Immortal not true she must found was to live longer after a few more aeons her time be up or go mad by become corrupting her form by darker magic she can't handle
The issues I have with Skyros and the Alicorn civilisation is... where have they been all this time? Why did none of them come to Celestia's aid with ruling alone for 1000 years? Why didn't they confront her about Luna’s fall into Nightmare Moon? Why didn't they confront Luna about it after her return? If what Opaline said about an Alicorn's duty is so important, how come Celestia and Luna were able to give that role to Twilight by simply infusing a small piece of their magic into the amulet? How come no Alicorn came demanding to know why they were abandoning their duty and giving to a not naturally born Alicorn instead? Who has the amulet now? Someone had to be using it all this time to keep day and night going. So many questions that need real answers, but that I'm certain G5 is going to ignore and just wave off as something not important
Considering the land of the Alicorns is somewhere outside of Equestria, the simple answer for most of those is that the other Alicorns just weren't aware of any of that happening.
Maybe Skyros alicorns are more based on things (like Celestia is sun and that expands to day, Luna is moon and that expands to night), while the ones that "ascended" like Twilight are based on concepts? I think that could be a cool detail
I would like to hear Princess Celestia and Luna's side of the story if they do return in the next MLP: Make Your Mark Chapter because I'm getting a feelings that Opaline wasn't telling the whole truth about her past. I mean the way she discribe her backstory to Misty she looks bitterly jealous and angry.
Mainstream archaeologists say that no alicorn has ever been born naturally. But ancient alicorn theorists have a different, more profound, explanation...
Maybe Skyros still exists, but maybe it got Atlantis treatment? What if after Celestia's and Luna's departure for Equestria, some of the alicorns that stayed in that place (including Opaline) started looking for ways to strengthen their magic in pursuit of power? This could had resulted in magic disaster that destroyed Skyros and most of alicorns living there, while Opaline as the only survivor found herself weakened from the whole event. That theory would have explained why there were no other alicorns in G4 or why Opaline waited for so long to attempt to take control of Equestria from Twilight, as she needed to regain her strength first.
Honestly speaking its important to remember that S1 - 4 and S5 - 9 and G5 all had different groups of writers so there might be inconstancies with the lore Plus lets face it G4 had a bunch of independent writers and scripts for episodes and would contradict its self constantly with expanded media
Also, I was really happy to see the two sisters back in G5. I don’t care what others say, I know it’s gonna get better and I loved it from the beginning!
Opaline Arcana is still a mysterious pony and I can’t wait to see more of her past. As well as Misty’s past. Speaking of Misty I was thinking if you could do a video about Misty being Alphabittle’s daughter. Because at the ball Episode Alphabittle seem to have noticed Misty, almost as he did recognize her. So please do a video about that.
Well I would say that it’s been confirmed that there are different types of alicorns. Celestia is a Sun Alicorn, Luna of the Moon, Twilight of the Stars, Opaline of Fire, Cadance of Love, and Flurry of Light.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 I would phrase it more like if people follow that train of thought or believe that premature theory, but it would be possible
Yes, another poll idea would be, do you think there are alicorns of other elements out there other than Fire like Water, Earth, and Wind, and if there are, could they get their powers from the other creatures from G4? I have so many questions! What happened to the dragons? Where did the other creatures go? What happened to them? Why did Sunny need a lighthouse before if there were only ponies in Equestria? Was it old like the station? And here’s a great poll idea: Do you think Sunny and Argyle are related to Twilight or Sunset Shimmer? I think so!
Just realised, there might actually be a counter-explanation... Ó.Õ What if Skyros wasn't actually an alicorn civilisation, but a pony civilisation ruled by alicorns? (Rather like what Equestria eventually became) It would explain why Celestia and Luna were taught the ways of royalty from an early age. Who would alicorns rule over if not regular ponies. Unless there are non-royal alicorns out there somehow? The counter to that counter is that Celestia and Luna could have been singled out as rulers of Equestria *before* the meeting with Starswirl. Though, I still think we'd need to actually see Skyros before we can confirm the alicorn civilisation theory once and for all. What do you think?
Then we couldnt as easily disprove the Flurry Heart point, because it wouldnt obviously beyond their understanding that an alicorn can be born from other species, well, its still possible, but not as obviously explainable And other than that, it doesnt really counter the theory I was talking about, its just a different take on it
You should had mention that Winter Wishday has a scene where Zipp opens a book and there are pages about Alicorn guardians meeting. One Alicorn had a fire symbol, second had a water symbol and third a star. So there might be actual 2 elements and one representing unity magic of friendship and love.
actually I went back and looked at the page & the guardians do not seem to be depicted as alicorns there, rather there's one earth pony, one pegasus, and one unicorn. so i don't think that is Opaline since she was born an alicorn (perhaps someone related to her though?)
