ALL were an improvement! The 30H had the best clarity overall. Clean sounds SHOULD have been considered as well, as not all speakers to both types of signals well! (UNLESS they're LORANTZ speakers of course! )
Mojotone makes amazing speakers. Love the greyhounds and the British vintage series. The Bv-25ms rival my amazing vintage celestions. The greyhounds sound incredible with just about every high gain amp I’ve recorded through them
@@Gainovermg yeah the greyhounds cover some of the ground that V30s do, but they actually work for cleans, and don’t have that spikey upper midrange. It’s like all the stuff I like in a V30 without the drawbacks. My bandmate has an invective and we couldn’t believe how great 2 greyhounds and 2 creamback M75s sound together with that amp.
This is why I love this channel. I know a LOT of (mostly useless) information about guitars, but up until about a year ago, the only thing I knew about amps was how to turn them on.
So awesome. I have a Marshall 4 x 12. It has the evh, bv 25m, swamp thing and stock celestial speaker in it (waiting on a Hesu demon) That one cab, coupled with a multitude of mics and I’m overwhelmed with tone choices. It’s a lot of fun. Johan and Glenn. Both are my “go to” for speaker stuff. 🤘🤘
Maybe it’s because i grew up playing thru em but I like my G12T-75s . I know it’s not the industry preferred driver but I know how it responds and I like it’s or I’m used to it’s flavor. My current drivers are in a Sunn 412 that toured as a bass cab for years before I got it.
The G12T-75 is a good speaker, the bad reputation comes mainly from people not knowing how to use them. Like every other Celestion speaker, its sound shifted in different eras, probably due to production choices. I love how it sounds combined with a good Greenback, they're from the same heritage so they mix well, however it adds depth in the low end and bite in the high end, while the Greenback dominates the midrange.
Just as a side note: speaker polarity only matters when using multiple speakers. If you switch the polarity on one speaker, it will be in opposite phase to the other and cancel it out. The same is true when using multiple amps and/or cabs: make sure the polarity is identical on all of them. When this is your only amp, the polarity on the speaker matters not.
this video annihilates any argument against the amount of sonic change one can expect from swapping speakers. good on you, Glen! this argument can now be laid to rest.
This is absolutely an A+ video. I don’t like the idea of luging around (or paying for) a cabinet in addition to a combo. Seeing exactly how to put a new speaker in, and hearing the difference between the two is GREAT.
As a cab builder who uses Mojotone speakers- I love them! My builds usually have BV-30Hs or Greyhounds in them. But some of my absolute favorite mixes came from the 30V and their Watchtower greenbacks.
Excellent advice when you said the Sheffield speaker sucked. I tried to like it back in the day and wanted to like it but quickly found out it was inferior to fane, celestion, and eminence models. THE SPEAKER IS THE FILTER. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AND PUT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN. You've single handedly made us guitar players everywhere {that have 30+ years of experience} happy. And hopefully some young-uns too. You deserve more business sir.!!
I started watching this video in my car as I was waiting for some heavy weather to pass so I could drive on, and the difference between the original speakers and the upgrades is clear even on a phone speaker. When watching the video again through some decent monitors, it is even more incredible. My fav is the BV30H, that speaker sounds fantastic!
I own that amp. the speaker alone is not enough of an upgrade. what worked for me and blew me away I changed the internal speaker cable with a monster cable and the amp came to life and the sound is orgasmic
I love the 30H sound! I like the top end clarity without slashing the ears. The M sounds kinda hollow, maybe? I've been looking for a speaker to swap the crappy one that my Marshall combo comes with, but I'm certain this one will gwt the job done.
One of my only regrets as a young lad was faced with a selection between Black Widow and Sheffield, I thought the font looked more refined so I thought the Sheffield would have a more refined sound. Maybe it sounds better after being in storage for a few decades. Tone crafting molds and spores perhaps.
9:50 I actually prefer the sheffield. But then again my favourite speaker is the T75, which everyone shits on nowadays despite it having been used on a billion classic metal records
Yeah I have two Marshall quads loaded with them from that era when I brought the cabs. One thing I really like about them is that each quadbox is rated in total at 300 watts with them inside! Would I ever run a 300 watt per channel power amp into them? Probably not, but it gives one confidence that you're not gonna pop it!
My 1971 Marshall cabinet with G 12 M’s is a freaking awesome speaker that brings home the mojo, I’ve tried others and kept coming back to it… Keep on rockin
I’ve had this combo for about 9 years, ended up chopping it up to remove the cab (basically giving me a 60w head) and no reasonable amount of money could make me part with it it’s amazing
Yes!! Hey Glen I really appreciate you pushing MoJo. My younger brother Andrew has been with them since they were in a shop behind the owners house. Aside of working with the signature artist, and content creators he is on the R&D for alot of their products including speakers. I remember testing the B30s in Andrews garage when they were still in the development stages. Andrew is a metal guitar player at heart, They got the sauce they thats for sure. Love the show, long time fan here.
