@@demonictrinity6834 let it toxic you and steal its poison heal, nice. Bulky Dusclops with eviolite and poison heal is insane. Love creative strats like that.
Genuinely finding your tactics incredibly inspiring, was having a lot of problems with Expert Post Game Aklove, so I was curious and looked up what strategies others were using and was pointed to your Insane Version of the fight, truly pretty inspiring. This was another great battle, and I look forward to trying to take some of the lessons you pointed out and apply them to my own Expert Battle.
Thank you friend! I appreciate the support and I’m glad you’ve found the videos helpful! I’m also interested in seeing how other people handle these difficult battles, and showing the answers/tactics I’ve found in the case that it can be helpful or entertaining to others. That’s one of the best parts of Pokémon, is that there’s multiple ways to accomplish the same goal. I know that insane mode might not translate perfectly to expert, but hopefully it can be helpful at least somewhat!
This is the next gym for me and I'm terrified. This battle makes you utilize something I most people don't really do: take advantage of their secondary type.
This is the hardest battle in the entire game imo! You definitely have to exploit her pokemon’s secondary typings, and stealth rocks are pretty useful as well. Let me know if you’re stuck and need some advice!
I finished that game this week and let me tell you I had so much fun, there was a lot to do during the story even before the first 3 gyms. There is so much to do postgame as well props to the guys who developed that game 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed your playthrough! The main developer goes by Skeli. Him and the team did quite an incredible job on this game, it’s probably my favorite rom hack of all time.
bruh im telling you that pinsir was a pain. it was ohkoing my azumarill with FEINT . Even at -1 attack that thing is so broken I did catch minior but i dint use it for stealth rocks though. Then was the crobat who easily set up using its focus sash and ripped my team . The most broken thins is pinsir's moveset feint storm throw(which always crits and ohko my max defense lairon) eq and some bug move. I gave up . But then after watchin ur video i just used one turn to set up stealth rocks and i won. No sash crobat and NO BROKEN PINSIR. It really takes a genius mind to come up with strats to beat this ridiculously hard game btw where did u get the eviolite
Yeah, that Pinsir is unreal. Fantastic move coverage and also has facade which due to his ability, still hits ghost types, so he’s hard to counter. Though, once I figured out stealth rocks, that was a game changer. Stealth rocks are so crucial for this battle. Breaks crobats sash too. Nice job getting the win! You can get eviolite by talking to the breeder in the Pokémon center of blizzard city, you just have to show them a Pokémon that can still evolve.
It is indeed hard as hell. I used minior and i used a stalling strat with gliscor and we both ran out of pp. But i won the struggle battle. 4th gym leader is a inverse Battle. And i would also give a suggestion of catching a ton og pokemon and use some of the best.i dont play insane now cuz i am bored but i have played it like 5-6times on insane and expert. But if u want any tip feel free to ask
Nice! I’m surprised he didn’t switch out. Were you able to get toxic heal gliscor? I have been catching a ton of Pokémon, it’s good to have options when you have to team build specifically for every boss battle.
Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of Pokémon’s moves have been delayed in the most recent patch of the game. This video was made on an older version, so luckily some very useful moves were available earlier on when I battled Alice. Even with access to Aqua Tail, I still say Alice is one of the hardest battles in the entire game!
@@ichijou_kun8263 I’m actually a huge fan of unbound insane mode making the game even HARDER by limiting/delaying moves. But try not to get discouraged, you got this bro! The hardest battles are always the funnest.
Just did it with after 7 trial with: Tarkoal-For taking out skarmory's stealth rock and chipping out huge portion of skarmory's hp also securing with burn. Minior- taking gliscors initial poison and making it pointless cause of ability shield off, and setting up stealth rock. Ribombee- taking gliscors rock slide and will make the ai switch with crobat. Then the pollen spore during switch, will slow crobat but in return will take out ribombee. Gardevoir- Has one job. To one shot, slowed crobat. Then, back to gliscor. Instead of aquatail azumarill, I used razor shell dewott with held antipoison berry. Then will take about 5 razor shells, 2 toxic and 2 protects to end gliscor. Then the Donph-chad, He will tank dodrio in steroids. Then use charm to lower his attack. Ancient power from minior and the recoil from dodrios attack will kill itself. Donchad will be left with few hp to tank 1 more of pinsirs attack and charm him 1 time. Then tarkoal will end pinsir. The remaining of her few pokemon will die to stealth rock. The end
@@ichijou_kun8263 hey congrats! Only 7 attempts is really good, it took me like 50+ haha. Don-Chad really is great for early to mid game. Also Torkoal is great for this battle though I didn’t use it myself, I’ve seen a lot of others using it. Ribombee is great for early game too. Minior has a great typing and great choice for this battle as well. Once I figured out to set up stealth rocks it was a total game changer for this battle. Definitely a must-have.