It is possible that these symbolize the three crystals that together make up the Unity Crystals, it is said in the book - which is confusing - that three crystals came from heaven and became "alive". It is also said in the book that they had begun to forget their purpose. The book was printed at a time when the ponies were breaking up, possibly by ponies who wanted to preserve tales before they were forgotten. But from C4 we know that it is a book about alicorns, which explained that there is more than just the G4 and G5 alicorns we are more familiar with, the cover had an unknown alicorn on it. It is also possible that Skyros was a "superpower" that the ponies looked up to, and that it disappeared while Celestia and Luna were still young, possibly after the pillars also disappeared. Skyros' disappearance may have thrown the entire world into chaos, so history may have repeated itself when Equestria collapsed after Twilight disappeared. The alicorns have always had an important role in the world of ponies.
Ah, now I understand why they didn't make Celestia with pink hair, I think she wouldn't have been so recognizable (and it took me 1 minute to recognize them, from how sleepy I was that day xD)
But she's Dead already and there's no way that she is possibly alive somewhere in G5 and don't forget about every creatures in Equestria along with spike, flurry heart and cadence as well
@@dougsfilmtv9810 if she's still alive somewhere in G5 where could she be hiding in G5? But why didn't luster dawn and her friends aren't stopping opaline instead of twilight sparkle herself?
The Journal is straight up not canon. The Tree of Harmony being planted by Starswirl just before he went to Limbo is a massive smoking gun that decanonizes large swaths of the Journal _However_ , it still can be used as a supporting argument, as the existence of the alicorn homeland has been canonized by G5
I actually have a theory. If there are alicorns for other elements, and alicorns can harness those elements from other creatures, this is how the other creatures get involved! Like how Fire Alicorns get their power from dragons, a Water Alicorn could get it from Hippogriffs/Seaponies, an Earth Alicorn from Yaks, Kirins, or Changelings, a Wind Alicorn from Griffins or Hippogriffs, etc.
And I’m sure that Twilight and the other Alicorns we knew of from G4 are still alive, because it is now confirmed that Alicorns are immortal. Which begs the question, where are they now? Did they all just go back to Skyros? Are they on retirement? Did Twilight automate the weather and sun-moon cycles when she put the magic into the crystals (because how did any pony get the rain to grow food?) And so Opaline wants revenge on Twilight AND the two sisters now? We never learn why the Alicorns are just Princesses and not Queens, that would mean they’d have to be the daughter of a queen. So that was evidence there were other Alicorns from the beginning. I really hope we get to find out more, and I know it’s just gonna keep getting better and better.
Opaline: “I was AN alicorn of fire” So, can more than one alicorn wield the same type of magic then? like one alicorn family can have a specific type of power?
The book in Winter WIshday implied there were 3 guardians. One of Fire, One of Water and One of a Star. It is implied Opaline might be the one and only alicorn guardian of Fire magic.
I mean Elements of Harmony is just a sub weapons of a Unity magic that is mostly used by Equestrian ponies. Opaline has the essence of the Fire elemental magic that is equivalent of Tree of Harmony, Elements of Harmony and entire Rainbow Power of friendship. This is why she was strong enough to destroy Equestria and force Twilight to sacrifice magic to pacify Opaline.
I would love for there to be a chapter 6!!!!! Can’t wait!!!! My theory is that Starlight created a Crystal of her own. One that can steal magic that Opaline could use to try and steal the cutie marks.
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So flurry is the alicorn born doing luna and celestia live since it's beyond even their understanding or is it because it beyond their understanding how it was even able to happen without a alicorn mother or father
Okay, hear me our, what if when Twilight was crowned an alicorn, she was teleported to Skyros and reborn as an alicorn? It also looks like another dimension, which would explain not only how there hadn't been any alicorns born in Equestria, but also why the alicorn civilisation was never found or why they didn't have that much of an influence in Equestria.
oh wow this could actually fit with one of my mlp ocs context: It's an alicorn (yes ik I'm trying my best to balance them) that got locked in a bunker for around 1000 years and with this theory they could have been locked in there to stop mass hysteria spreading because: a) their main thing is the concept of sickness and thus they get near constant updates from all across the world about new illnesses and cures and they were told to either start or stop a future plague and b) their magic is constantly functioning which causes it to misfire occasionally and thus causing chaos (something that would be revered and shamed by other ponies due to discord causing chaos).
How come a stallion can't become an Alicorn? Pretty sure Sunburst would be the first since he has a deep understanding of magic just like Twilight Sparkle
In the last episode of G4, Twilight grew to be the same height as Celestia and had acquired a flowing mane. She still looked very young, but the rest of the mane 6 showed signs of aging. Granted that the time skip was only 20 years, for Twilight to be as tall as she was and to still look very young compared to her friends can only prove that she does have immortality. Another incident that proves Alicorns are immortal, is during Celestia's fight with Nightmare Moon/Luna. Nightmare Moon/Luna struck Celestia with her spell and Celestia fell from the sky at an extreme height and landed on the ground inside the castle. The fall should've killed Celestia and, yet, she rises from the ground as if nothing had happened. I'm honestly surprised that no one talks about this scene more.
@@acjmonkeyaj7139 ok so now with the new g5 episode, spike pretty much retconned that the Alicorns are immortal (AND how the magic was “lost”) I guess lol. the nonsense of this showwww
@@Temebrai Well, Spike never said that Twilight was dead. Only that he remembered his days with her. Not to mention, part of Twilight's plan was to protect the dragons' fire magic from Opaline and who better to help follow through with that plan than Spike? Just because Spike isn't with her, doesn't necessarily mean that she's dead. Until the writers themselves say otherwise, I'm going to hold onto the possibility that Twilight is still alive.
