So an "Christian" would believe in a bloke that couldn't be killed, that could walk on water, talking snakes in a garden and a god that became a burning bush , that talked before allowing mankind to murder his son , but not believe a physic? 😂😂😂
Richard Hammond's always a pleasure to watch as a serious telling rather than the fop he is topgear. As usual, the broadcast well-researched and told in a humorristisk way. See also the broadcast he made on the Japanese high speed train Shinkansen
Speak for yourself. I love his goofy, child-like personality on TG/TGT. I also imagine he has far more fun. Don't get me wrong, I like him in stuff like this as well, but I love seeing him be a goof.
Justin Lee ... Seeing as the da vinci code is a fictional novel... is it hardly surprising that facts are thin throughout it...? Remember always that the deceiver attempts to mislead those made in Yahweh's image with a storyline that is 90% truth and the balance some twisted values solely intended to confuse us... Discernment is important... ...
You're correct about the lack of facts in the DaVinci Code. And thanks for the info about Tony Robinson. It so happens that I authored a book entitled "The Holy Grail is Found." And it speaks quite literally; not figuratively. THE Holy Grail has indeed finally been found; there is no other. And my book makes quite a compelling case for that fact. The Holy Grail is the greatest of all treasures. And as the legends promise, it offers immortality to all who partake of it. The Grail was never a physical cup, however. But it is indeed the metaphysical "cup" that Jesus Christ drank from, as He Himself attests in the New Testament. So, if you think you are ready for the Holy Grail, it has finally been revealed. "Seek and ye shall find."
Lack of facts in the davinci code and ZERO facts in the bible. Pure FICTION and stories , from a time when people had no concept of science and misunderstood things like death - ie: they were scared of the unknown. Now (most of us) know better thankfully. Just a few hanging on to old fables that they've been indoctrinated in, since childhood.
i was into this story up until the introduction of the american psychic. I watched Penn & tellers Bullshit-ESP yesterday and as soon as he said "helping the police with finding missing people" the voice in my head screamed BULLSHIT
***** What are you talking about? I don't think you understand my comment... (Not that it matters, but where I live, 16 year olds are not children, not from a legal POV, and I was 16 once... And they are not how they used to be)
divorcedme When I was 16, we didn't tap 46 year olds. Things changed, I don't moralize, just saying. :) And yes, some are rancid, longing to misunderstand.
There's so much to the Saunierre story, he was a priest,yet on his deathbed after hearing his confession he was refused absolute unction, when the authors of the book originally broadcast the story a priest who knew Saunierre phoned up the BBC and said that he had proof Christ didn't die on the cross(he denied saying so later),all 3 gave up their jobs with the Beeb, moved to the area to research and write the book. It wasn't just Cathars that were burnt at montsegur, the mercenaries that had been employed converted to Catharism knowing what their fate would be. Saunierres housekeeper also knew a lot but died suddenly unable to say. It really is a great book and story, much more to it than I can say here or dan brown in his poor copy of a true mystery
I am glad he was wise enough to keep a respectful and neutral tone through this whole thing. There is no need to mock people's beliefs even if many find them ridiculous. No doubt partly that was just because the BBC hoped to get some Christian viewership drawn by the Holy Grail subject, as well as secular types who just wanted to see Hammond. But I am glad all the same. Although historical topics always make me kind of sad. I find them extremely interesting, but it also saddens me to think of the stories we will never know, all the countless people who lived out their lives and who will never be known, at best maybe we have a tomb or some inscription, and that is only for the more famous ones. You could be a famous warrior and live through many adventures and tragedies, private loves, their families and friends, and in the end you might get your name written down somewhere, maybe an effigy figure. Sometimes the names are not even legible, no one remembers anything else about you. And for the vast majority of people they didn't even get that. It makes me sad to think about.
Not every life is spectacular. Only a small percent of people choose to do something great with their life. We do have names, accounts, and stories of special individuals, but not everyone is familiar with every person's history. For most of human kind, your world was very small, maybe those in your village or immediate area. Only now do we have a greater understanding of those around us and those that came before us. Our modern history wont even be discovered tho. In previous centuries, information was transferred onto long lasting, hard wearing items like stone or metal. All of our digital media will be broken or destroyed in no time, unable to be discovered by civilizations after us.
A present day impression of the last supper and the Holy Grail, was held at McDonalds and the Holy Grail was a paper up, end of story, job done Richard now search for Planet X, and you will have more success.
One QUESTION Why was the cup kept anyway? For what reason would the caterers of the 'Last Supper' have separated it from the other 12-14 cups used that day? It seems to me that no particular emphasis would have been placed on it at the time.