Glen, after watching your first video on this amp I decided it was time to leave behind the solid state Marshall I've been playing since high school and get a big boy amp. On your advice I bought one of these for $400. The sound was disappointing at first, which I knew might be the case ahead of time knowing what you had said about the speaker and what I had read about the speaker on forums. The original speaker is not even a real Sheffield, as Sheffields are made in the USA, and this is made somewhere in China. After changing out what I assume were the original preamp tubes (V1 and V5 were toast) things definitely improved. And most importantly, I got a new speaker made at the factory in Eminence, KY, about an hour from my house. Now, it sounds like a real amp! Fronting it with a tube screamer clone really helped too. I found the original speaker to be muffled and ice picky. If you like a cheap knock off of a green back with scooped mids (on an amp known for its mids) really fizzy highs, and farty lows, the original speaker may be fine for you. As for me, my 6505+ proudly wears an "Eminence inside" badge! Lots of people have replaced the speakers in these with a V30, or with an Eminence Governor or Swamp Thang. I didn't do any of those, because I didn't want to sound like everybody else! But what I did put in there sounds good. You haven't mentioned this in either of your two videos on this amp, but I think it is important for people to know there is a bit of an issue with the FX loop. It is not transparent. Many people complain about it, but some people like it better. However, this can be fixed very cheaply if you are any good at soldering and know what parts of the amp to stay away from so you don't get shocked and die. As a side note, because a certain angry, long-haired Canadian would have told me to, I did an A/B test. I'm glad I did too, because at first I couldn't tell much difference between the speakers, but listening back to back shows they are quite different. Let me know if you want the files Glen, and I'll send them to you. Thanks! Loving the new amp!
Speakers are what matter! Those BVM's sound freaking awesome! I wish I would have learned how MUCH MORE IMPORTANT SPEAKERS really are! DAMN! I sold my Peavey combo because it never sounded that great- EDUCATION CAN BE EXPENSIVE.....great stuff man!!! I am subbed!
Great demonstration Glenn!! I personally installed a DV-77 couple years back into my combo from a V30, and it sounds amazing, a lot more focused. Love these combos, very versatile if you work with it.
That's my sound! I prefer using an amp that has more watts than the speaker. It is great to hear it in a quality mix. Your videos are a gem to the metal community! Keep up the good work!
For years I ran my guitar through my 1st gen script version 5150 head into a 15" Peavey Black Widow speaker cab. It always sounded great for what I was looking for. Pictures hanging on the wall didn't stand a chance when the chugs hit.
Lately I started recording cabinets (loaded with classics V30) with a Behringer XM8500, a €30 microfone that is a little more acid than an SM57, and I love it! I play black metal and I find it perfect, I suggest you to try it by yourself, trist me you'll not regret it!
Glen! Thanks for making this video. I don't know if you saw my comment on your first video of the 6505 combo, I had suggested this very test. As I had said, if the room is small, often a small combo sounds bigger than a half-stack even WITH metal tones. Sometimes there just isn't enough space in the room to get all that air moving by a long-throw 4X12. Thanks for the video. I thought it would be a great option. Now you have scientifically proved it. Thank you Glen!
When you done the out of phase trick, there was more sound left over (AKA the difference in sound) than when you used the same trick with changing pickups, what a surprise. ;)
Glenn, I literally just found and bought a used 6505+ today for no other reason than to try this because of how neat it sounds after watching this video yesterday. I told myself I wouldn't do anything with a 5150 or anything in its direct family and what you demonstrated actually made me reconsider it. If nothing else, it will be a neat project amp and I'm stoked to swap out the speaker (I know it's a little thing but it's always weirded me out since I thought soldering would be involved and that's a skill I never actually developed). Thanks man! :)
My 2x12 cab has some custom built Ted Weber Legacys in it that my buddy consulted me on buying, and then ended up selling to me cuz he got a vintage Traynor amp and cab. Every amp I've plugged into it (and I tried quite a few) all agreed. They like the Weber speakers A LOT and so do I.
That phase cancelling segment was insane! I liked the brightness of the V for leads, but maybe overpowering for rhythm. The H and M both sounded great to my ears. I'm not really in the market for an amp at the moment, but looking forward to the next video on using it as a head. BTW the MUG arrived - thank you Glenn!
This is actually pretty cool how you show people all this. I'm interested in doing this. Very interested, it's done on a budget, but with a huge reward. Thank you.
I’ve got one of the 212 combos cut into a head, and let me say. This is totally true. I have tried it will several different cabs, and the speaker is definitely the factor holding it back. I’ve got an older Peavey 2x12 cab from the 80’s with black widows and it’s a much more solid Peavey cab for about half what you’ll pay for a new one.
