They are not dragging Ace. Ace put himself in that shithole 1xbet for more than 2 years now. Veewise started Rivalry for a little more than a month. If you call that fair, only God knows how your itsy bitsy mind is working. If you only know how much of an impact this duo has in PH and how much of a legend they are especially their M3 run. You will definitely feel wronged like the whole PH. Even non-Blacklist fans respect this duo and their contributions.
Di ako fan ng veewise pero From the word greatest dapat sa achievement binabase. Buti Sana kung most popular player Sana hinanap ni moontoon dun pwede botohan.. apaka bias kc😂😂😂
😂 because 1xbet pays moonton and rivalry is a competition for 1xbet. Simple as that. Moneyton doesn't give a fck about gambling sites, if its paying good money then all is good.
kung ganun bat' may rules si moonton na bawal mag promote na betting site diba word palang ng "betting site" is 1xbet na edi sana ilagay ni moonton na bawal mag promote ng betting except the 1xbet lol wahahahha
No moontoon ban all betting gambling company a Cambodian player get banned for promoting gambling didn't zapnu and doggie got kick out of the mpl ph because of gambling?
MLBB greatest 10 players is for promotion not a legit greatest players..MLBB does not want to be kicked off in mobile world. Don't cry ace, make yourself champion first.. to the regions that does not have any title, you do not deserve the greatest players title.. dont cry.. this is for promotion by moonton.. Someday moonton will fall down like COC.. you're not forever moonton.. always remember that.. uninstall button is coming.🎉
When they added that criteria midway of nomination moontoon was just looking for a reason to exclude them. I don't even think it's about Rivalry anymore. Something happened midway and the only thing I can think of is the "ph carried indo" issue. Veewise is still on the thumbnail of the voting links so that means they're supposed to be part of the nominees. Power tripping talaga to and overkill yung ginagawa ni Moontoon, the fact na overlook nila yung kay Ace means it was an immediate decision, they have no time to do a research or background check sa ibang nominees.
I respect wise and vee since their dream high & onic days, ilang season at competition outside s PH bago nila m de-throne ang strategy nila, tingin ko p nga sinadya rn n moonton i nerf talaga mga hero neto n V33 "popol tank, kaja support lalo n ung distance ng 2nd skill at rang ng ulti, mathilda nerf, rafaela ability to soak heavy damage, etc." para lang m tulungan ibang players outside ph n m decode sila.
1. Call me homophobic...pero ayoko din sa kulturang ganyan... PERO...."Give credit where credit is due"... Mapabading man yan o hinde... That duo is a LEGEND. 2. Clarity. Kung ginawa din yan sa paborito nyong brusko na player, baka yung iba dito humingi din ng clarfication sa Moonton.
wala naman publema kung bading yung dalawa eh kahit hindi veewise ang ma nominate si veenus well deserved. Lagi silang talo dati sa sunsparks nung onic palang pero makikita mo nung naging aura na yung sunsparks dun na biglang lumaka shotcall ni veenus.
WHAT HAPPENED IF NO LESBIAN AND GAY IN OUR WORLD WE ALL MORE OVER POPULATIONS? KAYA SA MGA GALIT SA IBANG GENDER BAGO NA KAYO GA SARADO UTAK NINYO KAYA LAKAS NINYO MAPANGHUSGA
Blud 💀.Of course they are going to talk about the guy, the reason why they are excluded in GOAT according to Moonton is bcz they are promoting gambling, on the otherhand this guy who is promoting gambling isn't just part of the GOAT conversation which is contradicting to why they excluded this both legend. It isnt just that they are the most accomplished player in this scene and this Ace guy is just a grand finalist yet he's No. 1 like wtf 💀.
Now they can be happy.They said they wanted fairness and end up dragging down other person.Don't even argue,that namely action was what normally called ''dragging down with us''.
Just want to put this here. In the criteria, it says 'ilegal activities'. Yes, gambling is NEVER GOOD... However it MAY NOT be ilegal in some regions or culture (work, country, etc.). So I guess ang kulang dito is proper explanation. Hindi ko dinedefend Veewise, si Ace, o kung sino man pero malabo o vague ang definition so I seriously think this is not about gambling (not unless verbatim sabihin ni montoon). So it is either: paniniko ni Moonton kay Tier One (BLK mother company) kasi sinusuportahan din nila ibang games, or bias sa lgbtqia+ (na kung ganon pala, sana di na nila pinalaro ang veewise, si rosa, etc.) and pumayag lang sila na may miyembro ng lgbtqia+ na maglaro para masabing 'inclusive' sila.
Medyo tagilid kung based sa pagiging gay Yan ni Vee. Kasi buong BLCK (M3) parang tinatarget eh. It's most definitely about Blacklist not being a Mobile Legends only org. They have other moba games too like Dota, which we know Moonton doesn't like. Basically, may mark na sa likod ang BLCK org dahil may iba silang Moba team at moba games na nilalaro. Ang nangyayari nalang ay kung Sino man sa mga players ang nakagawa or medyo palapit na sa paggawa ng mga "illegal actions" ay yun agad ang tinatarget. For example, naooverlook si Oheb pero wala siya sa nominations and ang main reason ay yung Middle finger siya which is really VERY TAME when you consider the possible illegal acts those players who'll be excluded could've done. Pero si Moonton, ginamit yung reason na iyon para maalis si Oheb sa nominations. Sa VeeWise Naman, rivalry nalang irarason nila. Ngayon, wala sila masabi kay Hadji at Edward kanya di nila ma exclude. Sakit na talaga ni Moonton Yan. Ayaw nila na may kahati sila sa Isang org or players. Diba nawala rin si Shinboo sa shout casting because of almost the same reason. Gusto ng ML na sa kanya lang nagfofocus lahat.