I'm not a born Christian, but have always believed in Christ...I'm not from Europe, I'm from India, don't know much about history... Never knew about Holy Grail... just got to know about it few hrs back.. Fascinated by everyone's willingness to find the Holy Grail... Can someone shed some light and tell me why everyone wants to find it?
Its supposedly the cup used at the Last Supper where Jesus instituted the Eucharistic ritual - central to mainstream Christian liturgy…some myths say it also was used to collect some drops of Jesus’s blood from his crucifixion- I will leave the importance of those events to your imagination…..
When I was in Jerusalem I met the bloke who delivered the Pepperoni Pizza and garlic bread for The Last Supper. He even showed me the receipt. Just as real as the Holy Grail nonsense.
I've always loved the style of Morgans, but hearing that rattle in there has given me doubts! I'd expect the hamster to be more discerning with his purchase!
Jesus and the apostles held their celebration, ate, left, and the owner of the "restaurant" cleared up the table, washed and cleaned the utensils, went home and slept. Until that moment the cup from which Jesus drank had no importance yet and nobody had reason to believe it would have had such a great importance just a few hours later
I see the old 'Jesus is a myth' argument is alive and well in this comments section. It's not enough for non-Christians to deny Christ's divinity (which is a perfectly acceptable option with its own arguments) they have to embarrass themselves by siding with a very small number of scholars who deny he ever existed at all. Jesus is almost certainly a historical figure, the exact specifics of his life aren't known but that is true of _most_ ancient historical figures and really isn't an acceptable argument. We get it, you hate religion because a priest touched you or you're stupid enough to think that human beings _wouldn't_ kill each other without it, fine. Denying the existence of a historical figure just because he's the figurehead of a religion is fucking retarded, it's like denying the existence of L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith just because they have also been attributed divine/supernatural abilities. For the record I DO believe that Jesus was a deeply connected person and that he brought a message of love and tolerance, his being the son of God is something I'm not sure about but I'm keen to explore. I WAS an Atheist and it didn't make me any smarter or happier than I am now so please refrain from using that tired old stereotype.
Jesus's existence is actually a rather interesting topic, and not one with great consensus amongst medieval scholars. I was talking with a professor at UC Davis, and she said that his very existence is somewhat suspect due to the dearth of corroborative evidence at the time. Notably, romans kept records of trials and executions, and no record exists in the region and time period that jesus is supposed to have existed of anyone being accused and executed of the crimes he supposedly were crucified for. Other details, such as the census and excecution of children also never happened. The romans were actually a fairly advanced bureaucratic society with thorough record keeping and management. None of their records indicate jesus's existence.
The very mention of UC Davis is suspect though due to its political leanings. Historically speaking there is both religious and non-religious confirmation of Jesus life and his death. I'm afraid that you are incorrect in that the Romans did not keep those records. They exist.
RhetoricalQuestion Of course the entire school follows a strict political slant. What garbage. You can say they exist, but unless you show proof, I'll take a scholar's word over yours.
RhetoricalQuestion What about his work? I don't see anything from him related to research into roman record keeping. Most of its just his conversion to christianity.
Unfortunately, the existence or lack of existence of Roman records isn't concrete evidence of for or against. Let's just assume that a person named Jesus Christ existed who claimed to be a messenger from YHWH and a representative of the Jews. As a roman dignitary in charge of the region, you have a visionary gathering a huge cult following based on a variation of the Jewish faith (an already persecuted religion), in an already volatile region in ISRAEL ready to ignite from political and religious in-fighting. Say that Jesus was executed by crucifixion; you have just created an immortal martyr that would cement the faith of his followers for generation upon generation. Instead of doing the clever thing and discrediting, you kill the man because things are just getting worse and worse and a martyr is better than a civil war. So what are you going to do to try to minimise the aftereffect and consequences of this martyrdom? You erase the record of the execution so at the very LEAST you have deniability on your side. In fact, finding the execution of Jesus Christ as listed would do more to paint him as a minor annoyance instead of a significant threat. No matter how you look at it, the evidence or lack of it, can be construed and interpreted in different ways. Unfortunately, Constantinople (what is now Istanbul) does have religious relics which date back to that time, or DID have religious relics that date back to that time. There is evidence of the existence of Jesus's followers and their mark on the world. Either this was a huge scam on the part of the apostles, or Jesus Christ did exist in some shape or form, or the legend of Christianity sprung up from an entirely different source and very quickly (as there is evidence of Christianity existing in large numbers quite soon after the supposed death of Christ, talking in century terms). What I'm saying is, much better to be agnostic rather than to assert the existence or lack of existence of something that can easily be construed to exist either way.
