As an aviation enthusiast I’ve been known to not only identify a type by its noise, but also the individual airframe. It’s a skill that impresses nobody.
As an aviation enthusiast, I've learned to distinguish between most of the different ACs overhead. Show me any combat aircraft from the last 80 years and I'll probably recognise it (without War thunder) and tell a story about it. It's a skill that impresses only a few. In contrast, I really don't care about anybody's car.
My great uncle was a coast watcher on the Oregon coast during WW II. He still had a couple of posters of Japanese bomber silhouettes on the walls when I was a kid.
All this is completely unnessecary, at least if you live in late- war Germany. Here is how they went about it: If it's green or comes during the night, it's British. If it is silver or comes during the day, that's the Americans. And if it is invisible or completely undetectable by any means, that's the mighty Luftwaffe! I don't even know who to credit for this, I think it is an original german Flüsterwitz (whisper joke).
Didn't the British suspend night attacks, because these had terrible accuracy? I might need to read up on that. In any case, making fun of the early bad RAF night capabilities, sounds like a thing that might have persisted throughout the war.
i heard a similar thing growing up : if you hear and see planes during the day -its the yanks. if they're coming at night, its the RAF if you don't see or hear anything at all, it's the Luftwaffe! 😜😂
I just wanted to say I love your videos. Your ability to find an niche subject, thoroughly research it, and present it in a fun an interesting way is excellent. Your passion for history really shines!
I have a set of playing cards that have aircraft shapes on them for training. I also recently went to a former gun battery that had all the sea and air identifying charts, it was the Leighton battery for those interested.
Aircraft recognition competitions when I did them in the 1980's. 10 aircraft exposers at 1 second. 10 at 1/2 second, 10 at 1/4 second. 3 points for identifying the basic type. A bonus point for identifying the Mark / Version. Was good enough to make the final of the UK national Aircraft recognition competition in 1983, but joined the RAF three days before the event so couldn't attend. For the "Air Britain" competition, any aircraft that had flown in the UK since 1908 could be in the competition, plus any aircraft build in the USA or USSR.
As an East End kid I’ve played on that same ‘beach’ shown at the very beginning. It’s just below the Tower of London. However not long after the film was made it was closed because it was absolutely filthy because of pollution
I recognize this clip from the 1969 movie "Battle of Britain", which has quite the cast, including Michael Caine, Christopher Plumer, Robert Shaw, et al. A good movie, with high production values, only one pointless scene (Susanna York & Plumer in bed), but a somewhat confusing ending if you don't already know how the battle sort of faded into The Blitz. Great, great footage of flying examples of Spits & Harris.
Growing up, I remember my brother had a set of "flash cards" (weren't sold as such, more of a toy of a young air fan) of cold war fighters and bombers. Such were the late years of the Cold War.
I served with the Royal Observer Corps until its stand down in 1992. Post-war the Corps took on a nuclear war reporting role & a backup meteorological role. Most of the personnel were spare time, with a cadre of full-time staff. RAF uniform & rank was still used, with some changes. During D-Day 796 Observers were stationed on board ships for aircraft spotting & identification duties. They temporarily became part of the Royal Navy. They could wear a 'Seaborne' shoulder flash post-war. At a training event in about 1990, I saw one 'Seaborne' flash on a uniform - I didn't have the confidence to talk to them about it. I wish I had!
One of the coolest things I've seen was a set of playing cards for poker and whatnot at the Dayton Ohio air museum, that had aircraft silhouettes and names on them, because I'd never thought about that sort of stuff before. Seeing a set of cards that were used by actual people brought home how real those events were, definitely want to go again when I get the chance.
Yes! I recognized the *Hellcat* because one of my favorite video games for the Macintosh was *“Hellcats over the Pacific”!* 😂 edit: also the Buffalo (thank you Wikipedia wormhole!)
My dad was a boomer who moved to candada from englund. His childhood comics all included sections on learning the silhouettes of german planes. Lots of racism too.
Royal Observer Corp post 1941.... before then they were just Observer Corp, formed part of the Police force, hence the use of Duty Arm band before being take over by the Air Minister.
Serving in the military during the Cold War ,I was trained in rapid ID of Warsaw Pact aircraft. Everything from Mig fighters to the big Tupolev "Bear" and everything in between. They tested us on images of the plane from different angles and you had a half-second peek. Yeah, forgive my brag, I scored full marks. 😆 As a result, I can still tell a Flogger from a Foxbat and a Bear from a Badger - but I haven't kept up with anything post 1990.
This was really fun, but I only could identify the Storch, the Giant and the Mosquito 😅 I'm so rusty, when I was a kid I knew all those airplanes! I had a great time watching this, thanks for sharing!
Another fascinating video👍and congratulations on the subscribers award! Just one point- it’s probably just my ocd tendencies- but having it displayed over your left shoulder throws the balance of the shot off and looks a bit wonky since it’s silver. One cubby over either way would be visually pleasing. IMHO 😎 love your work!