@@doc_anubis Star Striker always have strange takes on episodes and feels like he tries to hate it on purpose. Often asking questions that supposed to remain a mystery like "what happened to Skyros" or "Why Opaline didn't attack earlier" and using it as arguments that G5 doesn't make sense and is badly written. It pisses me off. He doesnt understand the concept of slow reveals of mysteries and lore building.
I feel I've come up with an explanation using the info till now Theory:Opaline Arcana grew alongside Luna and Celestia,maybe their sister or cousin. But since Luna and Celestia had the"whole sun and moon thing going" she felt left out when they left to rule equestria from skyros on starswirls request, this caused her to be powermad and she started rampaging skyros which led to her banishment after which she came to equestria, the. Celestia and Luna saw her threat and banished her to the stars, fast forward to whrn Nightmare Moon was banished, Celestia knew that Opaline would help Nightmare moon escape so that either they could come back as a duo and terrorize equestria, so she aided in her escape as in the prophecy, but the spell cast on Opaline was strong so she couldn't escape and the rest is history, she came back and as Spike said she wanted all the magic to herself etc etc..
wait..a second,. if alicorns represent some elements, emotions,etc. does this mean that there is a possiblity that we have evil born alicorns? make no mistake, nightmare moon was created out of jealousy and opaline is bad also beacause of it...but i wonder....if candace represent love, can it be that an alicorn of hate can exist? or if twlight represents friendship we can have an alicorn of...em..the opposite of friendship? and here is a funny one. if candance is the alicorn of love, can we have an alicorn of lust? tho for this show..that sounds a bit to much
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 i mean yeah but the way i see it discord was just there to balance the world. how can i put it...i don't think chaos is bad. it is neutral dare i say. and when was most likely discord created? when there was to much harmony or good if you want to look at it that way. the way i see it...discord is beyond an alicorn. alicorns have to respect the rules or word..they have blood, bones...and discord? my guy can get split in half and laugh at you. discord is chaos itself...a thing that the world needs to balance the good and bad. and by that extent i mean to call discord almost a god. alicorns represent emotions, elements..discord represent a part of the world and existince...does...that make sense? and sorry for the long thing. kind of got lost in all of it
@@doc_anubis tho i would much rather not see an alicorn of lust...i am not ready to see an alicorn expresing desire...and i don't even want to imagine how our so presumed alicorn of lust look. good episode btw man. i love this sort of content.
I have believed this as well! When the sisters said Equestria never saw an alicorn born? It is because they mean since the nation was founded! They existed before the 3 tribes in other words.
Can you do a video explaining Princess_Cadence from the MLP FIM show like why was she introduced when she married Twilight's big brother and how come we never solve any love problems for other ponies besides flashbacks?
@@doc_anubis I highly doubt that makes sense cause the Comics are branched from the MLP FIM show since everything that happened there was never mentioned in the show
And the reason the 2 sisters say its beyond there understanding is maybe before getting there cutie mark the can't remember anything up to that point of what happened to them
Are these Alicorn characters like Twilight Sparkle, Celestia and Luna in the G5 universe counterparts from the G4 universe? Is there any way to prove that they're not the same characters from the G4 universe instead they are alternate versions of them?
Excuse me but don't when opaline says dragon hibernation in the finale of chapter 4 possibly means that spike and the other dragons are still alive somewhere in G5
I never liked the concept of the alicorn civilisation. I think it's a last resort so that we can somehow explain the whole alicorn concept to ourselves. I would explain the origin of the alicorns differently. In my opinion, they are all artificial (except Flurry). Considering only the t.v. series (I didn't go to other sources) it can be explained. The raising of the Sun and Moon required the participation of a group of unicorn ponies (exhausting). Back when the 3 pony groups were still freshly united they needed leaders, protectors and everything else needed in a kingdom. Starswirl came up with a spell to combine the magic of all the races (to represent all the elements), which also solved the issue of the day and night cycle (creating a pony powerful enough to do the raising on its own). Celestia and Luna may have belonged to the same race of high unicorns as Princess Amore. We can assume that this was a highly magical race, destined for greatness (needs further explanation). In order not to elaborate, here are a few more comments. Opaline may have lied about her shared past with Cel and Luna; 2. Opaline may be the daughter of Flurry; 3. Opaline's task could be to restore the Flame of Friendship. This is why Twilight created the artefacts (Opaline failed); 4. How do alicorns die? (!important if we want to consider new gen ponies) That's all thank you :>
That would contradict what we know from the Journal of the Two Sisters, but I know that is a debatable source, same with the other sources that depict Celestia and Luna as alicorn fillies, so I get why one wouldnt go for that explanation, its theoririzing, everyone is free to believe what they want, its even more fair if you believe Opaline is lying, it wouldnt make sense for her to lie imo, but still a fair enough take
Just like Flurry Heart was born an Alicorn and Twilight Sparkle did an impossible task to become an Alicorn, How did Princess_Cadence and the royal sisters became Alicorns?
