Dungeon floorplans - caverns and casting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2015
- Dungeon floorplans for role-play games and the like, with a suggestion for how to represent caverns easily.
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Making fancy floorplans for role play games can be rewarding, and it can be time-consuming and unnecessary. Here, I show you some high-end stuff and warn you about it, and propose some compromises: one for adventures set in caverns (or, I suppose, narrow ravines), and one for those armed with a printer.
I'm afraid that the prize draw mentioned at the end has now happened. You are too late.
Here are the links for this video:
The Lindybeige dungon scenery give-away (Gleam):
gleam.io/TLS5z/lindybeige-dun...
Woodland Scenics (embankments mould):
woodlandscenics.woodlandscenic...
Papercraft Dungeons:
www.papercraftdungeon.com
Prince August:
www.princeaugust.ie
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Dungeon floorplans - caverns and casting
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Is it just me or has Lindy seemingly kept the original packaging from every single thing he's ever bought?
Does he look like the sort of person that throws anything away?
@@hanleysoloway7965 no! Not even cut a rope.
You know, Lindybeige, me being a German from a country where dry humour is in desperately short supply, I enormously enjoy every single one of your videos. How do you British manage to explain the most mundane things without batting an eye and still make me p... myself laughing?! One of your most endearing national character traits...
Lindybeige is actually a celestial being who made a youtube channel just to interact with humans. None of the other gods think humans are worth their time but Lindybeige is different. ALL HAIL LINDYBEIGE!
Do you have anything in beige?
Considering lindy is a fan of tabletop games and models, I wonder if he has an opinion of WH40k. I doubt he does, but it'd be really funny if he had a custom space marine legion akin to the Angry Marines or the Flesh Helms.
+SpitshineSneakers If he does, I imagine he prefers 1st, maybe 2nd edition with its greater emphasis on DIY and less grim-dark. I warrant he'd prefer Imperial Guard or Orks to Spess Muhreens
Ben Kirkby True. IG probably plays fairly close to that Crossfire game he plays. I mainly pointed out the marines because they're easier to customize without having to make totally new models.
+SpitshineSneakers Blatantly an Eldar str-D spamming power gamer ;P
I remember him making an offhand reference to WH(unspecified if 40k or regular) in the wargaming sections of LloydianAspects.co.uk
+SpitshineSneakers It is a way of selling expensive figures. I'm not a fan. The games tend to lack tactical skill, and the winner is usually the one with the biggest guns. Dense formations of men with very powerful weaponry stand in the open and shoot each other. The winning side usually suffers horrendous unsustainable casualties.
I love watching these older videos. Reminds me of that time he was talking about, when everything was made of wood, or paper, or cheap metal, which was usually dangerously unfinished, with sharp edges and corners, and often had many choking hazards for the little ones. And all for mere pennies! Ah, the good old days!
Are fancy floorplans and models the "Gameplay vs Graphics" of the desktop RPG world?
+Longboard Technology I think so.
+Longboard Technology I"d say it's sometimes exactly like that. Some people think nice looking tables are the best. Some think they're completely unnecessary and detrimental.
Other times it's more like the modding scene... it's a whole separate hobby tied to the main hobby, that's just as satisfying, and when done right definitely helps to enhance the experience of playing the game.
bravesirkevin
Although comparable, the arguments counter arguments are kind of reversed for the two areas.
Luke DS
Yeah, though it really comes down to the kind of game being played. One with a heavy focus on story is hindered by all sorts of terrain as it narrows down the possibilities dramatically... There are loads of places where you're a lot better off relying on imagination than having a fully decked out doll's house. In that case the graphics vs gameplay argument is totally valid.
On the other hand, a game focused on strategy and tactics might benefit incredibly from having a nice variety of good terrain... Having an interesting battleground that is full of things you can work with to your advantage and challenging terrain that you have to deal with is something that a lot of players really enjoy, and it's that group that this sort of thing works for. In this case the 3d environment is actually enhancing the gameplay as well as making things look prettier.
Within DnD you're likely to encounter both types of gameplay, so the value of things like this depends on the group and how they like to play the game.
I have one word that handles much of this....DOMINOES. Handles all shapes and sizes of dungeons, doors, caverns, outdoor settings, trees, and actually horses as well. Oh, and use the dominoes for scaling for distances, movement and the like. 1 domino = 10 feet or 2 yards, etc., etc., etc. Changes instantly for new situations.
You, sir, are a genius
This is the best ad for a website I've ever seen.