That upper-mid grind of the BV25M is very reminiscent of the Celestion G12M Legacy/Heritage series (not the G12M Anniversary, which is a different beast). One of my all-time favourite speakers.
For the longest while I thought my 5150 combo was shitty sounding because i bought it used. Thought it was just the speakers being old or something but NOOOOPE. it was the damn shitfield. even opened it and saw the stickers on the back. might get a pair of the BV25M's for it, cuz man I really need the upgrade. Thank goodness for SMG's videos because it has really made me change my approach to just choosing what is right for upgrades. Keep up the amazing work!
Glenn, Jet City 5012C is Soldano Licensed amp that is a clone of HotRod 50+. Look into Jet City amps with two rocker switches, without jewel light. Those are modafunking killers blessed directly by Soldano.
Ok, so I followed your advice and got the 6505+ 112 combo and I was pretty impressed by the tubes and size for such a reasonable price. I got this monstrosity about 2 months ago and have been trying to figure out a decent setting ever since (guessing due to the sh!++y stock speaker?). Fast forward to today; I followed your advice yet again and ordered the mojotone bv30v on Sweetwater (on sale for 110 USD) and got it today. Followed these stupid simple instructions and the difference is literally night and day.
Who else likes it when Glenn yells and the red clip light comes on in Reaper? :) LOL We’re turning into the old guys that yell at kids to get off our lawn Glenn! “Raking the Lawn, Raking the Lawn!” ❤ from James Bay! \m/, ,\m/
It's kinda same for the Traynor YCS100H2. It used to sound like shit through the Vintage 30 loaded in the YCS412V2 cab. Swapped them for Jensen Stealth 65 and the amp sounds monstrous now.
lol sorry for the third comment but it looks like the BV30 H and V models in an crisscross pattern like people do with v30s and greenbacks will be what I load into the cab, this video saved me hundreds of dollars, thanks
I have a PRS MT15 and run that through the PRS-MT112…….but I pulled the V30s out and replaced with Eminence DV77. Love my sound! ESP EC1000 with Dimebucker to Maxon OD808 to MT15 with ISP Decimator and Sonic Stomp in the FX Loop. Simple earth rattling tone. Wanted a Cockblocker but was late to the order and now I just can’t find one.
To be fair, Carcass, Machine Head, and In Flames (as well as many others) blended solid state amps with their 5150's to get those "iconic" tones. They also used V30's!! MojoTone makes some pretty good, and affordable "imitation" oversized Mesa and Marshall 1960 cabs (loaded and unloaded), speakers, and a few good pickups (on the rare occasion they have them in stock).
I have a fucking guitar and free amp sims and i have been following this marvelous guy for ages! Cant do a shit about what he recommends, but still love him. Because of him, I could at least plug my guitar to the damn computer and lay down aome tracks. I am easily amused so they sounded great to me! Someday i gotta thank you in person Glen!!
When you talk about creating new tones by stayong clear of Celestions, I couldnt agree more. I LOVE the tone of Eminence Speakers. Id love to.see you put a set through thier paces and see your thoughts
I played through those sheffield speakers when I got my 6505 and it sounded like a blanket was over the cab. I ended up buying a randall cab with Jaguar 60s. It was so much better than everything else.
Hey Glenn, Why not try adding a powerful magnet on the back of the shitfield? Like the neody magnets sticking it at the back... I tried it on a cheap 70/80 speaker and it added more definition on bottoms and mids
An amazing super unique speaker is the Celestion G15V-100. I made a cab with two of them in and I play suuuuper heavy shit on my 8 string through them and they sound incredible! Basically 15 inch green backs with the frequency response shifted slightly lower. Really throaty growly sound. Highly recommend!
@@SpectreSoundStudios I'm very interested how you did it. I just sew off the bottom of the whole box, then right under the grille and screwed the bottom back under the head. Done! The cool thing about that is, that it's not as loud as the 6505 head, plus you've got the cool illuminated Peavey logo and you get a DI out just like with the 6505MH. Just love it.
I think the closed-back might have something to do with the 'not the usual combo' sound. I have a Boogie Mk IV combo that sounds really good as a combo, but sounds amazing through a closed-back cabinet, even a 1x12. Much tighter low-end.
Nice! I have been guilty of not using anything but Mesa or Orange cabs. But there is a ton of good gear that won't break the bank. Definitely a good time to be a player.
I'd also suggest a Celestion 150 watt Redback. I threw one into a Mesa Mark IV combo. When tweaked carefully there's no need to move the amp into a heads hell. A combo along with a second 1x12 closed back cabinet kicks BUTT. You can spread them out for a wide sound.