Finally some is talking reasonable. After all that is the decision of MPL PH. It have nothing to do with ACE or Myanmar region or higher board of Moonton. And you are right about the "illegal activity". Rivalry in one problem. Aside from the gambling sponsor, Philippines is a Catholic county. And the constitution is against same sex union. This is one reason MPL PH can't say publicly because such statement can be political incorrect in some county. But secretly they don't want that. In summary, MPL PH doesn't want to promote Gambling and Homosexuality. Which is why Veewise is getting attack, not by other, by MPL PH.
Most competitive games prohibit betting/gambling on their Policies. That's what makes it "illegal". Although I haven't really read mlbb policies so I'm not sure
Ang issue lang dito is consistency ng pag implement ng policy ng moontoon. Dapat hindi selective gaya sa bawal kina veewise mag promote ng gambling app pero hindui kay Ace.
The factors for determining the greatest player specially in e-sports often include individual skill, strategic understanding, achievements in tournaments, adaptability, teamwork, and contributions to the game's development or community and overall influence. Consistent success in high-stakes competitions and the ability to perform well in various roles and situations are also crucial considerations. So i wonder why montoon having grudge with Blacklist or to veewise even though we all know and the world knows that they deserve a spot for this? Just for the Estes skin? Petty excuse and reasons for me... Just a sad to see veewise of (blacklist) are not there and i am also sad for the side of ACE of Myanmar you know he just got a spot and montoon put him there its not him that nominate himself you know, snappy salute for him, for turning down that spot. But for me still ACE have long way to go before we tell that he is GOAT. Just my piece.
with all these issues, that greatest player nominations and winners will be a joke now due to the inconsistencies and irregularities with regards to their rules/guidelines 😢.
Who said they cursed and blamed Ace? They’re not speaking in English, maybe that’s the reason why you did not understand them. I will translate it for you: They were just asking why Ace was included in the list, why is he included if the rules is very clear that betting sites are not allowed. They are not even blaming MOONTON , they were just asking, because they feel that they were betrayed by MOONTON. Not ACE my gosh! Get your facts straight!
Sa totoo lang hindi namn batayan ang voting para tawaging greatest player,yung achievement ng player ang totong greatest player kaya nga champion ka dahil malakas ka at tsaka teamwork din
If i am moonton i wouldn't like the people who give my game 1 star while i am the reason they are famous for. I think veewise will receive more hate from moonton by them saying these on interview. Sometimes you just need to agree to disagree and shut up Before people think I hate veewise, I love and support blacklist in M3 but them saying these will just make things worse
Lets be honest, the reason why Veewise is getting snubbed by Moonton is they getting too powerful and the impact and influence from them in the pro scene. Add the M3 skin issue.
i also have the same thought about them not being included to the nominees because they are always playing together, including the time time onic ph and blck swapped kairi with veewise.
He was a professional player from Myanmar competed with team BG in M2 world championship and got 2nd runner up. Yes he was skillfull jungler back then.
He was, and he already retired a long time ago. Just after the M2, the crisis from Myanmar military coup taking control over whole country makes pro players such as ACE lose their salary from being a mlbb pro player. (That time, mlbb was a chinese game so it become one of the games that people boycotted) which make ACE lose his place. This is when he quit being a professional player and become a streamer by promoting 1xbet in his stream because of money. It was 2 years ago until now.
Maybe because they are the latest winner and also and participating in M5, plus Indo fan base. More of Marketing strategy. But I think they deserve their spot on the trailer.
Power tripping si moontoon. Madami kasi followers ni Veewise kaya napapagtangol pa pero kung sakaling mangyari yung ganyan sa player na di mataas followers kawawa talaga.
Moonton is losing face. They have dug themselves into a deep hole. For such a professional org, they've shown themselves to be biased and unprofessional. Tsk.Tsk.Tsk.
I just deleted this trash ml game and will never play it again in support for veewise! Moondog has always been bias to indonesia! And i’m getting tired of it! I don’t support bias and unprofessional company🤡!!
Kind of werid behavior from veewise tbh. Why drag Ace who is retired from pro play, also from different country and he didn't even said a single about this situation. They basically said "If i drown, you should drown with me too". Btw i used to like these guys. But recent behavior of these two showed the true faces. Like when they dissed the the whole indo pro scene for no reason. So unlikable guys rn.
They aren't dragging anyone down, mate. Any critical minded person will find it weird and contradictive on why "Person A" is not allowed because of something, while "Person B", doing something exactly the same is allowed. Its contradictory and hypocritical. Lastly, these 2 had the biggest impact on MLBB as a whole spanning 2021-2023, and a whole meta was dedicated to them. The whole situation is strange as it is and it isn't wrong nor bad to be critical about it.
Huh??? What’s weird questioning moontoon? ACE is part of “Greatest player nominee” that’s why they’re questioning the rules posted by moontoon. You should check your comment dude. Every player should be equally judge. Not selective judge. Duh? Like v33wise cares if u support them or not.