+James L if there actually was a grail, it probably wouldn't be metal. That would be way too expensive considering the setting of the gospel. If anything you're looking for a wooden or stone cup.
As a devoted catholic... Even I call bullshit on the existence of the ancient Christian artifacts... And here's why... For 300 years after Christ's death... It was illegal to be Christian... At the time NO ONE not ANY of the apostles or anyone else would have considered preserving any of the items we associate today... We're talking about wood... Bloody Linen... and hunks of metal... And seeing as how Christ was a Jew in ROMAN territory... More than likely ANY of the things we hold sacred were either recycled I.E. the Nails... Or destroyed... Like the linen... Or simply rotted away... The wooden cup Jesus more than likely drank from was probably a wooden bowl... Common for the time... Regardless... I'll watch this thing just to see what the hell comes of it...
well not quite, for the first century or so it was just a niche religion nobody really cared about. It became illegal as it became more prominent and started to threaten the official roman religion (and the money it made from its temples). Nevertheless, there were as many christianities as there are baptist churches in the US...so any genuine articles from Jesus (not even going to get into the historicity) surviving and falling into the hands of what later became the catholic church, is highly unlikely.
Jay K Jesus also never taught that earthly materials hold any worth... "Give Cesar what is his" and all... So again... No one should have even considered saving any of that stuff anyway... I also have no idea what your comment really meant so I'm just saying what's coming to my head...
Videogeek95 Having trouble with reading comprehension? Let me break it down. thousands of small christian cults...a handful of genuine artifacts = 0.000000001~% probability of a specific cult, that then became the catholic church, obtaining a specific artifact, that was supposedly missing for a few centuries. In the first part I just corrected your statement that christianity was illegal immediately after Jesus' supposed crucifiction.
+akamyszek The Roman's have records of someone they killed by the name..... I'm not religious or whatever....but HG was interesting....I mean, what if THC took it? Richard the Lionhearted may have gotten it? Who knows?
Herod's entire existence was based around being scared of Jesus. Regardless, other than translating from Aramaic, look into the writings of Pliny, first-century Roman Tacitus, Flavius Josephus.
Edohiguma I was raised catholic and I 100% agree you! NOBODY can argue a 'book' is 100% factual when a COUNCIL OF MEN sat and decided as to what got put into the book and left out ANYTHING that showed he was a REAL MAN and instead put in 'stories' ALWAYS showing him as a 'divine' being'!!! Plus totally skipping very important years of him growing up proves that even back then - there was suppression of information and it's only gotten worse!
Actually there was a programme about the holy grail a while back, and it all came down to a church in Scotland. This is when the archaeologists did something stupid, they said that the hunt for the grail is still on as the tomb only had a body and a wooden dish in. Now you have to remember that Jesus was a carpenter....so that wooden dish will be the Grail. Sadly i never found out what they did with it.
It was Himmler who was the Occult master of the Reich. And Himmler most certainly did have ambitions of obtaining the grail. To be kept at his SS castle in Bavaria, along with the bones of the dead German heroes of history which he believed also had the powers necessary to bestow eternal life, the grail would be essential in his project of breeding a race of new Aryan gods. The war came too soon for his plans to be put into action but he had definitely sent preliminary expeditions out to Egypt , Constantinople and Palestine looking for clues.
That bit by the priest at the end is bullshit. Part of the Apocrypha is specifically the book of Mary Magdeline. He has no idea what he's talking about.
The same can be said for 99% of people from any belief or lack thereof, Humans are almost always inherently hypocritical due to our ego. It takes an overwhelmingly rational person to embrace complete objectivity to the detriment of their own ego.
32:36 And the Biggest secret to the Big to small is the (Seperation) between the (Big Pyramid and small Pyramid) this is an UNDERSTANDING that all Terrans understand that allows them to Help STOP the aging process due to gravity caused by Sunlight allowing all Terrans to live a very long life of 500 plus years without disease, ailments, and joint pain.
I love how he ends it. "Wait, you think it's where? WHALES?!" Oh yeah. THe Welsh have been hiding it beneath Cardiff all this time, that's it. Right then. Captain Jack Harkness had it the WHOLE TIME in Torchwood... Oh you!