Did you even listen to the video? Im sorry, but for the sisters, I just thouroughly explained that they were born as alicorns. For Cadance, we know that she was a Pegasus before and earned herself the horn after discovering her love magic. That is from the chapter book "Twilight Sparkle anbd the Crystal Heart Spell"
So in the video u say thare r elementul n concept alicorns but when u said that it made me have a little theory that neutrality born alicorns r elementul kind while artificial ones represent concepts
Its impossible by now anyways since we have the info that Opaline made herself into a fire alicorn and wasnt born as one. As for the difference between the artificial and natural born ones, thats possible, maybe that they have different kind of potentials. Though I dont know if Luna and Celestias things could be called elemental
@@doc_anubis tbh it's sed that such interesting lore isn't explored it could of been cool to have a movie or a season to focus on this for example season 8 could of been used for that
We sure do, in the chapter book "Twilight and the Crystal Hear Spell" we hear Cadance backstory, she is a unicorn that was found as a Pegasus and only became an alicorn later in life
Well that doesn’t mean Celestia gave her wings. She still technically isn’t artificial if she got her wings from getting magic from all three pony types some other way, like getting the love from and connecting with the Crystal Heart. And I suppose since everyone accepts this as canon, I do too now.
princess celestia and princess Luna are the children of queen galaxia and king cosmos which was the ruler of equestria they were unicorns and became alicorns after
I think personally that the fact that Opaline was jealous of them proves they weren't born alicorns. Hear me out, but I think it proves they were born unicorns and became alicorns. Imagine would think she is more powerful, but it's not true because the Two sisters had to earn their wings. I think Celestia and Luna were sent off to learn about alicorns by Starswirl. A Prince would be been left in their place, this Prince was the one in the book from the first hearts and hooves day episode. This would lead to "chaos reining". This sisters then would be heard of the turmoil of Equestria and went to fight discord. But, this is just my theory.
Most of this is very theory based. The alicorns in Skyros are born naturally to embody a part of nature that needs to be ruled. Thats why Flurry was born an alicorn as well, she was needed as the princess of Hope. Opaline would've been born as the alicorn of fire because that element was needed at the time of her birth. Celestia and Luna became alicorns after the alicorns of the sun and moon died for whatever reason and the unicorns could no longer continue the task on their own.
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And people thought I was crazy for this theory...
we need to normalize this theory
Immortal not true she must found was to live longer after a few more aeons her time be up or go mad by become corrupting her form by darker magic she can't handle
@@skistorm739 I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to say there...
@TheNamelessOne Alison's Don't live forever because ancient Magic might live longer because villain mind is delusional
@TheNamelessOne also off-topic nameless in your oc lore have someone broke the multiverse and you had to fix it?
The issues I have with Skyros and the Alicorn civilisation is... where have they been all this time?
Why did none of them come to Celestia's aid with ruling alone for 1000 years?
Why didn't they confront her about Luna’s fall into Nightmare Moon?
Why didn't they confront Luna about it after her return?
If what Opaline said about an Alicorn's duty is so important, how come Celestia and Luna were able to give that role to Twilight by simply infusing a small piece of their magic into the amulet?
How come no Alicorn came demanding to know why they were abandoning their duty and giving to a not naturally born Alicorn instead?
Who has the amulet now? Someone had to be using it all this time to keep day and night going.
So many questions that need real answers, but that I'm certain G5 is going to ignore and just wave off as something not important
Considering the land of the Alicorns is somewhere outside of Equestria, the simple answer for most of those is that the other Alicorns just weren't aware of any of that happening.
I wonder if Skyros is essentially like on another plane of existence, and whatever way they travelled between the two worlds was destroyed
I like the theory most of them had gone extinct or were killed. That'd explain why Celestia made Twilight an Alicorn, to carry out the Alicorn blood
Maybe Skyros alicorns are more based on things (like Celestia is sun and that expands to day, Luna is moon and that expands to night), while the ones that "ascended" like Twilight are based on concepts? I think that could be a cool detail
It would definitely be interesting if they present it that way
that makes so much sense
That certainly makes sense, since Opaline (natural born) is a fire alicorn and Cadance (artificial alicorn) is the Princess of Love.
I would like to hear Princess Celestia and Luna's side of the story if they do return in the next MLP: Make Your Mark Chapter because I'm getting a feelings that Opaline wasn't telling the whole truth about her past. I mean the way she discribe her backstory to Misty she looks bitterly jealous and angry.
Mainstream archaeologists say that no alicorn has ever been born naturally. But ancient alicorn theorists have a different, more profound, explanation...
Maybe Skyros still exists, but maybe it got Atlantis treatment? What if after Celestia's and Luna's departure for Equestria, some of the alicorns that stayed in that place (including Opaline) started looking for ways to strengthen their magic in pursuit of power? This could had resulted in magic disaster that destroyed Skyros and most of alicorns living there, while Opaline as the only survivor found herself weakened from the whole event. That theory would have explained why there were no other alicorns in G4 or why Opaline waited for so long to attempt to take control of Equestria from Twilight, as she needed to regain her strength first.