I mean Ace is being quiet and doesn't deserved to be "dragged down" for sure. However, what about the Duo who grinded tf out of local and international competitions and topping these tournaments consistently for the past 3 years? Why did they get nothing, unlike Ace who hasn't achieved anything internationally besides M-series finalist?
Ace is not being dragged dude. If you watched the entire veewise podcast, they explicitly said that they were not doing this because they wanted to be part of the nominees or that they wanted to disqualify Ace as a nominee. They just want moonton to give them a clear explanation why they nominated Ace when in fact he is also promoting gambling. This is the problem if you only watch clips from the internet. Clips tend to misinterpret the purpose of the entire video of them commenting on the issue.
@@YuiraKunit's moonton's fault because of their inconsistency to their rules I know it's not Ace fault. if money is what they want they should've told VeeWise they don't like Rivalry because they don't give them a share lol.
No wonder... That moneyton always makes a problem... There is nothing wrong with V33Wise... They should definitely be on the list... Greatest Players mean what? Just decide on how they play... Secondly, that moneyton was cheating skins of Harley or Guinevere skins exactly like League of Legends Skins... Behave like they are so ethical and made lots of rules towards contestent... Give 1* to that App... That is what they deserve... Bias even between players... We want to vote for V33Wise where are they Moonton? Don't hide and come out to solve it... Where are Moonton representitive... They robbed money from players by selling expensive skins and make fans of V33Wise sad... Come out Moonton...
it's NOT name dropping, it's citing a conctete proof that Moonton is NOT consistent in applying and practicing it's own rules. Anong gusto mo mag ala Pinoy showbiz sila na mahilig sa blind item?
I don't really think it's about betting... Since Ace is also included in greatest players.. I think it's because they are gay😑😑... Moontoon does not want to include blacklist n them because of this reason...
mas ganda jan, malabas si moonton ng statement about sa mga issue yan diba para alamin natin bakit nagkakaganyan mga pangyayare tungkol sa rules na bawal daw mag promote ng betting site pero nakalusot ang 1xbet, M5 trailer bat walang highlight ng blacklist doon sa M3, lalo na si moonton galit sila kay veewise?, maraming pang issue diba yan ang dapat masagot ni moonton yan hahayss...
@@jay-arbonane6840yung 1xbet binabayaran ang moongtoong par kaya wala silang problema, habang yung Rivalry kompetinsya nila yun. Di rin kasama BLCK sa m5 trailer kasi associated sila sa Rivalry. Pera pera lng talaga yan🤣
Such shameless gays targeted ACE.Especially targeting players from Myanmar is really bad.They didint know how bad the situation is in Myanmar now?They have no choice but to do it to keep living as a streamer or a player.They need to think again about that and should apologise to ACE.
@@irishblasco9294 I wont even comment if I didn’t watch the video.They act like they don’t want the player to involve,so why they exposing him to the world without knowing the situation of Myanmar players and said they want fairness?You are the one who need to watch again and think again.
They dragg ace in this drama, they can contest or petition their names on the list of nomineess instead of dropping names, imagine ace shame facing this drama, damn this idiot couple making this big deal just to be relevant in the community. They make this so messy when infact they dont need this they are all well known players already. What will they even get on this 😢 this is voting anyway theres no good basis in choosing this bullshit top 10 legends
y'all are offended just by a clip that everyone doesn't even care about. It's not just you, M1 winner, Evos Legend is also not in it. So please don't make drama out of everything. The clip doesn't even mean anything. Nobody watched the clip until Blacklist made its drama out of it. You don't need to ask for respect or recognition because everyone respects and admires you very much. Everyone in the MLBB world really respects you. Everyone knows your extraordinary achievements. So, don't make people lose respect for you by creating unnecessary drama.
You didn't understand what they referring to because you did not watch their podcast and the issue is not only about the trailer. Lol. If you did not comprehend the whole context you better shut up. As you said people respect but how come Moontoon did not give respect to these two who contribute so much in the MLBB community?
@@pancitcanton6350 i mean mabait ang ang myanmar sa philippines kase malaking respeto tlaga sa atin meron naman na ilan ilan nag transtalk pero di lahat okie po
SEA Games Gold Medalist 31st SEA Games Gold Medalist 3x MPL Champion M3 World Champion M3 Champion MPL PH Season 7 Champion MPL PH Season 8 Champion MPL PH Season 10 Champion MPL PH Season 11 Grand Finalist IESF Grand Finalist MPL Season 4 Grand Finalist MPL Season 5 Grand Finalist MSC 2021 Grand Finalist MSC 2023 Grand Finalist Strongest gay duo and the most achievements that no one can beat 💪
WHY ACE BELONG TO LEGENDS BUT NO INTERNATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT LIKE INDOGS ONIC ID FEEL LIKE A MWORLD BUT MSC CHAMPION? EEW DISGUSTING MSC CHAMPION PROMOTE TO MWORLD IN THE VIDEO WHAT A FAVORITISM IN MLBBB😊
di naman sila umiiyak alam na nila na di sila makakasama pero nagulat lang sila na nagpro-promote si ace ng gambling pero nakalusot parin "FAIRNESS" lang gusto nila that's all :)
aceထိန်းဆုံးရောက်မှာအက်လိုဖျက်ဆီးတာတော့ရွံဖိုကောင်းတယ်အခြေက်မတွေရfuckဖိလစ်ပိုင်gayတွေရွံဖိုကောင်းတယ်
Kaya pala napalipat sila Veewise sa League of legends HAHAHA..
