Full video of my new lat pull low row machine by Texas Strength Systems. They make their own gym equipment for their facility and yours. Check them out on instagram as well.
I've never had the opportunity to use TSS equipment but it all looks really solid. I've got the plate loaded lat pulldown/low row from XMark - I really like it. It's definitely not as beefy as yours but for being one of the cheaper bolt-together designs, I think it's great and addresses the stability and leverage issues you mention.
I will never ever get this machine, but I watched your review anyway. You did a damn nice review and I got some inside into a quality product. Thank you
@@azuwhr Living in Europe... so shipping this stuff over is not feasible. Also, I tend to include items in my homegym that I don't have access to in my commercial gym. The gym I go to has no GHD, Reverse Hyper, Monolift... so that's the stuff I have in my homegym.
I would say anything for your back, biceps and triceps. If your really creative all the muscles. Think of it as a half functional trainer as well as a lat pull low row.
Great video, I appreciate the review. Texas Strength Systems is not as well known as rogue or any of the other name brand gym equipment companies but their products are just as rock solid. I purchased one of their 3x3 power racks and it is mostly welded and is a tank. Great job.
Wow, great video. Thank you. I am considering buying this - like you said, I too intend to use this primarily for low row and lat pull downs.However, I want to ask how this piece of equipment performs for any tricep pulldown and bicep curl/upwards pulling movement? Does the bench seat get in the way of the cables during these movements? If so, are the bench and foot rests removable to prevent this? I'm essentially trying to assess how versatile it can be - I really want to find a low row/pulldown machine that I can also perform accessory cable lifts on. Thank you! Hope you read.
Works great for triceps push downs or reverse push down. When I do bicep curls on it I’ll sit down and use the foot rest and do a seated bicep curl on the floor. The seat does remove just like the knee rest. So if you think it gets in the way you could always take it off if you want to stand up and do bicep curls. The piece is pretty solid so it shouldn’t move at all when you do that but honestly I would say I would do the bicep curls seated more so. You could also do side raises for shoulder exercises, standing lat pull downs or even single chest flies. The machine is very versatile. I hope that works out for you and helps. Thanks again for watching I appreciate the feedback
thanks for the review. I have never used a plate-loaded lat pulldown. Is there a different sensation when using it than weight-stack machines offer? I guess what I mean does it feel as smooth and equal distribution of weight throughout the movement. Thanks!
G3, great review, as always. May I ask do you ever try using the pull down for tricep work and the low for standing biceps? Is it even possible or does the seat just get in the way? Just trying to ascertain the versatility of this. I will be getting a rack shortly, as well as a pull down (side note, I have back problems, too, but the Rogue Rhino is a little out of my league. 😉). Thank you in advance for your response.
Yeah tricep work is no problem at all. Two arm, one arm no issues at all. For biceps you can do them standing or seated. This machine doesn’t move when you use it. It’s small footprint is deceiving but it’s solid.
Thanks for this review! Had never heard of these guys before. Do you know how heavy the unit is? You mentioned you got a plate-loaded variant to make it less stressful to move around when necessary (instead of a weight stack version).
Do you find the origin point for this TSS low row set up being too low? In low row machines I've seen at commercial gyms, the origin point is maybe a foot higher than in this TSS set up - in a way that the arms are nearly horizontal when extended, rather than pointing down like in this set up. I'm wondering if the muscle recruitment would be different as a result? Have you noticed this?
this is a nice 1200 dollar lat machine. Was the lat/low row system from Rogue an option you had looked into as part of your decision to go with a stand-alone system?
Yeah I looked at a lot of them but Rogue only has a pin loaded option and for a garage gym that wouldn’t work for me. Theirs is to tall for my ceiling and I want to be able to move it around the gym if needed. Rogues is 600 plus lbs and I don’t know how I would get that into my gym. I looked at Titan but I wanted one that was welded together not bolted together.
Yeah I did but Rogue is double if not more then what I paid and it’s to tall for my garage. Also Rogue comes in one piece and weights 600 lbs. not sure how I would be it moved around. I wanted plate loaded so getting it in the gym and moving it around wouldn’t be a nightmare. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video. Question: Can you describe again how it was shipped ? Was the main piece all together and the other pieces in Red plus the seat and foot plate and weight holders separate? I am asking because I have to get it up to the 8 floor of my apartment building in an elevator. What’s the weight of the main piece that comes all together?
