If I were shopping for a versatile yet sporty touring bike, this would be in the running. If I were set on exploring more dirt, I would sacrifice some long-range comfort for a smaller, lighter machine. Triumph wisely configured the GT.
Hi Rocketman, love your reviews! I suppose we are on geographical opposites as I am a Portuguese guy living in the UK. 😅 I currently own a Tiger Sport 660, and today, I went for an all day test drive with the GT Pro whilst mine was servicing. I must confess I did not love it. Here are some thoughts of things that in my humble personal opinion stood out between the 900 GT Pro vs my Tiger Sport 660. I do 70% of my riding in the city (London) and 30% motorway/a roads and b roads. Would love your feedback, if you have the time of course: on the plus side, comfier, plushier, easier to manoeuvre at city speeds (19 inch wheel), great brakes, feels like a could ride it all day. Down side: uglier than the 660 (personal opinion), would love a spoke wheels option and all those stickers in the paint, some of them lacquered like the 900, just don’t agree with me, engine sounds a bit like a tractor, felt a bit of disconnect/directness in throttle response, disappointed with the torque (though it would have a bit more response), the vibes through the pegs are just awful at city speeds of 20/30mph (around 3000 rpm). Still feeling the tingling on n my feet. There are other few niggles that are more personal taste than anything but all in all, very disappointed with a bike that would cost my current motorbike (which is 2 years old and valued at about 6k) plus another 9k to buy. I personally wouldn’t go for the Rally (which I love the design) or the 1200. Both too big for the amount of city riding I do. Thanks for reading! Kind Regards, Antonio
I've had a Gt Pro for 3 years and would disagree with you on its ability for the occasional gravel / dirt road, grass field and firm sandy beach.. Set it in off road mode, a set of 70/30 tyres and away you go.. great fun... At 5ft 10 the geometry suits me very well and i love the electronic rear suspension ie put it in sport mode and it automatically stiffenes the dampness with the ability to fine tune.. semi active would describe it.. After 40+ years of messing about with "C" spanners this system suits me very nicely.. Love the versatility of this bike and thats why i have orderd the new one
Nice..had the previous version in rally pro …absolutely a brilliant bike ..had to sell it after 3 months and 3k miles as the vibes were killing me (hands) a bike I honestly was very upset to let go ..
Yes, they have improved the vibrations to a level that I would now be happy with. Not perfect, but acceptable. Better than my Transalp, for example. Thanks for your feedback :)
Reviews on bikes can be so subjective. Today i had the opportunity to test ride both the Triumph Tiger 2024 Rally & the GT. Both are great bikes! Being 5" 7" tall I found the Rally just a tad challenging because of it's 860cm lowest seat height. Just on the balls of my feet. Especially when stopping on gravel roads with uneven terrain. Although i loved riding it. However, I found the GT Pro perfect for my height and an absolute gem to ride on tarmac and totally capable on gravel roads if you have no intentions of going further off road. I loved the 2024 GT Pro so much I bought one. Put a bash plate & lower engine guard on for my gravel travel. Will wear out the road tyres already on, then replace with 70/30's
Iam planning to buy 900, not Knowing differences between GT and GT Pro, your video helped me a lot, thanks a lot for valuable information,I will buy 900 GT Pro.
I have watched more than a couple of your moto’cicle reviews & have consistently come away with the opinion that this is a reviewer who offers a well thought out and comprehensive assessment of a particular product…and does so with high-style, class & panache…it’s obvious that you put great effort into your videos-MANY THANKS‼️ I own a variety of motorbikes, including a 2022 Triumph 900GT with extensive modifications-and LOVE IT❗️ And at 67 years of age, I can still mount my bikes without the assistance of a mini-trampoline😏 Look forward to viewing new content as you release it on TH-cam👍
I did own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very well made, comfy and good bike on paper but, in my opinion, a very dull engine. Also it did have a weird vibration when riding at more than 100km/h. I ended up trading it just 6 months later for a Tracer 900. Anyway, I'm happy to hear they have addressed some of the initial, if not all, complaints people had with the first generation.
I agree that the first generation lacked sparkle, but this new one is better. The CP3 engine is in a different league, though. Thanks for your input, David :)
Very comprehensive. But expensive. And as they get so big the more unmanageable they become. I really believe small, manageable bikes you can take anywhere are the answer, for me at least. New 400 scrambler looks great. Rumours are Rally Raid might do some work on one. Perfect. Nice to have the choice. Ride safe 👍
Just to add to what I mentioned in my last comments. For the trip home soon after buying my GT Pro I made a detour to a gravel road of about 15kms. Your thoughts about the GT's capabilities on gravel/dirt roads was less than positive. I just want to rectify some of your comments. I guess your height of 6' 2" had a lot to do with it. I'm 5' 7" and I found the bike, still with road tires, and in off road mode handled very well on the gravel road i traveled. The GT is totally capable of some spirited gravel riding! Once I wear out the road tyres it will be even better with a set of 70/30 tires. Of course the Rally Pro is more capable in tougher terrain. For those of us that find the Rally seat height a tad challenging, the GT Pro is more than capable of handling gravel roads! Although I wouldn't venture beyond that, whereas the Rally could!
Fair enough, thanks for your input. You can go off-road on any bike if you really want. I followed a friend up a steep rocky path a few weeks ago and he was on his BMW K1600 GTL, lol. I personally found the GT Pro less suited to off-road duties than I had been expecting, but you are doubtless far more competent off the asphalt than I am :)
I've never been a fan of quickshifts but the one on the 900GT is just amazing it is hugely fun and put a silly grin on my face. I didn't notice any heat issues on an Australian summer day. Yeah the screen isn't great it would need to be changed.
@MaverickAus. Hey Mate. Where in Oz are you? In in Qld and seriously considering a GT Pro. Some have reported that the 2024 model pushes the heat away better so may wait until they are in stock up here.
Great review. Thought the same when I had an old gen 900 Tiger, though i found the engine too whiney compared to an off beat twin, Transalp still top of my ly list, just waiting for your review of the cruise control. Please 🙏
Nice "quick" test and very useful. In general I like the Triumph triple engines and appreciate the updated Tiger 900 for it's better look, upgraded engine, better dash. But if I were in the market for a road focused adventure bike I'd go for the Vstrom 800 (RE) and have some 5k€ left for after market accessories over the Tiger.
I have the 2022 1200 Explorer - fabulous bike! 20,000 miles in and the only complaint is the lack of choice of tyres - I agree with you with those Metzeler tyres! You get used to them but I do much prefer Dunlop rubber. I'm the same height as you, it fits perfectly. But it is not my perfect bike, that is my Rocket 3 TFC, but it is almost as good. Tried the 900, great bike but the 1200 Tiger beats all others in the adventure segment for me. I will be in Portugal/Spain/North Africa in late spring, will see how those Metzelers perform in the sand 😲
Well, the Scrambler 400X in green is more or less sold out in Europe for the foreseeable future. I would imagine that if the 2 existing 400s prove this popular in the long term, they will be offering different variations on the same chassis. I have no firm info yet, however.
I have an 800 tiger and engine heat is not an issue providing temps are lower than 25C. Anything above that and engine heat is severe. Will not be testing the 900 until mid summer here in Aus.