Out of all this drama, I am still wondering why Hoon is even on that list 😂
i love hoon and i want him to succeed in pro scene but he has no business in this 10 greatest players XD
@@Bestdaddy_bandit Exactly, he only won 1 NACT. The rest were just certificate of participation. Wonder how they came up with this list.
Shark and Chicken more deserving
Literally bro. Lmao. How is he even there moneyton?
Agreed why hoon of all😂
The Estes Skin cost Moonton a lot of money because its not "Marketable".💸
Idk bro. How should it be marketable if they made it as "limited edition"?
It's now even more proven that moonton is bias to indo and other regions except ph. Made a huge update on assassins just before msc for kairi. 😂
They are not dragging Ace. Ace put himself in that shithole 1xbet for more than 2 years now. Veewise started Rivalry for a little more than a month. If you call that fair, only God knows how your itsy bitsy mind is working. If you only know how much of an impact this duo has in PH and how much of a legend they are especially their M3 run. You will definitely feel wronged like the whole PH. Even non-Blacklist fans respect this duo and their contributions.
Give credit where credit is due Moontoon. Ako nasaktan for this two
But 1xbet is related to moonton
in that case moonton's just being a hypocrite@@MNLQC
Then I think you have already known that AI esports got banned from MSC 2020 because of the players promoted 1xbet.
rules is rules even though moonton have a connection in it.
I think Blacklist is being true to it's name.
Di ako fan ng veewise pero From the word greatest dapat sa achievement binabase. Buti Sana kung most popular player Sana hinanap ni moontoon dun pwede botohan.. apaka bias kc😂😂😂
Myanmar only include two players why could u do that ?
Moonton because of this i quit ml for 1 year and 6 months and tinadtad ko ng bad review and 1 star app nyo sunod sunod na bad review sa iba 😂😂😂😂
😂 because 1xbet pays moonton and rivalry is a competition for 1xbet. Simple as that. Moneyton doesn't give a fck about gambling sites, if its paying good money then all is good.
kung ganun bat' may rules si moonton na bawal mag promote na betting site diba word palang ng "betting site" is 1xbet na edi sana ilagay ni moonton na bawal mag promote ng betting except the 1xbet lol wahahahha
No moontoon ban all betting gambling company a Cambodian player get banned for promoting gambling didn't zapnu and doggie got kick out of the mpl ph because of gambling?
It's either moonton's double standard or they really hate blacklist especially veewise
@@GneissAlucard exactly.
blacklist getting "blacklist" 😂
Luh greatest mlbb player Kasi Hindi best mlbb healer...
This could be the start of moonton and ML's demise. Ngl, its a good game and the community had gone huge but what they did isn't fair.
Agree. Look how many stops playing ML.
Yeah. Blacklist has the biggest fan base in Ph. Moonton is basically digging their own grave.
@@karlwinston0908 its not actually bout having the biggest fan base but giving credit where the credit is due
MLBB greatest 10 players is for promotion not a legit greatest players..MLBB does not want to be kicked off in mobile world. Don't cry ace, make yourself champion first.. to the regions that does not have any title, you do not deserve the greatest players title.. dont cry.. this is for promotion by moonton.. Someday moonton will fall down like COC.. you're not forever moonton.. always remember that.. uninstall button is coming.🎉
When they added that criteria midway of nomination moontoon was just looking for a reason to exclude them. I don't even think it's about Rivalry anymore. Something happened midway and the only thing I can think of is the "ph carried indo" issue.
Veewise is still on the thumbnail of the voting links so that means they're supposed to be part of the nominees. Power tripping talaga to and overkill yung ginagawa ni Moontoon, the fact na overlook nila yung kay Ace means it was an immediate decision, they have no time to do a research or background check sa ibang nominees.
VEEWISE IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS CONFIRMED
I respect wise and vee since their dream high & onic days, ilang season at competition outside s PH bago nila m de-throne ang strategy nila, tingin ko p nga sinadya rn n moonton i nerf talaga mga hero neto n V33 "popol tank, kaja support lalo n ung distance ng 2nd skill at rang ng ulti, mathilda nerf, rafaela ability to soak heavy damage, etc." para lang m tulungan ibang players outside ph n m decode sila.
Only 2 myanmar players had chnce in the top 10 greatest. Ph has 7 players in the top 10 greatest
But our legend reaches no.1 🎉🎉 above of the most ph-psycho players 😂😂😂😂😂 We love our legends🎉🎉We are myanmar ❤ We bend ourselves together❤❤🎉
@@helenie292 funny how you only win in online votings but not international tournaments. 😂
1. Call me homophobic...pero ayoko din sa kulturang ganyan... PERO...."Give credit where credit is due"... Mapabading man yan o hinde... That duo is a LEGEND.