Gleeeennnn, you playing the JP "Gotta Another Thing Coming" riff and me stuck at a red light has tempted me to put one foot on the brake, one on the gas, and do doughnuts in front of a cop! 😂 (And I do have a BMW I can do it in).
I got my hands on an original 5150 combo last fall for cheap because someone messed with the guts and didn’t know how to put it back together. After fixing their mess, I unplugged the “Shefs” and ran into a pair of V30s in an external. Goddamn, did that fix EVERYTHING wrong. 🤣
I totally bought one of these combos after seeing your last video. Got it for 450 dollar bucks. I'm thinking of replacing the Shitfield speaker with the Eminence DV-77.
I’m actually excited to see your next video on how to turn this into a head. I’ve been debating getting one, but I have so many combos and not enough space for them.
@@haydenkayne i know how to hook it into a separate cabinet. I was hoping he meant actually putting it into a head instead of keeping the whole combo cabinet.
Got the Glenns IR pack with, revv, engl, coffee and eagle cab IR's. Gotta say I prefer the Revv ET90 with 421 mic and Coffee K100 with 421 mic to any of the V30. V30 IR's are no longer a go to. Good thing about digital is you can easily change and test what sounds best to you.
Hah I'm doing a retro version of this and was thinking of swapping out the Sheffield in my bandit 112 for a Seventy Eighty or something of a different brand so cool to hear a new to me brand of speaker. Keep up the sciencey stuff 😂
I personally like the BV30H the most since I like that grindy top end, but the BV25M is also great. Both would be good blended I think.
Absolutely. The lead tone on the BV30H cut through better. But the BV25M had the chuggy low mids. Blending the 2 would sound quite full.
Good call. Blending them would be awesome. Maybe even layer all 3. But if left with one choice the M is the one
ALL were an improvement! The 30H had the best clarity overall. Clean sounds SHOULD have been considered as well, as not all speakers to both types of signals well!
(UNLESS they're LORANTZ speakers of course! )
Glenn doing the lords work PROVING how much a speaker changes your tone!
Mojotone makes amazing speakers. Love the greyhounds and the British vintage series. The Bv-25ms rival my amazing vintage celestions. The greyhounds sound incredible with just about every high gain amp I’ve recorded through them
I replaced some V30s with WGS speakers and love them, but then I discovered the greyhounds and now I want a cab with those
@@Gainovermg yeah the greyhounds cover some of the ground that V30s do, but they actually work for cleans, and don’t have that spikey upper midrange. It’s like all the stuff I like in a V30 without the drawbacks. My bandmate has an invective and we couldn’t believe how great 2 greyhounds and 2 creamback M75s sound together with that amp.
Would you suggest to pair a greyhound with a V30. I would like to try this combo but i don't know if this will sound awesome together
I got a pair of the anthems
They Rock hard
This is why I love this channel. I know a LOT of (mostly useless) information about guitars, but up until about a year ago, the only thing I knew about amps was how to turn them on.
I've had a 6505 for a long time and I've honestly wondered why it's never really sounded right. Really appreciate this video Glenn.
Have you broken in the speaker? Makes a big difference imo.
Throw a Celestion Creamback 65 in it and you'll swear it's a totally different amp.
So awesome. I have a Marshall 4 x 12. It has the evh, bv 25m, swamp thing and stock celestial speaker in it (waiting on a Hesu demon)
That one cab, coupled with a multitude of mics and I’m overwhelmed with tone choices. It’s a lot of fun.
Johan and Glenn. Both are my “go to” for speaker stuff. 🤘🤘
The combo amp is actually pretty good. Some people don’t like the stock speaker but I think it sounds just fine once you dial in your tone.
Finally someone who makes the bassline audible in their mixes
Maybe it’s because i grew up playing thru em but I like my G12T-75s . I know it’s not the industry preferred driver but I know how it responds and I like it’s or I’m used to it’s flavor.
My current drivers are in a Sunn 412 that toured as a bass cab for years before I got it.
The G12T-75 is a good speaker, the bad reputation comes mainly from people not knowing how to use them. Like every other Celestion speaker, its sound shifted in different eras, probably due to production choices. I love how it sounds combined with a good Greenback, they're from the same heritage so they mix well, however it adds depth in the low end and bite in the high end, while the Greenback dominates the midrange.
Just as a side note: speaker polarity only matters when using multiple speakers. If you switch the polarity on one speaker, it will be in opposite phase to the other and cancel it out. The same is true when using multiple amps and/or cabs: make sure the polarity is identical on all of them. When this is your only amp, the polarity on the speaker matters not.
I don't have a 6505 combo so I won't be doing a speaker replacement, but the laser pointer tip was worth it's weight in gold.
