@GoYourOwnWay86 Totally agree with you I don't think he will either....I was just pointing out that he's 1 of Boxings good guys and I wished him well ....he puts it on the line as we saw in his last fight against Fabio
11:00 Simon jordan still doesn't wanna give credit to usyk and acknowledge usyk is a generational best heavyweight 🤣 he said the same thing to fury prior to the usyk fight and now he choses lennox lewis to degrade Usyks generational achievements. Just can't swallow the fact that UK's best boxers have been battered by a Ukrainian middleweight
He's not a generational great heavyweight. He's beaten AJ and Fury.... that's it. To be the best of this generation he has to beat Parker, Zhang, Kabayel and Bakole
Fury fans are simply just racists that clung to a great white hope. The problem is that Fury wasn’t ever that good, was massively overrated and just got knocked out by a middleweight. I’m white btw.
He'd rather make Usyk's success about his opponents not being good enough than Usyk just being a generational great, which he is. Maybe he should take the hint from how badly his prediction of Fury knocking Usyk out backfired to conclude that Usyk is simply an elite fighter.
It's not even about Usyk(who is the number 1 don't get me wrong) IMO it's about their agenda against AJ. The same reason they bigged up Wilder into something he never ever was, go look at their older Wilder narratives it was fanboy/cheerleader territory for AJ's rivals. Weren't they saying AJ should retire after AJ lost to Usyk? They don't like Usyk because they can no longer use him to undermine AJ. Some of it will be motivated by clicks and engagement but some of these pundits and guests are very personal about it when it comes to AJ(fanboy energy, every neutral boxing fan has dealt with these types). Listen to Simon Jordan tell everyone who doesn't have the same energy, they're an AJ cheerleader too, the lack of self-awareness is staggering.
You also said Fury would ragdoll Usyk Simon, shows how much you know. This guy refuses to give Usyk the respect, he says oh it must be because Fury didn't prepare properly or is past it, despite the fact he was in the best shape for years and had multiple training camps! He says maybe Fury and Joshua were beaten by Usyk because they were overrated, not because Usyk is the better fighter! And it is hilarious that he accuses jug ears of having his head up Joshua, when Simon Jordan you have had your head firmly lodged up Fury and Warren for years.
We all know SJ hasn't got a clue when it comes to boxing, he's simply a controversial figure who gets a lot of views because he's direct and makes statements confidently, making people believe that they are factual (when quite often they're not).
It’s weird Simon’s comments about fury Uysk . Fury let’s just say avoided the fight for a few years , finally puts pen to paper , fury gives what I think is his best performance in a while , got into the best shape we’ve seen him in years and Simon claims he didn’t take the fight seriously ? Why because of the showboating ? He always does that sometimes to his detriment it nearly cost him the first wilder fight . Give the Uysk some credit gave away massive height and reach advantages and kept coming forward and pressing the bigger man , took some heavy blows to head and body and stayed on his feet , not the case for fury who was very fortunate not to be stopped. He talks about Spencer being up Joshua’s backside , but he himself has been sniffing fury’s farts for years . I expected fury to win that fight I simply thought he was too big , he lost the right man won should have been a majority decision for Usyk at least had it 7-5 personally .
11:45 Thats rich telling Spence his heads up AJs backside when his own is firmly planted in the big dossers...at least Spence has the humility to admit that Usyk is his pick for the rematch.
There’s is no way Fury can be anymore conditioned for the next fight, he had about a ten month camp for this fight. No heavyweight on the planet can dance with Usyk
@@Leefoster10 Dubois got punched in the face a bazilllion times vs Hergovic, he will take about 5 of Joshuas punches before he's out cold or on his knee again
Hope aj gets it don't no tho he has not took one on the jaw yet to say his back ddd should come out and swing and withe the men fight women it's fucked the things got balls😅
I’ve watched that fight 3 times now and it was never a split decision.fury had 3 good middle rounds other than that usyk dominated and let’s be honest the ref should have stopped the fight look at fury’s hands down by his sounds in the 9th round defenceless.the ref done him a massive favour giving him a standing count
i absolutely hate the way these pundits disrespect AJ. If Dubois lasts 4 rounds against AJ, He would have done great. talking about Dubois power against AJ? Same Dubois who was stopped by Usyk and Joe Joyce who don't carry anywhere near as much power as AJ? same Dubois who was hurt early by Hergovic? ridiculous take.
Your wrong sadly Simon, Tyson fury was coming off the most embarrassing performance of his career in Francis ngannou, after that he killed himself in the gym to get better for usyk and he got beat, usyk took his soul that night and the same will happen again if it even makes it to the ring before some fake injury postponement/cancelation comes out of the fury camp
Honestly the comments about Fury not being conditioned are bizarre, as is the narrative that he should win if he goes after Usyk and bullies him etc. Fury had six months solid to train for the fight, that is the best condition we are going to see him at this stage. All we will see in December is the same Fury that we got in May only… older. And jeez, he tried to bully Usyk in the first fight and looked great doing it. But he could only do it for three rounds before he slowed down. If he could have maintained it, he would have. He couldn’t and he didn’t
Let's keep it simple. AJ will get hit by DDD, then knock him out. Then what? Its not like AJ didn't get hit by these other HWs, his defense and conditioning has just gotten better!
The whole talk about Dubois hitting harder is hilarious to me. There is a reason they can't compare anything else. :D Let me ask all of you a question. Does it matter who punches harder if both punch hard enough to lay the other guy out? Probably not... What about speed? Who is faster? What about skill? What about defense? Dubois don't come off well on anything else other than power...
@@criiiiiiiiiiiiii....if you think Dubois has a better chin let me ask... Did Dubois take more shots and harder punches from Usyk in 8 rounds compared to AJ's 24 rounds with Usyk? Has AJ ever been stopped from a jab once let alone twice? Quote easy to make baseless claims but we have examples you can use to support your comment.