Maybe the sweet spot between the Transalp and spending real money going to a 1300GS, but I would expect for the prize to have at least keyless and a blind spot detector. These " more known " brands really need to pay attention to what's coming from China makers. Same goes for the new Africa Twin.
@@PovilasPanavas , I really understand your thoughts, I was in the same position, a few months back I've tried a CFMoto and when changing lane I received a warning, after looking to my left there was a Vespa coming from nowhere and I didn't saw it on the mirror.
Did you select "Off Road " mode on the gravel road? It winds the preload down on the rear shock. Makes the bike lower and more stable offroad. If doing a long distance off road you should back off the compression and rebound on the front shocks. I've done a quite a few gravel roads on my Tiger configured this way with full luggage.
I did try off-road mode, yes, and I agree it was less lairy than Sport. Have you put different tyres on? I found the Metzelers seemed to be the biggest handicap.
It’s always on the left knee not the right? Miserable in summer with gear on but that one shortcoming I can handle. The tiger 9 is the easiest bike I’ve ever ridden. Made it a little boring for me.? Leaves you thinking your a better rider than you actually are.
Good review thanks. Such a shame that the Rallye Pro is Sidney Sweeney and the GT Pro is Oilve from on the buses. But I don't go offroad or want a 21" front wheel and knobblys. Cheers
Good review, but I gotta take issue with a part of it. If you want to go faster and you've run out of revs, you don't need more power, you need to shift up a gear. I reckon this thing would do 130 mph or so. If you're going that fast regularly, you'll either lose you license or life before long. These lanky bikes were never meant for that anyway. I hit a pothole on the interstate once on a Versys 1000 at 90 mph and it went into what I thought was going to be a life ending tank slapper. And these things get worse when you start hanging ginormous metal boxes all over them. Not exactly aerodynamic. That said, if they'd paint one of these like the red Aragon and stop burying useful shit like the odometer under menus, I could be a buyer.
Tiger (I bought the Rally Pro 2 months ago). The Tracer has a fabulous engine, but fit & finish is poor, it looks a bit odd and the windscreen is useless
I wanted more off road. I loved the tracer was fantastic bike with zero issues. If Yamaha had a competitor to the tiger 900 rally pro I most likely would have stuck with Yamaha. I don't need all the HP of the tracer for off roading
Nice video, is a good bike for commuting honestly? daily use (comfortable) and weekend touring, of perhaps recreation purpose? this is better than ktm 890 for my purpose ? I only drive on public roads/highways... it is wise to jump from naked bike to this touring/Adventure for daily use. Any way great video Be safe
Thanks. If anything, a Tiger 900 is possibly too nice to commute on, but for touring & weekend rides, it’s pretty much perfect. And more comfortable than a KTM.
I'm looking forward to your review on the Triumph 400. You wax lyrical, and rightly so, about the build quality on the 900 and your speed twin but at that price it's to be expected. But the obviously build down to a price with budget brakes and suspension of the 400 I'm wondering what you will make of it.
When on their stand i asked them who did the suspension and either they didn't know or weren't telling. The new Himalayan has Showa suspension but Triumphs certainly didn't look like that in the slightest.
I own a '21 - 100% correct regarding the 'mid-grade' master cylinder. Baffles me why Triumph would top-spec the calipers and then partially neuter them with a JJuan MC. I haven't had any issues with heat, including rides in 90+ degrees F. Mostly mitigated the handlebar vibes with BarkBuster bar-end weights. Aside from the extremely high maintenance costs (12K = $1,500 USD...) I really like the bike.
I realy appreciate your unbias and honest reviews. I was looking at this bike but have my doubts. Was also looking at the African Twin ADV Sports manual 2024, but it's not worth the money. The Yami 900 Tracer 900 GT Plus is not a true touring bike, so I am still looking. The Tiger 900 GT Pro and Rally Pro are exactly the same price in NZ.
Those Metzler tyres are just horrible ! Change them for some respected rubber as soon as possible and you will notice a BIG difference in the handling. After experiencing them on my Tiger 800 XRT and a friends identical comments on his 2022 Tiger 900, I will be riding straight to Protyre for some Mitchelin Road 6's !!
Pal, i havent seen for looking, if you have i apologise.... but have you fancied reviewing a Moto Guzzi V85tt Travel? If not, asking for a friend, maybe you need to! I for one second this suggestions, and would appreciate your non-BS review..... ??
Nice review. The gas tank has more information and warning stickers then I've seen so far. Perhaps an advantage if you go to Gibraltar and are bored during the ride - you can read the stickers for an hour or so. I'm sure I'd love the ride quality and acceleration (as I did on my F750GS), but 222 kg is unnecessarily too heavy for me. You could have tried how far you can jump with the Tiger off the cliff. Cheers.
I liked the comfort comparison to the Goldwing. I'm about to switch from a Goldwing to the 900 GT Pro because riding has gotten to be mostly long day rides and 2-up only 10% of the time. At 6'3", the Tiger fit very nicely and the misses liked the rear seat position. I was cross shopping to the Tracer GT+ (found it a bit cramped) and the new Africa Twin (vaporware in the US). Issue in the US is that the Tracer is a unicorn to find at Yamaha dealers and Honda has yet to announce the Africa Twin for the US market (they skipped on the 2023). I've had GS's before but can't see a $10k difference between the 2024 bikes and 105hp will do nicely. Any comparison on the GT Pro to the 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport?
Nice. I haven’t ridden the 2024 Africa Twin yet, but journos on the press launch last week (on the same roads you see in this video) have compared it to the GT Pro.
I am starting to like the TransAlp less and less nowadays. I still cannot unsee the protrusion on the underside. I find it unsettling and the lack of some convenience items notwithstanding, I don't find it a particularly good looking bike. Looks like you need to be on high alert navigating in the Algarve with cliffs to your right and pedestrians to your left. Cheers to you and Mrs. Rocket!
Great review for the new 2024, I think this may be the year I pull the trigger on a Tiger finally. How did Mrs. RM feel about the foot pegs? My fiancée loves how comfortable the seat was on our test ride for the 2023, but the pegs were vibrating her foot/leg asleep after 5 minutes.
This bike loves fuel. I wonder if they improved the jumping up and down of this motorcycle on a smooth road. That was quite annoying. The engine has three cylinders and I expected very smooth operation. Perhaps it is slightly better than in most two-cylinder systems, but the difference is surprisingly small (and large in fuel consumption). You probably really like this aggressively raised exhaust - it looks cool, right? But in order to hang luggage there, you have to either move it away from the motorcycle or specially profile the pannier. That's why Honda 'didn't know this' and placed the exhaust low.
Thank you for this lovely video. I'm unable to decide between the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and the new Africa Twin Adventure Sports in Manual. Hopefully you will test the 2024 Africa Twin and help me make up my mind!
Out of interest, is the 'seat to peg' height taller on the Rally Pro than on the GT Pro? That is where you gain 'leg room' and not on the claimed seat height. I'm a strictly 'black top' rider so off road capabilities don't concern me. I'm currently on a BMW R1200RS and I'm finding the 'seat to peg' height increasing less comfortable as I get older. Enjoy your reviews as always.