I m really impressed by the papercraft dungeon. Nice details on the texture or in the angle of each surface (for the chairs for example) and customization.
Nice !
very much appreciate the 80s Excalibur reference
I was one of the winners! Thanks LindyBeige! These cardboard props will make a great addition to my group's dungeon-tile D&D adventures. I'm running a 3.5 pirate campaign, based loosely on the book Storm Wrack. We often use dungeon tiles and miniatures to illustrate dungeons, but also often come up short with furniture. So these cardboard props will help a lot.
usually when youtubers advertise something it's a bit crass, even though I understand they need to make a bit of sponsorship cash or receive some free goods, but when Lloyd does it it's like a magical Christmas adventure and I want some paper floor plans wooooo
+Han Lockhart Okay, then don't. There's no need to bitch about something when it's given as an OPTION.
+chemistrycounts hahahahahahahaha. I just thought the advert seemed fitting to his channel, better than Davidoff cool water I suppose
+Han Lockhart I'm in the same boat. I love the effort he put into the presentation, but still spam is spam. There was more promo on that marketing/research site, than where the actual paper templates came from. :(
+Han Lockhart The key part is 'don't need to'. You of course don't need to do anything, but don't hate on the offer for existing.
+Han Lockhart I am also not a mindless sycophant, I believe and always have done, that Lloyds channel has a child like innocence to it,and it brings it out In me, like trumpton or bitzapieces, that's why I enjoyed the advert , it was presented like a nineties advert ,and made me feel like a young lad at Christmas for a second, and I enjoyed that, any revenew he erns off it he deserves in my opinion, the man provides free co.tent and needs to make a living, I think your just a terrible bore.
Fantastic, more modelling videos. Easily my favourite videos of his, keep it up Lloyd!
The plastic insert is very smart but I can see how it'd be messy. Nice to know you're a fan of the WS and HA molds mate, I love them. Good luck with the comp!
+TheTerrainTutor molds and pouring are a messy business :)
TheDMGinfo
Yeah, but the results are so worth it! :)
+TheTerrainTutor use pottery clay for less mess... access to a kiln will help you make it more permanent
I use poseable action figures, and the stories fill entire rooms using whatever is there. Looking at the world behind you I see towers, monuments with possible machinery involved - a puzzle to be solved perhaps, craggy mountainsides, a treacherous jungle-like plain with a building next to a mysterious giant archway. And dark caverns everywhere leading to who knows where... What a wondrous land to explore!
I can't believe you don't have more subs I have never seen you videos before and I can say I love them you make some great content
Oh for my times sake! You made me start with Dungeons and dragons again. It's kinda like an addiction ain't it?
Congratulations, you managed to make something that was half an ad still seem interesting. this is a rare talent, use it only for good.
God, that takes me back! My brother and I used to make dungeon outlines with pebbles and small rocks way back in the dark ages when fantasy miniatures were still loads of fun!
The cavern idea is neat and seems simple enough. Will need to remember that.
Love the videos. Keep them coming. Good luck.
Hi Lloyd, glad to see you've found some sponsored content that meshes with the stuff you like to make videos about.
Second Excalibur reference I've spotted in the last few days of watching Lindy. The man has good taste.
I once made a WW1 trench system for my nephew who needed it for a school presentation. Pilbox positions, sleeping quarters and the whole shebang. Foam, covered in wallplaster and wood. The paint used was natural colors mixed with sand to get it grainy. Sadly I forgot to take a picture of it prior me giving it to my nephew. He threw it away after the school presentation. I guess he did not realize it took me two weeks to build. :D
That dungeon system is a rare thing to have. Been looking for it for a while
My favorite solution is using one of those plastic, gridded surfaces that you can use dry erase markers on. You can draw on it. It's great for using mini's on. The players and you can jot notes on it. It works really well and it's useful in many ways because you can use multiple ink colors to highlight different things.
very organized place, looks like you take full use of the largest shelf that your table is on
I still have my Prince August 3 mold set of dwarves and the lead ladle. I loved casting those things. I got it at the Canadian National Exposition (CNE) in the early ‘80’s. My dad paid $10.50 for it. I was shocked because it wasn’t even my birthday. I wish I could have gotten more or even one of this dungeon set. That would have been really cool. Thanks for the video!
I feel rather lucky that I live in a time you can get any building made from MDF in 28mm scale. Modern war games are so much easier.