@@criiiiiiiiiiiiii....unless they have faced the same opponents it’s impossible to say who has the better chin. But you can say that Usyk didn’t stop Joshua with a jab like he did DDD.
If Dubois just goes for it straight away, AJ will knock his head clean off his shoulders. Dubois is stiff with no defence and AJ is an exceptional counter-puncher.
@@GoYourOwnWay86Joshua can be guilty of a classic British style, but his movement is better than DDD by a country mile. You cannot find me a fight, in which anyone (Usyk included) could land as often and as cleanly on AJ as an opponent could on DDD.
As a boxing fan for 35yrs i feel insulted every time Simon Jordan talks about boxing, he's overly opinionated for a guy who lacks the in-depth knowledge a person in his position on this show should have.
People have their beer goggles on with Lennox a bit. Great fighter but not unbeatable. McCall, Rahman, come from behind victory against Bruno, second fight with an aged, past it Holyfield, close shave with Mercer. Great fighter but people forget his flaws.
11:23 Eureka!! By George I think he's got it! No , Furys not as good as you made him out to be , the world and his wife were telling you before he got humiliated by the Middleweight!!
Was it though? Fury won 4-5-6 clearly, Usyk won 1-2-3-8-9-10-11 clearly. 7 and 12 were swing rounds, give them both to Fury and he still loses 115-112. Aside from those middle three rounds Fury was getting hunted all night
Finally someone talking sense fury wins the rematch one round changed the first fight and it’s that simple FairPlay to usyk he won but it won’t happen again
@@samwarrilow2881 Mohammad Ali was hunted his whole career however it did not mean he was getting beaten. We all see things differently. I think Fury won the early rounds. I look forward to the rematch. Until then let’s continue to create our own legacy, large or small.
@@metacoaching2655 Won the early rounds - surely not 1 or 2? He didn’t do anything? And ridiculous statement about Ali, you can fight on the back foot and still be the hunter
You keep making excuses for Fury. Against Ngannou, you said that he didnt train, though he said he trained very well. Now you saying he has no conditioning against Usyk after changing the date 3 times. He lost the fight, Usyk was better and will still beat him again.
@@EdwinMaldonado-ie6qn I used to think that but when you now look at the size of these heavyweights and their conditioning I think they would be an handful for anyone and most certainly Usyk would be, he is a all time great. In fact by today’s standard Usyk is considered small but he is 6:4 bigger than most heavyweights in history
@khhaos865 bigger isn't better. It isn't more skillful. These guys are very incomplete. I've been around the boxing world for over 40 years, and my boxing brain and eyes can easily see the vast decline in skill, will, dedication, and the ability to make adjustments.
@khhaos865 That's immensely disrespectful to the real great heavyweight from the 80s to the early 2000s who would destroy the simple boxing Usyk. He's good for this era of weak heavyweights.
I remember watching Spencer Oliver win his bronze medal at the Olympics in the 90's. And man.....he really was impressive.......a little pocket rocket with a great engine..... putting none stop pressure on his opponents. I was about 15 years old at the time and had just started boxing competitively as an amateur for a tiny little club in Birmingham. Hereally inspired me at the time.
Fury can’t beat Usyk in a fair fight. Usyk had to win 8-9 rounds and get a knockdown to get a split decision, so don’t be surprised if fury gets a decision in the rematch if Usyk only wins 7-8 rounds without a knockdown but everyone knows he’s the GOAT of this generation.
It’s painful to see that talksport still can’t just accept that Usyk is a superior fighter! Fury can have the fight of his life and still not beat Usyk!
Still saying they’re biological women even after he’s had it explained 10 times by a doctor 😂. People like Spence really need to stick to boxing not biology
What bout dubois ptsd umm 🤔 that the question lads cuz believe it or not he has been the only one to quit out of the two of them. Yes of course Anthony has been hit hard before and been knocked down, but so has Daniel Dubois 🙄🤔
Why do people big up Lennox Lewis so much he lost to two tomato cans with his glass chin. He certainly would not have ragdolled Usyk, he never ragdolled Holyfield and Usyk is bigger then him. And please remind me who has Dubios ever knocked out with one punch of any Quality
@BB49. are u for real 😂😂 lennox Lewis is one of the best of all time he would have destroyed all these current fighters so would riddick bowe ffs even bruno would have given this lot nightmares 😂😂 stick to tennis son boxing aint for u
@@lancslad1972Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall two great fighters😂😂😂. If either AJ or Fury or any top heavyweight had lost to them today and with a one punch knockout they would have been crucified and probably finished in Boxing. And no I cannot stand tennis that's for posh twats, working class and proud...I know in this world you cannot have an opinion in case a fan boy gets offended, well tough I will say what I like. Would heavyweights of the past been better perhaps so, though I or anyway have no idea and we will never know that's why it's an opinion and why we love sport. All I will say Heavyweights of today are so much bigger, stronger and heavier than ones of the past, even Usyk is 6:4 and we call him small. He would be bigger than most of the past, but again just an opinion. Now I better get back to my Tennis a big match on😂
Fury was at his best, are you AGAIN underating Usyk. I thought that was one of Furys best performances. No matter if Usyk wins again, there will be more excuses. Love you guys though . Love some feedback on what ive stated.?
These “pundits” can’t workout Usyk’s game plan against Fury but plenty of people who aren’t paid to can. Please stop talking about the “Fury dominance” in rounds 5/6/7. It’s all part of Usyk’s game plan. Take the first 3,4 rounds, then make the bigger man work. The amount of energy Fury had to expend just to win a round sapped all his energy by the 7th. Usyk’s style would cause any heavyweight in history problems. I think Lewis would win but I’d have him second to Ali in goat heavyweights.