Very useful review. I like your narration style. Subscribed. Am a bit surprised about the "no Off-road capability at all" evaluation. I currently ride the 2015 Tiger 800Xrx which in Triumph model logic is the elderly ancestor of the more road-oriented 900GT. I have done a fair bit of "off-tarmac" riding with that. Nothing really technical, but gravel & forest roads etc. Could it be that the street tires make a real evaluation difficult here? Anyway, I agree - for a new bike the Rally Pro would be my choice as well.
Thanks, Jack. Yes, of course, you can take any bike off road - I was just doing some gravel tracks this morning with a friend on a BMW K1600GT - and I dare say the Tiger GT Pro could manage with some beefier tyres, but why not just get the Rally Pro and be done with it? :)
I owned an F900XR when they first came out, but sold it after 5 months because I didn’t gel with it. The Tiger is much more comfortable and has a much pokier engine👍😊
Great review as always. After owning the previous model, still having the vibes is a dealbreaker for a touring bike. Remember, Triumph manufactured the vibes for off road purposes, but this is a road touring machine. Doesn’t make sense. Also, hard to compare with the Transalp with the price difference.
The vibrations have decreased significantly since the first generation, but yes, they're still there unfortunately. Better than the Transalp, however...
Yes riding season is short. It is from may to the end of september. It ia not as cold as it sounds even tough it is 70 degrees north. But I am trying to convice my wife to get a cabin in Portugal. Riding there in winter looks wonderfull.
We have a couple of ‘difficult weeks’ around Christmas and the New Year, but other than that, we can ride pretty much all year round. When we stopped for lunch on the group ride you can see in this video, it was 25C😎
Good review and thanks as always. Nice bike but too expensive and too small for me, 1.90 mt.... I would never change this one over a Transalp. Maybe if I stay on the road all times.....but still if you're cramped with your legs, I cannot imagine myself on a ride like this. Cheers, V.
I sat on the Rally Pro this morning at Triumph Algarve and it's much taller. I could only just flat foot both feet, whereas on the Transalp I can do that easily.
Thanks for a comprehensive review, I find the Tiger range interesting, good design, paint and reliability, however the choice of tyres on both the 900 and 1200 are so restrictive, why does Triumph stick with these odd sized tyres? Enjoy your channel, many thanks.
Absolutely. Long cruises no problem at all, good for commuting and I suppose, yes, if you're only dipping your toe into off-roading, why not. You can take just about any bike off the beaten track from time to time. I was on a group ride a few days ago and a mate in front of me took his BMW K1600GT 2km up a gravelly hill :) Watch out for my video towards the end of the week about the Rally Pro version, though: it's much more viable off road and surprisingly good on it :)
Nice question😊 There were over 50 riders on this particular occasion. I’d say 50% British, 20% German, 20% Dutch and 10% ‘Other’ (French, Swiss, Belgian, Swedish…). I think there are a couple of Portuguese guys, but the club mainly attracts expatriates👍
Road tested triumph tiger and was happy with the issues I had with the previous model dash and more power had been sorted tried Yamaha tracer 9gt love the engine just found the suspension to hard even in softest setting specially on our roads in UK. Ps I think I might see if I can get a 900gt pro and take it on a track day preferably with off road tyres that would be fun 😂 just like I'd take the gt off road 😂
Very good review, covering most of the upgrades I was wondering about. I am thinking of changing my 2021 gt pro for the new one. 3 years is a reasonable time to think about changing? I disagree about the brakes and vibration. I had the old 800, which, although smoother, gave out high pitched vibration, resulting in white finger. The 900 has lower frequency vibration, which doesn’t give me any problems. I also think the stylema brakes are very good. The nissins on the 800 weren't anything like as sensitive or powerful. They also used to bind onde the mud and rain worked their magic! Cheers.
I'm not saying the Stylemas are poor, it's just that I've tried the same disc and calliper setup on the Speed Triple with a better master cylinder and there's a huge improvement. I think if your 900 is 3 years old, then you deserve an upgrade ;)
Here in New Zealand, the Rally Pro is priced the same as the GT Pro. Made going for the Rally an easy choice. That and my desperate need to indulge in some Paris to Dakar cosplay 😂
Very interesting and brutally honest review. The transalp starts to look a really good proposition when compared to considerably more expensive bikes as although its suspension is basic, it does have good electronics (bar the throttle position thingy) and one can always upgrade suspension.
Where did you meet those lads that go with you on group rides? Whenever I see groups riding, they're usually obnoxious guys who are unnecessarily noisy, revving in stoplights, and highly irresponsible regarding safety and community values (if it makes any sense to you). That is the main reason I stick to riding alone, which is great, although I sometimes would like that option (i.e. a group to organise rides with).
It must be, I was going to write «young obnoxious» but I didn't want to sound as one having a prejudice towards this or that generation. I am entering my 40s and I feel closer to guys in their 50s rather than ones in their 20s@@RocketMan_Moto
Ah ok. I am 1.82cm. Usually I notice the brake and clutch levers on bikes to be the same length or sometimes they make the clutch lever longer. But short! I found it really bad and could not ride it for more then half an hour in slow traffic. I enjoyed your video review Thank you! But I do love this new triumph 900. Still hoping to buy one, but they would need to do something about this first. Also the kick stand felt cheap compared to the Suzuki and GS, but nothing can be done about that. 🙏
Hey man! Thanks for the review! I was looking at GT Pro, but still got the new TransAlp (finally). I love the TA, especially its engine. Though for some reason my consumption is above 5l/100km still. Is that because I am still under first 1000 kms? Hope to see you on the road!
Great honest review, nice to see one not done by the press! I have a 2018 Tiger 800, and after riding the 1200 Rally Pro last year, I'm completely sold on that t-plane crank engine, the growl is just something else. Looked at last year's 900, but don't like the angel-wing layout of the display, just looks naff to me. The hotel-marmalade-jar brake fluid reservoir looks cheap too, wondering if anyone makes a cast/milled aluminium version?
For me the Tiger has always been a fantastic road bike. I tried riding the older 800xc model off road. Even with off road biased tyres it just wasn't at home. I dont believe the chassis or engine (traditional triumph triple) suited off road riding. For me I wish Triumph would scrap the cross plane crank and just sell the Tiger as road focussed bike. Because the original triple made it different and for the better. I had no problem riding the "road version" Tiger 800 with its 19" front wheel on gravel roads. And to me that's all the bike needs to do. Adventure bikes have become a fashion statement. Basically if they don't look like they can take on Dakar, then they sort of get written off as a worthy contender. Yet so many riders only use them as road bikes with the occasional dirt road. The KTM 1190R I owned got used as intended. It saw gnarly enduro single track, fast flowing fire trails. But that bike was designed from the start to be an off-road bike. Whereas the Trumpy was designed to be a comfortable, easy to live with road bike. And to me, it's one of the best practical, long-distance touring bikes.
I was particularly interested in your comments regarding the metzeler Tourance tyres. I was considering these as a replacement on my Transalp when the the Karoo's wear out. I'm not so sure now. Were the metzelers the Next or Next2?
@@RocketMan_Moto I agree the Karoo's are very good even in greasy wet conditions. I don't go off-road very often and just thought a 90/10 tyre would be even better.