I was looking forward to this video and it didn't disappoint. All three tones are worthy of use, but if I had to choose one, I'd pick the 30V.
this video annihilates any argument against the amount of sonic change one can expect from swapping speakers. good on you, Glen! this argument can now be laid to rest.
This is absolutely an A+ video. I don’t like the idea of luging around (or paying for) a cabinet in addition to a combo. Seeing exactly how to put a new speaker in, and hearing the difference between the two is GREAT.
What Ièm loving is the bass tone! WTF? It's freaking amazing! We need a video on how to get that killer bass tone!
As a cab builder who uses Mojotone speakers- I love them! My builds usually have BV-30Hs or Greyhounds in them. But some of my absolute favorite mixes came from the 30V and their Watchtower greenbacks.
I really do want to try out the watchtowers!
Excellent advice when you said the Sheffield speaker sucked. I tried to like it back in the day and wanted to like it but quickly found out it was inferior to fane, celestion, and eminence models. THE SPEAKER IS THE FILTER. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AND PUT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN. You've single handedly made us guitar players everywhere {that have 30+ years of experience} happy. And hopefully some young-uns too. You deserve more business sir.!!
I started watching this video in my car as I was waiting for some heavy weather to pass so I could drive on, and the difference between the original speakers and the upgrades is clear even on a phone speaker. When watching the video again through some decent monitors, it is even more incredible. My fav is the BV30H, that speaker sounds fantastic!
I own that amp. the speaker alone is not enough of an upgrade. what worked for me and blew me away I changed the internal speaker cable with a monster cable and the amp came to life and the sound is orgasmic
I love the 30H sound! I like the top end clarity without slashing the ears. The M sounds kinda hollow, maybe? I've been looking for a speaker to swap the crappy one that my Marshall combo comes with, but I'm certain this one will gwt the job done.
😜🤘Never ending Classic Amp!!! Probably on just as many Metal Albums as a Mesa Boogie 👽👀
One of my only regrets as a young lad was faced with a selection between Black Widow and Sheffield, I thought the font looked more refined so I thought the Sheffield would have a more refined sound. Maybe it sounds better after being in storage for a few decades. Tone crafting molds and spores perhaps.
9:50 I actually prefer the sheffield. But then again my favourite speaker is the T75, which everyone shits on nowadays despite it having been used on a billion classic metal records
Yeah I have two Marshall quads loaded with them from that era when I brought the cabs. One thing I really like about them is that each quadbox is rated in total at 300 watts with them inside! Would I ever run a 300 watt per channel power amp into them? Probably not, but it gives one confidence that you're not gonna pop it!
Dang Glenn really made djentlike instrumental sound more like it came from the 80s.
Love it. Sounds more natural. I get tired of the wall of ambience and hyper-processed sounding drums with djent production.
That's the sound he likes, so power to him. I would say he nailed it! Hahah
Ain't he the best
I dig it
It doesn't djent at all and that's a good thing
Im a big fan of Mojotone. A few years back, I built one of their DIY JCM800 clones. The thing slaps.
I just picked one up used with a cabinet for 400 bucks. Thing sounds fucking amazing
My 1971 Marshall cabinet with G 12 M’s is a freaking awesome speaker that brings home the mojo, I’ve tried others and kept coming back to it… Keep on rockin
I’ve got some 1977 Blackbacks that are ridiculously awesome! Definitely a fan of the old g12m series!!
I’ve had this combo for about 9 years, ended up chopping it up to remove the cab (basically giving me a 60w head) and no reasonable amount of money could make me part with it it’s amazing
Yes!! Hey Glen I really appreciate you pushing MoJo. My younger brother Andrew has been with them since they were in a shop behind the owners house. Aside of working with the signature artist, and content creators he is on the R&D for alot of their products including speakers. I remember testing the B30s in Andrews garage when they were still in the development stages.
Andrew is a metal guitar player at heart, They got the sauce they thats for sure.
Love the show, long time fan here.
I just loaded the mojotone Anthem....Dude these are crazy good.....this dude speaks truth
Glen, after watching your first video on this amp I decided it was time to leave behind the solid state Marshall I've been playing since high school and get a big boy amp. On your advice I bought one of these for $400. The sound was disappointing at first, which I knew might be the case ahead of time knowing what you had said about the speaker and what I had read about the speaker on forums. The original speaker is not even a real Sheffield, as Sheffields are made in the USA, and this is made somewhere in China. After changing out what I assume were the original preamp tubes (V1 and V5 were toast) things definitely improved. And most importantly, I got a new speaker made at the factory in Eminence, KY, about an hour from my house. Now, it sounds like a real amp! Fronting it with a tube screamer clone really helped too.