+gimzod76 I am getting a laser cutter for exactly this reason. 0.5mm cuts and engraving ftw. i might layer bits up and make and sell molds actually.
+therealquade And now with 3D printers is even easier, and in a few years even cheaper
suck this games workshop, your evilness kingdom is doomed!
+gimzod76 Hear hear!
+gosonegr AND THEN GW BANNED ALL NON-OFFICIAL FIGURINES FROM GW STORES AND A LARGE PART OF THE PLAYERBASE CRIED OUT IN SORROW!
+gimzod76 I discovered laser cut MDF terrain only recently. ANd after about a month, my 6x4 table is covered in an industrial city of the stuff. Strong and sturdy and takes paint like a charm. It's wargaming bliss gawdammit.
That rooms looks like my hobby room xD love your vids! :D good to see some classics again.
Dat flawless transition to the Excalibur reference
Very cool idea. I can see that being quite simple actually. I should have thought of that.
I don't really like to compete in such things but this sounds like an amazing way to make in the real world visual aids for my writing, I often end up completely lost in 3D space since I have no sense of orientation whatsoever except "What direction Point A is in" which I have to keep track of consciously so this paper style would be pretty useful! I could glue them to a table, board or even the wall with that blue sticky tack stuff!
loved the excalibur reference!
Nice Excaliber quote at the start. made my day
It's like that dream you always had, of having a huge room with a huge table, filled with miniatures and a moving train.
Except this time, instead of a train, you get orcs and stuff. Much more exciting!
I really like your game props. I don't use props like those with my RPG games (an most, a vinyl mat with chess pieces, to get it setup quickly), but I use them with "dungeon crawl" board games like HeroQuest - which is a fairly extensive collection. Thanks of the idea with the cavern rocks!
When me and my friends roleplay (WFRP), we usually use verbal descriptions only, with a quickly scribbled map of the surroundings now and then (usually for large scale - to show paths, roads and natural obstacles between towns). This is especially convenient because our sessions are often focused on traveling, so we change locations a lot.
Back in the day my buddy had those Prince August floorplan molds, and I made a bunch of walls. Enough to make a small keep with sheer cliff walls and a tall tower. Never used it for anything though, and as it turned out, the 4-5 level tower was so tall that most Warhammer spells couldn't reach the ground. So much for having a battle wizard in there...
At this point it has become quite clear to me that I would enjoy playing a game with you sometime, oceans be damned.
Most of the DMs nowadays use this plastic grid sheet along with water-based colored markers to rapidly sketch out a building, or an outdoor area, and the grid pattern is permanent. It's not as colorful as yours, but much quicker to alter to different surroundings.
Very creative. I'd love to get hold of a 3D printer and see some of my 3D designs realised.
You can also use a regular gridded map and put the rocks on there instead of using a cloth. It'll allow for a seamless mix of freeform rock formations and existing papercraft stuff.
my Dungeon crawling team and I use minecraft and grid paper for most of our caves and ruins.
on some occasions we Will boot up Oblivion or Skyrim and use those layouts as well.
+Hermaeus Mora That's really smart. I imagine myself being a dungeon master and create something fast, and then sit on skype (or something) with friends to play it with pen and paper. Orcs would be green clay blocks while fire elementals would be red blocks, is it something like that how it works?
+Mongis Lort No, he just means that he plays skyrim and mine craft with his friends.
Sigurd Eberstark Skyrim is a singleplayer game. And I'm pretty sure he said he only used the games for the layout. Read it again, it's right up there.
+Mongis Lort 1v1 irl bra. He totally said that he just plays video games. where did he say he uses the layouts? bitch is you drunk?
+Mongis Lort
for minecraft it's easy because each square is 1 meter. as for the skyrim cave/dungeon/ruin etc, it's a bit more difficult. that's when the grid paper comes in handy.
I prefer to create dungeons and towns from scratch. however when pressed for time I use the skyrim strategy guides maps for reference. towns and homesteads don't require a grid unless a fight breaks out.
we don't just use skyrim or minecraft either. Several of our passed dungeons were based off of many other games novels and even movies.
such as zelda. the sword of truth series by terry goodkind, and Dune the motion picture (emperors throne room).
3D printing something like this would be a handy way to get the proportions right. With proper measurements you could have the exact parts fit flawlessly and easily make new sections of walls or floors when needed.
We need more "Lindy talks Dungeons"
When I was a kid I loved the Colditz boardgame map which used circles rather than hexes and squares.