I get that. I had thought about putting some 100% road tyres on, as if I do go off road it’s only for a few hundred metres, but finding 21 road tyres isn’t easy
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, so if I’m going to have to upgrade the suspension on a Transalp for two up riding it certainly makes price difference much less significant.
It's worth giving the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ a try, as it is in the same price range as the Tiger 900 GT Pro, yet it offers the added benefits of active radar cruise control and an exceptionally spirited engine.
I know the 9GT well, although I haven't tested the +. Tbh, though, as much as I like the engine, it just doesn't have the off-road abilities that I'd like.
I'm holding out for a Yamaha Tenere that boasts a CP3 engine and 20 cm active suspension travel, coupled with 21-inch front wheels. Patience is a virtue, and I'm optimistic that it will pay off in the end (fingers crossed 🙂).@@RocketMan_Moto
@@RocketMan_MotoIn my humble opinion, wrong engine for a tenere, too rampant. Similarly the much much rumoured r9, again cp3 great engine but too flat (relatively) at top end for a sportsbike. Egg on my face potential in that comment, but hey ho.
Great that Triumph released new 900cc tiger range this year. Due to that all dealers nearby where I live are in a hurry to sell older generation bikes. Purchased a previous year Tiger 850 Sport. Yes, the 850 has its minuses, but for that price(and my use case) it beats all the competition. Could not justify the +4-6k eur for the GT PRO (again, for my usage) Main choose was between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Transalp was 1500 eur more, but did not offer many advantages. RocketMan. Thank you for the video. P.S eager to start my new riding season on the Tiger. Unfortunately there is about a 4 month wait till that will happen.
@@pedrosonic id bet my money on the honda in this case. 850 sport really has no upsides if its cost is bigger. In terms of looks they are both similar (and ugly. But thats subjective). But ride em both, se what suits you best.
@@aleksandrskusnirs6259 Thanks for your opinion. I'll use the bike mostly on road, that's why I tend to prefer the Tiger's 19-inch front wheel and its tubeless tires.
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Nothing much to add, except to say: a very enjoyable video with a very useful review on the Tiger! Thank you.
Thank you, glad you found it useful. Thanks for taking the time to watch :)
If I were shopping for a versatile yet sporty touring bike, this would be in the running. If I were set on exploring more dirt, I would sacrifice some long-range comfort for a smaller, lighter machine. Triumph wisely configured the GT.
Yes, it’s nice to have the choice
Hi Rocketman, love your reviews! I suppose we are on geographical opposites as I am a Portuguese guy living in the UK. 😅
I currently own a Tiger Sport 660, and today, I went for an all day test drive with the GT Pro whilst mine was servicing. I must confess I did not love it. Here are some thoughts of things that in my humble personal opinion stood out between the 900 GT Pro vs my Tiger Sport 660. I do 70% of my riding in the city (London) and 30% motorway/a roads and b roads. Would love your feedback, if you have the time of course: on the plus side, comfier, plushier, easier to manoeuvre at city speeds (19 inch wheel), great brakes, feels like a could ride it all day. Down side: uglier than the 660 (personal opinion), would love a spoke wheels option and all those stickers in the paint, some of them lacquered like the 900, just don’t agree with me, engine sounds a bit like a tractor, felt a bit of disconnect/directness in throttle response, disappointed with the torque (though it would have a bit more response), the vibes through the pegs are just awful at city speeds of 20/30mph (around 3000 rpm). Still feeling the tingling on n my feet. There are other few niggles that are more personal taste than anything but all in all, very disappointed with a bike that would cost my current motorbike (which is 2 years old and valued at about 6k) plus another 9k to buy. I personally wouldn’t go for the Rally (which I love the design) or the 1200. Both too big for the amount of city riding I do.
Thanks for reading!
Kind Regards,
Antonio
Thanks for your input. I wonder if it’s not a question of size? I’m 187cm and 95kg and so I find the 660 a bit lightweight for me.
very , very good review ,,,
Thank you, Simon :)
I've had a Gt Pro for 3 years and would disagree with you on its ability for the occasional gravel / dirt road, grass field and firm sandy beach.. Set it in off road mode, a set of 70/30 tyres and away you go.. great fun... At 5ft 10 the geometry suits me very well and i love the electronic rear suspension ie put it in sport mode and it automatically stiffenes the dampness with the ability to fine tune.. semi active would describe it.. After 40+ years of messing about with "C" spanners this system suits me very nicely..
Love the versatility of this bike and thats why i have orderd the new one
Thanks for your feedback. Enjoy your new bike :)
Nice..had the previous version in rally pro …absolutely a brilliant bike ..had to sell it after 3 months and 3k miles as the vibes were killing me (hands) a bike I honestly was very upset to let go ..
Yes, they have improved the vibrations to a level that I would now be happy with. Not perfect, but acceptable. Better than my Transalp, for example. Thanks for your feedback :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I have seen a video where Sport Mode gets rid of the vibrations.
Reviews on bikes can be so subjective. Today i had the opportunity to test ride both the Triumph Tiger 2024 Rally & the GT. Both are great bikes! Being 5" 7" tall I found the Rally just a tad challenging because of it's 860cm lowest seat height. Just on the balls of my feet. Especially when stopping on gravel roads with uneven terrain. Although i loved riding it. However, I found the GT Pro perfect for my height and an absolute gem to ride on tarmac and totally capable on gravel roads if you have no intentions of going further off road. I loved the 2024 GT Pro so much I bought one. Put a bash plate & lower engine guard on for my gravel travel. Will wear out the road tyres already on, then replace with 70/30's
Great choice, Paul. Enjoy!
check out the review of the 900 GT PRO on the MCNews channel. He (Wayne) shows some impressive off road riding on it.
Iam planning to buy 900, not Knowing differences between GT and GT Pro, your video helped me a lot, thanks a lot for valuable information,I will buy 900 GT Pro.
Glad you found it helpful. The Pro has more toys and will be easier to resell in a few years👍😊
I have watched more than a couple of your moto’cicle reviews & have consistently come away with the opinion that this is a reviewer who offers a well thought out and comprehensive assessment of a particular product…and does so with high-style, class & panache…it’s obvious that you put great effort into your videos-MANY THANKS‼️
I own a variety of motorbikes, including a 2022 Triumph 900GT with extensive modifications-and LOVE IT❗️ And at 67 years of age, I can still mount my bikes without the assistance of a mini-trampoline😏
Look forward to viewing new content as you release it on TH-cam👍
Thanks for that, Ben. Much appreciated😊👍
I did own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very well made, comfy and good bike on paper but, in my opinion, a very dull engine. Also it did have a weird vibration when riding at more than 100km/h. I ended up trading it just 6 months later for a Tracer 900.
Anyway, I'm happy to hear they have addressed some of the initial, if not all, complaints people had with the first generation.
I agree that the first generation lacked sparkle, but this new one is better. The CP3 engine is in a different league, though. Thanks for your input, David :)
Very comprehensive.
But expensive.
And as they get so big the more unmanageable they become.
I really believe small, manageable bikes you can take anywhere are the answer, for me at least. New 400 scrambler looks great. Rumours are Rally Raid might do some work on one. Perfect.
Nice to have the choice.
Ride safe 👍
Agreed, the price is the main sticking point for me. 60% more than the Transalp!