I can’t believe how much hype fury gets, he got beat by an MMA fighter in his 1st fight. Fury won a stinkfest against Klitschko and won 3 times against Wilder (who’s shown how limited he is) He’s not actually looked good against anyone else…
Lol! Lenox will ragdoll Usyk? The same guy who said Fury will beat Usyk Lol! This Brits. Usyk is currently the best heavyweight of this century, period. Now whether he is the greatest boxer or not, that's up for debate, but for Cruiserweight or Heavyweight, he is the best. Watch back all the older fights of the other greats, no one fights and moves like him in the cruiserweight and heavy weight, get out of here Simon! Usyk is the best-ever cruiserweight and heavyweight.
Simon is really full of sh** He’s been saying Fury is the best and compared fury with Ali. Now that’s he has lost to Usyk, instead of giving Usyk his credit he’s here talking gibberish. What do you mean fury wasn’t ready for the fight? Total BS
Where does this narrative come from that Fury wasn’t in shape? He had 6 months plus to get in shape. Everyone claimed he never looked as in shape, as focused etc ever. That was the best version of Fury since Wlad. Usyk figured him out
It's a must win for furys legacy, but there's no shame if he loses again . But he can still fight aj and it still will be the biggest fight out there .May I add it does depend on how fury looses imo
Spencers biased is infuriating, fair enough saying Usyk beats Fury in rematch although I disagree with him. He has repeatedly stated he thinks Joshua wins the 3rd fight with Usyk...Its just nonsense, he has been fighting tin cans for years and been convincingly beaten twice by Usyk... Fool..
Dubois hits harder than Helenius, Franklin, Usyk and Ruiz, which are the most recent fighters who have landed on AJ. So it will be interesting to see how AJ will react to Dubois’s power.
Hearing Simon Jordan tell Spence that he has his head up AJs backside, when he has to take Fury’s piece out his mouth to say it is an absolute joke. SJ is the second biggest Fury Fanboy after the insufferable GAD
Dubois punches harder than Joshua? Give over! Look how Anthony Joshua dispatched Francis Nganou, a 300 pound man-mountain with the thickest neck muscles I’ve ever seen. Also the fact how Nganou is used to taking punishment in 4 ounce MMA gloves with kicks, elbows etc. No one has treated Nganou the way AJ has.
Simon Jordan speaks so much sense at times but also complete nonsense at other times; saying Tyson Fury “isnt an exhibition fighter” when discussing where he would go if he loses the second Usyk fight. Is that melt Simon completely unaware that Tyson fought an MMA fighter in Francis Ngannou, fought in the WWE and also had a third fight against Chisora; all of which were obviously exhibitions 🤦♂️🤦♂️do keep up simon!
Simon just loves criticising for the sake of critcising. Simon is so confident that Lennox Lewis would 'ragdoll' Oleksandr Usyk, but wasnt this the guy that went on about how Tyson Fury is this generations 'Premier' heavyweight??? 'I'm gunna cluelessly make a Bold prediction, and when my prediction doesn't materialise, I'm gunna slate the people that I predicted to win rather than admit I was wrong'. Guys just clueless... he's the kind of guy to think Holyfield, who lost to Bowe, who lost to Moorer, and who looked dreadful against Bobby czyz would have beaten Usyk. Another sports fan from football who watches a couple of boxing fights without ever being taught anything about boxing from a trainer or anyone whos actually boxed and comes to rapid conclusions. I don't like hating but I think Simon is a person now that doesn't argue to prove a point but argues so he can be right. He says there is alot of vacuous and unchallenged opinions out there - this is an exact example of one.
Absolutely nailed it. It’s his entire personality to be angry and never wrong about anything. Somehow a boxing expert these days and won’t have anyone question him. Along with the controversial and incredibly questionable stances he takes on more general matters but that’s another story. He must enjoy it regardless so all the best to him
Frazer seems exactly right there, Dubois' aggression in that thing with AJ seemed like nervous energy, kind of fighting fear with fire in the moment. Helps build the fight, good luck to both of them, but I feel with Davison's help, Dubois is going to get seriously lamped, he'll walk onto a big one quite early on.
Studio is proper ❤ shout out to simon & spence for creating this space! Love it from episode 1 to now growth is good to see! No bullshit proper conversations.
Talking about boxing at the Olympics......I feel that I have to say what I'm about to say...... I don't know how the former male boxers who are now boxing as females can take any pride in themselves from beating female boxers (females from birth i mean) ?? Especially given all the advantages they have over them from being born a male!! As a former amateur boxer myself...... im male btw.....and having actually sparred a couple of really good female boxers.....i know from experience the vast difference in physicality, strength and just all round level of ability between a man and a woman. They've made it legal for a man to beat up a woman.....and its just not fair in any way. Its MADNESS
Is Simon engaged to Frank very blatant with insults to Eddie but delicate with Warren but Simon’s PTSD comment is relevant and worth deep thought this fight is a potential banana skin i actually think AJ would beat Fury but may loose to DDD if he can’t get his respect in the ring
All good talk with Lewis would give any era a headache (definitely) n all this Fury could this n that.. but if Ali n other greats in their day had access to the stuff they know today with strength n conditioning, training, techniques, knowledge on allsorts of things that weren't thought of in their day someone like him would be unstoppable, were exceptionally great without it n half a century later if someone can compete with them they are also great but we are only comparing what we seen especially with current/recent fighters with older greats but how much greater would they be if trained on even ground (is how u really got to judge it) ✌️
Spencer made himself look a complete prat here, what the hell was he doing arguing with facts that the Doctor was stating? how is he getting these gigs if he's not creeping round AJ ,he is talking complete tosh.