This man is searching the Holy Grail everywhere except the place where all the writers, troubadours and musicians told it is hidden: the North of Spain. I don't understand it .
yep theres a vault its not a secret you pay extra to visit it, if it did exist it would be in the families display case in their house not in the church
Spoiler : Hammond finds the Grail.He's then threatened by the Vatican into saying he hasn't. He lets us know this by acting out how they threatened him at 57:00
The crusades was also used as a unifying force for a warring Europe at that time. By providing the Europeans with a common enemy, the church brought them together. Not that I agree with their actions though.
glastonbury has two springs one red one white ie one has iron in the water the other doesnt, and, a good fish and chip shop with tables, and all sorts of colourful people
All these grail hunters, if it does exist then somebody has already nicked it and is keeping it on his shelf, laughing at all of us. That, or it was made of wood and has decomposed completely by now.
Well filmed and thought-provoking. Nice to see Hammond given a little free reign.
It's great irony hearing a priest debunking something with the argument "There is no evidence..."
Take a minute and think about that...
So true
Everybody has a right to their own beliefs and you have no business imposing yours upon them.
@@realadamsandler1991 What are you going on about?
That's kind of the problem. Taking just a minute.
Soon as i saw the psychic, this whole documentary had a serious drop in quality. Not even having Hammond as host salvages it.
She knew you were going to say that.
And she helped the American police with missing people cases, they are optimistic, aren't they
i think Hammond just said that because it's a trend with the Top Gear Trio to belittle American intelligence. Which is funny when they do it.
they didn't have her on on purpose she was just there and they talked to her. like the perfume lady or crop circle people
So an "Christian" would believe in a bloke that couldn't be killed, that could walk on water, talking snakes in a garden and a god that became a burning bush , that talked before allowing mankind to murder his son , but not believe a physic? 😂😂😂
Richard Hammond's always a pleasure to watch as a serious telling rather than the fop he is topgear. As usual, the broadcast well-researched and told in a humorristisk way. See also the broadcast he made on the Japanese high speed train Shinkansen
Speak for yourself. I love his goofy, child-like personality on TG/TGT. I also imagine he has far more fun. Don't get me wrong, I like him in stuff like this as well, but I love seeing him be a goof.
Wheres the rest of the round table? James Lancelot and Jeremy Pendragon?
sorry, I don't quite recall a Jeremy Pendragon?
Umm. What car is that?
It's a Morgan (modern build) They did a bit on it during Top Gear a few years back.
13thSystem we dont play dungeons and dragons
What a nice documentary. Richard is a great presenter!
Yep, and those whitened teeth are awesome!!
blessed are those who believe yet have not seen.
Or just daft
19:10 lol he really found two hippie fruit cakes
I think I prefer Tony Robinsons quest for the grail documentary exposing the total lack of facts in The Da Vinci Code
The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction, of course there are no FACTS, it is fiction.
Justin Lee ...
Seeing as the da vinci code is a fictional novel... is it hardly surprising that facts are thin throughout it...?
Remember always that the deceiver attempts to mislead those made in Yahweh's image with a storyline that is 90% truth and the balance some twisted values solely intended to confuse us...
Discernment is important...
...
You're correct about the lack of facts in the DaVinci Code. And thanks for the info about Tony Robinson. It so happens that I authored a book entitled "The Holy Grail is Found." And it speaks quite literally; not figuratively. THE Holy Grail has indeed finally been found; there is no other. And my book makes quite a compelling case for that fact. The Holy Grail is the greatest of all treasures. And as the legends promise, it offers immortality to all who partake of it. The Grail was never a physical cup, however. But it is indeed the metaphysical "cup" that Jesus Christ drank from, as He Himself attests in the New Testament. So, if you think you are ready for the Holy Grail, it has finally been revealed. "Seek and ye shall find."
Lack of facts in the davinci code and ZERO facts in the bible.
Pure FICTION and stories , from a time when people had no concept of science and misunderstood things like death - ie: they were scared of the unknown.
Now (most of us) know better thankfully.
Just a few hanging on to old fables that they've been indoctrinated in, since childhood.
the holy Grail of Jeremy Clarkson
i was into this story up until the introduction of the american psychic. I watched Penn & tellers Bullshit-ESP yesterday and as soon as he said "helping the police with finding missing people" the voice in my head screamed BULLSHIT
Even though Richard Hammond is 30 years older than me, I'd still tap that
True.
+Abbie Shaw 16 year olds are not what they used to be... ;)
***** What are you talking about? I don't think you understand my comment...
(Not that it matters, but where I live, 16 year olds are not children, not from a legal POV, and I was 16 once... And they are not how they used to be)
***** I can wink at you too... ;)
What do you even think that means...?
divorcedme When I was 16, we didn't tap 46 year olds. Things changed, I don't moralize, just saying. :)
And yes, some are rancid, longing to misunderstand.