Just to add to what I mentioned in my last comments. For the trip home soon after buying my GT Pro I made a detour to a gravel road of about 15kms. Your thoughts about the GT's capabilities on gravel/dirt roads was less than positive. I just want to rectify some of your comments. I guess your height of 6' 2" had a lot to do with it. I'm 5' 7" and I found the bike, still with road tires, and in off road mode handled very well on the gravel road i traveled. The GT is totally capable of some spirited gravel riding! Once I wear out the road tyres it will be even better with a set of 70/30 tires. Of course the Rally Pro is more capable in tougher terrain. For those of us that find the Rally seat height a tad challenging, the GT Pro is more than capable of handling gravel roads! Although I wouldn't venture beyond that, whereas the Rally could!
Fair enough, thanks for your input. You can go off-road on any bike if you really want. I followed a friend up a steep rocky path a few weeks ago and he was on his BMW K1600 GTL, lol. I personally found the GT Pro less suited to off-road duties than I had been expecting, but you are doubtless far more competent off the asphalt than I am :)
I've never been a fan of quickshifts but the one on the 900GT is just amazing it is hugely fun and put a silly grin on my face. I didn't notice any heat issues on an Australian summer day. Yeah the screen isn't great it would need to be changed.
Yes, there's witchcraft in that shifter!
I have the just superseded model. I find the screen ok. I fitted larger "wings" from Puig that made a big difference.
Interesting. I did get the feeling that the standard wins were a bit on the small side.
@MaverickAus. Hey Mate. Where in Oz are you? In in Qld and seriously considering a GT Pro. Some have reported that the 2024 model pushes the heat away better so may wait until they are in stock up here.
@@kevinroberts2395 Coffs Harbour
Great review. Thought the same when I had an old gen 900 Tiger, though i found the engine too whiney compared to an off beat twin, Transalp still top of my ly list, just waiting for your review of the cruise control. Please 🙏
Thanks. Last time I spoke to the cruise control people, they said they'd be ready to send me one 'end of January'. Fingers crossed.
Nice "quick" test and very useful. In general I like the Triumph triple engines and appreciate the updated Tiger 900 for it's better look, upgraded engine, better dash.
But if I were in the market for a road focused adventure bike I'd go for the Vstrom 800 (RE) and have some 5k€ left for after market accessories over the Tiger.
Price is the main issue, I agree
Brought 1 interested to see how much better it will be compared to my 2023 gt pro
The improvements are palpable👍😊
I have the 2022 1200 Explorer - fabulous bike! 20,000 miles in and the only complaint is the lack of choice of tyres - I agree with you with those Metzeler tyres! You get used to them but I do much prefer Dunlop rubber. I'm the same height as you, it fits perfectly. But it is not my perfect bike, that is my Rocket 3 TFC, but it is almost as good. Tried the 900, great bike but the 1200 Tiger beats all others in the adventure segment for me.
I will be in Portugal/Spain/North Africa in late spring, will see how those Metzelers perform in the sand 😲
Wow, nice garage you have there :)
Do you have a guess about when they'll launch a Tiger 400? That's what I want.
Well, the Scrambler 400X in green is more or less sold out in Europe for the foreseeable future. I would imagine that if the 2 existing 400s prove this popular in the long term, they will be offering different variations on the same chassis. I have no firm info yet, however.
Another wonderful review. Thanks so much for the effort you put into these, Mr. Grip-Angle!
Lol, thank you :)
I have an 800 tiger and engine heat is not an issue providing temps are lower than 25C. Anything above that and engine heat is severe. Will not be testing the 900 until mid summer here in Aus.
Thanks for your input👍😊
Fantastic review 👏 extremely informative.
Very Professional.
You sound like James May 😅 Top Gear
Excellent TV voice.
Thank You.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it :)
You’re definitely not Captain Slow 😂
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Maybe the sweet spot between the Transalp and spending real money going to a 1300GS, but I would expect for the prize to have at least keyless and a blind spot detector. These " more known " brands really need to pay attention to what's coming from China makers. Same goes for the new Africa Twin.
I agree. The Tiger makes more sense than the GS in my book :)
@@PovilasPanavas , I really understand your thoughts, I was in the same position, a few months back I've tried a CFMoto and when changing lane I received a warning, after looking to my left there was a Vespa coming from nowhere and I didn't saw it on the mirror.
Did you select "Off Road " mode on the gravel road? It winds the preload down on the rear shock. Makes the bike lower and more stable offroad. If doing a long distance off road you should back off the compression and rebound on the front shocks. I've done a quite a few gravel roads on my Tiger configured this way with full luggage.
I did try off-road mode, yes, and I agree it was less lairy than Sport. Have you put different tyres on? I found the Metzelers seemed to be the biggest handicap.
Bar risers fix the problem, l love the Tiger!
Annoying to have to solve a problem when you buy a new bike, though. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto they feel fine to me. If you want to make everyone happy, don't make motorcycles, give away ice cream. Lol
@@neilcole3406 What risers did you use?
It’s always on the left knee not the right? Miserable in summer with gear on but that one shortcoming I can handle. The tiger 9 is the easiest bike I’ve ever ridden. Made it a little boring for me.? Leaves you thinking your a better rider than you actually are.
Very nice bike. I ended up buying the Rally Pro👍😊
Good review thanks. Such a shame that the Rallye Pro is Sidney Sweeney and the GT Pro is Oilve from on the buses. But I don't go offroad or want a 21" front wheel and knobblys. Cheers
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Good review, but I gotta take issue with a part of it. If you want to go faster and you've run out of revs, you don't need more power, you need to shift up a gear.
I reckon this thing would do 130 mph or so. If you're going that fast regularly, you'll either lose you license or life before long. These lanky bikes were never meant for that anyway. I hit a pothole on the interstate once on a Versys 1000 at 90 mph and it went into what I thought was going to be a life ending tank slapper. And these things get worse when you start hanging ginormous metal boxes all over them. Not exactly aerodynamic.
That said, if they'd paint one of these like the red Aragon and stop burying useful shit like the odometer under menus, I could be a buyer.
The odometer thing is super annoying. Thanks for your input.
I agree about the tyres.I think they are rubbish particularly in the wet. A set of Road 6's makes a big difference
Yes, disappointing
The Tiger 900 gt pro is so much better than that honda transalp 750, looks better too.
I agree. But it comes at a price😉
They could get rid of the vibrations by ditching the God awful T-Plane crank
Yes, I’m not entirely convinced of the benefits either
You’re absolutely right!
And pickup power at same time 💪🗣️
Yea strange move by triumph, who ever complained the 120 degree crank lacked character. It's what makes triples stand out.
@@Grahamvfr Exactly! They did it for wheel speed control, it acts like Traction control, but it does not make more power.
If you had to pick between this and the Tracer 9GT+, which would you go for???
Tiger (I bought the Rally Pro 2 months ago). The Tracer has a fabulous engine, but fit & finish is poor, it looks a bit odd and the windscreen is useless
Triumph tiger brilliant bikes cool review 😎..👍🇮🇪
Thanks, Gerry :)
waiting for your stelvio/Mandelo review.
As soon as my dealer gets a demo bike🤞
Great review, you cover so many aspects of the bike.. brilliant
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it😊
I sold my 2019 Tracer 900 GT to move to a new 2024 Tiger Rally Pro can't wait to see the difference in power.