If you think that Alice was hard wait for the rest of the game. I had the feeling that a fight was the hardest basically every time before I faced the next one. And defeating Aklove in RoV post game on insane truly is something else, that took me like two weeks with around 100 tries to figure out a strat without using legendaries.
That’s what everyone’s been saying, and I agree that every battle feels like it’s the hardest. I can’t imagine anything being harder than Alice but I’m looking forward to finding out lol. I have kind of been regretting not doing sandbox mode, but it’s good to know there are challenging battles in the post-game that will make non sandbox mode worth it!
Agreed, he just outspeeds everything and one shots with insane move coverage. Can’t even avoid facade/feint because his ability hits ghost types. However once I smartened up and started using stealth rocks, it was somewhat manageable. Crobat was the second hardest imo. One nasty plot is all it takes for it to run through your team. Just like Pinsir, has insane coverage. Hardest battle of all time.
imo this fight gets 100% easier if you bring torkoal. Has access to Rapid Spin, and Lava plume to shit on skarm easily, not to mention amazing bulk. Imo, 2.0 alice felt easier because of me using torkoal, and Big Mo is defo the current hardest gym leader.
I wish I had known to bring Torkoal, it would’ve probably been a better replacement for numel, similar bulk as eviolite numel while being a harder hitting lava plume user. Donphan could’ve also been replaced as designated rapid spin user. I’ve never played the original Unbound, so I’m playing 2.0 blind with nothing to compare it to. Alice has been the hardest battle yet, by far, but I have also heard from others that Big Mo is arguably harder! Everyone usually says either Alice or Big Mo.
And I'm over here, barely beating things in Difficult, probably because I got not strat and go in just knowing super effective and damaging moves, rn struggling against Jax in the champion battle, halp
Insane mode definitely takes a lot of strategizing and readjusting! It’s also about having like 20-30 viable battle ready Pokémon in the PC ready to swap in at any time depending on the opponent. Insane mode is impossible to beat with just 6 Pokémon lol. But I do have a video for Jax, not sure if his insane team is the same, but could be helpful still!
@@VersacePokemon Completely agree! Thanks for the recommendation, I'll be sure to check it out, and YES! First time ever in a playthrough of pokemon that I ever needed to use more than a single pokemon to do the job (Other than my six predetermined so to speak), honestly, it's crazy, considering Elite Four is a battle where you can't swap out pokemon to have an advantage and still have to adapt with the pokemon you have in range, I'm not used to so many held items, Focus sashes and perfect EV's on boss pokemon combined with annoying strategies or sheer luck. Props to Benjamin for being the easiest in the game, Difficult or not 😂
@@thycorrupted the elite 4 truly is a challenge, every single party member needs to have a job to do and be able to handle different threats from FIVE different, insanely hard trainers. Not to mention under specific battle conditions. I love playing through unbound, I wish I could erase my memory and do it again lol. I agree Benjamin was the easiest gym leader, however I think his gym gimmick is one of the coolest!
I’ve been trying and she keeps kicking my butt. Every one of my pokemon get ko’d in 1-2 hits and I feel like I do no damage. Which sucks cause I just spent like 2 hours training a spheal to level 32.
I had the same issue with this fight. Try switching your team around, also try EV training your mons in defense. All of Alice’s pokemon are physical attackers except Crobat. It’ll help you be able to tank some more hits.