Hammond travelled alot for this documentary and didn't crash once.
That we know of
You gotta love all the intellectuals here parading their smarts, like they've got something better to offer . 😂
I have veered off top gear and the only familiar option is captain slow telling me things I apparently need to know
Richard Hammond is a motoring god, he said so himself. Admittedly, he was driving a Bowler Wild Cat at the time. :-D
James May is Captain Slow, James May should be driving a Honda saloon (or maybe a Fiat Panda, something slow and functional).
I like how he was visible uncomfortable with the "Psychic".
Was he?
and on that bombshell...
I don't believe in any religion, but I have to admit that this history is very interesting.
Top gear and the search for the holy grail
I still think Monty Pythons documentary about the grail is better.
To ny mind he found the holy grail. Its the gorgeous morgan he is driving
There's so much to the Saunierre story, he was a priest,yet on his deathbed after hearing his confession he was refused absolute unction, when the authors of the book originally broadcast the story a priest who knew Saunierre phoned up the BBC and said that he had proof Christ didn't die on the cross(he denied saying so later),all 3 gave up their jobs with the Beeb, moved to the area to research and write the book.
It wasn't just Cathars that were burnt at montsegur, the mercenaries that had been employed converted to Catharism knowing what their fate would be.
Saunierres housekeeper also knew a lot but died suddenly unable to say.
It really is a great book and story, much more to it than I can say here or dan brown in his poor copy of a true mystery
I am glad he was wise enough to keep a respectful and neutral tone through this whole thing. There is no need to mock people's beliefs even if many find them ridiculous. No doubt partly that was just because the BBC hoped to get some Christian viewership drawn by the Holy Grail subject, as well as secular types who just wanted to see Hammond. But I am glad all the same.
Although historical topics always make me kind of sad. I find them extremely interesting, but it also saddens me to think of the stories we will never know, all the countless people who lived out their lives and who will never be known, at best maybe we have a tomb or some inscription, and that is only for the more famous ones. You could be a famous warrior and live through many adventures and tragedies, private loves, their families and friends, and in the end you might get your name written down somewhere, maybe an effigy figure. Sometimes the names are not even legible, no one remembers anything else about you. And for the vast majority of people they didn't even get that. It makes me sad to think about.
Not every life is spectacular. Only a small percent of people choose to do something great with their life. We do have names, accounts, and stories of special individuals, but not everyone is familiar with every person's history. For most of human kind, your world was very small, maybe those in your village or immediate area. Only now do we have a greater understanding of those around us and those that came before us. Our modern history wont even be discovered tho. In previous centuries, information was transferred onto long lasting, hard wearing items like stone or metal. All of our digital media will be broken or destroyed in no time, unable to be discovered by civilizations after us.
I'm a vicar who loves Top Gear/Grand Tour... perfect show for me lol
He certainly loves that bag
richard hammond Has the greates jobs in the world, top gear etc!
A present day impression of the last supper and the Holy Grail, was held at McDonalds and the Holy Grail was a paper up, end of story, job done Richard now search for Planet X, and you will have more success.
15:00 finally someone who is shorter than Richard Hammond
What if the Holy Grail is a METAPHOR?
It is actually. The cup is the moon and the host is the sun. It symbolizes the union of masculine and famine
It’s closer to a MacGuffin then a metaphors lol
We think everything that we can’t find is just a metaphor when in reality we as humans lose things , hide things and destroy things on purpose…
great videolist, thanks
One QUESTION Why was the cup kept anyway? For what reason would the caterers of the 'Last Supper' have separated it from the other 12-14 cups used that day? It seems to me that no particular emphasis would have been placed on it at the time.
I'm not a born Christian, but have always believed in Christ...I'm not from Europe, I'm from India, don't know much about history... Never knew about Holy Grail... just got to know about it few hrs back.. Fascinated by everyone's willingness to find the Holy Grail... Can someone shed some light and tell me why everyone wants to find it?
Its supposedly the cup used at the Last Supper where Jesus instituted the Eucharistic ritual - central to mainstream Christian liturgy…some myths say it also was used to collect some drops of Jesus’s blood from his crucifixion- I will leave the importance of those events to your imagination…..
Richard thought that the hole in the wall was made by peoples thumbs 😂 in fact an ancient glory hole 🤣
😂
You could have searched in Valencia, Spain, they have a cup in there that is supposedly the holy grail.