2. Clarity. Kung ginawa din yan sa paborito nyong brusko na player, baka yung iba dito humingi din ng clarfication sa Moonton.
anlala ehhh..grabe na si moneytoon ehhh🤦🤦🤣🤣
Korek
wala naman publema kung bading yung dalawa eh kahit hindi veewise ang ma nominate si veenus well deserved. Lagi silang talo dati sa sunsparks nung onic palang pero makikita mo nung naging aura na yung sunsparks dun na biglang lumaka shotcall ni veenus.
WHAT HAPPENED IF NO LESBIAN AND GAY IN OUR WORLD WE ALL MORE OVER POPULATIONS? KAYA SA MGA GALIT SA IBANG GENDER BAGO NA KAYO GA SARADO UTAK NINYO KAYA LAKAS NINYO MAPANGHUSGA
me everytime i get noob teammates:"why does moonton always look at us like an enemy?" 4:10
They said that they want fairness but they talked about ACE alot 🤣 What a joke
Blud 💀.Of course they are going to talk about the guy, the reason why they are excluded in GOAT according to Moonton is bcz they are promoting gambling, on the otherhand this guy who is promoting gambling isn't just part of the GOAT conversation which is contradicting to why they excluded this both legend. It isnt just that they are the most accomplished player in this scene and this Ace guy is just a grand finalist yet he's No. 1 like wtf 💀.
Blud is Indonesian 💀. now it all make sense 💀
Probably didn't even make an effort to comprehend what they were trying to say.
Crazy reading comprehension noodles 😅
tang inang moonton yaan hindi naman yaan sila mg ppromote kung sakto yung mga sinasahod nyan
Now they can be happy.They said they wanted fairness and end up dragging down other person.Don't even argue,that namely action was what normally called ''dragging down with us''.
Idiot spotted
You better ask moontoon about that.Why moontoon doesn't check about ace promoting gambling 1xbet within 2 years.
@@RodelOclarit-b5y Why should I? I means,you can ask yourself.
Mukhang di nlang si MARK tahimik lang ah
IBALIK SA 1STAR ANG ML SA PINAS. PLEASE SUPPORT BLACKLIST❤
Ina mo Wala Ganon Ngayon hahahahahahahaha asa ka pa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Iyak
Ulul kayo na lng ng kulto nyo
Moontoon hates gambling? What's your take about skin event draws? Is that gambling toi?😤
Blacklist wrong
Toxiclist Right
I don't need to ask. Looking back at ACE's performance during M1 and M2, what were the 2 dry ones doing at that time?
Boploks ka hahaha
@@jayslice9846then why did u ask
WELL NEXT LEVEL HUMANITARIAN RIGHTS!
Just want to put this here. In the criteria, it says 'ilegal activities'. Yes, gambling is NEVER GOOD... However it MAY NOT be ilegal in some regions or culture (work, country, etc.). So I guess ang kulang dito is proper explanation.
Hindi ko dinedefend Veewise, si Ace, o kung sino man pero malabo o vague ang definition so I seriously think this is not about gambling (not unless verbatim sabihin ni montoon).
So it is either: paniniko ni Moonton kay Tier One (BLK mother company) kasi sinusuportahan din nila ibang games, or bias sa lgbtqia+ (na kung ganon pala, sana di na nila pinalaro ang veewise, si rosa, etc.) and pumayag lang sila na may miyembro ng lgbtqia+ na maglaro para masabing 'inclusive' sila.
Medyo tagilid kung based sa pagiging gay Yan ni Vee. Kasi buong BLCK (M3) parang tinatarget eh.
It's most definitely about Blacklist not being a Mobile Legends only org. They have other moba games too like Dota, which we know Moonton doesn't like.
Basically, may mark na sa likod ang BLCK org dahil may iba silang Moba team at moba games na nilalaro. Ang nangyayari nalang ay kung Sino man sa mga players ang nakagawa or medyo palapit na sa paggawa ng mga "illegal actions" ay yun agad ang tinatarget. For example, naooverlook si Oheb pero wala siya sa nominations and ang main reason ay yung Middle finger siya which is really VERY TAME when you consider the possible illegal acts those players who'll be excluded could've done.
Pero si Moonton, ginamit yung reason na iyon para maalis si Oheb sa nominations. Sa VeeWise Naman, rivalry nalang irarason nila. Ngayon, wala sila masabi kay Hadji at Edward kanya di nila ma exclude.
Sakit na talaga ni Moonton Yan. Ayaw nila na may kahati sila sa Isang org or players.
Diba nawala rin si Shinboo sa shout casting because of almost the same reason. Gusto ng ML na sa kanya lang nagfofocus lahat.
Finally some is talking reasonable. After all that is the decision of MPL PH. It have nothing to do with ACE or Myanmar region or higher board of Moonton.
And you are right about the "illegal activity". Rivalry in one problem. Aside from the gambling sponsor, Philippines is a Catholic county. And the constitution is against same sex union. This is one reason MPL PH can't say publicly because such statement can be political incorrect in some county. But secretly they don't want that.
In summary, MPL PH doesn't want to promote Gambling and Homosexuality. Which is why Veewise is getting attack, not by other, by MPL PH.
Most competitive games prohibit betting/gambling on their Policies. That's what makes it "illegal". Although I haven't really read mlbb policies so I'm not sure
Ang issue lang dito is consistency ng pag implement ng policy ng moontoon. Dapat hindi selective gaya sa bawal kina veewise mag promote ng gambling app pero hindui kay Ace.