@ yeah. I’m not on the hardest difficulty so even the Crobat is a physical attacker. I went and got myself a Gigalith and EV trained it in defense and attack and tossed out a stealth rock. Tore through her team with it and Curse Numel with Eviolite
I’m playing through Expert right now, and Alice is still by far the hardest fight so far. She took a good 12-15 attempts to win, and by the time I beat her, the battles had the same first 4 turns and then after that I just had to get lucky. Gliscor with Hyper Cutter over Poison Heal actually was quite hard to deal with because my strategy was going to be to go in and Intimidate it, but that didn’t work. Permanent Tailwind with EV Speed investment is pretty crazy for the 3rd gym, the only other game I know that does that is Radical Red Hardcore mode, but that’s its 6th gym at least
A lot of times these battles will have the exact same first few turns, but after that there’s an element of variability that I think is a great example of how well designed the AI is. If the opponent always reacts the same, you can just create a linear flow chart of “when he does this, I do that” until you solve the puzzle. With the element of randomness after those first few turns, you have to branch off into like 3 possible outcomes, and then another 3 possible outcomes for each of those. Makes the game harder without the AI actually cheating (reacting to what move you click after you click it, which some hacks do) I’ve beaten 5 gyms at this point and still say Alice is the hardest battle in the game by far (for insane at least, I haven’t played the other difficulties) maybe I’ve gotten more acclimated to the games difficulty and have more/better Pokémon now, but I think that is part of what makes Alice so hard, is the lack of available options of Pokémon, moves, and items you have access to at the point in the game.
@@VersacePokemon Yeah, I’m not even sure if you can get a Gliscor, or Gligar even, by the time you get to her. Mega Pinsir obviously is not available either
toucanon was quite useful against her mega pinsir. i used beak blast for the purpose of getting her pinsir burned thus lowering its attack and wearing away its health. but my toucanon also managed to tank a hit and did heavy damage on the attack as well. and alolan sandslash is good against her gliscor.
@@rishabhanand4973 solid strats! Though I didn’t use Toucannon myself, it seems like a solid Mega pinsir counter here. Skill link is an insane ability too. The level cap being 32 has a huge influence on what mons are viable, and still being early game as well, it’s tough to find good mons that will be fully evolved by this point.
@@VersacePokemon although i realize now i got super lucky with that. cuz if pinsir has facade, burning it can be quite dangerous. Oh wait, just looked it up. In expert mode pinsir doesn't have facade but in insane mode, it does. so yeah, my strategy is fine for expert but not on insane.
Nope, I didn’t change emulators (I use mGBA) This is called a shader which is basically a filter/graphics enhancer. Shaders are downloadable for free online, but mGBA comes preinstalled with a bunch of shaders to choose from if you want to use one. Easy to turn on/off, makes the graphics look better imo!
@@VersacePokemon Oh awesome thanks for the info! Is the shader you're using standalone? I don't think the ones within mgba are the same (I'm currently running mGBA too for my playthrough).
@@mark-anthonymartinez4153 the shader I’m using is called xBR-lv3, you should have it if your using mGBA. Go to tools, settings, shaders, load new shader, and it should be available in those files. Hope this helps!
I got a swoobat and with amnesia and a physical defense boosting move I forgot with synchronoise and stored power. I then used a Gilgar to wall the gliscor, and with a high pp move I ppstalled it. Then when it was nearly out of pp, I started clicking knock off. It guaranteed goes into dodrio and without the cband they brave bird and I counter. The rest is easy cleanup
Did your swoobat also have the simple ability? If so, that’s an insane combination! Gligar is a great wall/stall for Gliscor, and knocking off the choiceband Dodrio is really smart. Good stuff!
On insane mode, this gym has a field effect that acts as a permanent tail wind, as well as protecting flying type Pokémon from taking super effective damage. Therefore, the best strategy is to try to exploit their secondary typings (ex. Using lava plume is super effective against skarmory’s steel type) Insane difficulty is a whole other beast!
Just defeated her on Insane Difficulty with no Sandbox and no New Game+, but boy, this is quite possibly the hardest battle I have ever fought so far! I remember defeating her on Insane Difficulty a lot of times before, but those were mostly Sandbox Mode or New Game+. In the absence of Sandbox and/or mons or items from NG+, this battle was absolute hell. I bringed Torkoal, Gigalith, Comfey, Donphan, Quacker the Swanna, and Murkrow with me, and in the end only Gigalith with very, very low health was alive. In general Gliscor and Crobat are the two mons that are very hard to stop; Gliscor just stalls you with Toxic Orb / Poison Heal and Protect while taking very low damage from any move, while Crobat with Nasty Plot is extremely dangerous once you let it set up for too long. Torkoal defeated Skarmory and brushed the Stealth Rock away, then Gigalith set up our own Stealth Rock, and from that point on the warstory is a bit hazy on my end. I bringed Swanna to combat Gliscor, but it was quite tough to take down. Comfey, Donphan, and Gigalith came in clutch, but it was Gigalith who was simply the MVP of this fight. It withstood almost every single physical blow, set up Stealth Rock, and took out Crobat. One incredible fight, and you did it masterfully. Thanks for your videos!