Of course there had to be an American with psychic powers...
hammond documentary are great
I'm guessing...... it never existed.
This subject has been hashed and rehashed
'' This is Istanbul. before that it was called Constantinople, before that, Byzantium. '' And it's also called Carigrad.
When I was in Jerusalem I met the bloke who delivered the Pepperoni Pizza and garlic bread for The Last Supper. He even showed me the receipt. Just as real as the Holy Grail nonsense.
A little off topic, but what car is he driving?
A Morgan
phill633vgs Maybe he's drving one because it has a holy grille. I'll get me coat. :)
David, you must not be a Brit petrol head, because you don't know he's driving a British Morgan
It's Hammond. This question isn't off topic.
I've always loved the style of Morgans, but hearing that rattle in there has given me doubts! I'd expect the hamster to be more discerning with his purchase!
Genius man he is
I HAVE NOT HAD MY TEETH DONE...
thx very much for the upload :)
Jesus and the apostles held their celebration, ate, left, and the owner of the "restaurant" cleared up the table, washed and cleaned the utensils, went home and slept. Until that moment the cup from which Jesus drank had no importance yet and nobody had reason to believe it would have had such a great importance just a few hours later
Agree. The cup is not important, what was in the cup is important. Humans not god put such importance on a cup.
I like the way Hammond looks absolutely dumbfounded @15:19 lol
15:19
Guys, can you tell me what is the music at 2:08?
Nice to see Richard did not crash for a change. Lol.
As much as I like JC and his ways, having teeth like him is much, much worse than having teeth whitened.
Red Dragon, White Dragon, 2 White oppossing lions over same White Crown
Bad wicked naughty Zoot!
I see the old 'Jesus is a myth' argument is alive and well in this comments section.
It's not enough for non-Christians to deny Christ's divinity (which is a perfectly acceptable option with its own arguments) they have to embarrass themselves by siding with a very small number of scholars who deny he ever existed at all.
Jesus is almost certainly a historical figure, the exact specifics of his life aren't known but that is true of _most_ ancient historical figures and really isn't an acceptable argument. We get it, you hate religion because a priest touched you or you're stupid enough to think that human beings _wouldn't_ kill each other without it, fine. Denying the existence of a historical figure just because he's the figurehead of a religion is fucking retarded, it's like denying the existence of L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith just because they have also been attributed divine/supernatural abilities. For the record I DO believe that Jesus was a deeply connected person and that he brought a message of love and tolerance, his being the son of God is something I'm not sure about but I'm keen to explore.
I WAS an Atheist and it didn't make me any smarter or happier than I am now so please refrain from using that tired old stereotype.
sipping from your cup Till it runneth over, Holy Grail.
i read somewhere that Jesus entered Jerusalem not on an donkey but in a P45
Jesus's existence is actually a rather interesting topic, and not one with great consensus amongst medieval scholars. I was talking with a professor at UC Davis, and she said that his very existence is somewhat suspect due to the dearth of corroborative evidence at the time. Notably, romans kept records of trials and executions, and no record exists in the region and time period that jesus is supposed to have existed of anyone being accused and executed of the crimes he supposedly were crucified for. Other details, such as the census and excecution of children also never happened. The romans were actually a fairly advanced bureaucratic society with thorough record keeping and management. None of their records indicate jesus's existence.
The very mention of UC Davis is suspect though due to its political leanings. Historically speaking there is both religious and non-religious confirmation of Jesus life and his death. I'm afraid that you are incorrect in that the Romans did not keep those records. They exist.
RhetoricalQuestion Of course the entire school follows a strict political slant. What garbage. You can say they exist, but unless you show proof, I'll take a scholar's word over yours.
TheEmperorGulcasa I didn't ask anyone to take my word for it. Look up Nabeel Qureshi's works.
RhetoricalQuestion What about his work? I don't see anything from him related to research into roman record keeping. Most of its just his conversion to christianity.
Unfortunately, the existence or lack of existence of Roman records isn't concrete evidence of for or against. Let's just assume that a person named Jesus Christ existed who claimed to be a messenger from YHWH and a representative of the Jews. As a roman dignitary in charge of the region, you have a visionary gathering a huge cult following based on a variation of the Jewish faith (an already persecuted religion), in an already volatile region in ISRAEL ready to ignite from political and religious in-fighting. Say that Jesus was executed by crucifixion; you have just created an immortal martyr that would cement the faith of his followers for generation upon generation. Instead of doing the clever thing and discrediting, you kill the man because things are just getting worse and worse and a martyr is better than a civil war. So what are you going to do to try to minimise the aftereffect and consequences of this martyrdom? You erase the record of the execution so at the very LEAST you have deniability on your side. In fact, finding the execution of Jesus Christ as listed would do more to paint him as a minor annoyance instead of a significant threat.
