been waiting for this one😀
Enjoy👍😊
Excellent review of a very tempting bike,thanks
Thanks, Martin😊👍
Great that Triumph released new 900cc tiger range this year. Due to that all dealers nearby where I live are in a hurry to sell older generation bikes. Purchased a previous year Tiger 850 Sport. Yes, the 850 has its minuses, but for that price(and my use case) it beats all the competition. Could not justify the +4-6k eur for the GT PRO (again, for my usage) Main choose was between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Transalp was 1500 eur more, but did not offer many advantages.
RocketMan. Thank you for the video.
P.S eager to start my new riding season on the Tiger. Unfortunately there is about a 4 month wait till that will happen.
Triumph Algarve has a bunch of previous generation Tiger 900s, too. I think the main advantage of the Transalp is its off-road ability
I'm hesitating between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Here in Spain the 850 is 1300 euros more expensive than the Transalp.
@@pedrosonic id bet my money on the honda in this case. 850 sport really has no upsides if its cost is bigger. In terms of looks they are both similar (and ugly. But thats subjective). But ride em both, se what suits you best.
@@aleksandrskusnirs6259 Thanks for your opinion. I'll use the bike mostly on road, that's why I tend to prefer the Tiger's 19-inch front wheel and its tubeless tires.
waiting for your stelvio/Mandelo review.
As soon as my dealer gets a demo bike🤞
Bar risers fix the problem, l love the Tiger!
Annoying to have to solve a problem when you buy a new bike, though. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto they feel fine to me. If you want to make everyone happy, don't make motorcycles, give away ice cream. Lol
@@neilcole3406 What risers did you use?
Great review as always, I would take the tiger in a heartbeat
Thank you. Yes, lovely bike. Pity it's so expensive ;)
Yes ridiculous price
what is the ground clearance of the bike?, i couldn't find it precisely anywhere mate.
I don’t know either, sorry
thats a really good constructive feedback, but what is your height? regarding the saddling position.
187cm / 6´2
Great review for the new 2024, I think this may be the year I pull the trigger on a Tiger finally.
How did Mrs. RM feel about the foot pegs? My fiancée loves how comfortable the seat was on our test ride for the 2023, but the pegs were vibrating her foot/leg asleep after 5 minutes.
She didn’t mention anything at the time. Just said it was one of the most comfortable bikes she’d been on.
Great review!
Thanks, Pistol :)
Thank you for this lovely video. I'm unable to decide between the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and the new Africa Twin Adventure Sports in Manual.
Hopefully you will test the 2024 Africa Twin and help me make up my mind!
I’d like to, but my Honda dealer doesn’t have any dates yet🙏😊
Great video as usual, just a note, i think theres a storage with usb below the passenger seat.
Thanks. Yes, there’s a small box to keep a phone in👍
Can you give me your choice for 99% road….gt pro vs multistrada v2s? Currently on a 1200 Speed twin. Thanks!
I sold my Speed 1200 (and Honda Transalp) for the Tiger 900 RP and don’t regret it at all. I have yet to try the V2S, however, so can’t comment on that. I have read that they are less economical and give off more heat, though, which is no good in the Algarve during the summer months😊
Good one , once again …considering the tiger or the Africa twin L manual
I quite fancy hanging on to see if they'll bring out an eClutch AT for 2025? My dealer had no info when I enquired yesterday, however.
Nice review. The gas tank has more information and warning stickers then I've seen so far. Perhaps an advantage if you go to Gibraltar and are bored during the ride - you can read the stickers for an hour or so. I'm sure I'd love the ride quality and acceleration (as I did on my F750GS), but 222 kg is unnecessarily too heavy for me. You could have tried how far you can jump with the Tiger off the cliff. Cheers.
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I'm looking forward to your review on the Triumph 400. You wax lyrical, and rightly so, about the build quality on the 900 and your speed twin but at that price it's to be expected. But the obviously build down to a price with budget brakes and suspension of the 400 I'm wondering what you will make of it.
I think we're all wondering that, Ian. The 400s look fabulous from a distance, but I've seen some worrying reports from owners in India...
When on their stand i asked them who did the suspension and either they didn't know or weren't telling. The new Himalayan has Showa suspension but Triumphs certainly didn't look like that in the slightest.