Insane mode with no sandbox or new game+ is a different beast entirely. After beating the game, I’d still say this is easily in the top 3 hardest battles in the whole game. Torkoal is pretty good here. If I had to run this battle again, I’d definitely use one this time. Stealth rocks are also so crucial getting them up on the opponents side, total game changer. Thanks for sharing your strats! I always love hearing from others how you handled these difficult battles. There’s more than one way to win and everyone finds their own answers. That’s part of what makes these games so great. Congrats on the win! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!!
Stealth rocks made such a huge difference when I figured out it was smart to use them! Pinsir would have wiped me at the end there for sure if not for them. Oh boy, I wasn’t keeping track, but if I had to guess… probably around 50 or so. Definitely the most attempts needed of any battle I’ve ever done before. Lots of strategizing, grinding, and rage involved lol
The entire rest of the game is easy compared to Alice. The only other hard challenge is Big Mo. Still discouraging to play Insane mode because of Alice and Alice alone.
Tbh this is what I suspected, but you’re the first person to actually say it. Everyone else has said it gets much harder, but I actually can’t imagine anything harder than this. This battle is the pinnacle of Pokémon difficulty without being actually impossible. Looking forward to Big Mo!
@@Averagenahhhh if he’s playing challenger he can’t use potions, but feather dance is a good strat considering brawly most likely has all physical attackers
@@VersacePokemon 100%. 90 percent of Players are Just RR Players that looked for another CFRU hack. (CRFU btw was by the Same creator that Made Unbound)
Hope you guys enjoyed this one! Anyone else playing Unbound Insane? Let me know how you fared against Alice, and what mons/strats you used!
If i may ask how did u get mawile?
@@knox9739 you can get Mawile in Icicle Cave! A great Pokémon to catch early game.
A year late into the game but... I did a very weird strat of using skill swap dusclops with eviolite against gliscor xD
@@demonictrinity6834 let it toxic you and steal its poison heal, nice. Bulky Dusclops with eviolite and poison heal is insane. Love creative strats like that.
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Genuinely finding your tactics incredibly inspiring, was having a lot of problems with Expert Post Game Aklove, so I was curious and looked up what strategies others were using and was pointed to your Insane Version of the fight, truly pretty inspiring.
This was another great battle, and I look forward to trying to take some of the lessons you pointed out and apply them to my own Expert Battle.
Thank you friend! I appreciate the support and I’m glad you’ve found the videos helpful!
I’m also interested in seeing how other people handle these difficult battles, and showing the answers/tactics I’ve found in the case that it can be helpful or entertaining to others. That’s one of the best parts of Pokémon, is that there’s multiple ways to accomplish the same goal.
I know that insane mode might not translate perfectly to expert, but hopefully it can be helpful at least somewhat!
This is the next gym for me and I'm terrified. This battle makes you utilize something I most people don't really do: take advantage of their secondary type.
This is the hardest battle in the entire game imo! You definitely have to exploit her pokemon’s secondary typings, and stealth rocks are pretty useful as well.
Let me know if you’re stuck and need some advice!
@@VersacePokemon I won. It took me like 10 tries. My winning move was burning gliscor
@@VersacePokemon DAWG IM STUCK ASF AND IM A FUCKING POKÉMON VET ITS NOT EVEN INSANE DIFFICULTY 😭😭I NEED HELP ITS HARDCORE MODE
Most helpful take on this battle I've seen so far, thanks alot bro, take a sub! 👍
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with the battle and thanks for the support!
I finished that game this week and let me tell you I had so much fun, there was a lot to do during the story even before the first 3 gyms. There is so much to do postgame as well props to the guys who developed that game 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed your playthrough! The main developer goes by Skeli. Him and the team did quite an incredible job on this game, it’s probably my favorite rom hack of all time.
bruh im telling you that pinsir was a pain. it was ohkoing my azumarill with FEINT . Even at -1 attack that thing is so broken I did catch minior but i dint use it for stealth rocks though. Then was the crobat who easily set up using its focus sash and ripped my team . The most broken thins is pinsir's moveset feint storm throw(which always crits and ohko my max defense lairon) eq and some bug move. I gave up . But then after watchin ur video i just used one turn to set up stealth rocks and i won. No sash crobat and NO BROKEN PINSIR. It really takes a genius mind to come up with strats to beat this ridiculously hard game
btw where did u get the eviolite
Yeah, that Pinsir is unreal. Fantastic move coverage and also has facade which due to his ability, still hits ghost types, so he’s hard to counter. Though, once I figured out stealth rocks, that was a game changer. Stealth rocks are so crucial for this battle. Breaks crobats sash too.