Honestly speaking its important to remember that S1 - 4 and S5 - 9 and G5 all had different groups of writers so there might be inconstancies with the lore
Plus lets face it G4 had a bunch of independent writers and scripts for episodes and would contradict its self constantly with expanded media
Also, I was really happy to see the two sisters back in G5. I don’t care what others say, I know it’s gonna get better and I loved it from the beginning!
And see them today would be incredible.
Opaline Arcana is still a mysterious pony and I can’t wait to see more of her past. As well as Misty’s past. Speaking of Misty I was thinking if you could do a video about Misty being Alphabittle’s daughter. Because at the ball Episode Alphabittle seem to have noticed Misty, almost as he did recognize her. So please do a video about that.
We have seen that hint, but we dont really have enough information on that yet to make a full on theory imo
Well I would say that it’s been confirmed that there are different types of alicorns.
Celestia is a Sun Alicorn, Luna of the Moon, Twilight of the Stars, Opaline of Fire, Cadance of Love, and Flurry of Light.
@@doc_anubis Then the best you can do is a poll. To decide whether or not Misty is Alphabittle’s daughter.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 I would phrase it more like if people follow that train of thought or believe that premature theory, but it would be possible
Yes, another poll idea would be, do you think there are alicorns of other elements out there other than Fire like Water, Earth, and Wind, and if there are, could they get their powers from the other creatures from G4?
I have so many questions!
What happened to the dragons? Where did the other creatures go? What happened to them? Why did Sunny need a lighthouse before if there were only ponies in Equestria? Was it old like the station? And here’s a great poll idea:
Do you think Sunny and Argyle are related to Twilight or Sunset Shimmer? I think so!
Just realised, there might actually be a counter-explanation... Ó.Õ
What if Skyros wasn't actually an alicorn civilisation, but a pony civilisation ruled by alicorns? (Rather like what Equestria eventually became)
It would explain why Celestia and Luna were taught the ways of royalty from an early age. Who would alicorns rule over if not regular ponies. Unless there are non-royal alicorns out there somehow?
The counter to that counter is that Celestia and Luna could have been singled out as rulers of Equestria *before* the meeting with Starswirl. Though, I still think we'd need to actually see Skyros before we can confirm the alicorn civilisation theory once and for all.
What do you think?
Then we couldnt as easily disprove the Flurry Heart point, because it wouldnt obviously beyond their understanding that an alicorn can be born from other species, well, its still possible, but not as obviously explainable
And other than that, it doesnt really counter the theory I was talking about, its just a different take on it
You should had mention that Winter Wishday has a scene where Zipp opens a book and there are pages about Alicorn guardians meeting. One Alicorn had a fire symbol, second had a water symbol and third a star. So there might be actual 2 elements and one representing unity magic of friendship and love.
actually I went back and looked at the page & the guardians do not seem to be depicted as alicorns there, rather there's one earth pony, one pegasus, and one unicorn. so i don't think that is Opaline since she was born an alicorn (perhaps someone related to her though?)
It is possible that these symbolize the three crystals that together make up the Unity Crystals, it is said in the book - which is confusing - that three crystals came from heaven and became "alive". It is also said in the book that they had begun to forget their purpose. The book was printed at a time when the ponies were breaking up, possibly by ponies who wanted to preserve tales before they were forgotten. But from C4 we know that it is a book about alicorns, which explained that there is more than just the G4 and G5 alicorns we are more familiar with, the cover had an unknown alicorn on it. It is also possible that Skyros was a "superpower" that the ponies looked up to, and that it disappeared while Celestia and Luna were still young, possibly after the pillars also disappeared. Skyros' disappearance may have thrown the entire world into chaos, so history may have repeated itself when Equestria collapsed after Twilight disappeared. The alicorns have always had an important role in the world of ponies.
Ah, now I understand why they didn't make Celestia with pink hair, I think she wouldn't have been so recognizable (and it took me 1 minute to recognize them, from how sleepy I was that day xD)
Granted, the non-pink hair is a stupid thing cause the writers, even back in G4, could never agree on that
I think some people forget that Equestria is just a name of the country in that world.
Dooesn't LUNa say it Beyond their understanding
Dooesn't LUNa say it Beyond their understanding
I explained in the video why that doesn't mean what you think
I would love to see an Alicorn world in the next chapter maybe Twilight could be there if she is in hiding.
But she's Dead already and there's no way that she is possibly alive somewhere in G5 and don't forget about every creatures in Equestria along with spike, flurry heart and cadence as well
@@ronaldpagar6513 It could be possible. Twilight wasn’t the only one who didn’t aged but her friends did.
@@dougsfilmtv9810 if she's still alive somewhere in G5 where could she be hiding in G5? But why didn't luster dawn and her friends aren't stopping opaline instead of twilight sparkle herself?
@@ronaldpagar6513 maybe they didnt want to create chains of 6 friends trying to save the world, and kept them more casual than heroes
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And finally, someone finally uses the Journal of the Two Sisters as evidence where even Sawtooth did not, and accepts it as canon!