I live on L. Erie and in the flight path of Hamilton airport so every summer I see them fly over, I too hear them before seeing them. If not mistaken,m its when they come back from the US on the way to Hamilton and Toronto . Sometimes they fly over us turning to go back to Hamilton, nice sight but id rather see other aircraft, we arent as spoiled as Europe.
I recall reading about the ‘Renshaw Method’ in an old Robert Heinlein novel. It was presented as this amazing system for greatly expanding a person’s ability to take in and process information.
18:37 I have a copy of the book on the far left, 1972 edition. Got it from my dad years ago. I consider myself a huge aviation enthusiast, but I did terrible on those recognition tests.
Thank you, very interesting and informative, I remember the cover of an old Popular Science magazine showing a huge set of acoustic "ears" steerable to hone in on aircraft based on their engine sound
so at the 1st quiz i managed to identify the hurricane as a Ki-61. and i feel stupid doing so another i failed was the gotha. partly cause i never heard of it so i thought it was the boxcar i coudlnt remember the name of the Ju 290. but recognized it as said german heavy bomber and somehow identified the BV 222 for the 238. silly me. my confidence shattered at the B5N Kate as i identified it as the Texan trainer. but everything else i managed to be spot on.
its interesting hearing about how they evolved their approach to IDing aircraft, especially as someone who plays a lot of combat flight simulators. i started with just the three view silhouettes, but it didnt work too well, then i was taught by someone about some of the specific features you could pick out from a distance to help narrow down what you're looking at. i also have the allies and axis three view pages up on my wall, they're next to an angle-off chart for aerial gunnery. 17:19 -- i actually got this one pretty quick. the two-engined plane on the left has a stubbier nose, which makes it look like a mosquito or HS 129, while the one on the right looked to me like a JU88 or HE111, with no similar allied aircraft i know of looking like that. Do you have any resources on where to get reproduction allied spotting manuals? it's something i'd like to have my hands on from a practical standpoint of being better-able to ID random WWII aircraft i see
14 out of 20. 10 out of 23. i guess i did better with silhouettes. this was definitely a humbling experience. ive been into ww2 aircraft for decades, yet i didnt get some that were common or couldnt remember the names but at least got the manufacturer, or at least friend or foe.
Hello, Q; what is the fourth image showing the young ladies in front of instruments in the introduction. My Dad Michael was a young lad living in Farnham during the War and was trained to identify aircraft to assist the ARP, he also rode his bicycle caring messages to various Observers etc. I asked him " was he frightened " and he said for a young boy it was an exciting adventure, he never spoke of the bad moments in fact people didn't say much about that time and it wasn't the done thing to ask.
1/72 scale is just about Lego Minifig scale. I'm sure that's why they chose that scale. Thanks for the interesting video. I thought I was pretty good at aircraft recognition since I can tell the F-22 from the F-35. Apparently there more to it than I initially thought.
@@fonesrphunny7242 "a Minifig won't fit in any of your 48 aircraft cockpit" Yeah, minifigs are kind of an odd scale. Years ago (in 2008) I made a computer animation of a minifig walking. It was kind of hard for me to figure out how to get a figure with no knees, elbow, or ankles to make a semi-good walking style. There's a bad copy of the animation on my channel. The title is "Copy of LegoWalkBadCopy130305a" I wish we had minifigs when I was a kid. I loved building with Lego bricks but it was hard to find an appropriately sized figure to act as pilot of my various spaceships and airplanes.
Living where I do, it's always a handy skill to have. I can tell the Battle of Britain flight from the local general aviation types, and the interesting helicopters (army and RAF) from the boring ones (agency rental, that local guy that owns an R44, noisy rich twats). I can't tell twin-engined airliners apart; I don't want to seem racist, but they all look the same to me.
I thought the Bv-138 was a Catalina (didn't pay attention to the dorsal engine). Sorry folks but the convoy has been spotted and the wolfpack is waiting. My bad. That's why they used P-38s as fleet defense during the D-Day landings, the Germans didn't have any twin boom/single cockpit fighter planes so even a lousy eyeball like mine on an AA gun wouldn't try and shoot them down.
Could you please advise what the central insignia on the wings on your uniform is. It is a propeller with an odd crown over it. Dual wings are pilots in British and Commonwealth practice, with the force in letters (RAF, RCAF etc.) in the centre, with the King or Queen's crow above. That doesn't match!
Based on the ribbons below, that uniform belonged to a member with both World War 2 & Korea service. The member also had at least 22 years of service from the CD1 ribbon as well, the earliest which was issued in 1951. The crown is likely the Tudor crown. The member probably worn their original badge their entire career, and never updated to the version with the St. Edward’s crown. From my review, the Triple Propeller blades are for Flight Engineers.