I found the original speaker to be muffled and ice picky. If you like a cheap knock off of a green back with scooped mids (on an amp known for its mids) really fizzy highs, and farty lows, the original speaker may be fine for you. As for me, my 6505+ proudly wears an "Eminence inside" badge! Lots of people have replaced the speakers in these with a V30, or with an Eminence Governor or Swamp Thang. I didn't do any of those, because I didn't want to sound like everybody else! But what I did put in there sounds good.
You haven't mentioned this in either of your two videos on this amp, but I think it is important for people to know there is a bit of an issue with the FX loop. It is not transparent. Many people complain about it, but some people like it better. However, this can be fixed very cheaply if you are any good at soldering and know what parts of the amp to stay away from so you don't get shocked and die.
As a side note, because a certain angry, long-haired Canadian would have told me to, I did an A/B test. I'm glad I did too, because at first I couldn't tell much difference between the speakers, but listening back to back shows they are quite different. Let me know if you want the files Glen, and I'll send them to you.
Thanks! Loving the new amp!
Speakers are what matter! Those BVM's sound freaking awesome! I wish I would have learned how MUCH MORE IMPORTANT SPEAKERS really are! DAMN! I sold my Peavey combo because it never sounded that great- EDUCATION CAN BE EXPENSIVE.....great stuff man!!! I am subbed!
Great demonstration Glenn!! I personally installed a DV-77 couple years back into my combo from a V30, and it sounds amazing, a lot more focused. Love these combos, very versatile if you work with it.
That's my sound! I prefer using an amp that has more watts than the speaker. It is great to hear it in a quality mix. Your videos are a gem to the metal community! Keep up the good work!
Been gigging with the 6505+ 112 for years and it hasn’t done me wrong yet. My old 6505+ head is a studio queen now haha
For years I ran my guitar through my 1st gen script version 5150 head into a 15" Peavey Black Widow speaker cab. It always sounded great for what I was looking for. Pictures hanging on the wall didn't stand a chance when the chugs hit.
Great video.
I picked up a 6505 plus combo for $200
And turned into an amp head and wrapped it in purple tolex.
Cool!!
Lately I started recording cabinets (loaded with classics V30) with a Behringer XM8500, a €30 microfone that is a little more acid than an SM57, and I love it! I play black metal and I find it perfect, I suggest you to try it by yourself, trist me you'll not regret it!
Also I mic'd by putting the microphone center at the joint between the cone and the cup
BV30V was definitely my favorite of the three. Although I wonder if adding the bv30h and the bv30v to same cab could make for an interesting sound.
Glen! Thanks for making this video. I don't know if you saw my comment on your first video of the 6505 combo, I had suggested this very test. As I had said, if the room is small, often a small combo sounds bigger than a half-stack even WITH metal tones. Sometimes there just isn't enough space in the room to get all that air moving by a long-throw 4X12. Thanks for the video. I thought it would be a great option. Now you have scientifically proved it. Thank you Glen!
Honestly, I’d have to shoot it out against a 4x12 for there to be any valid science to it, but it did sound pretty great in the mix!
When you done the out of phase trick, there was more sound left over (AKA the difference in sound) than when you used the same trick with changing pickups, what a surprise. ;)
I didn’t do a null test on pickups. Tubes, yes. Pickups, no.
@@SpectreSoundStudios my mistake then, could a sworn I'd seen it, guess my memory is failing me 😂
Appreciated the Priest riffage when you started playing
I was lucky enough to be able to try one through a Marshall quad. So I hooked into one straight away. :)
Glenn, I literally just found and bought a used 6505+ today for no other reason than to try this because of how neat it sounds after watching this video yesterday. I told myself I wouldn't do anything with a 5150 or anything in its direct family and what you demonstrated actually made me reconsider it. If nothing else, it will be a neat project amp and I'm stoked to swap out the speaker (I know it's a little thing but it's always weirded me out since I thought soldering would be involved and that's a skill I never actually developed). Thanks man! :)
This will help! th-cam.com/video/7OiZrWiJUx8/w-d-xo.html
My 2x12 cab has some custom built Ted Weber Legacys in it that my buddy consulted me on buying, and then ended up selling to me cuz he got a vintage Traynor amp and cab. Every amp I've plugged into it (and I tried quite a few) all agreed. They like the Weber speakers A LOT and so do I.
I still really want to check those out!
That phase cancelling segment was insane! I liked the brightness of the V for leads, but maybe overpowering for rhythm. The H and M both sounded great to my ears.
I'm not really in the market for an amp at the moment, but looking forward to the next video on using it as a head. BTW the MUG arrived - thank you Glenn!
literally just bought this for my first real amp like a month ago, it's amazing
Dude! DUDE! That tone on the playthrough?! That is killer!
Hey Glenn, just wanted to say hope you and your family stay safe from the fires.
We’re nowhere close, but thank you, it’s sincerely appreciated!
100% freaking awesome breakdown and logic here. Speakers make a massive difference. Damn, I love these type of vids. Crushing it.