He's not the only one. I had the same theory last year
The Journal is straight up not canon. The Tree of Harmony being planted by Starswirl just before he went to Limbo is a massive smoking gun that decanonizes large swaths of the Journal
_However_ , it still can be used as a supporting argument, as the existence of the alicorn homeland has been canonized by G5
I actually have a theory. If there are alicorns for other elements, and alicorns can harness those elements from other creatures, this is how the other creatures get involved! Like how Fire Alicorns get their power from dragons, a Water Alicorn could get it from Hippogriffs/Seaponies, an Earth Alicorn from Yaks, Kirins, or Changelings, a Wind Alicorn from Griffins or Hippogriffs, etc.
that definitely is a potential way they could do it
Absolutely and I love it!
And I’m sure that Twilight and the other Alicorns we knew of from G4 are still alive, because it is now confirmed that Alicorns are immortal. Which begs the question, where are they now? Did they all just go back to Skyros? Are they on retirement? Did Twilight automate the weather and sun-moon cycles when she put the magic into the crystals (because how did any pony get the rain to grow food?) And so Opaline wants revenge on Twilight AND the two sisters now?
We never learn why the Alicorns are just Princesses and not Queens, that would mean they’d have to be the daughter of a queen. So that was evidence there were other Alicorns from the beginning. I really hope we get to find out more, and I know it’s just gonna keep getting better and better.
A thunder alicorn can absorb the magic of Storm Creatures.
Ohhh YEAH!!!!
Opaline: “I was AN alicorn of fire”
So, can more than one alicorn wield the same type of magic then? like one alicorn family can have a specific type of power?
The book in Winter WIshday implied there were 3 guardians. One of Fire, One of Water and One of a Star. It is implied Opaline might be the one and only alicorn guardian of Fire magic.
Oh thanks for this teory, I was incredibly fascinated to learn more about alicorns and am looking forward to seeing more about them.
Imagine the battle between the alicorn elements & the Elements of Harmony.
I mean Elements of Harmony is just a sub weapons of a Unity magic that is mostly used by Equestrian ponies. Opaline has the essence of the Fire elemental magic that is equivalent of Tree of Harmony, Elements of Harmony and entire Rainbow Power of friendship. This is why she was strong enough to destroy Equestria and force Twilight to sacrifice magic to pacify Opaline.
I don't know why, but I think chapter 6 is going to be the best of Make Your Mark, despite only being a special and 3 episodes...
It definitely has potential, even if it set expectations that can easily be disappointed with the name
I would love for there to be a chapter 6!!!!! Can’t wait!!!!
My theory is that Starlight created a Crystal of her own. One that can steal magic that Opaline could use to try and steal the cutie marks.
Yeah, they're smaller episodes so the quality should go up considerably.
If magic was completely stable in the G5 time line, Would Sunny Starscout be a real Alicorn with solid horn and wings?
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So flurry is the alicorn born doing luna and celestia live since it's beyond even their understanding or is it because it beyond their understanding how it was even able to happen without a alicorn mother or father
It was beyond their understanding because not both parents are alicorns, which is how it was so far
"Im not saying it was alicorns but it was alicorns" - Ancient Aliens Pony
Okay, hear me our, what if when Twilight was crowned an alicorn, she was teleported to Skyros and reborn as an alicorn? It also looks like another dimension, which would explain not only how there hadn't been any alicorns born in Equestria, but also why the alicorn civilisation was never found or why they didn't have that much of an influence in Equestria.
oh wow this could actually fit with one of my mlp ocs
context: It's an alicorn (yes ik I'm trying my best to balance them) that got locked in a bunker for around 1000 years and with this theory they could have been locked in there to stop mass hysteria spreading because: a) their main thing is the concept of sickness and thus they get near constant updates from all across the world about new illnesses and cures and they were told to either start or stop a future plague and b) their magic is constantly functioning which causes it to misfire occasionally and thus causing chaos (something that would be revered and shamed by other ponies due to discord causing chaos).
How come a stallion can't become an Alicorn? Pretty sure Sunburst would be the first since he has a deep understanding of magic just like Twilight Sparkle
Nobody ever said they cant, we just dont have an instance of it
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The Pony of Shadows was an alicorn.
@@SplashSurfer216 Not a real one. It was like an evil transformation but the pony stayed a Unicorn
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Alicorns are immortal is confirmed now!? Maybe the natural ones are, but ascended ones like twi and candy are mortal?
It was confirmed by Opaline a few times now, though I dont see why ascended ones should be different
In the last episode of G4, Twilight grew to be the same height as Celestia and had acquired a flowing mane. She still looked very young, but the rest of the mane 6 showed signs of aging. Granted that the time skip was only 20 years, for Twilight to be as tall as she was and to still look very young compared to her friends can only prove that she does have immortality. Another incident that proves Alicorns are immortal, is during Celestia's fight with Nightmare Moon/Luna. Nightmare Moon/Luna struck Celestia with her spell and Celestia fell from the sky at an extreme height and landed on the ground inside the castle. The fall should've killed Celestia and, yet, she rises from the ground as if nothing had happened. I'm honestly surprised that no one talks about this scene more.