The 2024 Tiger is better than the first generation, but it’s quite a bit down on the Tracer 9
I wanted more off road. I loved the tracer was fantastic bike with zero issues. If Yamaha had a competitor to the tiger 900 rally pro I most likely would have stuck with Yamaha. I don't need all the HP of the tracer for off roading
Nice video, is a good bike for commuting honestly? daily use (comfortable) and weekend touring, of perhaps recreation purpose? this is better than ktm 890 for my purpose ? I only drive on public roads/highways... it is wise to jump from naked bike to this touring/Adventure for daily use.
Any way great video
Be safe
Thanks. If anything, a Tiger 900 is possibly too nice to commute on, but for touring & weekend rides, it’s pretty much perfect. And more comfortable than a KTM.
Thanks for respons & massage ❤
I'm looking forward to your review on the Triumph 400. You wax lyrical, and rightly so, about the build quality on the 900 and your speed twin but at that price it's to be expected. But the obviously build down to a price with budget brakes and suspension of the 400 I'm wondering what you will make of it.
I think we're all wondering that, Ian. The 400s look fabulous from a distance, but I've seen some worrying reports from owners in India...
When on their stand i asked them who did the suspension and either they didn't know or weren't telling. The new Himalayan has Showa suspension but Triumphs certainly didn't look like that in the slightest.
This is the problem
Which one u like the most translap or 900 gt?
Well, I sold my Transalp for a Tiger 900 Rally Pro 3 months ago and don’t regret it at all😊
I own a '21 - 100% correct regarding the 'mid-grade' master cylinder. Baffles me why Triumph would top-spec the calipers and then partially neuter them with a JJuan MC. I haven't had any issues with heat, including rides in 90+ degrees F. Mostly mitigated the handlebar vibes with BarkBuster bar-end weights. Aside from the extremely high maintenance costs (12K = $1,500 USD...) I really like the bike.
Wow, that’s a shockingly high bill🤨
I realy appreciate your unbias and honest reviews. I was looking at this bike but have my doubts. Was also looking at the African Twin ADV Sports manual 2024, but it's not worth the money. The Yami 900 Tracer 900 GT Plus is not a true touring bike, so I am still looking. The Tiger 900 GT Pro and Rally Pro are exactly the same price in NZ.
You may have seen that I ended up buying a Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Very happy with it so far :)
Those Metzler tyres are just horrible ! Change them for some respected rubber as soon as possible and you will notice a BIG difference in the handling. After experiencing them on my Tiger 800 XRT and a friends identical comments on his 2022 Tiger 900, I will be riding straight to Protyre for some Mitchelin Road 6's !!
I agree Road 6s are great, although not much good off road… I guess the clue’s in the name😊
Pal, i havent seen for looking, if you have i apologise.... but have you fancied reviewing a Moto Guzzi V85tt Travel? If not, asking for a friend, maybe you need to! I for one second this suggestions, and would appreciate your non-BS review..... ??
I would love to, but the only Guzzi dealer in the Algarve is pretty hopeless and never has demo bikes🙁
Nice review. The gas tank has more information and warning stickers then I've seen so far. Perhaps an advantage if you go to Gibraltar and are bored during the ride - you can read the stickers for an hour or so. I'm sure I'd love the ride quality and acceleration (as I did on my F750GS), but 222 kg is unnecessarily too heavy for me. You could have tried how far you can jump with the Tiger off the cliff. Cheers.
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I liked the comfort comparison to the Goldwing. I'm about to switch from a Goldwing to the 900 GT Pro because riding has gotten to be mostly long day rides and 2-up only 10% of the time. At 6'3", the Tiger fit very nicely and the misses liked the rear seat position. I was cross shopping to the Tracer GT+ (found it a bit cramped) and the new Africa Twin (vaporware in the US). Issue in the US is that the Tracer is a unicorn to find at Yamaha dealers and Honda has yet to announce the Africa Twin for the US market (they skipped on the 2023). I've had GS's before but can't see a $10k difference between the 2024 bikes and 105hp will do nicely. Any comparison on the GT Pro to the 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport?
Nice. I haven’t ridden the 2024 Africa Twin yet, but journos on the press launch last week (on the same roads you see in this video) have compared it to the GT Pro.
I am starting to like the TransAlp less and less nowadays. I still cannot unsee the protrusion on the underside. I find it unsettling and the lack of some convenience items notwithstanding, I don't find it a particularly good looking bike. Looks like you need to be on high alert navigating in the Algarve with cliffs to your right and pedestrians to your left. Cheers to you and Mrs. Rocket!
I don’t regret changing for the Tiger 900. Cheers👍😊
Great review for the new 2024, I think this may be the year I pull the trigger on a Tiger finally.
How did Mrs. RM feel about the foot pegs? My fiancée loves how comfortable the seat was on our test ride for the 2023, but the pegs were vibrating her foot/leg asleep after 5 minutes.
She didn’t mention anything at the time. Just said it was one of the most comfortable bikes she’d been on.
This bike loves fuel. I wonder if they improved the jumping up and down of this motorcycle on a smooth road. That was quite annoying. The engine has three cylinders and I expected very smooth operation. Perhaps it is slightly better than in most two-cylinder systems, but the difference is surprisingly small (and large in fuel consumption).
You probably really like this aggressively raised exhaust - it looks cool, right? But in order to hang luggage there, you have to either move it away from the motorcycle or specially profile the pannier. That's why Honda 'didn't know this' and placed the exhaust low.
The engine is now very smooth, much better than gen 1, but I agree that the unnecessarily high exhaust (for a tourer) limits luggage options.
Thank you for this lovely video. I'm unable to decide between the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and the new Africa Twin Adventure Sports in Manual.
Hopefully you will test the 2024 Africa Twin and help me make up my mind!
I’d like to, but my Honda dealer doesn’t have any dates yet🙏😊
Out of interest, is the 'seat to peg' height taller on the Rally Pro than on the GT Pro? That is where you gain 'leg room' and not on the claimed seat height. I'm a strictly 'black top' rider so off road capabilities don't concern me. I'm currently on a BMW R1200RS and I'm finding the 'seat to peg' height increasing less comfortable as I get older. Enjoy your reviews as always.
Thanks, Kevin. The Rally certainly felt more roomy when I sat on it yesterday👍😊
Very useful review. I like your narration style. Subscribed.
Am a bit surprised about the "no Off-road capability at all" evaluation. I currently ride the 2015 Tiger 800Xrx which in Triumph model logic is the elderly ancestor of the more road-oriented 900GT. I have done a fair bit of "off-tarmac" riding with that. Nothing really technical, but gravel & forest roads etc. Could it be that the street tires make a real evaluation difficult here?
Anyway, I agree - for a new bike the Rally Pro would be my choice as well.
Thanks, Jack. Yes, of course, you can take any bike off road - I was just doing some gravel tracks this morning with a friend on a BMW K1600GT - and I dare say the Tiger GT Pro could manage with some beefier tyres, but why not just get the Rally Pro and be done with it? :)
Would love you to compare this with F900XR. I am currently on F900XR and very much interested in this Tiger as an alternative. Cheers, thanks!