Frazer is a really cool nice bloke and a great pundit 👍 my opinion on Fury usyk (totally neutral) it was the best Fury I've ever seen Vs usyk, it was the worst usyk I've seen and he still won. Fury couldn't hold his shape after 6 defensively which fundamentally he had never had a good defence! Usyk wasn't doing anything revolutionary he just learned after 6 rounds to take an extra step in with his left hand and Fury couldn't get out of the way. Fury is 36 and a huge man who hasn't lived a great lifestyle, his best days are behind him as are usyks, but usyk has a bit more left in the tank and the rematch will be the same result.
It's one thing saying they could complete in another HW era to ....would they be beating elite level heavyweights like Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis? Because let's be real....the best win on Joshua and Fury record is Wlad, but Wladimir wasn't an elite level fighter. He was very good don't get wrong, but he was a flawed champion and everyone knew that. As for Wilder who's he ever beat? Guys fought C class HW and when he has stepped up the ones he couldn't knock out beat him. I think Ray Mercer, Tim Witherspoon, David Tua, Ibeabuchi, Moorer would give some of the current HW a run for their money, let alone Tyson etc. Hell I'd give an aged Larry Holmes from the 90's to give them half a fight.
Mark my words the gypsy king will win the rematch im ultra confident the gypsy king is locked away training like a trojan gypsy pride will be all that matters which i believe will lead to a GK victory on 21st December
Dream on he was comfortably beaten will be same result or worse in rematch if he even turns up Fury's a clown and got his karma reason he avoided usyk for so long but pricing himself out cpl years ago 70-30 split
Respect to Frazer Clarke will make good pundit when hangs up the gloves
Agree totally....Frazer is one of Boxings most honest and down to earth Guys.....hopes he achieves his Dream but it's gonna be hard for him
Well he’s making a good pundit now 🤷♂️
Id prefer anyone over that awful Jonas!
@@garyhoufe7008if his dream is to be a world champion then I assure you that is not going to happen.
@GoYourOwnWay86 Totally agree with you I don't think he will either....I was just pointing out that he's 1 of Boxings good guys and I wished him well ....he puts it on the line as we saw in his last fight against Fabio
11:00 Simon jordan still doesn't wanna give credit to usyk and acknowledge usyk is a generational best heavyweight 🤣 he said the same thing to fury prior to the usyk fight and now he choses lennox lewis to degrade Usyks generational achievements. Just can't swallow the fact that UK's best boxers have been battered by a Ukrainian middleweight
He's not a generational great heavyweight.
He's beaten AJ and Fury.... that's it.
To be the best of this generation he has to beat Parker, Zhang, Kabayel and Bakole
@@t.f.1345 no one truly cares about Usyk tbh. Usyk biggest fans are AJ casuals and that’s the bottom of the society.
Fury fans are simply just racists that clung to a great white hope.
The problem is that Fury wasn’t ever that good, was massively overrated and just got knocked out by a middleweight.
I’m white btw.
He's beaten 2 hype jobs....pillow puncher fury and Robot Joshua,
Put him against lennox lewis.....and he gets utterly destroyed
He'd rather make Usyk's success about his opponents not being good enough than Usyk just being a generational great, which he is. Maybe he should take the hint from how badly his prediction of Fury knocking Usyk out backfired to conclude that Usyk is simply an elite fighter.
This is absolute madness we can’t even have a conversation about what a man and woman is anymore. This world is insane.
100 percent for some people.
Disgraceful how these lot still cling to Fury’s underwear and undermine Usyk.
It's not even about Usyk(who is the number 1 don't get me wrong) IMO it's about their agenda against AJ. The same reason they bigged up Wilder into something he never ever was, go look at their older Wilder narratives it was fanboy/cheerleader territory for AJ's rivals. Weren't they saying AJ should retire after AJ lost to Usyk? They don't like Usyk because they can no longer use him to undermine AJ. Some of it will be motivated by clicks and engagement but some of these pundits and guests are very personal about it when it comes to AJ(fanboy energy, every neutral boxing fan has dealt with these types). Listen to Simon Jordan tell everyone who doesn't have the same energy, they're an AJ cheerleader too, the lack of self-awareness is staggering.
You also said Fury would ragdoll Usyk Simon, shows how much you know. This guy refuses to give Usyk the respect, he says oh it must be because Fury didn't prepare properly or is past it, despite the fact he was in the best shape for years and had multiple training camps! He says maybe Fury and Joshua were beaten by Usyk because they were overrated, not because Usyk is the better fighter! And it is hilarious that he accuses jug ears of having his head up Joshua, when Simon Jordan you have had your head firmly lodged up Fury and Warren for years.
We all know SJ hasn't got a clue when it comes to boxing, he's simply a controversial figure who gets a lot of views because he's direct and makes statements confidently, making people believe that they are factual (when quite often they're not).
@@reece940he hasn’t have a clue about football either.
All of a sudden we’re not sure what version of Tyson fury is gonna show up??? Daaaamn man these excuses keep changing
It’s weird Simon’s comments about fury Uysk . Fury let’s just say avoided the fight for a few years , finally puts pen to paper , fury gives what I think is his best performance in a while , got into the best shape we’ve seen him in years and Simon claims he didn’t take the fight seriously ? Why because of the showboating ? He always does that sometimes to his detriment it nearly cost him the first wilder fight .
Give the Uysk some credit gave away massive height and reach advantages and kept coming forward and pressing the bigger man , took some heavy blows to head and body and stayed on his feet , not the case for fury who was very fortunate not to be stopped.
He talks about Spencer being up Joshua’s backside , but he himself has been sniffing fury’s farts for years . I expected fury to win that fight I simply thought he was too big , he lost the right man won should have been a majority decision for Usyk at least had it 7-5 personally .
Usyk is a proper stand up guy. Honour
Tyson fury has still only one elite win on his record. And those clowns still talks ablut him like he is a proven great.