This is the problem
I liked the comfort comparison to the Goldwing. I'm about to switch from a Goldwing to the 900 GT Pro because riding has gotten to be mostly long day rides and 2-up only 10% of the time. At 6'3", the Tiger fit very nicely and the misses liked the rear seat position. I was cross shopping to the Tracer GT+ (found it a bit cramped) and the new Africa Twin (vaporware in the US). Issue in the US is that the Tracer is a unicorn to find at Yamaha dealers and Honda has yet to announce the Africa Twin for the US market (they skipped on the 2023). I've had GS's before but can't see a $10k difference between the 2024 bikes and 105hp will do nicely. Any comparison on the GT Pro to the 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport?
Nice. I haven’t ridden the 2024 Africa Twin yet, but journos on the press launch last week (on the same roads you see in this video) have compared it to the GT Pro.
Hey man! Thanks for the review! I was looking at GT Pro, but still got the new TransAlp (finally). I love the TA, especially its engine. Though for some reason my consumption is above 5l/100km still. Is that because I am still under first 1000 kms?
Hope to see you on the road!
5 seems high, but yes, it could be because you haven't completely loosened up the engine. On a gentle run, I have seen mine drop as low as 3.6
Price, looks, Honda reliability & dealer network. The Transalp has had some bad press, but I think it’s a decent bike, especially for the money.
Very good review, covering most of the upgrades I was wondering about. I am thinking of changing my 2021 gt pro for the new one. 3 years is a reasonable time to think about changing? I disagree about the brakes and vibration. I had the old 800, which, although smoother, gave out high pitched vibration, resulting in white finger. The 900 has lower frequency vibration, which doesn’t give me any problems. I also think the stylema brakes are very good. The nissins on the 800 weren't anything like as sensitive or powerful. They also used to bind onde the mud and rain worked their magic! Cheers.
I'm not saying the Stylemas are poor, it's just that I've tried the same disc and calliper setup on the Speed Triple with a better master cylinder and there's a huge improvement. I think if your 900 is 3 years old, then you deserve an upgrade ;)
@RocketMan_Moto Just to say I have now had my 2024 gt pro since March. I got a great trade in oon my 2021 model. Loving the new bike. The slight upgrades, like the dash and extra power, are just what was was needed.
Another good review
Thank you :)
how does the passenger seat feel on the rally pro ?
I haven’t tried it but Mrs RM reports it’s one of the most comfortable pillion seats she’s tried on any bike
Great honest review, nice to see one not done by the press! I have a 2018 Tiger 800, and after riding the 1200 Rally Pro last year, I'm completely sold on that t-plane crank engine, the growl is just something else. Looked at last year's 900, but don't like the angel-wing layout of the display, just looks naff to me. The hotel-marmalade-jar brake fluid reservoir looks cheap too, wondering if anyone makes a cast/milled aluminium version?
Lol, hôtel marmelade… I’ll use that😂 I’m sure an anodised version, like the one on my Speed Twin, could be made to work👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Please do, it's the closest description I could think of 🙂
Love it👍😂
I was particularly interested in your comments regarding the metzeler Tourance tyres. I was considering these as a replacement on my Transalp when the the Karoo's wear out. I'm not so sure now. Were the metzelers the Next or Next2?
Next 1, I think. I certainly wouldn't put them on my Transalp. I find the Karoos significantly better on and off road.
@@RocketMan_Moto I agree the Karoo's are very good even in greasy wet conditions. I don't go off-road very often and just thought a 90/10 tyre would be even better.
I get that. I had thought about putting some 100% road tyres on, as if I do go off road it’s only for a few hundred metres, but finding 21 road tyres isn’t easy
I would be interested to know how the suspension performs with a pillion and fully loaded compared to the Transalp.
I only tried the Tiger with Mrs RM (no luggage), but there's much more preload compared to what's available on the Transalp
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, so if I’m going to have to upgrade the suspension on a Transalp for two up riding it certainly makes price difference much less significant.
I’d say so
would you say this bike is ok for mostly city commuting, some long (350km) rides on the highway and maybe some extremely rare offroad trails?
Absolutely. Long cruises no problem at all, good for commuting and I suppose, yes, if you're only dipping your toe into off-roading, why not. You can take just about any bike off the beaten track from time to time. I was on a group ride a few days ago and a mate in front of me took his BMW K1600GT 2km up a gravelly hill :) Watch out for my video towards the end of the week about the Rally Pro version, though: it's much more viable off road and surprisingly good on it :)
Good review. My favourite Triumph is the new Scrambler 1200 X.
Love the looks, but that high exhaust would worry me for the hot summers here ;)
@@RocketMan_Moto True.
Think this is my next move away from my GS1200 these seem a nice bike, just need to research servicing cost
I’m very pleased with my Rally Pro👍
Would love you to compare this with F900XR. I am currently on F900XR and very much interested in this Tiger as an alternative. Cheers, thanks!