It all came in one big crate. The main frame is one welded piece and I can lift it by myself but it’s awkward to carry. The other pieces come in the same crate but not attached. Not sure the actual weight on the main frame though.
It took 4 months for mine last year. Everything is taking forever due to Covid. Took 2 and half months for my Fray T Bar Row machine. I ordered a preacher curl 3 months ago and had to cancel it because it was taking way longer then expected. I have a bar from Synergee that I ordered and won’t come in till June.
@@azuwhr I live in New Jersey and I’m tired of hearing the Covid excuses. Here in NJ we were the second to NY and the country in the hardest hit with COVID and we are up and running. I may but a Xmark lat low row now and order the Texas one and if the Xmark is good as people say it’s good , it gets 4.8 stars ⭐️ on Amazon and good reviews. I don’t see any videos other than yours on the Texas lat PULLDOWN. Thanks for that. I like that it’s about 6 inches smaller than others on the market because I’m putting this in my apartment and I already have a Hoist MI7 dual action smith machine so space is a problem. The texas machine would be good.
I ordered a similar machine from Valor to try out. It came with defective parts so I couldn’t even assemble it plus the metal was cheap and soft and the handles were terrible. Should have ordered this to begin with since now I have just ordered it anyway and have to deal with returning the Valor.
Yeah the first lat pull I had was years back and it was XMark brand. It wasn’t bad but the metal was soft as well. If you tightened the screws to much the metal would bend kind of soft. That’s why I ordered this it was just what I wanted. If you can let them know you heard about it from me. Thanks.
It was about $400 to Florida. But considering the price of others that are worth buying I figured that wasn’t too bad. When I bought it it was $900 without shipping. Seems a bit pricey but I didn’t want one that was cheap nor did I want to spend $3000 on one. this was the best one I could find at the price that was plate loaded which is what I was looking for.
Any lat pull low row plate loaded machine that I’ve used I always put even weight on both side. I feel like it would make the trolly rub on the other side due to weight. So with that said I haven’t tried it.
Just received my Texas Strength lat pulldown/low row machine and, I kid you not, there's a couple "Made In China" stickers located on the guide rods for the plate holder. The machine feels solid, but those stickers were kind of alarming coming from a "Made in the USA" product.
Hmm that’s weird mine didn’t have that. I know when I ordered mine one of things they said that was taking it so long was a shortage of the guid rods. Maybe they don’t make the guide rods just the rest of it. Hope it still works out for you. I love mine it’s solid.
Honestly I don’t know but if you go on their website and look up this item there is a link of a guy using it with a good amount of weight. Also they make their own equipment for their powerlifting gym. I figure being a powerlifting company and gym it should hold what you need. It’s a strong piece of equipment that has some heft to it.
No I really didn’t think about that. I’ve had other cable machines that are a lot cheaper and never had a problem with the cable snapping. I’m the only one that uses it. I guess if it did happen I would contact Texas strength systems and let them know, I would hope they would replace it. I don’t really have any concerns of that happening though.
Cool, if they allow you (and if you don’t mind) let them know you saw my review. I don’t get anything from it but it would be nice if they knew my review helped. Thanks for watching.
U Left out the cost of the machine. Please tell me why people make reviews but leave the cost out of the review. I'm not being a jerk, I just want to know why the most important factor is left out of reviews. Got to be a reason or else the reviewer would tell the cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple, because cost changes all the time. The cost of that machine literally changed within a month of me making that video. Anyone can easily check out the price of any item on the companies website. If I tell you the price and then you go on the website and it’s different then you’ll be angry that I have the wrong info. I have never looked at a review for the price of an item. That’s just me.
I didn’t put it because they have changed the price since I bought it 4 months ago. When I bought it the price was around $900 but then there is shipping depending on where you live.
They’re $1,100 now. Damn, everything has gone up. Seems like solid machine. Think I’ll wait until everything goes back to normal and revisit all these fitness companies trying to cash in on the pandemic then. Great review. Thank you.
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Thorough review!
Thanks man I appreciate that.
Thanks for the video.