11:45 Thats rich telling Spence his heads up AJs backside when his own is firmly planted in the big dossers...at least Spence has the humility to admit that Usyk is his pick for the rematch.
There’s is no way Fury can be anymore conditioned for the next fight, he had about a ten month camp for this fight. No heavyweight on the planet can dance with Usyk
Joshua is going to time Dubois rampaging in and flatten him. I dont see it going past 3.
inside five im going for big right hand from joshua will seal the deal
No chance , Aj finished fought nobody recently
@@Leefoster10 Dubois got punched in the face a bazilllion times vs Hergovic, he will take about 5 of Joshuas punches before he's out cold or on his knee again
Hope aj gets it don't no tho he has not took one on the jaw yet to say his back ddd should come out and swing and withe the men fight women it's fucked the things got balls😅
@arthurarsekey6634 but he might land one you don't no his slow yeah but I want to see someone land on aj then wot
Fraser Clarke talk very well he makes some great points great show
Student of the game, very good amateur career
I love Frazer Clarke. Top man and boxer.x
Spencer Oliver not the brightest
I’ve watched that fight 3 times now and it was never a split decision.fury had 3 good middle rounds other than that usyk dominated and let’s be honest the ref should have stopped the fight look at fury’s hands down by his sounds in the 9th round defenceless.the ref done him a massive favour giving him a standing count
I thought Fury won 4 rounds maximum. It wasn't that close a fight.
i absolutely hate the way these pundits disrespect AJ. If Dubois lasts 4 rounds against AJ, He would have done great. talking about Dubois power against AJ? Same Dubois who was stopped by Usyk and Joe Joyce who don't carry anywhere near as much power as AJ? same Dubois who was hurt early by Hergovic? ridiculous take.
Your wrong sadly Simon, Tyson fury was coming off the most embarrassing performance of his career in Francis ngannou, after that he killed himself in the gym to get better for usyk and he got beat, usyk took his soul that night and the same will happen again if it even makes it to the ring before some fake injury postponement/cancelation comes out of the fury camp
Facts
I'm a huge Fury fan but I agree with every word you just said ! Kindest regards, Richard U.K
@@seanhughes8880 He lost to Ngannou. And it wasn't close
Haha. Exactly what I think. Will Fury even make it to the ring….. who f…kn knows
You’re absolutely correct. I will revisit this comment in a few months. Fury is a bumb
SJ should not be hosting a boxing show.. the man is clueless
I disagree He is far more knowledgeable than the women hosts of fight nights . They are clueless and boring
@@ontherocks8712 fair point. I do feel 90% of those hosts are very ”mainstream” and just want to spread their agenda instead of analys the fights..
@@ontherocks8712very incel of you
I liked the old background better
Sometimes change is good…❤️
And sometimes it isn't
@@talkSPORTBoxing this one is bad. looking 20 years old!
@@trollerbater12321 and me the new studio is rubbish
100 percent, echo studio much better the smaller room
Honestly the comments about Fury not being conditioned are bizarre, as is the narrative that he should win if he goes after Usyk and bullies him etc.
Fury had six months solid to train for the fight, that is the best condition we are going to see him at this stage. All we will see in December is the same Fury that we got in May only… older.
And jeez, he tried to bully Usyk in the first fight and looked great doing it. But he could only do it for three rounds before he slowed down. If he could have maintained it, he would have. He couldn’t and he didn’t
Let's keep it simple. AJ will get hit by DDD, then knock him out. Then what? Its not like AJ didn't get hit by these other HWs, his defense and conditioning has just gotten better!
The whole talk about Dubois hitting harder is hilarious to me. There is a reason they can't compare anything else. :D Let me ask all of you a question. Does it matter who punches harder if both punch hard enough to lay the other guy out? Probably not... What about speed? Who is faster? What about skill? What about defense? Dubois don't come off well on anything else other than power...
More importantly, how many actual KOs does dubois have? Who has he put out cold, at any level of his career?
@e.e121 dubois has the better chin. And a better engine/gas tank. And the youth in his side so better punch resistance. You're overlooking a lot.
@@e.e121how many people has Beterbiev put out cold? That’s not a fair measure of power.
@@criiiiiiiiiiiiii....if you think Dubois has a better chin let me ask... Did Dubois take more shots and harder punches from Usyk in 8 rounds compared to AJ's 24 rounds with Usyk? Has AJ ever been stopped from a jab once let alone twice? Quote easy to make baseless claims but we have examples you can use to support your comment.
@@criiiiiiiiiiiiii....unless they have faced the same opponents it’s impossible to say who has the better chin.
But you can say that Usyk didn’t stop Joshua with a jab like he did DDD.
If Dubois just goes for it straight away, AJ will knock his head clean off his shoulders. Dubois is stiff with no defence and AJ is an exceptional counter-puncher.
Joshua is just as stiff 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@GoYourOwnWay86Joshua can be guilty of a classic British style, but his movement is better than DDD by a country mile. You cannot find me a fight, in which anyone (Usyk included) could land as often and as cleanly on AJ as an opponent could on DDD.
@@GoYourOwnWay86 Not as stiff as Dubois. AJ is a little stiff but he's more dynamic, smoother and more athletic.
It’ll be a very similar fight to Lewis vs Grant. Dubois will come in full of confidence, get tagged, then fall to pieces.
I can bet my life, he'll mention Eddie at least once.
Furys not an exhibition fighter? Lol hes done wrestling and fought an mma fighter…money talks.
As a boxing fan for 35yrs i feel insulted every time Simon Jordan talks about boxing, he's overly opinionated for a guy who lacks the in-depth knowledge a person in his position on this show should have.
That's not dandruff. That's a snowflake.
What exactly do you disagree with?