It's really funny that you put this up now, because I was just finishing a program to randomly generate mazes(or dungeons). In high definition ASCII of course. Not really relevant, but kind of a funny coincidence.
I have a great idea! On the bottom of the tiles, glue some velcro on the bottom, and make the mat with velcro, so they will stick together!
You might want to take a look at some of the variants of DMScotty's 2.5D work.
Easy way that I've found is to get an old wood burning stylus, 2.5 inch plywood squares (I use Woodcrafter), and craft sticks. The up of the grid to 1.25" makes it easier to deal with and allows walls to work right if you use older maps (where walls were just lines on a grid that couldn't be crossed, perhaps a bit thicker there, Wyloch has videos that explain it better there).
Take a pencil and mark the grid lines on the that gives you 4 spaces per tile. Any tile that would have a wall (or walls) has the craft sticks glued onto the on those edges (which reduces the squares on those sides slightly, but keeps them at 1" which still fits most standard miniature base sizes for normal characters in the 25-32mm range).
Use the stylus to burn in the stonework, both for the walls and the floor, starting with the grid lines. Then prime, paint, & seal...
More I know you, Lindy, more I'm amazed.
I'm so sorry I'm actually working on another project that is huge and has a deadline that I probably was too hasty in drawing, but that is - maybe I'll email you about it in the future when things will be running smoothly ^-^
We use lego. You can customize your characters, swap weapons etc. You can also build up props or just put lego bricks in the shape of your dungeon. We use a grid. We have drawn a grid on a 48x48 grey lego baseplate (with a pencil so you can get it off). Works like a charm. :)
Tipp for the Wall things.
If you cast them - put some small Rare-Earth Magnets into the cast. To keep them im Place while the Resin hardens out you can use Magnets from the outside of the Mold to keep them to a certain height.
That way the Parts will hook easily. Only Problem would be to cast them with the right polar-direction - so that the Walls later dont shove each other away ^^
For a Solid Gorund you can use a Steelplate and then just tuck everything on it by magic :D
Hi, I recently found Lindybeige's videos. Huge fan, Plz make more weapon videos. Perhaps Nunchuku. Historicaly accurate of course.
Nice Excalibur reference. Love that film.
Great video!
wheeeeey, always nice to see some glorantha
I love your videos.
If you make them slightly bigger and have two of them it'd allow you to constantly reconfigure them under the table while the other is being used.. But the amount of props to convey so many areas would be crazy..
Rather then a cloth sheet I use a "Battlemat" which is a sheet of vinyl printed to look like aged paper with brown 1" grid squares. The vinyl can be drawn on with markers and easily erased and the squares are large enough for D&D miniatures to be used on it. We also have standalone 3d elements such as doors and things but they're never used, we just tend to draw stuff on it in different colors
I was working on an idea that involved 1:64 scale, (Hot Wheels and model train scale) miniatures and sets. Range would be measured with lengths of string attached to an icon. This way you could use existing models, train sets, and toys (say from a rummage sale) as props.
For exampleample, you want your character to fire a rifle. You would have a string attached to a small toy rifle (as an icon) and you would put one end of the string next to your character and extend the other end in the direction of your target. Of you have string enough to reach your target or past, you are in range. If there are objects in the the way, subtract a penalty. If you wanted to get elaborate, you could color the string for long and short distances if it affects the stats. Walking or running distance could use a tiny toy shoe attached to a string the same way, and could bend around corners with your path.
Oooohhh, those look like some snazzy bunkers in the background at 4:40
I love the opening reference to Excalibur (1981). Is there a Lindybeige review of the weapons and armor from that movie? The armors in particular looked to be late 15th century, but there's a lot of mix-n-match, too.
The music was a nice touch!
Thankfully I live in an area of varied Topography, meaning I can Acquire essentially any rock types my heart could desire for molds(or skip the middle man and just use the rocks). Having Actual resources saves a lot of the trouble of painting and gluing and all that jazz.
Glorantha! I didn't know there was a a tabletop component of that world. I remember fondly playing King of Dragon Pass back in the day...
Which plaster are you using for your molds? I use dental stone. I am looking for a cheaper plaster that can survive my gaming group. Thank you.
Hey Lindy .I've been watching your videos for a while now and i think it would be a great and wild idea for you to try to get BBC involved in creating a television program where you be the host and talk about the realities about actual warfare vs the movies.
Instead of marking a grid you can use a fabric/seamstress tape measure. It is floppy so you can wrap it around obstacles to check movement speed or hold it taught to verify missile ranges. Even better if players don't get one and micro optimize their turns and the GM only uses it if he feels like verifying if a player can do whatever.