@@acjmonkeyaj7139 ok so now with the new g5 episode, spike pretty much retconned that the Alicorns are immortal (AND how the magic was “lost”) I guess lol. the nonsense of this showwww
@@Temebrai Well, Spike never said that Twilight was dead. Only that he remembered his days with her. Not to mention, part of Twilight's plan was to protect the dragons' fire magic from Opaline and who better to help follow through with that plan than Spike? Just because Spike isn't with her, doesn't necessarily mean that she's dead. Until the writers themselves say otherwise, I'm going to hold onto the possibility that Twilight is still alive.
YES THEORY!!!!!!!
Thank you Anubis! I’m sure this is great! I can’t wait to see Wind Striker’s theory on this!
We'll see if Wind takes a stance on this, Idk if he can say anything that Nameless and I havent said already, but its possible
@@doc_anubis Star Striker always have strange takes on episodes and feels like he tries to hate it on purpose. Often asking questions that supposed to remain a mystery like "what happened to Skyros" or "Why Opaline didn't attack earlier" and using it as arguments that G5 doesn't make sense and is badly written. It pisses me off. He doesnt understand the concept of slow reveals of mysteries and lore building.
Were talking about Wind Striker, not Star Strike, you aren't wrong though
I know, I hate it when people do this! And yes, we are talking about Wind Striker.
I feel I've come up with an explanation using the info till now
Theory:Opaline Arcana grew alongside Luna and Celestia,maybe their sister or cousin. But since Luna and Celestia had the"whole sun and moon thing going" she felt left out when they left to rule equestria from skyros on starswirls request, this caused her to be powermad and she started rampaging skyros which led to her banishment after which she came to equestria, the. Celestia and Luna saw her threat and banished her to the stars, fast forward to whrn Nightmare Moon was banished, Celestia knew that Opaline would help Nightmare moon escape so that either they could come back as a duo and terrorize equestria, so she aided in her escape as in the prophecy, but the spell cast on Opaline was strong so she couldn't escape and the rest is history, she came back and as Spike said she wanted all the magic to herself etc etc..
That doesnt quite make sense. We know that she was banished from Skyros, not kept there
@@doc_anubis then when could she have been banished
I hope we get to see skyros in the secret of starlight
It would definitely be cool to get more details about all of this in the future
it’d be cool but it may also be a bit too early
I personally think that Skyros is technologically advanced & Mesopotamian in design.
wait..a second,. if alicorns represent some elements, emotions,etc. does this mean that there is a possiblity that we have evil born alicorns? make no mistake, nightmare moon was created out of jealousy and opaline is bad also beacause of it...but i wonder....if candace represent love, can it be that an alicorn of hate can exist? or if twlight represents friendship we can have an alicorn of...em..the opposite of friendship? and here is a funny one. if candance is the alicorn of love, can we have an alicorn of lust? tho for this show..that sounds a bit to much
Potentially, all of that would be possible
with that logic there could be an alicorn of chaos and if there is something tells me that alicorn and discord would be best friends
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 i mean yeah but the way i see it discord was just there to balance the world. how can i put it...i don't think chaos is bad. it is neutral dare i say. and when was most likely discord created? when there was to much harmony or good if you want to look at it that way. the way i see it...discord is beyond an alicorn. alicorns have to respect the rules or word..they have blood, bones...and discord? my guy can get split in half and laugh at you. discord is chaos itself...a thing that the world needs to balance the good and bad. and by that extent i mean to call discord almost a god. alicorns represent emotions, elements..discord represent a part of the world and existince...does...that make sense? and sorry for the long thing. kind of got lost in all of it
@@doc_anubis tho i would much rather not see an alicorn of lust...i am not ready to see an alicorn expresing desire...and i don't even want to imagine how our so presumed alicorn of lust look. good episode btw man. i love this sort of content.
@@trifosu1386 ya and chaos or harmany isnt an emotion or element so ya that adds up
I have believed this as well! When the sisters said Equestria never saw an alicorn born?
It is because they mean since the nation was founded! They existed before the 3 tribes in other words.
Flurry got the wings from cadence
Probably, but it still was the first time it happened, which was beyond their understanding at the time
Can you do a video explaining Princess_Cadence from the MLP FIM show like why was she introduced when she married Twilight's big brother and how come we never solve any love problems for other ponies besides flashbacks?
That would only come down to talking about the book with her backstiry, followed by comics I already covered on my channel
@@doc_anubis I highly doubt that makes sense cause the Comics are branched from the MLP FIM show since everything that happened there was never mentioned in the show
And the reason the 2 sisters say its beyond there understanding is maybe before getting there cutie mark the can't remember anything up to that point of what happened to them
I feel like the Water Alicorn will be Poseidon.
Are these Alicorn characters like Twilight Sparkle, Celestia and Luna in the G5 universe counterparts from the G4 universe? Is there any way to prove that they're not the same characters from the G4 universe instead they are alternate versions of them?
Excuse me but don't when opaline says dragon hibernation in the finale of chapter 4 possibly means that spike and the other dragons are still alive somewhere in G5
I never liked the concept of the alicorn civilisation. I think it's a last resort so that we can somehow explain the whole alicorn concept to ourselves.