Nice job getting the win! You can get eviolite by talking to the breeder in the Pokémon center of blizzard city, you just have to show them a Pokémon that can still evolve.
Weird question but how much speed EVs does her Skarmory have
Wow really nice strategy and one question did minor learn stealth rock on level 24 you tm it ?
Thanks! Minior learns stealth rocks at level 26! No need for tm. Hope this helps!
It is indeed hard as hell. I used minior and i used a stalling strat with gliscor and we both ran out of pp. But i won the struggle battle. 4th gym leader is a inverse Battle. And i would also give a suggestion of catching a ton og pokemon and use some of the best.i dont play insane now cuz i am bored but i have played it like 5-6times on insane and expert. But if u want any tip feel free to ask
Nice! I’m surprised he didn’t switch out. Were you able to get toxic heal gliscor?
I have been catching a ton of Pokémon, it’s good to have options when you have to team build specifically for every boss battle.
Azumarill doesn't learn aqua tail in unbound ai until lvl 47😢
Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of Pokémon’s moves have been delayed in the most recent patch of the game. This video was made on an older version, so luckily some very useful moves were available earlier on when I battled Alice.
Even with access to Aqua Tail, I still say Alice is one of the hardest battles in the entire game!
@@VersacePokemon bummer😔
I need that aqua tail to shlap that mf flying tank
@@ichijou_kun8263 I’m actually a huge fan of unbound insane mode making the game even HARDER by limiting/delaying moves. But try not to get discouraged, you got this bro! The hardest battles are always the funnest.
Just did it with after 7 trial with:
Tarkoal-For taking out skarmory's stealth rock and chipping out huge portion of skarmory's hp also securing with burn.
Minior- taking gliscors initial poison and making it pointless cause of ability shield off, and setting up stealth rock.
Ribombee- taking gliscors rock slide and will make the ai switch with crobat. Then the pollen spore during switch, will slow crobat but in return will take out ribombee.
Gardevoir- Has one job. To one shot, slowed crobat.
Then, back to gliscor.
Instead of aquatail azumarill, I used razor shell dewott with held antipoison berry. Then will take about 5 razor shells, 2 toxic and 2 protects to end gliscor.
Then the Donph-chad, He will tank dodrio in steroids. Then use charm to lower his attack. Ancient power from minior and the recoil from dodrios attack will kill itself.
Donchad will be left with few hp to tank 1 more of pinsirs attack and charm him 1 time.
Then tarkoal will end pinsir.
The remaining of her few pokemon will die to stealth rock. The end
@@ichijou_kun8263 hey congrats! Only 7 attempts is really good, it took me like 50+ haha.
Don-Chad really is great for early to mid game. Also Torkoal is great for this battle though I didn’t use it myself, I’ve seen a lot of others using it. Ribombee is great for early game too. Minior has a great typing and great choice for this battle as well.
Once I figured out to set up stealth rocks it was a total game changer for this battle. Definitely a must-have.
If you think that Alice was hard wait for the rest of the game. I had the feeling that a fight was the hardest basically every time before I faced the next one. And defeating Aklove in RoV post game on insane truly is something else, that took me like two weeks with around 100 tries to figure out a strat without using legendaries.
That’s what everyone’s been saying, and I agree that every battle feels like it’s the hardest. I can’t imagine anything being harder than Alice but I’m looking forward to finding out lol.
I have kind of been regretting not doing sandbox mode, but it’s good to know there are challenging battles in the post-game that will make non sandbox mode worth it!
Oh dear I’m at this battle and after watching it’s looks like my hardest fight yet
Definitely one of the hardest battles in the game!
Pinsir was such a pain to deal with
Agreed, he just outspeeds everything and one shots with insane move coverage. Can’t even avoid facade/feint because his ability hits ghost types. However once I smartened up and started using stealth rocks, it was somewhat manageable.