No matter how you look at it, the evidence or lack of it, can be construed and interpreted in different ways.
Unfortunately, Constantinople (what is now Istanbul) does have religious relics which date back to that time, or DID have religious relics that date back to that time. There is evidence of the existence of Jesus's followers and their mark on the world. Either this was a huge scam on the part of the apostles, or Jesus Christ did exist in some shape or form, or the legend of Christianity sprung up from an entirely different source and very quickly (as there is evidence of Christianity existing in large numbers quite soon after the supposed death of Christ, talking in century terms).
What I'm saying is, much better to be agnostic rather than to assert the existence or lack of existence of something that can easily be construed to exist either way.
amazing
c'mon man.. those things long got melted and recycled.... it is not the relic that is important.. it is the faith
+James L if there actually was a grail, it probably wouldn't be metal. That would be way too expensive considering the setting of the gospel. If anything you're looking for a wooden or stone cup.
Hmmmm you got a point there.. metal is expensive to manufacture
Upper middle class, master craftsmen, merchants. Along with the mention of capital. I reckon they could afford some nice things.
+David Frisken well, the apostles went to the upper room of Someone's house, and probably used their things for Passover.
James L ...
Yes... eyes fixed on Yeshua, developing a loving relationship with our redeemer...
Intersting.. nice i like it
As a devoted catholic... Even I call bullshit on the existence of the ancient Christian artifacts... And here's why...
For 300 years after Christ's death... It was illegal to be Christian...
At the time NO ONE not ANY of the apostles or anyone else would have considered preserving any of the items we associate today...
We're talking about wood... Bloody Linen... and hunks of metal... And seeing as how Christ was a Jew in ROMAN territory... More than likely ANY of the things we hold sacred were either recycled I.E. the Nails... Or destroyed... Like the linen... Or simply rotted away... The wooden cup Jesus more than likely drank from was probably a wooden bowl... Common for the time...
Regardless... I'll watch this thing just to see what the hell comes of it...
I am beginning to think that there is a Divine Person. I want to meet that Person and be freed of my hatred. To my mind this Person is The Holy Grail.
well not quite, for the first century or so it was just a niche religion nobody really cared about. It became illegal as it became more prominent and started to threaten the official roman religion (and the money it made from its temples). Nevertheless, there were as many christianities as there are baptist churches in the US...so any genuine articles from Jesus (not even going to get into the historicity) surviving and falling into the hands of what later became the catholic church, is highly unlikely.
Jay K Jesus also never taught that earthly materials hold any worth... "Give Cesar what is his" and all...
So again... No one should have even considered saving any of that stuff anyway...
I also have no idea what your comment really meant so I'm just saying what's coming to my head...
Videogeek95 Having trouble with reading comprehension? Let me break it down.
thousands of small christian cults...a handful of genuine artifacts = 0.000000001~% probability of a specific cult, that then became the catholic church, obtaining a specific artifact, that was supposedly missing for a few centuries.
In the first part I just corrected your statement that christianity was illegal immediately after Jesus' supposed crucifiction.
Jay K Yeah... Fuck off... I'm not arguing with an atheist who thinks my beliefs are idiotic because my ancestors "made god up"...
Piss off...
Fuck, how did I miss the second coming?
Since Jesus never existed, ther can't be a holy grail. Mistery solved.
+akamyszek The Roman's have records of someone they killed by the name.....
I'm not religious or whatever....but HG was interesting....I mean, what if THC took it? Richard the Lionhearted may have gotten it?
Who knows?
+akamyszek Jesus existed, but that is not the question scholars debate. It is whether or not he was actually "the son of God"
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Got'cha, cheers for the headsup =p
+Studer Andrew ....What records? What name was recorded?
Herod's entire existence was based around being scared of Jesus. Regardless, other than translating from Aramaic, look into the writings of Pliny, first-century Roman Tacitus, Flavius Josephus.
did you figure out the answer as you typed that?
JESUS n ever marriiage that is blaspheme and a fraud
thanks
Grow up.
His wife agrees with you.
What?
Edohiguma I was raised catholic and I 100% agree you!
NOBODY can argue a 'book' is 100% factual when a COUNCIL OF MEN sat and decided as to what got put into the book and left out ANYTHING that showed he was a REAL MAN and instead put in 'stories' ALWAYS showing him as a 'divine' being'!!!