I've never had the opportunity to use TSS equipment but it all looks really solid. I've got the plate loaded lat pulldown/low row from XMark - I really like it. It's definitely not as beefy as yours but for being one of the cheaper bolt-together designs, I think it's great and addresses the stability and leverage issues you mention.
Yeah, I had the X mark before and it was great. It just wasn’t like you said as stable as something like to TSS one is. Thanks for watching.
I will never ever get this machine, but I watched your review anyway. You did a damn nice review and I got some inside into a quality product. Thank you
Thanks for watching and the comment. Any reason why you wouldn’t get it?
@@azuwhr Living in Europe... so shipping this stuff over is not feasible.
Also, I tend to include items in my homegym that I don't have access to in my commercial gym. The gym I go to has no GHD, Reverse Hyper, Monolift... so that's the stuff I have in my homegym.
@@retepsualk4609 oh. Ok. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks again for watching!
How many excercises can u do with this product
I would say anything for your back, biceps and triceps. If your really creative all the muscles. Think of it as a half functional trainer as well as a lat pull low row.
Thank you for the review, this looks like a great piece. I really like the small footprint. Something to consider for my garage down the road.
Yeah the build quality and small footprint is what I really like about it. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review! How do you like it after 2 years of using it? Does it still feel like new and have any rocking
Still love it and works like new
Great video, I appreciate the review. Texas Strength Systems is not as well known as rogue or any of the other name brand gym equipment companies but their products are just as rock solid. I purchased one of their 3x3 power racks and it is mostly welded and is a tank. Great job.
Thanks for watching and the comment. I really like the small footprint and it’s sturdy and well built.
@@azuwhr You bet and yes it looks great!
Wow, great video. Thank you. I am considering buying this - like you said, I too intend to use this primarily for low row and lat pull downs.However, I want to ask how this piece of equipment performs for any tricep pulldown and bicep curl/upwards pulling movement? Does the bench seat get in the way of the cables during these movements? If so, are the bench and foot rests removable to prevent this? I'm essentially trying to assess how versatile it can be - I really want to find a low row/pulldown machine that I can also perform accessory cable lifts on. Thank you! Hope you read.
Works great for triceps push downs or reverse push down. When I do bicep curls on it I’ll sit down and use the foot rest and do a seated bicep curl on the floor. The seat does remove just like the knee rest. So if you think it gets in the way you could always take it off if you want to stand up and do bicep curls. The piece is pretty solid so it shouldn’t move at all when you do that but honestly I would say I would do the bicep curls seated more so. You could also do side raises for shoulder exercises, standing lat pull downs or even single chest flies. The machine is very versatile. I hope that works out for you and helps. Thanks again for watching I appreciate the feedback
thanks for the review. I have never used a plate-loaded lat pulldown. Is there a different sensation when using it than weight-stack machines offer? I guess what I mean does it feel as smooth and equal distribution of weight throughout the movement. Thanks!
I think it’s gonna depend on which company you buy it from. I can tell you with this machine it’s just as smooth as any stack machine
G3, great review, as always. May I ask do you ever try using the pull down for tricep work and the low for standing biceps? Is it even possible or does the seat just get in the way? Just trying to ascertain the versatility of this. I will be getting a rack shortly, as well as a pull down (side note, I have back problems, too, but the Rogue Rhino is a little out of my league. 😉). Thank you in advance for your response.
Yeah tricep work is no problem at all. Two arm, one arm no issues at all. For biceps you can do them standing or seated. This machine doesn’t move when you use it. It’s small footprint is deceiving but it’s solid.
So I forgot to mention if your going to do standing bicep curls you would probably take off the seat. I don’t do them I sit if I want to do curls.
Great video thanks. I’m looking for one but the space in my garage is limited, so this one look to be more compacted than the Titan fitness. Thanks
Yeah can’t beat the small but strong build. 4 foot by 2 foot.
Nice review! How do you find the foot plate spacing? It looks wider than most, maybe too far apart?
No it’s perfect for me. I’m 6 ft and the spacing works great. Thanks for watching
Excellent gym. Do you know what the weight capacity is for the machine?
Not sure but I have seen videos of guys using it with 4 plates of 45s on each side. They have a belt squat attachment for it as well.