Trying to gatekeep boxing everyone is aloud opinions
Frazer is going to be a great pundit one day, really enjoyed listening to his analyst
People have their beer goggles on with Lennox a bit. Great fighter but not unbeatable. McCall, Rahman, come from behind victory against Bruno, second fight with an aged, past it Holyfield, close shave with Mercer. Great fighter but people forget his flaws.
11:23 Eureka!! By George I think he's got it! No , Furys not as good as you made him out to be , the world and his wife were telling you before he got humiliated by the Middleweight!!
That fight was closer than most people think. Usyk and the world will be recalibrated after the rematch.
Was it though? Fury won 4-5-6 clearly, Usyk won 1-2-3-8-9-10-11 clearly. 7 and 12 were swing rounds, give them both to Fury and he still loses 115-112.
Aside from those middle three rounds Fury was getting hunted all night
Finally someone talking sense fury wins the rematch one round changed the first fight and it’s that simple FairPlay to usyk he won but it won’t happen again
@@samwarrilow2881 Mohammad Ali was hunted his whole career however it did not mean he was getting beaten. We all see things differently. I think Fury won the early rounds. I look forward to the rematch. Until then let’s continue to create our own legacy, large or small.
Commenting so I can come back when fury inevitably loses and shown yourselves as casuals
@@metacoaching2655 Won the early rounds - surely not 1 or 2? He didn’t do anything? And ridiculous statement about Ali, you can fight on the back foot and still be the hunter
Welcome back fellas👍🏻🇬🇧
Great Usyk interview too
You keep making excuses for Fury. Against Ngannou, you said that he didnt train, though he said he trained very well. Now you saying he has no conditioning against Usyk after changing the date 3 times. He lost the fight, Usyk was better and will still beat him again.
I respectfully disagree about this era of heavyweights. They are mid tier at best.
Usyk still becomes undisputed regardless of era
@@EdwinMaldonado-ie6qn I used to think that but when you now look at the size of these heavyweights and their conditioning I think they would be an handful for anyone and most certainly Usyk would be, he is a all time great. In fact by today’s standard Usyk is considered small but he is 6:4 bigger than most heavyweights in history
@khhaos865 bigger isn't better. It isn't more skillful. These guys are very incomplete. I've been around the boxing world for over 40 years, and my boxing brain and eyes can easily see the vast decline in skill, will, dedication, and the ability to make adjustments.
@khhaos865 That's immensely disrespectful to the real great heavyweight from the 80s to the early 2000s who would destroy the simple boxing Usyk. He's good for this era of weak heavyweights.
@@EdwinMaldonado-ie6qn yeah bro cool👍🏽
Spencer ain't got a bobbins he can barely speak clearly but yet wants to argue with a doctor whose an expert in his field😂
Been saying for years Fury had been over rated' yeah good boxer but not a goat or hall of famer or a generational supreme....
What is this obsession with AJ having to knock out all his opponents? It’s mind blowing.
Spencer is terrible, says the first thing that comes to his head, then forgets
Totally agree
Show some respect.
Furys fight cv is paper thin. He has laboured against shite.
I remember watching Spencer Oliver win his bronze medal at the Olympics in the 90's. And man.....he really was impressive.......a little pocket rocket with a great engine..... putting none stop pressure on his opponents.
I was about 15 years old at the time and had just started boxing competitively as an amateur for a tiny little club in Birmingham.
Hereally inspired me at the time.
What everyone needs to understand is , it isn’t up to fury what he does , it’s up to usyk
That was the best version of furys we've seen in years, but some of these guys act like he didnt take it seriously.
Fury can’t beat Usyk in a fair fight. Usyk had to win 8-9 rounds and get a knockdown to get a split decision, so don’t be surprised if fury gets a decision in the rematch if Usyk only wins 7-8 rounds without a knockdown but everyone knows he’s the GOAT of this generation.
Usyk has been wrong before on predictions and he's still my fav heavy weight. But daniel sparks AJ inside 5 RDS
Usyk said himself , the rematch will be more difficult because they have both worked out certain parts of their opponent. Obvious really
Idk fury is talking like he doesn’t think he did anything wrong
Everyone talking about rounds 5-6 like fury figured Usyk out and Usyks trainer just admitted they took off 5,6,7, and he won 7 regardless.
I think Frazier would be a excellent pundit ,he speaks really well and talks sense
It’s painful to see that talksport still can’t just accept that Usyk is a superior fighter! Fury can have the fight of his life and still not beat Usyk!
Now we have dr spence
Still saying they’re biological women even after he’s had it explained 10 times by a doctor 😂. People like Spence really need to stick to boxing not biology
What bout dubois ptsd umm 🤔 that the question lads cuz believe it or not he has been the only one to quit out of the two of them. Yes of course Anthony has been hit hard before and been knocked down, but so has Daniel Dubois 🙄🤔
Ruiz made AJ quit
The Cuban who fought AJ at the London Olympics also got robbed, so let's be consistent.
Why do people big up Lennox Lewis so much he lost to two tomato cans with his glass chin. He certainly would not have ragdolled Usyk, he never ragdolled Holyfield and Usyk is bigger then him. And please remind me who has Dubios ever knocked out with one punch of any Quality
@BB49. are u for real 😂😂 lennox Lewis is one of the best of all time he would have destroyed all these current fighters so would riddick bowe ffs even bruno would have given this lot nightmares 😂😂 stick to tennis son boxing aint for u
@@lancslad1972Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall two great fighters😂😂😂. If either AJ or Fury or any top heavyweight had lost to them today and with a one punch knockout they would have been crucified and probably finished in Boxing. And no I cannot stand tennis that's for posh twats, working class and proud...I know in this world you cannot have an opinion in case a fan boy gets offended, well tough I will say what I like. Would heavyweights of the past been better perhaps so, though I or anyway have no idea and we will never know that's why it's an opinion and why we love sport. All I will say Heavyweights of today are so much bigger, stronger and heavier than ones of the past, even Usyk is 6:4 and we call him small. He would be bigger than most of the past, but again just an opinion. Now I better get back to my Tennis a big match on😂
😂😂😂😂😂
@@lancslad1972 Guys like him like to make lame comments. And being negative gives him more attention, and that's all he's looking for.