I owned an F900XR when they first came out, but sold it after 5 months because I didn’t gel with it. The Tiger is much more comfortable and has a much pokier engine👍😊
Hi Rocketman, love your reviews! I suppose we are on geographical opposites as I am a Portuguese guy living in the UK. 😅
I currently own a Tiger Sport 660, and today, I went for an all day test drive with the GT Pro whilst mine was servicing. I must confess I did not love it. Here are some thoughts of things that in my humble personal opinion stood out between the 900 GT Pro vs my Tiger Sport 660. I do 70% of my riding in the city (London) and 30% motorway/a roads and b roads. Would love your feedback, if you have the time of course: on the plus side, comfier, plushier, easier to manoeuvre at city speeds (19 inch wheel), great brakes, feels like a could ride it all day. Down side: uglier than the 660 (personal opinion), would love a spoke wheels option and all those stickers in the paint, some of them lacquered like the 900, just don’t agree with me, engine sounds a bit like a tractor, felt a bit of disconnect/directness in throttle response, disappointed with the torque (though it would have a bit more response), the vibes through the pegs are just awful at city speeds of 20/30mph (around 3000 rpm). Still feeling the tingling on n my feet. There are other few niggles that are more personal taste than anything but all in all, very disappointed with a bike that would cost my current motorbike (which is 2 years old and valued at about 6k) plus another 9k to buy. I personally wouldn’t go for the Rally (which I love the design) or the 1200. Both too big for the amount of city riding I do.
Thanks for reading!
Kind Regards,
Antonio
Thanks for your input. I wonder if it’s not a question of size? I’m 187cm and 95kg and so I find the 660 a bit lightweight for me.
I realy appreciate your unbias and honest reviews. I was looking at this bike but have my doubts. Was also looking at the African Twin ADV Sports manual 2024, but it's not worth the money. The Yami 900 Tracer 900 GT Plus is not a true touring bike, so I am still looking. The Tiger 900 GT Pro and Rally Pro are exactly the same price in NZ.
You may have seen that I ended up buying a Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very happy with it so far :)
Which one u like the most translap or 900 gt?
Well, I sold my Transalp for a Tiger 900 Rally Pro 3 months ago and don’t regret it at all😊
If you had to pick between this and the Tracer 9GT+, which would you go for???
Tiger (I bought the Rally Pro 2 months ago). The Tracer has a fabulous engine, but fit & finish is poor, it looks a bit odd and the windscreen is useless
Nice video, is a good bike for commuting honestly? daily use (comfortable) and weekend touring, of perhaps recreation purpose? this is better than ktm 890 for my purpose ? I only drive on public roads/highways... it is wise to jump from naked bike to this touring/Adventure for daily use.
Any way great video
Be safe
Thanks. If anything, a Tiger 900 is possibly too nice to commute on, but for touring & weekend rides, it’s pretty much perfect. And more comfortable than a KTM.
Thanks for respons & massage ❤
I am starting to like the TransAlp less and less nowadays. I still cannot unsee the protrusion on the underside. I find it unsettling and the lack of some convenience items notwithstanding, I don't find it a particularly good looking bike. Looks like you need to be on high alert navigating in the Algarve with cliffs to your right and pedestrians to your left. Cheers to you and Mrs. Rocket!
I don’t regret changing for the Tiger 900. Cheers👍😊
If I were shopping for a versatile yet sporty touring bike, this would be in the running. If I were set on exploring more dirt, I would sacrifice some long-range comfort for a smaller, lighter machine. Triumph wisely configured the GT.
Yes, it’s nice to have the choice
On the ride outs, what would be the spread of nationalities riding with you roughly please? Must make living there 'the icing on the ...'!
Nice question😊 There were over 50 riders on this particular occasion. I’d say 50% British, 20% German, 20% Dutch and 10% ‘Other’ (French, Swiss, Belgian, Swedish…). I think there are a couple of Portuguese guys, but the club mainly attracts expatriates👍
Good review thanks. Such a shame that the Rallye Pro is Sidney Sweeney and the GT Pro is Oilve from on the buses. But I don't go offroad or want a 21" front wheel and knobblys. Cheers
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so ,is it better than the transalp ?
Not better, but nicer
I own a '21 - 100% correct regarding the 'mid-grade' master cylinder. Baffles me why Triumph would top-spec the calipers and then partially neuter them with a JJuan MC. I haven't had any issues with heat, including rides in 90+ degrees F. Mostly mitigated the handlebar vibes with BarkBuster bar-end weights. Aside from the extremely high maintenance costs (12K = $1,500 USD...) I really like the bike.