Thanks for this review! Had never heard of these guys before. Do you know how heavy the unit is? You mentioned you got a plate-loaded variant to make it less stressful to move around when necessary (instead of a weight stack version).
Not sure of the weight of it but it’s light enough to move around myself but heavy enough not to move at all when using it.
@@azuwhr Appreciate the reply, good to know!
If you take the seat off, is it possible to do standing curls without worrying about scraping the cable on any metal?
I haven’t tried that but I would imagine you could. usually I do seated curls with it. I sit on the floor just like a row and do it that way
Do you find the origin point for this TSS low row set up being too low? In low row machines I've seen at commercial gyms, the origin point is maybe a foot higher than in this TSS set up - in a way that the arms are nearly horizontal when extended, rather than pointing down like in this set up.
I'm wondering if the muscle recruitment would be different as a result? Have you noticed this?
No I haven’t noticed it at all. It feels the same to me as any other row I’ve used. I feel a lot of activation in my back when I use it.
this is a nice 1200 dollar lat machine. Was the lat/low row system from Rogue an option you had looked into as part of your decision to go with a stand-alone system?
Yeah I looked at a lot of them but Rogue only has a pin loaded option and for a garage gym that wouldn’t work for me. Theirs is to tall for my ceiling and I want to be able to move it around the gym if needed. Rogues is 600 plus lbs and I don’t know how I would get that into my gym. I looked at Titan but I wanted one that was welded together not bolted together.
Ordered mine about a month ago, can't wait
I hope you enjoy
@@azuwhr thanks, I'm 100% sure I will, I have one of their racks already, the thing is bomb proof!
@@VonHutt how did you like it? Do you still have it?
Thanks for the review. Did you consider the rogue options? They are pretty expensive...
Yeah I did but Rogue is double if not more then what I paid and it’s to tall for my garage. Also Rogue comes in one piece and weights 600 lbs. not sure how I would be it moved around. I wanted plate loaded so getting it in the gym and moving it around wouldn’t be a nightmare. Thanks for watching
very useful 😘
Thanks for the video. Question: Can you describe again how it was shipped ? Was the main piece all together and the other pieces in Red plus the seat and foot plate and weight holders separate? I am asking because I have to get it up to the 8 floor of my apartment building in an elevator. What’s the weight of the main piece that comes all together?
It all came in one big crate. The main frame is one welded piece and I can lift it by myself but it’s awkward to carry. The other pieces come in the same crate but not attached. Not sure the actual weight on the main frame though.
Do me a favor if you purchase it let them know it’s due to the video. Thanks for watching.
@@azuwhr I got in touch with Texas Strenght and they said it’s 10 weeks to get the friggin Lat PULLDOWN. That’s ridiculous.
It took 4 months for mine last year. Everything is taking forever due to Covid. Took 2 and half months for my Fray T Bar Row machine. I ordered a preacher curl 3 months ago and had to cancel it because it was taking way longer then expected. I have a bar from Synergee that I ordered and won’t come in till June.
@@azuwhr I live in New Jersey and I’m tired of hearing the Covid excuses. Here in NJ we were the second to NY and the country in the hardest hit with COVID and we are up and running. I may but a Xmark lat low row now and order the Texas one and if the Xmark is good as people say it’s good , it gets 4.8 stars ⭐️ on Amazon and good reviews. I don’t see any videos other than yours on the Texas lat PULLDOWN. Thanks for that. I like that it’s about 6 inches smaller than others on the market because I’m putting this in my apartment and I already have a Hoist MI7 dual action smith machine so space is a problem. The texas machine would be good.
Which Mag Grip attachment feels the best for Pulldown? If you had to get 1 initially which would you choose? Thanks!
I would say the mid neutral one
I ordered a similar machine from Valor to try out. It came with defective parts so I couldn’t even assemble it plus the metal was cheap and soft and the handles were terrible. Should have ordered this to begin with since now I have just ordered it anyway and have to deal with returning the Valor.
Yeah the first lat pull I had was years back and it was XMark brand. It wasn’t bad but the metal was soft as well. If you tightened the screws to much the metal would bend kind of soft. That’s why I ordered this it was just what I wanted. If you can let them know you heard about it from me. Thanks.
Where do you live? Just curious what your freight cost. I was going to get one, but the freight to Ohio was around $500 if I remember right.