Usyk is 6" 3' .@@BB49.
Fury was at his best, are you AGAIN underating Usyk. I thought that was one of Furys best performances. No matter if Usyk wins again, there will be more excuses. Love you guys though . Love some feedback on what ive stated.?
Quality stage and production. Make this weekly with a guest and it will be quality
Brilliant studio
These “pundits” can’t workout Usyk’s game plan against Fury but plenty of people who aren’t paid to can.
Please stop talking about the “Fury dominance” in rounds 5/6/7. It’s all part of Usyk’s game plan. Take the first 3,4 rounds, then make the bigger man work. The amount of energy Fury had to expend just to win a round sapped all his energy by the 7th.
Usyk’s style would cause any heavyweight in history problems. I think Lewis would win but I’d have him second to Ali in goat heavyweights.
Usyk will beat Fury again. Usyk is too good. Usyk just has Fury's number!!!!
Usyk had a good 30 seconds out of 36 minutes, stop overreacting. Fury will win the rematch pal 👍🏻
@@Stevenbutterworth1992Get Fury’s nuts out your mouth man, he’s getting punched up again. Everyone knows it.
@Stevenbutterworth1992 at last someone speaks sense I totally agree im ultra confident fury wins the rematch
@@lancslad1972 now he knows he needs a KO, the levels will go up! F the boxing, make Usyk feel those uppercuts!!!
@@Stevenbutterworth1992 Nah, your actually delusional. Usyk won more rounds plus nearly knocked Fury out clean. Usyk wins the rematch easy, pal!
Not keen on the new background
Lennox Lewis would have struggled with Usyk as well, simple reality. No one in Lewis's generation fought anyone with the skill level of Usyk.
Of course not please see evander holyfield
I can’t believe how much hype fury gets, he got beat by an MMA fighter in his 1st fight. Fury won a stinkfest against Klitschko and won 3 times against Wilder (who’s shown how limited he is)
He’s not actually looked good against anyone else…
19:10 Wrong again Spence , we're seeing a better version of AJ now because now he's gone back to fighting sub standard opponents.
If Fury can’t beat Usyk in the rematch or Anthony Joshua next year, then we can’t say he is one of the greatest heavyweight boxers.
But he beat chisora 3 times 😂😂😂
Lol! Lenox will ragdoll Usyk? The same guy who said Fury will beat Usyk Lol! This Brits. Usyk is currently the best heavyweight of this century, period. Now whether he is the greatest boxer or not, that's up for debate, but for Cruiserweight or Heavyweight, he is the best. Watch back all the older fights of the other greats, no one fights and moves like him in the cruiserweight and heavy weight, get out of here Simon! Usyk is the best-ever cruiserweight and heavyweight.
New studio? Timestamps? OIOI SAVELOY - Loving the upgrade! But I feel like Simon needs a special Judge Like chair and a gravel 😂😂
Great show, big up big Fraser
Simon is really full of sh**
He’s been saying Fury is the best and compared fury with Ali. Now that’s he has lost to Usyk, instead of giving Usyk his credit he’s here talking gibberish. What do you mean fury wasn’t ready for the fight? Total BS
Where does this narrative come from that Fury wasn’t in shape? He had 6 months plus to get in shape. Everyone claimed he never looked as in shape, as focused etc ever. That was the best version of Fury since Wlad. Usyk figured him out
Great to see Simon back on the show,superb input from frazier Clarke missing Duke mckenzie though,all in all though a terrific podcast
I thought Fraser boxed like the champion and won that fight against Wardley. He comes across very well too.
It's a must win for furys legacy, but there's no shame if he loses again . But he can still fight aj and it still will be the biggest fight out there .May I add it does depend on how fury looses imo
Nothing on the Saudi card in America????
Sadly the pundits won't have heard of Crawford's opponent, or many on the undercard
@@GeorgeMaac all of talk sport knew about everyone on the card and everything taking place trust me
@@Ollie-o6c talkSPORT knew of course. Just certain pundits I mean 🧐
Spencer your hair is going darker as you age!!! How do you do it?
How impressive is Frazer Clarke? His honest opinions are great to hear.
Spencers biased is infuriating, fair enough saying Usyk beats Fury in rematch although I disagree with him. He has repeatedly stated he thinks Joshua wins the 3rd fight with Usyk...Its just nonsense, he has been fighting tin cans for years and been convincingly beaten twice by Usyk... Fool..
Great show
Dubois hits harder than Helenius, Franklin, Usyk and Ruiz, which are the most recent fighters who have landed on AJ. So it will be interesting to see how AJ will react to Dubois’s power.
If Usyk's jab dropped Dubios, Joshua's jab will send him to the hospital.
Like the new format with guests giving opinions & insight as well 👍
In my opinion i thought Frazer Clarke won that fight again just my opinion!
Hearing Simon Jordan tell Spence that he has his head up AJs backside, when he has to take Fury’s piece out his mouth to say it is an absolute joke. SJ is the second biggest Fury Fanboy after the insufferable GAD
SJ calling Ben Davison “Davidson” will never not do my head in 😅
Big up the new studio….. looks great
Dubois punches harder than Joshua? Give over!
Look how Anthony Joshua dispatched Francis Nganou, a 300 pound man-mountain with the thickest neck muscles I’ve ever seen. Also the fact how Nganou is used to taking punishment in 4 ounce MMA gloves with kicks, elbows etc. No one has treated Nganou the way AJ has.
5 months since the Wardley Clarke fight and still no date for a rematch ; what the hell are the promoters doing?