Crobat was the second hardest imo. One nasty plot is all it takes for it to run through your team. Just like Pinsir, has insane coverage. Hardest battle of all time.
Three words: Brave Bird Crobat
RELLY LOVE YOUR COMENRTY, I ALSO UNDERSTAND EASY THANKS, ARE YOU PLAYING IN PC OR IN MOBILE?
Thanks! I currently play Unbound on PC
@@VersacePokemon OK THANKS BRO, PLS MAKE GIUDS QUNIK ANTHOR WISE I WILL LOSE EVERY SINGLE. BOSS BATLLS AND GYM BATLLS. YOUR GIUDS ARE " ASOME"
@@VersacePokemon YES THIS MEGA PINSER ALWAS MAKES PROBLEM, BUT BEAT WITH A TAILWIND CORBAT AND RNG LUCKS HEE
@@midlandtradingfze6462 I’m glad you found this helpful, more Unbound videos coming soon! Feel free to copy my strats if you are having trouble
@@VersacePokemon OK BRO THANKS BRO
imo this fight gets 100% easier if you bring torkoal. Has access to Rapid Spin, and Lava plume to shit on skarm easily, not to mention amazing bulk. Imo, 2.0 alice felt easier because of me using torkoal, and Big Mo is defo the current hardest gym leader.
I wish I had known to bring Torkoal, it would’ve probably been a better replacement for numel, similar bulk as eviolite numel while being a harder hitting lava plume user. Donphan could’ve also been replaced as designated rapid spin user.
I’ve never played the original Unbound, so I’m playing 2.0 blind with nothing to compare it to. Alice has been the hardest battle yet, by far, but I have also heard from others that Big Mo is arguably harder! Everyone usually says either Alice or Big Mo.
Big Mo was the hardest for me too.
@@rayssasantos2877 after fighting both, I’d say Big Mo was a close second for me. Definitely both top tier though
i was trying to get mawhile in the sandslash cave but i still haven't gotten a encounter even with sweet scent
And I'm over here, barely beating things in Difficult, probably because I got not strat and go in just knowing super effective and damaging moves, rn struggling against Jax in the champion battle, halp
Insane mode definitely takes a lot of strategizing and readjusting! It’s also about having like 20-30 viable battle ready Pokémon in the PC ready to swap in at any time depending on the opponent. Insane mode is impossible to beat with just 6 Pokémon lol.
But I do have a video for Jax, not sure if his insane team is the same, but could be helpful still!
@@VersacePokemon Completely agree! Thanks for the recommendation, I'll be sure to check it out, and YES! First time ever in a playthrough of pokemon that I ever needed to use more than a single pokemon to do the job (Other than my six predetermined so to speak), honestly, it's crazy, considering Elite Four is a battle where you can't swap out pokemon to have an advantage and still have to adapt with the pokemon you have in range, I'm not used to so many held items, Focus sashes and perfect EV's on boss pokemon combined with annoying strategies or sheer luck. Props to Benjamin for being the easiest in the game, Difficult or not 😂
@@thycorrupted the elite 4 truly is a challenge, every single party member needs to have a job to do and be able to handle different threats from FIVE different, insanely hard trainers. Not to mention under specific battle conditions. I love playing through unbound, I wish I could erase my memory and do it again lol.
I agree Benjamin was the easiest gym leader, however I think his gym gimmick is one of the coolest!
I’ve been trying and she keeps kicking my butt. Every one of my pokemon get ko’d in 1-2 hits and I feel like I do no damage. Which sucks cause I just spent like 2 hours training a spheal to level 32.
I had the same issue with this fight. Try switching your team around, also try EV training your mons in defense. All of Alice’s pokemon are physical attackers except Crobat. It’ll help you be able to tank some more hits.
@ yeah. I’m not on the hardest difficulty so even the Crobat is a physical attacker. I went and got myself a Gigalith and EV trained it in defense and attack and tossed out a stealth rock. Tore through her team with it and Curse Numel with Eviolite
@@VangolaGear nice! Stealth rocks was crucial for me too, dealing 4x damage to her mega Pinsir. Eviolite Numel with Simple and curse works great too!
Your videos are good but please lower the intake music so we can hear your commentary better! :)
I’ll try adjusting the audio in the future, thanks for the feedback!