Grid systems are usually 1" in burger land so that's pretty handy with a tape measure that uses inches. Oh, my rifle shoot 50" at +1? *zip* And they got the center button to push to suck all the tape back in.
... Plaster dungeons? I am amazed and, at the same humbled at the craftsmanship and patience of the project, as mine own dungeon walls/floors/etc use foamboard panels plus some painting :s
Thanks lindy
Are they sponsoring your stuff Lloyd? Good for you!
I've got to admit, that was a pretty good plug
Good Merlin impression!
The best videos are the ones with RPG toys and stuff like the tanks.
2 weeks left?! I better get entered soon!
Oi, lindy, if this was a sponsored video and not just you having a giggle with your own competition, you should post a disclaimer (in the description or say so in the video) that you have been payed to do that sort of thing.
+CZProtton No money changed hands. It's exactly as he said, he wanted to run a competition and we offered up prizes.
bravesirkevin Alright then, still an add, but not a sponsored video. Thanks for clarification, some guy who I suppose has something to do with the nice paper DnD thingies :)
+CZProtton Yeah, I'm the designer.
+CZProtton Apparently it's not sponsored but yeah I get you, it was really ad-ish. I think part of that was because he's just enthusiastic about what he does, so even when he's promoting someone elses' stuff he sounds like a used car salesman. XD
+CZProtton Had I been paid, I would have, but I wasn't paid. Papercraft donated the prizes for free, and I thought that it would be nice to give them away. Possibly this might generate some on-line 'buzz' that might be good for my channel.
What are the rocks made of? I may have missed it in the video.
Your Merlin was pitch! , relatively
what was the good luck ending font done in?
Pretty neat, but what do you think of Roll20?
that was an epic competition announcement. I wish the best of luck to you american peeps
Love the RuneQuest reference.
You can look into DwarvenForge if you want to do this today. They're cool, but I don't really understand purchasing them for so much money and using them very few times when you could accomplish just as much in your imagination or on a sheet of grid paper.
One land, one king! That is my peace, Cornwall!
Nice Excalibur quote Merlin. :)
Maximum flame on burning skeletons. Obviously.
I made a massive Hirst Arts modular dungeon. Lloyd is right, it never gets used. I love it, and everyone wants to play on it once, but after that it loses the novelty and it's a hassle to set up.
Those floorplans look pretty sweet, but I don't think I'd use them enough myself sadly.
Oh man, now I feel like rewatching Excalibur.
This is too awesome, too bad I don't have any interested companions to run across some of those dungeons.
I cut out the faffing about making models and I just use my tablet and some drawing software to represent the floor plan. The players can use the touch screen to move about and the scenery is literally anything I can find an image file of. the ruler tool of the drawing software is used to measure distances for missile weapon ranges.
Where did he buy the freestanding pieces? I quite like them
I'd really like to watch Lloyd and Matthew Colville have a video or podcast on RPGs.
I wonder how many people will enter?
Well I did, after which I then realized, like a father waking up from a night of drinking, that I really don't have time to do what I want anymore. I'll still except it if I win. Christmas gift to a friend (who still does this stuff, ah nostalgia) since I won't be able to use them I suppose.
So this a bit off topic but I am currently working on my own RPG game and I was wondering if anyone knows of a roleplaying system that primarily focuses on percent chance? Also I've been looking for people to take a couple looks at it for some critical advice so if you're curious just give me a reply.
how is the mail armour going any chance of a quick update video. thanks
+yermanoh Very strong chance of update video...
What rpg systems you use? That do not require grid and all? (though I have never played RPG on tabletop)
Also tagental question, do you play other kinds of board games (besides RPG and "wargames"), like more traditional (say go, chess) or modern commercial games (powergrid maybe?), or "indy-ish" "un-comercializable" abstracts (hex, havannah)? Though somehow I'm strongly inclined to guess no?:).
+morphles Almost no games that aren't dedicated skirmish games 'require' a grid. Yeah they help make outcomes more exact and easily to replicate but the point of a tabletop RPG is to have fun and tell a story not niggle about with details like whether or not that Orc is one foot out of range for your Magic Missile.
+morphles I play loads of games, such as the German-style board games, table-top wargames, RPGs (whatever is being run).
Slate would be fantastic. Easily smashable and nice and jagged. :)
+Quodge *Wild slate that is.. :P