If illegal gambling ang tagging nila sa pino promote ng VW, bakit hindi sya pina shutdown ng Moontoon?
The factors for determining the greatest player specially in e-sports often include individual skill, strategic understanding, achievements in tournaments, adaptability, teamwork, and contributions to the game's development or community and overall influence. Consistent success in high-stakes competitions and the ability to perform well in various roles and situations are also crucial considerations. So i wonder why montoon having grudge with Blacklist or to veewise even though we all know and the world knows that they deserve a spot for this? Just for the Estes skin? Petty excuse and reasons for me... Just a sad to see veewise of (blacklist) are not there and i am also sad for the side of ACE of Myanmar you know he just got a spot and montoon put him there its not him that nominate himself you know, snappy salute for him, for turning down that spot. But for me still ACE have long way to go before we tell that he is GOAT. Just my piece.
KEY word "MONEYTOON"...
Moonton go mad cause of his rule making ml player upset
Reklamador kasi kayong dalawa,,mga bida2x..di kayo kawalan kay moonton.
INAMO WISE SABAT NG SABAT ANTAYIN MO TURN MO SA INTERVIEW
with all these issues, that greatest player nominations and winners will be a joke now due to the inconsistencies and irregularities with regards to their rules/guidelines 😢.
UNFAIR AND BIAS. UNPROFESSIONAL
Our ace :(
What a shame
Don't worry guys
ACE out from list right now because of you guys cursed and blame
No one blames ace stupid little brain. It's all about Moonton, they're the one to blame. Subtitles are they yet still your brain doesn't work
never heard of ace
Who said they cursed and blamed Ace? They’re not speaking in English, maybe that’s the reason why you did not understand them.
I will translate it for you: They were just asking why Ace was included in the list, why is he included if the rules is very clear that betting sites are not allowed. They are not even blaming MOONTON , they were just asking, because they feel that they were betrayed by MOONTON. Not ACE my gosh! Get your facts straight!
Asking okay? For the sake of FAIRNESS! They were just asking for answers from MOONTON not Ace.
oh well thats good for the sake of fairness
San makikita to full episode??
Sa totoo lang hindi namn batayan ang voting para tawaging greatest player,yung achievement ng player ang totong greatest player kaya nga champion ka dahil malakas ka at tsaka teamwork din
Dapat paiyakin si mooton mag live stream sila ni veewise ng lol wild drift i promote nila yun
because ACE is your father
Moonton just tell us whose your favorite organization in MLBB. 😂 B’coz we know now BLCK is not one of it.
If i am moonton i wouldn't like the people who give my game 1 star while i am the reason they are famous for. I think veewise will receive more hate from moonton by them saying these on interview. Sometimes you just need to agree to disagree and shut up
Before people think I hate veewise, I love and support blacklist in M3 but them saying these will just make things worse
1xbet🤝Moontoon (baka planado ng dalawa to guys)
Edward over Veewise sa greatest player sa MLBB.
Jealousy on both? ACE earn his reputation.
@@YouGodlywhy would Veewise be jealous of ace??like did ace have any achievements??
Lets be honest, the reason why Veewise is getting snubbed by Moonton is they getting too powerful and the impact and influence from them in the pro scene. Add the M3 skin issue.
Kung ako lang e lalagay ko sa TOP1 HANGGANG 5 SI SANZ MAHAL NA MAHAL KA NMEN KUYA BAL
lets be honest,this greatest mlbb voting is a joke,maybe they're doing this to hype M5 but rn, im hoping the HoK would release sooner
Moonton still bitter about the estes skin😅
gay ဟိုမရောက်ဒီမရောက်တွေတော်တော်စိတ်ပြတ်ဖိုကောင်းတယ်
Wag nyo na pansinin si Moonton kasi Hall of Legend inductee 10,000php lang. hahaha!
😂 tapos ang higpit pa sa mga players na gusto kumita. Kala mo naman bubuhay paprimyo.
Ang kuripot ni moneyton anak ng pating hahah
True..liit ng prize pool tapos ang mamahal ng skin puro chance draw pa.uubusin pera mo bago makuha ung skin.
Moonton is obviously biased. So unprofessional!
Those two always play as duo, we never seen they play separately. Even in onic ph, they both have to to blacklist when they swapped with kairi
i also have the same thought about them not being included to the nominees because they are always playing together, including the time time onic ph and blck swapped kairi with veewise.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS ACE IS HE SKILLED?
He was a professional player from Myanmar competed with team BG in M2 world championship and got 2nd runner up. Yes he was skillfull jungler back then.
He was, and he already retired a long time ago. Just after the M2, the crisis from Myanmar military coup taking control over whole country makes pro players such as ACE lose their salary from being a mlbb pro player. (That time, mlbb was a chinese game so it become one of the games that people boycotted) which make ACE lose his place. This is when he quit being a professional player and become a streamer by promoting 1xbet in his stream because of money. It was 2 years ago until now.
Back then he was second to Karltzy in M2 as the best jungler at that time. Funnel strat on its heydays.
Moontoon is so dumb for doing this to the duo and he didn’t even think about things before he react. He is sooooooo cheap!!!!