Plus totally skipping very important years of him growing up proves that even back then - there was suppression of information and it's only gotten worse!
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Poppycock.
Everyone knows the Holy Grail is in a cat café down the road a 1/2 mile from Mel's Restaurant.
In Arizona.
United States of America.
amazing documentary
awsome
Coin flipping was known to the Romans as navia aut caput ("ship or head")...
if it's believed the mismatched tiles are an entrance, why don't they just lift them up and see what's below? they sound hollow.
because it's a scam. street mountebacks wouldn't tell you their ingredients .
tim mc cabe has it on block island I seen it with my own eyes amazing
Actually there was a programme about the holy grail a while back, and it all came down to a church in Scotland. This is when the archaeologists did something stupid, they said that the hunt for the grail is still on as the tomb only had a body and a wooden dish in. Now you have to remember that Jesus was a carpenter....so that wooden dish will be the Grail. Sadly i never found out what they did with it.
Glastonbury reminds me of Austin Texas LOL
Damn I need to get out more. Where exactly can I find the weird people?
It was Himmler who was the Occult master of the Reich. And Himmler most certainly did have ambitions of obtaining the grail. To be kept at his SS castle in Bavaria, along with the bones of the dead German heroes of history which he believed also had the powers necessary to bestow eternal life, the grail would be essential in his project of breeding a race of new Aryan gods.
The war came too soon for his plans to be put into action but he had definitely sent preliminary expeditions out to Egypt , Constantinople and Palestine looking for clues.
If the holy grail really excist, the most likely place to find it is in the dungeons of the Vatican, plus probably some other interesting things. 🤔
No there was a documentary that said the French already have one. Apparently it’s very nice…
10x richard hammond
We all know that the grail is buried at Oak Island....
With all that talking about the holy grail and all that walking around looking for it one would think he would clap some coconuts together.
whats the music at 2.39 strings
That bit by the priest at the end is bullshit. Part of the Apocrypha is specifically the book of Mary Magdeline. He has no idea what he's talking about.
The same can be said for 99% of people from any belief or lack thereof, Humans are almost always inherently hypocritical due to our ego. It takes an overwhelmingly rational person to embrace complete objectivity to the detriment of their own ego.
I like that tune at the end, whats the name of it?
a grail isn't a chalice isn't a cup
32:36 And the Biggest secret to the Big to small is the (Seperation) between the (Big Pyramid and small Pyramid) this is an UNDERSTANDING that all Terrans understand that allows them to Help STOP the aging process due to gravity caused by Sunlight allowing all Terrans to live a very long life of 500 plus years without disease, ailments, and joint pain.
I love how he ends it. "Wait, you think it's where? WHALES?!" Oh yeah. THe Welsh have been hiding it beneath Cardiff all this time, that's it. Right then. Captain Jack Harkness had it the WHOLE TIME in Torchwood... Oh you!
This man is searching the Holy Grail everywhere except the place where all the writers, troubadours and musicians told it is hidden: the North of Spain. I don't understand it .
hes great when hes not pretending to be stupid!!!!!
21:10- just think if the Holy Grail had actually been in that lady's perfume shop!
Glastonbury is a strange place, there is little beyond the bounds of possibility. :-D
Whats that music at 13.06?
yep theres a vault its not a secret you pay extra to visit it, if it did exist it would be in the families display case in their house not in the church
20:24 Off to the right. It's Jeeebus!
It's a place not a object not on your globe 😚
Spoiler : Hammond finds the Grail.He's then threatened by the Vatican into saying he hasn't. He lets us know this by acting out how they threatened him at 57:00
From: United States
To : Scotland
/ hello, you can keep that psychic 5:13 . no charge
what is the song in the background?
it partly resembles Caledonia (46:51-46:53)
The crusades was also used as a unifying force for a warring Europe at that time. By providing the Europeans with a common enemy, the church brought them together. Not that I agree with their actions though.
That's your opinion. Just because you dont believe in something doesn't mean it didn't exist.
glastonbury has two springs one red one white ie one has iron in the water the other doesnt, and, a good fish and chip shop with tables, and all sorts of colourful people
All these grail hunters, if it does exist then somebody has already nicked it and is keeping it on his shelf, laughing at all of us. That, or it was made of wood and has decomposed completely by now.
by using his imaginary friend? mine tells me that the grail is sat on the mantle piece of some old dears fire place down in shropshire
I don't want to watch the whole movie, so did he find it?