Wow, that’s a shockingly high bill🤨
Thanks for a comprehensive review, I find the Tiger range interesting, good design, paint and reliability, however the choice of tyres on both the 900 and 1200 are so restrictive, why does Triumph stick with these odd sized tyres? Enjoy your channel, many thanks.
Thanks. Good point about the tyres👍
Road tested triumph tiger and was happy with the issues I had with the previous model dash and more power had been sorted tried Yamaha tracer 9gt love the engine just found the suspension to hard even in softest setting specially on our roads in UK. Ps I think I might see if I can get a 900gt pro and take it on a track day preferably with off road tyres that would be fun 😂 just like I'd take the gt off road 😂
The Yamaha’s finish also lets it down, imo. Not to mention the ‘unique’ looks… Thanks for your input👍😊
Thanks for bringing up the heat from the radiators. Very few people I follow mention that or say they don’t see any issues. In Florida it was awful when I demo rode this bike but interested in it. Hope you can test it again in the summer. Cheers!
They seem to have partially addressed the issue with this new generation
Out of interest, is the 'seat to peg' height taller on the Rally Pro than on the GT Pro? That is where you gain 'leg room' and not on the claimed seat height. I'm a strictly 'black top' rider so off road capabilities don't concern me. I'm currently on a BMW R1200RS and I'm finding the 'seat to peg' height increasing less comfortable as I get older. Enjoy your reviews as always.
Thanks, Kevin. The Rally certainly felt more roomy when I sat on it yesterday👍😊
Triumph tiger brilliant bikes cool review 😎..👍🇮🇪
Thanks, Gerry :)
Great review as always. After owning the previous model, still having the vibes is a dealbreaker for a touring bike. Remember, Triumph manufactured the vibes for off road purposes, but this is a road touring machine. Doesn’t make sense.
Also, hard to compare with the Transalp with the price difference.
The vibrations have decreased significantly since the first generation, but yes, they're still there unfortunately. Better than the Transalp, however...
Good review and thanks as always. Nice bike but too expensive and too small for me, 1.90 mt....
I would never change this one over a Transalp. Maybe if I stay on the road all times.....but still if you're cramped with your legs, I cannot imagine myself on a ride like this.
Cheers, V.
I sat on the Rally Pro this morning at Triumph Algarve and it's much taller. I could only just flat foot both feet, whereas on the Transalp I can do that easily.
very , very good review ,,,
Thank you, Simon :)
It's worth giving the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ a try, as it is in the same price range as the Tiger 900 GT Pro, yet it offers the added benefits of active radar cruise control and an exceptionally spirited engine.
I know the 9GT well, although I haven't tested the +. Tbh, though, as much as I like the engine, it just doesn't have the off-road abilities that I'd like.
I'm holding out for a Yamaha Tenere that boasts a CP3 engine and 20 cm active suspension travel, coupled with 21-inch front wheels. Patience is a virtue, and I'm optimistic that it will pay off in the end (fingers crossed 🙂).@@RocketMan_Moto
A Tenere 900 would be a big hit. Can’t really understand what’s taking Yamaha so long🤔
@@RocketMan_MotoIn my humble opinion, wrong engine for a tenere, too rampant. Similarly the much much rumoured r9, again cp3 great engine but too flat (relatively) at top end for a sportsbike. Egg on my face potential in that comment, but hey ho.
10:36 yes please test it in the summer
I have bought the Rally Pro now. Will that do?😊
First word problems cracked me up 😂
Damned spikey key ;)
Maybe the sweet spot between the Transalp and spending real money going to a 1300GS, but I would expect for the prize to have at least keyless and a blind spot detector. These " more known " brands really need to pay attention to what's coming from China makers. Same goes for the new Africa Twin.
I agree. The Tiger makes more sense than the GS in my book :)
@@PovilasPanavas , I really understand your thoughts, I was in the same position, a few months back I've tried a CFMoto and when changing lane I received a warning, after looking to my left there was a Vespa coming from nowhere and I didn't saw it on the mirror.
I agree about the tyres.I think they are rubbish particularly in the wet. A set of Road 6's makes a big difference
Yes, disappointing
Your helmet shots with the new GoPro were better than all your previous helmet shots XD Just saying ;)
I agree. Much nicer quality now😊
Great bike. I have the 23 GT Pro.. unfortunately it Lacks power and seat is uncomfortable
Yes, I found the 2021 model a bit lacklustre, but the new bike is punchier and the seat has also been improved.