It was about $400 to Florida. But considering the price of others that are worth buying I figured that wasn’t too bad. When I bought it it was $900 without shipping. Seems a bit pricey but I didn’t want one that was cheap nor did I want to spend $3000 on one. this was the best one I could find at the price that was plate loaded which is what I was looking for.
How tall are you I’m 5’11 and was wondering if I would get a good stretch from this on the top end
I’m 5’11 as well and the stretch is perfect.
How does the weight trolley handle an uneven load? Can you just put a 45 on one side or do you have to load it pretty evenly?
Any lat pull low row plate loaded machine that I’ve used I always put even weight on both side. I feel like it would make the trolly rub on the other side due to weight. So with that said I haven’t tried it.
@@azuwhr Thanks for the quick reply
you still liking this machine..
Oh yeah absolutely.
@@azuwhr they should thank you I'm going to order one... :)
Let them know where you heard about it from. I’d appreciate it.
Are they bearings or bushings around guide rods ?
I think it’s just plastic haven’t really paid much attention to it because they work fine
The way they build is two tubes with plastic inserts that slide on the rods. No sticking, rubbing or scraping. Works perfect.
Does it need to be bolted to the floor?
No not at all it’s extremely sturdy and heavy duty.
@@azuwhr thank you!
Just received my Texas Strength lat pulldown/low row machine and, I kid you not, there's a couple "Made In China" stickers located on the guide rods for the plate holder. The machine feels solid, but those stickers were kind of alarming coming from a "Made in the USA" product.
Hmm that’s weird mine didn’t have that. I know when I ordered mine one of things they said that was taking it so long was a shortage of the guid rods. Maybe they don’t make the guide rods just the rest of it. Hope it still works out for you. I love mine it’s solid.
So how is the machine working out?
@@azuwhr It's working out great! I'm happy with the purchase. The size is perfect and the quality is top notch.
Glad to hear that.
Any idea as to what the max weight allowed to use on the machine?
Honestly I don’t know but if you go on their website and look up this item there is a link of a guy using it with a good amount of weight. Also they make their own equipment for their powerlifting gym. I figure being a powerlifting company and gym it should hold what you need. It’s a strong piece of equipment that has some heft to it.
600 pounds!!
What's the overall measurements of the machine?
It comes out from the wall 4 feet then 2 feet across. About 85 inch high.
Thanks for your time and reply. Love the tip for the Mag grips as well.
@@lancenava5840 I just posted a full video of the grips if you haven’t seen it yet.
How much was this, two years ago?
At the time $1400 and we’ll worth it.
@@azuwhr few hundo more now....still considering it
if the cable snap do you know where to go to get it replace?
No I really didn’t think about that. I’ve had other cable machines that are a lot cheaper and never had a problem with the cable snapping. I’m the only one that uses it. I guess if it did happen I would contact Texas strength systems and let them know, I would hope they would replace it. I don’t really have any concerns of that happening though.
@@azuwhr Thanks... I'm going to order mine tonight.
Cool, if they allow you (and if you don’t mind) let them know you saw my review. I don’t get anything from it but it would be nice if they knew my review helped. Thanks for watching.
@@azuwhr have you ever try doing a stand up curl on that machine? Does the cable rubs the seat?
I’ve done stand up rows and didn’t have a problem but when I curl with it I sit on the floor.
U Left out the cost of the machine.
Please tell me why people make reviews but leave the cost out of the review.
I'm not being a jerk, I just want to know why the most important factor is left out of reviews. Got to be a reason or else the reviewer would tell the cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple, because cost changes all the time. The cost of that machine literally changed within a month of me making that video. Anyone can easily check out the price of any item on the companies website. If I tell you the price and then you go on the website and it’s different then you’ll be angry that I have the wrong info. I have never looked at a review for the price of an item. That’s just me.
Hope that explains
Did I miss the price?
I didn’t put it because they have changed the price since I bought it 4 months ago. When I bought it the price was around $900 but then there is shipping depending on where you live.
They’re $1,100 now. Damn, everything has gone up. Seems like solid machine. Think I’ll wait until everything goes back to normal and revisit all these fitness companies trying to cash in on the pandemic then. Great review. Thank you.
Thanks