Thank you, Glen, you have save me so much money over the last couple of years it is ridiculous. I just ordered some Mojotone BVs.
This was a tight video Glenn. Upping the game again on the video work, and scripting!
This is actually pretty cool how you show people all this. I'm interested in doing this. Very interested, it's done on a budget, but with a huge reward. Thank you.
My pleasure! Next episode I’m turning it into a head!
Nice. It sounds like a Marshall cab. I dig the bb 25. Very old-school
I’ve got one of the 212 combos cut into a head, and let me say. This is totally true. I have tried it will several different cabs, and the speaker is definitely the factor holding it back. I’ve got an older Peavey 2x12 cab from the 80’s with black widows and it’s a much more solid Peavey cab for about half what you’ll pay for a new one.
That upper-mid grind of the BV25M is very reminiscent of the Celestion G12M Legacy/Heritage series (not the G12M Anniversary, which is a different beast). One of my all-time favourite speakers.
Professor Farnsworth: "no fair! You change the results by measuring them!"
But seriously, the difference is pretty wild.
I love that Kyuss shirt
Proves you don't hate stoner bass players solely on principle
For the longest while I thought my 5150 combo was shitty sounding because i bought it used. Thought it was just the speakers being old or something but NOOOOPE. it was the damn shitfield. even opened it and saw the stickers on the back. might get a pair of the BV25M's for it, cuz man I really need the upgrade. Thank goodness for SMG's videos because it has really made me change my approach to just choosing what is right for upgrades. Keep up the amazing work!
Good luck, dude! Enjoy the upgrade!
Glenn, Jet City 5012C is Soldano Licensed amp that is a clone of HotRod 50+. Look into Jet City amps with two rocker switches, without jewel light. Those are modafunking killers blessed directly by Soldano.
I saw some people convert old cheap 15w practice amp to use with real cabinet and not the 7 inch build-in speaker. You should try to see how it sound.
All of the Mojotone speakers sounded really good. But, if I was going to make a recommendation, I would highly suggest the Celestion Creamback 65.
Ok, so I followed your advice and got the 6505+ 112 combo and I was pretty impressed by the tubes and size for such a reasonable price. I got this monstrosity about 2 months ago and have been trying to figure out a decent setting ever since (guessing due to the sh!++y stock speaker?).
Fast forward to today; I followed your advice yet again and ordered the mojotone bv30v on Sweetwater (on sale for 110 USD) and got it today. Followed these stupid simple instructions and the difference is literally night and day.
Who else likes it when Glenn yells and the red clip light comes on in Reaper? :) LOL
We’re turning into the old guys that yell at kids to get off our lawn Glenn! “Raking the Lawn, Raking the Lawn!”
❤ from James Bay! \m/, ,\m/
That blueback V30 sounds great!!!Thanks Glenn for the awesome content.👍
The BV-30H sound hella nice. Crisp like I like it!
It's kinda same for the Traynor YCS100H2.
It used to sound like shit through the Vintage 30 loaded in the YCS412V2 cab.
Swapped them for Jensen Stealth 65 and the amp sounds monstrous now.
lol sorry for the third comment but
it looks like the BV30 H and V models in an crisscross pattern like people do with v30s and greenbacks will be what I load into the cab, this video saved me hundreds of dollars, thanks
I have a PRS MT15 and run that through the PRS-MT112…….but I pulled the V30s out and replaced with Eminence DV77. Love my sound! ESP EC1000 with Dimebucker to Maxon OD808 to MT15 with ISP Decimator and Sonic Stomp in the FX Loop. Simple earth rattling tone. Wanted a Cockblocker but was late to the order and now I just can’t find one.
To be fair, Carcass, Machine Head, and In Flames (as well as many others) blended solid state amps with their 5150's to get those "iconic" tones. They also used V30's!!
MojoTone makes some pretty good, and affordable "imitation" oversized Mesa and Marshall 1960 cabs (loaded and unloaded), speakers, and a few good pickups (on the rare occasion they have them in stock).
I have a fucking guitar and free amp sims and i have been following this marvelous guy for ages! Cant do a shit about what he recommends, but still love him. Because of him, I could at least plug my guitar to the damn computer and lay down aome tracks. I am easily amused so they sounded great to me! Someday i gotta thank you in person Glen!!
When you talk about creating new tones by stayong clear of Celestions, I couldnt agree more. I LOVE the tone of Eminence Speakers. Id love to.see you put a set through thier paces and see your thoughts
I played through those sheffield speakers when I got my 6505 and it sounded like a blanket was over the cab. I ended up buying a randall cab with Jaguar 60s. It was so much better than everything else.
I hear ya, fellow Hamiltonian. I have one of those combos. Not a "Shitfield" fan either. Always use an external cab lol. Awesome video!