Only Onic also has been seen in the trailer as MSC champs. Why did they not include execration and RSG PH as well?😊
true and that's a m series trailer idk why their msc champ got in there while blacklist m3 champ is not lol moonton is very bias to indo
Because they want to cater to indog audiences
Pignoys gave no views
@@demarcuscousinthethird_ inDOGnesia is always loser
Maybe because they are the latest winner and also and participating in M5, plus Indo fan base. More of Marketing strategy. But I think they deserve their spot on the trailer.
1 star n yang hayup n moontoon na yan
Congrat Gay Couple & Ph Community 🎉
Crazy reading comprehension noodles 😅
😂😂😂 nandamay pa
shhh bobo
Power tripping si moontoon. Madami kasi followers ni Veewise kaya napapagtangol pa pero kung sakaling mangyari yung ganyan sa player na di mataas followers kawawa talaga.
#deleteML
If they give unfair treatment! Always consult youtube! TH-cam can disband mlbb
Oh diba lugi parin si moontoon pinagkakitaan pa ang issue 😂
We deserve an explanation from moontoon.
Not just veewise but also ace, alberttt, r7 too
Moonton is losing face. They have dug themselves into a deep hole. For such a professional org, they've shown themselves to be biased and unprofessional. Tsk.Tsk.Tsk.
I just deleted this trash ml game and will never play it again in support for veewise! Moondog has always been bias to indonesia! And i’m getting tired of it! I don’t support bias and unprofessional company🤡!!
K.Drama ng MR.veeeise
The unstoppable...... drama ... Sheeeeeshhhhhh. 🤦🏻♂️
1xbet promoted by Ace is also not Legal in Myanmar 😂😂😂... Moonton come out... Solve this...
Ang lala no moneytoon. Ang liit na nga pa primyo 😂
Kind of werid behavior from veewise tbh. Why drag Ace who is retired from pro play, also from different country and he didn't even said a single about this situation. They basically said "If i drown, you should drown with me too". Btw i used to like these guys. But recent behavior of these two showed the true faces. Like when they dissed the the whole indo pro scene for no reason. So unlikable guys rn.
They aren't dragging anyone down, mate. Any critical minded person will find it weird and contradictive on why "Person A" is not allowed because of something, while "Person B", doing something exactly the same is allowed. Its contradictory and hypocritical.
Lastly, these 2 had the biggest impact on MLBB as a whole spanning 2021-2023, and a whole meta was dedicated to them. The whole situation is strange as it is and it isn't wrong nor bad to be critical about it.
Huh??? What’s weird questioning moontoon? ACE is part of “Greatest player nominee” that’s why they’re questioning the rules posted by moontoon. You should check your comment dude. Every player should be equally judge. Not selective judge. Duh? Like v33wise cares if u support them or not.
I mean Ace is being quiet and doesn't deserved to be "dragged down" for sure. However, what about the Duo who grinded tf out of local and international competitions and topping these tournaments consistently for the past 3 years? Why did they get nothing, unlike Ace who hasn't achieved anything internationally besides M-series finalist?
Ace is not being dragged dude. If you watched the entire veewise podcast, they explicitly said that they were not doing this because they wanted to be part of the nominees or that they wanted to disqualify Ace as a nominee. They just want moonton to give them a clear explanation why they nominated Ace when in fact he is also promoting gambling. This is the problem if you only watch clips from the internet. Clips tend to misinterpret the purpose of the entire video of them commenting on the issue.
@@YuiraKunit's moonton's fault because of their inconsistency to their rules I know it's not Ace fault. if money is what they want they should've told VeeWise they don't like Rivalry because they don't give them a share lol.
No wonder... That moneyton always makes a problem... There is nothing wrong with V33Wise... They should definitely be on the list... Greatest Players mean what? Just decide on how they play... Secondly, that moneyton was cheating skins of Harley or Guinevere skins exactly like League of Legends Skins... Behave like they are so ethical and made lots of rules towards contestent... Give 1* to that App... That is what they deserve... Bias even between players... We want to vote for V33Wise where are they Moonton? Don't hide and come out to solve it... Where are Moonton representitive... They robbed money from players by selling expensive skins and make fans of V33Wise sad... Come out Moonton...
hoon?hahahahahaha...wtf moonton.hahahahahah moonton a clown.
Its ok to ask for FAIRNESS but its not ok to NAMEDROP and implicate somebody
it's NOT name dropping, it's citing a conctete proof that Moonton is NOT consistent in applying and practicing it's own rules. Anong gusto mo mag ala Pinoy showbiz sila na mahilig sa blind item?
Ano nman kung nag name drop? mali ba sila don? yung ginawa sa knila ni moonton bat di nila ginawa kay ace common sense wag bobo
di na sa dahil sa rivalry yan. about sa blacklist na may team sa wildrift.
I don't really think it's about betting... Since Ace is also included in greatest players.. I think it's because they are gay😑😑... Moontoon does not want to include blacklist n them because of this reason...
Dahil yan sa blacklist skin noon. Nagtanim ng sama ng loob si moonton
mas ganda jan, malabas si moonton ng statement about sa mga issue yan diba para alamin natin bakit nagkakaganyan mga pangyayare tungkol sa rules na bawal daw mag promote ng betting site pero nakalusot ang 1xbet, M5 trailer bat walang highlight ng blacklist doon sa M3, lalo na si moonton galit sila kay veewise?, maraming pang issue diba yan ang dapat masagot ni moonton yan hahayss...