Simon Jordan speaks so much sense at times but also complete nonsense at other times; saying Tyson Fury “isnt an exhibition fighter” when discussing where he would go if he loses the second Usyk fight. Is that melt Simon completely unaware that Tyson fought an MMA fighter in Francis Ngannou, fought in the WWE and also had a third fight against Chisora; all of which were obviously exhibitions 🤦♂️🤦♂️do keep up simon!
Simon just loves criticising for the sake of critcising. Simon is so confident that Lennox Lewis would 'ragdoll' Oleksandr Usyk, but wasnt this the guy that went on about how Tyson Fury is this generations 'Premier' heavyweight???
'I'm gunna cluelessly make a Bold prediction, and when my prediction doesn't materialise, I'm gunna slate the people that I predicted to win rather than admit I was wrong'.
Guys just clueless... he's the kind of guy to think Holyfield, who lost to Bowe, who lost to Moorer, and who looked dreadful against Bobby czyz would have beaten Usyk. Another sports fan from football who watches a couple of boxing fights without ever being taught anything about boxing from a trainer or anyone whos actually boxed and comes to rapid conclusions.
I don't like hating but I think Simon is a person now that doesn't argue to prove a point but argues so he can be right. He says there is alot of vacuous and unchallenged opinions out there - this is an exact example of one.
Absolutely nailed it. It’s his entire personality to be angry and never wrong about anything. Somehow a boxing expert these days and won’t have anyone question him. Along with the controversial and incredibly questionable stances he takes on more general matters but that’s another story. He must enjoy it regardless so all the best to him
Frazer seems exactly right there, Dubois' aggression in that thing with AJ seemed like nervous energy, kind of fighting fear with fire in the moment. Helps build the fight, good luck to both of them, but I feel with Davison's help, Dubois is going to get seriously lamped, he'll walk onto a big one quite early on.
Was rooting for Wardley against Clarke but must say Frazer proved everyone wrong and he’s a class act also. Respect to him
Studio is proper ❤ shout out to simon & spence for creating this space! Love it from episode 1 to now growth is good to see! No bullshit proper conversations.
Talking about boxing at the Olympics......I feel that I have to say what I'm about to say...... I don't know how the former male boxers who are now boxing as females can take any pride in themselves from beating female boxers (females from birth i mean) ??
Especially given all the advantages they have over them from being born a male!!
As a former amateur boxer myself...... im male btw.....and having actually sparred a couple of really good female boxers.....i know from experience the vast difference in physicality, strength and just all round level of ability between a man and a woman.
They've made it legal for a man to beat up a woman.....and its just not fair in any way.
Its MADNESS
Is Simon engaged to Frank very blatant with insults to Eddie but delicate with Warren but Simon’s PTSD comment is relevant and worth deep thought this fight is a potential banana skin i actually think AJ would beat Fury but may loose to DDD if he can’t get his respect in the ring
Is BIG Frase saying, Dave Allen is the hardest punch he has ever received! 😳😳🤔🤔
Big Freeze is talking like we was listening to it on radio when he watched it live, we seen it too Fraze
So glad wardley v Clarke 2 is happening one of the best heavyweight fights iv ever seen
All good talk with Lewis would give any era a headache (definitely) n all this Fury could this n that.. but if Ali n other greats in their day had access to the stuff they know today with strength n conditioning, training, techniques, knowledge on allsorts of things that weren't thought of in their day someone like him would be unstoppable, were exceptionally great without it n half a century later if someone can compete with them they are also great but we are only comparing what we seen especially with current/recent fighters with older greats but how much greater would they be if trained on even ground (is how u really got to judge it) ✌️
Spencer made himself look a complete prat here, what the hell was he doing arguing with facts that the Doctor was stating? how is he getting these gigs if he's not creeping round AJ ,he is talking complete tosh.
Frazer is a really cool nice bloke and a great pundit 👍 my opinion on Fury usyk (totally neutral) it was the best Fury I've ever seen Vs usyk, it was the worst usyk I've seen and he still won. Fury couldn't hold his shape after 6 defensively which fundamentally he had never had a good defence! Usyk wasn't doing anything revolutionary he just learned after 6 rounds to take an extra step in with his left hand and Fury couldn't get out of the way. Fury is 36 and a huge man who hasn't lived a great lifestyle, his best days are behind him as are usyks, but usyk has a bit more left in the tank and the rematch will be the same result.
Racism and sexism in one episode.
It's one thing saying they could complete in another HW era to ....would they be beating elite level heavyweights like Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis? Because let's be real....the best win on Joshua and Fury record is Wlad, but Wladimir wasn't an elite level fighter. He was very good don't get wrong, but he was a flawed champion and everyone knew that. As for Wilder who's he ever beat? Guys fought C class HW and when he has stepped up the ones he couldn't knock out beat him. I think Ray Mercer, Tim Witherspoon, David Tua, Ibeabuchi, Moorer would give some of the current HW a run for their money, let alone Tyson etc. Hell I'd give an aged Larry Holmes from the 90's to give them half a fight.
Mark my words the gypsy king will win the rematch im ultra confident the gypsy king is locked away training like a trojan gypsy pride will be all that matters which i believe will lead to a GK victory on 21st December
@@lancslad1972 come on!!! Now he knows he needs a KO, Usyk is in trouble! Would love to see Fury land an early low blow to make Usyk cry! Let’s gooooo
I really hope you're right but suspect you're wrong
@@slaterbreaker keep the faith mate the gypsy king will be a man possessed
Dream on he was comfortably beaten will be same result or worse in rematch if he even turns up
Fury's a clown and got his karma reason he avoided usyk for so long but pricing himself out cpl years ago 70-30 split
Same result next time, probably easier.
Fury will get beat again then get back on tbe bag 👃 ❄