I owned an F900XR when they first came out, but sold it after 5 months because I didn’t gel with it. The Tiger is much more comfortable and has a much pokier engine👍😊
Great review as always. After owning the previous model, still having the vibes is a dealbreaker for a touring bike. Remember, Triumph manufactured the vibes for off road purposes, but this is a road touring machine. Doesn’t make sense.
Also, hard to compare with the Transalp with the price difference.
The vibrations have decreased significantly since the first generation, but yes, they're still there unfortunately. Better than the Transalp, however...
Great review. I bought the 2024 rally pro. So I am looking forward to the riding season.
I had a sit on a Rally Pro at Triumph Algarve this morning and it suits me much better than the GT. Have you taken delivery of yours yet?
No I live in the arctic. So I am going south to pick it up in april. And drive in the south untill spring comes to the arctic.@@RocketMan_Moto
Wow, the riding season must be very short, but I guess you have super long days in the summer👍
Yes riding season is short. It is from may to the end of september. It ia not as cold as it sounds even tough it is 70 degrees north. But I am trying to convice my wife to get a cabin in Portugal. Riding there in winter looks wonderfull.
We have a couple of ‘difficult weeks’ around Christmas and the New Year, but other than that, we can ride pretty much all year round. When we stopped for lunch on the group ride you can see in this video, it was 25C😎
Good review and thanks as always. Nice bike but too expensive and too small for me, 1.90 mt....
I would never change this one over a Transalp. Maybe if I stay on the road all times.....but still if you're cramped with your legs, I cannot imagine myself on a ride like this.
Cheers, V.
I sat on the Rally Pro this morning at Triumph Algarve and it's much taller. I could only just flat foot both feet, whereas on the Transalp I can do that easily.
Thanks for a comprehensive review, I find the Tiger range interesting, good design, paint and reliability, however the choice of tyres on both the 900 and 1200 are so restrictive, why does Triumph stick with these odd sized tyres? Enjoy your channel, many thanks.
Thanks. Good point about the tyres👍
would you say this bike is ok for mostly city commuting, some long (350km) rides on the highway and maybe some extremely rare offroad trails?
Absolutely. Long cruises no problem at all, good for commuting and I suppose, yes, if you're only dipping your toe into off-roading, why not. You can take just about any bike off the beaten track from time to time. I was on a group ride a few days ago and a mate in front of me took his BMW K1600GT 2km up a gravelly hill :) Watch out for my video towards the end of the week about the Rally Pro version, though: it's much more viable off road and surprisingly good on it :)
Odd other people have taken the GT Pro off road and say it can do a bit of off road.
Maybe I’m just too tall
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah that wouldn't help. I'm too short and the Rally Pro isn't an option 😒
Think this is my next move away from my GS1200 these seem a nice bike, just need to research servicing cost
I’m very pleased with my Rally Pro👍
On the ride outs, what would be the spread of nationalities riding with you roughly please? Must make living there 'the icing on the ...'!
Nice question😊 There were over 50 riders on this particular occasion. I’d say 50% British, 20% German, 20% Dutch and 10% ‘Other’ (French, Swiss, Belgian, Swedish…). I think there are a couple of Portuguese guys, but the club mainly attracts expatriates👍
The reason it understeers is because of the 24.6 degrees of rake!
Yes, even more disturbing on the Rally Pro, although I’ve kind of got used to it now
@@RocketMan_Moto so what is this in pratical terms? do you not lean as much as you would like?
Great bike. I have the 23 GT Pro.. unfortunately it Lacks power and seat is uncomfortable
Yes, I found the 2021 model a bit lacklustre, but the new bike is punchier and the seat has also been improved.
Road tested triumph tiger and was happy with the issues I had with the previous model dash and more power had been sorted tried Yamaha tracer 9gt love the engine just found the suspension to hard even in softest setting specially on our roads in UK. Ps I think I might see if I can get a 900gt pro and take it on a track day preferably with off road tyres that would be fun 😂 just like I'd take the gt off road 😂
The Yamaha’s finish also lets it down, imo. Not to mention the ‘unique’ looks… Thanks for your input👍😊
Wish my son would buy me a GoPro
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Very good review, covering most of the upgrades I was wondering about. I am thinking of changing my 2021 gt pro for the new one. 3 years is a reasonable time to think about changing? I disagree about the brakes and vibration. I had the old 800, which, although smoother, gave out high pitched vibration, resulting in white finger. The 900 has lower frequency vibration, which doesn’t give me any problems. I also think the stylema brakes are very good. The nissins on the 800 weren't anything like as sensitive or powerful. They also used to bind onde the mud and rain worked their magic! Cheers.
I'm not saying the Stylemas are poor, it's just that I've tried the same disc and calliper setup on the Speed Triple with a better master cylinder and there's a huge improvement. I think if your 900 is 3 years old, then you deserve an upgrade ;)
Here in New Zealand, the Rally Pro is priced the same as the GT Pro. Made going for the Rally an easy choice. That and my desperate need to indulge in some Paris to Dakar cosplay 😂
Nice! The Rally Pro definitely looks the part👍
Triumph dont seem to be able to get this bike quite right.
They got it right enough for me to buy a Rally Pro😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Enjoy but the GT Pro vibrates badly at the footpegs.
Never heard anybody say that the previous generation's engine power was lackluster...
Welcome to RocketMan😉
Been waiting for this one😀
Enjoy👍😊
Your helmet shots with the new GoPro were better than all your previous helmet shots XD Just saying ;)
I agree. Much nicer quality now😊
We’re not all 6ft + tall to have the rally 900,if we were lots of us would have the choice of the 1200 tiger also,
Yes🤔
Very interesting and brutally honest review. The transalp starts to look a really good proposition when compared to considerably more expensive bikes as although its suspension is basic, it does have good electronics (bar the throttle position thingy) and one can always upgrade suspension.
I agree. My Transalp is proving difficult to replace😉
This road reminds me the one Triumph used for a press-launch earlier in December :) But I might be wrong. Great review as usual!
Thanks, Sergey😊 Several manufacturers use this area (Faro) for their press launches, especially in winter ☀️
Where did you meet those lads that go with you on group rides?
Whenever I see groups riding, they're usually obnoxious guys who are unnecessarily noisy, revving in stoplights, and highly irresponsible regarding safety and community values (if it makes any sense to you).
That is the main reason I stick to riding alone, which is great, although I sometimes would like that option (i.e. a group to organise rides with).
Probably a question of age? All the moto guys I know are 50+ 😉
It must be, I was going to write «young obnoxious» but I didn't want to sound as one having a prejudice towards this or that generation. I am entering my 40s and I feel closer to guys in their 50s rather than ones in their 20s@@RocketMan_Moto
Great video as usual, just a note, i think theres a storage with usb below the passenger seat.
Thanks. Yes, there’s a small box to keep a phone in👍
Big mistake I think making it with a very short clutch lever!! Why Triumph?! Only bike I have every ridden in 50 years, with a small lever
I can’t say I noticed that
Ah ok. I am 1.82cm. Usually I notice the brake and clutch levers on bikes to be the same length or sometimes they make the clutch lever longer. But short! I found it really bad and could not ride it for more then half an hour in slow traffic. I enjoyed your video review Thank you! But I do love this new triumph 900. Still hoping to buy one, but they would need to do something about this first. Also the kick stand felt cheap compared to the Suzuki and GS, but nothing can be done about that. 🙏
As ever very watchable review, and great attention to the details that matter.. Stabby keys I love it haha. 😊
More than my thighs did... Thanks, Graham :)
I’ve listened to many but your analyses are superior!