Hey Glenn,
Why not try adding a powerful magnet on the back of the shitfield? Like the neody magnets sticking it at the back... I tried it on a cheap 70/80 speaker and it added more definition on bottoms and mids
An amazing super unique speaker is the Celestion G15V-100. I made a cab with two of them in and I play suuuuper heavy shit on my 8 string through them and they sound incredible! Basically 15 inch green backs with the frequency response shifted slightly lower. Really throaty growly sound. Highly recommend!
The 25M sounds tighter and less "fizzy" (not that it has much fizz). That 25M is crisp and focuses. Totally dig it.
it was meant to replicate that classic greenback kind of sound so yeah.
I have a Mojotone BV30H paired with my Greenback and I like the pairing. Great speaker for not a lot of money.
I’ve got a 60 watt 5150 212 combo with an Eminence Governor and Swamp Thang in it, sounds killer. These Mojotones sound great though!
Great amp no doubt, thx for helping out people Glan by showing them a Gem. ROCK on!
I converted this thing into a head (stupid easy to do!) and play it through a 4x12 with good old Celestions. Sounds amazing!
I just started the conversion process. Video coming soon!
@@SpectreSoundStudios I'm very interested how you did it. I just sew off the bottom of the whole box, then right under the grille and screwed the bottom back under the head. Done! The cool thing about that is, that it's not as loud as the 6505 head, plus you've got the cool illuminated Peavey logo and you get a DI out just like with the 6505MH. Just love it.
I think the closed-back might have something to do with the 'not the usual combo' sound. I have a Boogie Mk IV combo that sounds really good as a combo, but sounds amazing through a closed-back cabinet, even a 1x12. Much tighter low-end.
4:36 Been there done that 100% recommend brings out a more Hole punchy tone
That 25m sounded freaking amazing. I may have to try that out at some point
All the speakers they sent you sounded solid but I’m with you, Glenn-that 25 ripped! Cool guitar, too. Love my LTDs. All the best!
I have 3 mojo tone 12" greyhound 70 watch and about an 8" anthem by mojo tone . These speakers are fantastic . Great video
Nice! I have been guilty of not using anything but Mesa or Orange cabs. But there is a ton of good gear that won't break the bank. Definitely a good time to be a player.
recently i bought some jensen and vgs speakers and like you said diferences are huge
I'd also suggest a Celestion 150 watt Redback. I threw one into a Mesa Mark IV combo. When tweaked carefully there's no need to move the amp into a heads hell. A combo along with a second 1x12 closed back cabinet kicks BUTT. You can spread them out for a wide sound.
Gleeeennnn, you playing the JP "Gotta Another Thing Coming" riff and me stuck at a red light has tempted me to put one foot on the brake, one on the gas, and do doughnuts in front of a cop! 😂 (And I do have a BMW I can do it in).
Don’t break any laws on my account!!!
@@SpectreSoundStudios 😆If I do, I'll have them send you the ticket! 😆😆🤣 Keep up the good work, My guy!
You're an excellent teacher and this video went right to the cerebellum. Thanks!
I got my hands on an original 5150 combo last fall for cheap because someone messed with the guts and didn’t know how to put it back together. After fixing their mess, I unplugged the “Shefs” and ran into a pair of V30s in an external. Goddamn, did that fix EVERYTHING wrong. 🤣
I loved this amp. One of the best combo amps ever.
I totally bought one of these combos after seeing your last video. Got it for 450 dollar bucks. I'm thinking of replacing the Shitfield speaker with the Eminence DV-77.
That’s a great choice!!
@@SpectreSoundStudios I hope so! Sometimes us bass players make good decisions. ;)
MOJOTONE TO THE RESCUE AGAIN!!!
This is the Glenn we all show up for 🙌
Thanks for coming by!
I’m actually excited to see your next video on how to turn this into a head. I’ve been debating getting one, but I have so many combos and not enough space for them.
hook up a 1/4" jack to the speaker wire, plug cable from 1/4 jack to cab, make sure your ohms are correct.
@@haydenkayne i know how to hook it into a separate cabinet. I was hoping he meant actually putting it into a head instead of keeping the whole combo cabinet.
Clicked on this just for the Kyuss shirt. Good taste Glenn.
Got the Glenns IR pack with, revv, engl, coffee and eagle cab IR's. Gotta say I prefer the Revv ET90 with 421 mic and Coffee K100 with 421 mic to any of the V30. V30 IR's are no longer a go to. Good thing about digital is you can easily change and test what sounds best to you.
Hah I'm doing a retro version of this and was thinking of swapping out the Sheffield in my bandit 112 for a Seventy Eighty or something of a different brand so cool to hear a new to me brand of speaker. Keep up the sciencey stuff 😂
Yes, laserpointer should be in every bands toolbox.