I’m playing through Expert right now, and Alice is still by far the hardest fight so far. She took a good 12-15 attempts to win, and by the time I beat her, the battles had the same first 4 turns and then after that I just had to get lucky. Gliscor with Hyper Cutter over Poison Heal actually was quite hard to deal with because my strategy was going to be to go in and Intimidate it, but that didn’t work. Permanent Tailwind with EV Speed investment is pretty crazy for the 3rd gym, the only other game I know that does that is Radical Red Hardcore mode, but that’s its 6th gym at least
A lot of times these battles will have the exact same first few turns, but after that there’s an element of variability that I think is a great example of how well designed the AI is. If the opponent always reacts the same, you can just create a linear flow chart of “when he does this, I do that” until you solve the puzzle. With the element of randomness after those first few turns, you have to branch off into like 3 possible outcomes, and then another 3 possible outcomes for each of those. Makes the game harder without the AI actually cheating (reacting to what move you click after you click it, which some hacks do)
I’ve beaten 5 gyms at this point and still say Alice is the hardest battle in the game by far (for insane at least, I haven’t played the other difficulties) maybe I’ve gotten more acclimated to the games difficulty and have more/better Pokémon now, but I think that is part of what makes Alice so hard, is the lack of available options of Pokémon, moves, and items you have access to at the point in the game.
@@VersacePokemon Yeah, I’m not even sure if you can get a Gliscor, or Gligar even, by the time you get to her. Mega Pinsir obviously is not available either
toucanon was quite useful against her mega pinsir. i used beak blast for the purpose of getting her pinsir burned thus lowering its attack and wearing away its health. but my toucanon also managed to tank a hit and did heavy damage on the attack as well. and alolan sandslash is good against her gliscor.
@@rishabhanand4973 solid strats! Though I didn’t use Toucannon myself, it seems like a solid Mega pinsir counter here. Skill link is an insane ability too.
The level cap being 32 has a huge influence on what mons are viable, and still being early game as well, it’s tough to find good mons that will be fully evolved by this point.
@@VersacePokemon although i realize now i got super lucky with that. cuz if pinsir has facade, burning it can be quite dangerous. Oh wait, just looked it up. In expert mode pinsir doesn't have facade but in insane mode, it does. so yeah, my strategy is fine for expert but not on insane.
I noticed the sprite work changed here compared to earlier videos - did you switch emulators to get this?
Nope, I didn’t change emulators (I use mGBA)
This is called a shader which is basically a filter/graphics enhancer. Shaders are downloadable for free online, but mGBA comes preinstalled with a bunch of shaders to choose from if you want to use one. Easy to turn on/off, makes the graphics look better imo!
@@VersacePokemon Oh awesome thanks for the info! Is the shader you're using standalone? I don't think the ones within mgba are the same (I'm currently running mGBA too for my playthrough).
@@mark-anthonymartinez4153 the shader I’m using is called xBR-lv3, you should have it if your using mGBA. Go to tools, settings, shaders, load new shader, and it should be available in those files. Hope this helps!
I got a swoobat and with amnesia and a physical defense boosting move I forgot with synchronoise and stored power. I then used a Gilgar to wall the gliscor, and with a high pp move I ppstalled it. Then when it was nearly out of pp, I started clicking knock off. It guaranteed goes into dodrio and without the cband they brave bird and I counter. The rest is easy cleanup
Did your swoobat also have the simple ability? If so, that’s an insane combination! Gligar is a great wall/stall for Gliscor, and knocking off the choiceband Dodrio is really smart. Good stuff!
@@VersacePokemon yep! It also happened to be a full odds shiny so if it was meant to be
Why you didn't use electric types on those birds? I defeated that gym with the help of ampharos and manectric
On insane mode, this gym has a field effect that acts as a permanent tail wind, as well as protecting flying type Pokémon from taking super effective damage.
Therefore, the best strategy is to try to exploit their secondary typings (ex. Using lava plume is super effective against skarmory’s steel type)
Insane difficulty is a whole other beast!
where i can get the eviolite?
Talk to the Pokémon breeder in the Pokémon center in Blizzard City and show them a Pokémon that hasn’t evolved yet
Just defeated her on Insane Difficulty with no Sandbox and no New Game+, but boy, this is quite possibly the hardest battle I have ever fought so far!
I remember defeating her on Insane Difficulty a lot of times before, but those were mostly Sandbox Mode or New Game+. In the absence of Sandbox and/or mons or items from NG+, this battle was absolute hell.