I would explain the origin of the alicorns differently. In my opinion, they are all artificial (except Flurry). Considering only the t.v. series (I didn't go to other sources) it can be explained.
The raising of the Sun and Moon required the participation of a group of unicorn ponies (exhausting). Back when the 3 pony groups were still freshly united they needed leaders, protectors and everything else needed in a kingdom. Starswirl came up with a spell to combine the magic of all the races (to represent all the elements), which also solved the issue of the day and night cycle (creating a pony powerful enough to do the raising on its own). Celestia and Luna may have belonged to the same race of high unicorns as Princess Amore. We can assume that this was a highly magical race, destined for greatness (needs further explanation).
In order not to elaborate, here are a few more comments.
Opaline may have lied about her shared past with Cel and Luna; 2. Opaline may be the daughter of Flurry; 3. Opaline's task could be to restore the Flame of Friendship. This is why Twilight created the artefacts (Opaline failed); 4. How do alicorns die? (!important if we want to consider new gen ponies)
That's all thank you :>
That would contradict what we know from the Journal of the Two Sisters, but I know that is a debatable source, same with the other sources that depict Celestia and Luna as alicorn fillies, so I get why one wouldnt go for that explanation, its theoririzing, everyone is free to believe what they want, its even more fair if you believe Opaline is lying, it wouldnt make sense for her to lie imo, but still a fair enough take
Just like Flurry Heart was born an Alicorn and Twilight Sparkle did an impossible task to become an Alicorn, How did Princess_Cadence and the royal sisters became Alicorns?
Did you even listen to the video? Im sorry, but for the sisters, I just thouroughly explained that they were born as alicorns. For Cadance, we know that she was a Pegasus before and earned herself the horn after discovering her love magic. That is from the chapter book "Twilight Sparkle anbd the Crystal Heart Spell"
@@doc_anubisI was just about to say a similar thing
the sisters were born as alicorns
@@doc_anubisif the royal sisters were born as Alicorns, the question is who is their mother
Someone in the mentioned alicorn civilization, so there is no way to know
So in the video u say thare r elementul n concept alicorns but when u said that it made me have a little theory that neutrality born alicorns r elementul kind while artificial ones represent concepts
Its impossible by now anyways since we have the info that Opaline made herself into a fire alicorn and wasnt born as one. As for the difference between the artificial and natural born ones, thats possible, maybe that they have different kind of potentials. Though I dont know if Luna and Celestias things could be called elemental
@@doc_anubis tbh it's sed that such interesting lore isn't explored it could of been cool to have a movie or a season to focus on this for example season 8 could of been used for that
I mean, they are going into it now@@povas9698
Imagine if Skyros is basically a pony version of Viltrum
Doesnt really seem like it based on what we know so far
Also, I wouldn’t say that Cadance is an Artificial Alicorn. She’s a Love Alicorn. We have no evidence that Celestia gave her wings.
We sure do, in the chapter book "Twilight and the Crystal Hear Spell" we hear Cadance backstory, she is a unicorn that was found as a Pegasus and only became an alicorn later in life
Well that doesn’t mean Celestia gave her wings. She still technically isn’t artificial if she got her wings from getting magic from all three pony types some other way, like getting the love from and connecting with the Crystal Heart.
And I suppose since everyone accepts this as canon, I do too now.
@@doc_anubis that book contradicts show canon by gilda still being in ponyville and trixie still being a jerk. therefore, dubious canon.
princess celestia and princess Luna are the children of queen galaxia and king cosmos which was the ruler of equestria they were unicorns and became alicorns after
Those are fandom created characters, not part of any official media that we could use as evidence
Like, where was this the whole time?
the Nameless One used it and talked about it about a year ago
Sawtooth got it right....
That was Nameless who made that theory tho, not Saw
@@doc_anubis fair point
I bagsy the water alicorn title!
I think personally that the fact that Opaline was jealous of them proves they weren't born alicorns. Hear me out, but I think it proves they were born unicorns and became alicorns. Imagine would think she is more powerful, but it's not true because the Two sisters had to earn their wings. I think Celestia and Luna were sent off to learn about alicorns by Starswirl. A Prince would be been left in their place, this Prince was the one in the book from the first hearts and hooves day episode. This would lead to "chaos reining". This sisters then would be heard of the turmoil of Equestria and went to fight discord. But, this is just my theory.
And how would have Opaline become an alicorn then? She doesnt seem like she could really earn it with what she had
Most of this is very theory based.
The alicorns in Skyros are born naturally to embody a part of nature that needs to be ruled. Thats why Flurry was born an alicorn as well, she was needed as the princess of Hope. Opaline would've been born as the alicorn of fire because that element was needed at the time of her birth. Celestia and Luna became alicorns after the alicorns of the sun and moon died for whatever reason and the unicorns could no longer continue the task on their own.
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But luna said it was the beyond the understanding
As I explained here in the video, what is beyond their understanding is that its born between a unicorn and an artificial alicorn like Cadance
So happy this theory has more backbone, maybe it really is true.
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Not my fault lol, cant really turn it off yet
@@doc_anubis i mean it is iconic in some way
The new show made alicor s un special
I'd say it explained their special-ness
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