@@jay-arbonane6840yung 1xbet binabayaran ang moongtoong par kaya wala silang problema, habang yung Rivalry kompetinsya nila yun. Di rin kasama BLCK sa m5 trailer kasi associated sila sa Rivalry. Pera pera lng talaga yan🤣
Ang babaw pala ni Moonton kung ganon 😅
Such shameless gays targeted ACE.Especially targeting players from Myanmar is really bad.They didint know how bad the situation is in Myanmar now?They have no choice but to do it to keep living as a streamer or a player.They need to think again about that and should apologise to ACE.
Have you watched the video? wdym lol
@@wushwush45What the fuck are u even talking,literally exposing him for them not being in the list,are u blink?
Huh? They're calling out Moontoon, not Ace. Maybe you need to watch again.
@@irishblasco9294 I wont even comment if I didn’t watch the video.They act like they don’t want the player to involve,so why they exposing him to the world without knowing the situation of Myanmar players and said they want fairness?You are the one who need to watch again and think again.
@@Mxan_Mxanno you're the one to think again and re-analyze the video. They just want fairness.
golobal player Toxic ?
better channel than djy fr 😂
They dragg ace in this drama, they can contest or petition their names on the list of nomineess instead of dropping names, imagine ace shame facing this drama, damn this idiot couple making this big deal just to be relevant in the community. They make this so messy when infact they dont need this they are all well known players already. What will they even get on this 😢 this is voting anyway theres no good basis in choosing this bullshit top 10 legends
What do you expect to moneytoon? The copy cat of leauge of legends and having overpriced skins, poor matchmaking.
y'all are offended just by a clip that everyone doesn't even care about. It's not just you, M1 winner, Evos Legend is also not in it. So please don't make drama out of everything. The clip doesn't even mean anything. Nobody watched the clip until Blacklist made its drama out of it. You don't need to ask for respect or recognition because everyone respects and admires you very much. Everyone in the MLBB world really respects you. Everyone knows your extraordinary achievements. So, don't make people lose respect for you by creating unnecessary drama.
You didn't understand what they referring to because you did not watch their podcast and the issue is not only about the trailer. Lol. If you did not comprehend the whole context you better shut up.
As you said people respect but how come Moontoon did not give respect to these two who contribute so much in the MLBB community?
Maganda yan. Pag awayin niyo fans ng Myanmar at Agents hahahaha mas malakas yan sa trastokan kesa sa Indo.😂
mabait ang myanmar
Hindi naman si Ace ang problema. Si moneytoon naman. 😂
@@Yato-k3cTama! Nadamay lang si Ace and parang may connection din ata si Rubydd sa gambling site? D ko sure.
@@jay-arbonane6840anong mabait Hahaha, kung makita mo lang mga trastok nila hahahaha
@@pancitcanton6350 i mean mabait ang ang myanmar sa philippines kase malaking respeto tlaga sa atin meron naman na ilan ilan nag transtalk pero di lahat okie po
Moontoon is dumb😂😂😂
i believe in bad karma,
FILIPINO SUPPORT LGBT💯💕💞🌈🌈🌈
1 star rating ko n s moonton
Hindi daw gusto mangdamay ng tao pero yung Ginawa na yan ano tawag jan? ingit pikit
Gumagamit Kaba Ng utak?
I believe that there is someone Moontoon staff in 1xbet😂 and maybe it's Ace we're talking about LOL
Papaniwala kasi kau sa mga intsik..yan tuloy tsk tsk tsk nalang kau
Without blacklist babagsak ang MPL PH. Reality speaking.
so much drama with this gay duo smh
The gay duo with the most achievements of all that no one can beat
@@Sericeous023 only have one international title lol
You must be joking, they have lots of international title and the team cant beat that achievement 👎
@@Sericeous023 tell me what are those cuz I know you guys only counts msc and m series when it comes to indo teams
SEA Games Gold Medalist
31st SEA Games Gold Medalist
3x MPL Champion
M3 World Champion
M3 Champion
MPL PH Season 7 Champion
MPL PH Season 8 Champion
MPL PH Season 10 Champion
MPL PH Season 11 Grand Finalist
IESF Grand Finalist
MPL Season 4 Grand Finalist
MPL Season 5 Grand Finalist
MSC 2021 Grand Finalist
MSC 2023 Grand Finalist
Strongest gay duo and the most achievements that no one can beat 💪
Ace be like: yow wtf im just quiet here, why did gaycouple veewise rat me out.
Gambler calling out another gambler
no.. he didn't say anything.
po! U are wrong.. he is not that kind of person.
WHY ACE BELONG TO LEGENDS BUT NO INTERNATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT LIKE INDOGS ONIC ID FEEL LIKE A MWORLD BUT MSC CHAMPION? EEW DISGUSTING MSC CHAMPION PROMOTE TO MWORLD IN THE VIDEO WHAT A FAVORITISM IN MLBBB😊
@@asapralph5909 Lol, why blame others we all know its gay couple veewise at fault thats why they are not included
@@paisen5915 "gay" couple that beat Indogs men.. 😆😆😆😆
Iyak1n
Wala namang kasalanan si ACE, nangdamay pa
di naman sila umiiyak alam na nila na di sila makakasama pero nagulat lang sila na nagpro-promote si ace ng gambling pero nakalusot parin "FAIRNESS" lang gusto nila that's all :)