For me the Tiger has always been a fantastic road bike. I tried riding the older 800xc model off road. Even with off road biased tyres it just wasn't at home. I dont believe the chassis or engine (traditional triumph triple) suited off road riding. For me I wish Triumph would scrap the cross plane crank and just sell the Tiger as road focussed bike. Because the original triple made it different and for the better. I had no problem riding the "road version" Tiger 800 with its 19" front wheel on gravel roads. And to me that's all the bike needs to do. Adventure bikes have become a fashion statement. Basically if they don't look like they can take on Dakar, then they sort of get written off as a worthy contender. Yet so many riders only use them as road bikes with the occasional dirt road.
The KTM 1190R I owned got used as intended. It saw gnarly enduro single track, fast flowing fire trails. But that bike was designed from the start to be an off-road bike. Whereas the Trumpy was designed to be a comfortable, easy to live with road bike. And to me, it's one of the best practical, long-distance touring bikes.
Thanks for your feedback :)
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Thank you for all your detailed and quality content.
It’s a pleasure (usually😉)
Do you have a guess about when they'll launch a Tiger 400? That's what I want.
Well, the Scrambler 400X in green is more or less sold out in Europe for the foreseeable future. I would imagine that if the 2 existing 400s prove this popular in the long term, they will be offering different variations on the same chassis. I have no firm info yet, however.
Hi Rocketman
the one imprvement i would of wanted is seemelss panniers instead of needing all the scaffolding and then because of the echause on the right the left hand pannier is bigger than the right one! this alone made me go for the Tracer 9GT which also has a much better engine and tyres, My Father in law has a tiger 900 and does not like the Tyres also
I agree the Tracer’s engine is fabulous👍
This bike loves fuel. I wonder if they improved the jumping up and down of this motorcycle on a smooth road. That was quite annoying. The engine has three cylinders and I expected very smooth operation. Perhaps it is slightly better than in most two-cylinder systems, but the difference is surprisingly small (and large in fuel consumption).
You probably really like this aggressively raised exhaust - it looks cool, right? But in order to hang luggage there, you have to either move it away from the motorcycle or specially profile the pannier. That's why Honda 'didn't know this' and placed the exhaust low.
The engine is now very smooth, much better than gen 1, but I agree that the unnecessarily high exhaust (for a tourer) limits luggage options.
Odd other people have taken the GT Pro off road and say it can do a bit of off road.
Maybe I’m just too tall
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah that wouldn't help. I'm too short and the Rally Pro isn't an option 😒
Helmet in the shot is nothing to be sorry for - it looks very 👍
Good to know😊👍
We’re not all 6ft + tall to have the rally 900,if we were lots of us would have the choice of the 1200 tiger also,
Yes🤔
Very useful review. I like your narration style. Subscribed.
Am a bit surprised about the "no Off-road capability at all" evaluation. I currently ride the 2015 Tiger 800Xrx which in Triumph model logic is the elderly ancestor of the more road-oriented 900GT. I have done a fair bit of "off-tarmac" riding with that. Nothing really technical, but gravel & forest roads etc. Could it be that the street tires make a real evaluation difficult here?
Anyway, I agree - for a new bike the Rally Pro would be my choice as well.
Thanks, Jack. Yes, of course, you can take any bike off road - I was just doing some gravel tracks this morning with a friend on a BMW K1600GT - and I dare say the Tiger GT Pro could manage with some beefier tyres, but why not just get the Rally Pro and be done with it? :)
Tiger 850 and 900 are famous for their vibration. I can vouch for that as i own the 850 for more than 2 years now. Triumph say it is part of its 'character'.
Don't get me wrong - i absolutely love the way it handles. It is very nimble, flickable and confidence oozing. The front Brembo Stylema works a treat.
But the buzz is real from 145 km/h & above. Your hands will feel that 'needle' effect and some numbness after just 20 mins. Riding on a clear big freeway at speeds mostly between 130 to 170 km/h, you definitely need to stop in no more than 1.5 hours as you feel quite some uncomfortableness in the hands, hip and buttock.
The handlebar vibration is irritatingly strong. Putting good quality foam grip and wearing decently padded gloves do not reduce the effect by much.
I am not sure how much has the 2024 updated 900 models improved on the vibration issue. Some said there is but only marginally.
Yes, it’s improved but still there🫤
Never heard anybody say that the previous generation's engine power was lackluster...
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