Thank you😊
Hey man! Thanks for the review! I was looking at GT Pro, but still got the new TransAlp (finally). I love the TA, especially its engine. Though for some reason my consumption is above 5l/100km still. Is that because I am still under first 1000 kms?
Hope to see you on the road!
5 seems high, but yes, it could be because you haven't completely loosened up the engine. On a gentle run, I have seen mine drop as low as 3.6
Price, looks, Honda reliability & dealer network. The Transalp has had some bad press, but I think it’s a decent bike, especially for the money.
Great honest review, nice to see one not done by the press! I have a 2018 Tiger 800, and after riding the 1200 Rally Pro last year, I'm completely sold on that t-plane crank engine, the growl is just something else. Looked at last year's 900, but don't like the angel-wing layout of the display, just looks naff to me. The hotel-marmalade-jar brake fluid reservoir looks cheap too, wondering if anyone makes a cast/milled aluminium version?
Lol, hôtel marmelade… I’ll use that😂 I’m sure an anodised version, like the one on my Speed Twin, could be made to work👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Please do, it's the closest description I could think of 🙂
Love it👍😂
For me the Tiger has always been a fantastic road bike. I tried riding the older 800xc model off road. Even with off road biased tyres it just wasn't at home. I dont believe the chassis or engine (traditional triumph triple) suited off road riding. For me I wish Triumph would scrap the cross plane crank and just sell the Tiger as road focussed bike. Because the original triple made it different and for the better. I had no problem riding the "road version" Tiger 800 with its 19" front wheel on gravel roads. And to me that's all the bike needs to do. Adventure bikes have become a fashion statement. Basically if they don't look like they can take on Dakar, then they sort of get written off as a worthy contender. Yet so many riders only use them as road bikes with the occasional dirt road.
The KTM 1190R I owned got used as intended. It saw gnarly enduro single track, fast flowing fire trails. But that bike was designed from the start to be an off-road bike. Whereas the Trumpy was designed to be a comfortable, easy to live with road bike. And to me, it's one of the best practical, long-distance touring bikes.
Thanks for your feedback :)
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Thank you for all your detailed and quality content.
It’s a pleasure (usually😉)
Good one , once again …considering the tiger or the Africa twin L manual
I quite fancy hanging on to see if they'll bring out an eClutch AT for 2025? My dealer had no info when I enquired yesterday, however.
Great review
Thank you :)
Awesome video! I bet the triple sounds wonderful. It is a beautiful bike for sure. Best!
Thanks. The sound was nothing special, tbh, which is probably why I forgot to mention it😬
Helmet in the shot is nothing to be sorry for - it looks very 👍
Good to know😊👍
I was particularly interested in your comments regarding the metzeler Tourance tyres. I was considering these as a replacement on my Transalp when the the Karoo's wear out. I'm not so sure now. Were the metzelers the Next or Next2?
Next 1, I think. I certainly wouldn't put them on my Transalp. I find the Karoos significantly better on and off road.
@@RocketMan_Moto I agree the Karoo's are very good even in greasy wet conditions. I don't go off-road very often and just thought a 90/10 tyre would be even better.
I get that. I had thought about putting some 100% road tyres on, as if I do go off road it’s only for a few hundred metres, but finding 21 road tyres isn’t easy
4 years since your XR… blimey, how long have I been a subscriber 😮
I know. Where does the time go?😊
Having a key fob in my pocket is good enough for me, don't need and old keyed ignition.
I have keyless on my scooter and love the convenience👍
@@RocketMan_Moto I have it in a Honda
CR-V and love it too, especially handy at fuel stations.
I would be interested to know how the suspension performs with a pillion and fully loaded compared to the Transalp.
I only tried the Tiger with Mrs RM (no luggage), but there's much more preload compared to what's available on the Transalp
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, so if I’m going to have to upgrade the suspension on a Transalp for two up riding it certainly makes price difference much less significant.
I’d say so
First word problems cracked me up 😂
Damned spikey key ;)
how does the passenger seat feel on the rally pro ?
I haven’t tried it but Mrs RM reports it’s one of the most comfortable pillion seats she’s tried on any bike
It's worth giving the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ a try, as it is in the same price range as the Tiger 900 GT Pro, yet it offers the added benefits of active radar cruise control and an exceptionally spirited engine.
I know the 9GT well, although I haven't tested the +. Tbh, though, as much as I like the engine, it just doesn't have the off-road abilities that I'd like.
I'm holding out for a Yamaha Tenere that boasts a CP3 engine and 20 cm active suspension travel, coupled with 21-inch front wheels. Patience is a virtue, and I'm optimistic that it will pay off in the end (fingers crossed 🙂).@@RocketMan_Moto
A Tenere 900 would be a big hit. Can’t really understand what’s taking Yamaha so long🤔
@@RocketMan_MotoIn my humble opinion, wrong engine for a tenere, too rampant. Similarly the much much rumoured r9, again cp3 great engine but too flat (relatively) at top end for a sportsbike. Egg on my face potential in that comment, but hey ho.
Excellent review of a very tempting bike,thanks
Thanks, Martin😊👍
Great that Triumph released new 900cc tiger range this year. Due to that all dealers nearby where I live are in a hurry to sell older generation bikes. Purchased a previous year Tiger 850 Sport. Yes, the 850 has its minuses, but for that price(and my use case) it beats all the competition. Could not justify the +4-6k eur for the GT PRO (again, for my usage) Main choose was between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Transalp was 1500 eur more, but did not offer many advantages.
RocketMan. Thank you for the video.
P.S eager to start my new riding season on the Tiger. Unfortunately there is about a 4 month wait till that will happen.
Triumph Algarve has a bunch of previous generation Tiger 900s, too. I think the main advantage of the Transalp is its off-road ability
I'm hesitating between Transalp and the 850 Sport. Here in Spain the 850 is 1300 euros more expensive than the Transalp.
@@pedrosonic id bet my money on the honda in this case. 850 sport really has no upsides if its cost is bigger. In terms of looks they are both similar (and ugly. But thats subjective). But ride em both, se what suits you best.
@@aleksandrskusnirs6259 Thanks for your opinion. I'll use the bike mostly on road, that's why I tend to prefer the Tiger's 19-inch front wheel and its tubeless tires.
Good review. My favourite Triumph is the new Scrambler 1200 X.
Love the looks, but that high exhaust would worry me for the hot summers here ;)
@@RocketMan_Moto True.
Great test thank you. Never get tired of looking at that beautiful ocean 🌊
Thanks, Steve. It certainly is beautiful😊
Nice bike. Thanks for the video. Lovely weather ☀️
Thanks, Bruno. Yes, spring seems to have arrived :)
10:36 yes please test it in the summer
I have bought the Rally Pro now. Will that do?😊
so ,is it better than the transalp ?
Not better, but nicer
'Rolling sofas'.. haha..
One of the most comfortable bikes I’ve ridden😊