I bringed Torkoal, Gigalith, Comfey, Donphan, Quacker the Swanna, and Murkrow with me, and in the end only Gigalith with very, very low health was alive. In general Gliscor and Crobat are the two mons that are very hard to stop; Gliscor just stalls you with Toxic Orb / Poison Heal and Protect while taking very low damage from any move, while Crobat with Nasty Plot is extremely dangerous once you let it set up for too long.
Torkoal defeated Skarmory and brushed the Stealth Rock away, then Gigalith set up our own Stealth Rock, and from that point on the warstory is a bit hazy on my end. I bringed Swanna to combat Gliscor, but it was quite tough to take down. Comfey, Donphan, and Gigalith came in clutch, but it was Gigalith who was simply the MVP of this fight. It withstood almost every single physical blow, set up Stealth Rock, and took out Crobat.
One incredible fight, and you did it masterfully. Thanks for your videos!
Insane mode with no sandbox or new game+ is a different beast entirely. After beating the game, I’d still say this is easily in the top 3 hardest battles in the whole game.
Torkoal is pretty good here. If I had to run this battle again, I’d definitely use one this time. Stealth rocks are also so crucial getting them up on the opponents side, total game changer.
Thanks for sharing your strats! I always love hearing from others how you handled these difficult battles. There’s more than one way to win and everyone finds their own answers. That’s part of what makes these games so great. Congrats on the win!
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!!
My brozong with Iron defense sweeped her with psywave lol
7:47 I’m pretty sure steel doesn’t resist dark anymore ever since gen 6
You are right, I misspoke. Mawile only 2x resists dark because of its fairy typing.
I'm here because this is IMPOSSIBLE for me.
One of the hardest battles in the game for sure, hope this video helps!!
Those stealth rocks came up so clutch ! how many attempts did this take you ?
Stealth rocks made such a huge difference when I figured out it was smart to use them! Pinsir would have wiped me at the end there for sure if not for them.
Oh boy, I wasn’t keeping track, but if I had to guess… probably around 50 or so. Definitely the most attempts needed of any battle I’ve ever done before. Lots of strategizing, grinding, and rage involved lol
This gym is just stupid. They put Mega Rayquaza's Delta Stream and Tailwind up on top of having Mega Pinsir
That feature is just for Insane, but it does make this gym obnoxiously hard. That’s what we signed up for when we chose to play on insane!
I can already see it being paradise for my mono flying team
Edit it was
What a battle though holy shit
Hardest battle in the game imo!
The entire rest of the game is easy compared to Alice. The only other hard challenge is Big Mo. Still discouraging to play Insane mode because of Alice and Alice alone.
Tbh this is what I suspected, but you’re the first person to actually say it. Everyone else has said it gets much harder, but I actually can’t imagine anything harder than this. This battle is the pinnacle of Pokémon difficulty without being actually impossible. Looking forward to Big Mo!
I got 2 extra teams (12 max leveled pokemon) to defeat her on hard, and you tell me insane is even harder? Damn...
Making entire new teams and figuring out how to win a hard battle is all part of the fun!
Agreed This Gym give me a hard time and bruh moment my save file on Pokemon league have been erased so I have to start all over again :,-)
That’s a bad hit, did you save state at all?
Just play onix and stealth rock and spam curse 3 times he will beat her solo
Bruh I can't defeat Brawly in Pokemon inclement emerald💢💢
Try catching a ghastly/ haunter in the grassy area south west of dewford! Mawile is probably good for that fight too
I use flying type and the 2nd gym was ez as cheese
I used Feather dance and air cutter move sweep and 10 super potions used
@@Averagenahhhh if he’s playing challenger he can’t use potions, but feather dance is a good strat considering brawly most likely has all physical attackers
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Thanks for watching!
The hardest you have ever faced? Oh, You'll have fun with what Solace Wil Throw at you after this😉
I’m looking forward to it, this game does not disappoint!
@@VersacePokemon Its the best Romhack Out there, atm
@@tedstrange4486yeah, it definitely doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
@@VersacePokemon 100%. 90 percent of Players are Just RR Players that looked for another CFRU hack. (CRFU btw was by the Same creator that Made Unbound)
I deafeted him with only godbro
This is so freaking hard lol
I can’t help but to say that some of her pokemon doesn’t match her personality, that’s my opinion.
Agreed, she has Pokemon that would be on an evil boss team!
Bro, you call this difficult? Play Pokemon Omicron and Insurgence