21:10 Yeah, not how the Renshaw Method works but the Air Force didn't understand it either. The biggest problem with Flash Recognition (as it was also known) is that there were more ways to do it wrong than to do it right. The AF kept "improving" it until it didn't work anymore and then tried to justify through "analysis" why the fault was with the system. Renshaw taught the Navy Instructors to conduct a 30 hour Flash Recognition Course. The Army Air Force pushed a 10-15 hour program and then brought in psychologists to prove the fault wasn't with their execution. And for God's sake, it's pronounced TAH-KIST-TOE-SCOPE.
As an aviation enthusiast I’ve been known to not only identify a type by its noise, but also the individual airframe. It’s a skill that impresses nobody.
There is utility in virtually any knowledge. That's what life is about, my friend. Cheers.
I am impressed 👍 I failed in all quizes. Your photographic memory is amazing.
I'm a big fan of the first of those. As much as i lean towards art and visual stuff,the sounds seem to just work for me without effort
As an aviation enthusiast, I've learned to distinguish between most of the different ACs overhead. Show me any combat aircraft from the last 80 years and I'll probably recognise it (without War thunder) and tell a story about it.
It's a skill that impresses only a few. In contrast, I really don't care about anybody's car.
Agreed that low rumble sound on older planes , helps identify
My great uncle was a coast watcher on the Oregon coast during WW II. He still had a couple of posters of Japanese bomber silhouettes on the walls when I was a kid.
Better safe than sorry.
I am glad the aircraft models and manuals I provided helped make a great video. Well done =)
All this is completely unnessecary, at least if you live in late- war Germany.
Here is how they went about it:
If it's green or comes during the night, it's British.
If it is silver or comes during the day, that's the Americans.
And if it is invisible or completely undetectable by any means, that's the mighty Luftwaffe!
I don't even know who to credit for this, I think it is an original german Flüsterwitz (whisper joke).
Didn't the British suspend night attacks, because these had terrible accuracy? I might need to read up on that.
In any case, making fun of the early bad RAF night capabilities, sounds like a thing that might have persisted throughout the war.
i heard a similar thing growing up :
if you hear and see planes during the day -its the yanks.
if they're coming at night, its the RAF
if you don't see or hear anything at all, it's the Luftwaffe! 😜😂
I just wanted to say I love your videos. Your ability to find an niche subject, thoroughly research it, and present it in a fun an interesting way is excellent. Your passion for history really shines!
I have a set of playing cards that have aircraft shapes on them for training. I also recently went to a former gun battery that had all the sea and air identifying charts, it was the Leighton battery for those interested.
I also have a deck of cards like that. Is a repro of one they used to give troops.
Aircraft recognition competitions when I did them in the 1980's. 10 aircraft exposers at 1 second. 10 at 1/2 second, 10 at 1/4 second. 3 points for identifying the basic type. A bonus point for identifying the Mark / Version. Was good enough to make the final of the UK national Aircraft recognition competition in 1983, but joined the RAF three days before the event so couldn't attend.
For the "Air Britain" competition, any aircraft that had flown in the UK since 1908 could be in the competition, plus any aircraft build in the USA or USSR.
'Aircraft Recognition' you can tell the marketing people didn't get any role in that name (unless it was the Ronseal marketing department).
As an East End kid I’ve played on that same ‘beach’ shown at the very beginning. It’s just below the Tower of London. However not long after the film was made it was closed because it was absolutely filthy because of pollution
I recognize this clip from the 1969 movie "Battle of Britain", which has quite the cast, including Michael Caine, Christopher Plumer, Robert Shaw, et al. A good movie, with high production values, only one pointless scene (Susanna York & Plumer in bed), but a somewhat confusing ending if you don't already know how the battle sort of faded into The Blitz. Great, great footage of flying examples of Spits & Harris.
Growing up, I remember my brother had a set of "flash cards" (weren't sold as such, more of a toy of a young air fan) of cold war fighters and bombers. Such were the late years of the Cold War.
Wow! That had to be one of the most extensive & comprehensive videos you’ve done. Very impressive and entertaining.
I served with the Royal Observer Corps until its stand down in 1992. Post-war the Corps took on a nuclear war reporting role & a backup meteorological role. Most of the personnel were spare time, with a cadre of full-time staff. RAF uniform & rank was still used, with some changes.
During D-Day 796 Observers were stationed on board ships for aircraft spotting & identification duties. They temporarily became part of the Royal Navy. They could wear a 'Seaborne' shoulder flash post-war.
At a training event in about 1990, I saw one 'Seaborne' flash on a uniform - I didn't have the confidence to talk to them about it. I wish I had!
Yessssss finally first!!! Love these vids and thank you for being you and providing us this information in a way that makes it actually interesting!!!
One of the coolest things I've seen was a set of playing cards for poker and whatnot at the Dayton Ohio air museum, that had aircraft silhouettes and names on them, because I'd never thought about that sort of stuff before. Seeing a set of cards that were used by actual people brought home how real those events were, definitely want to go again when I get the chance.
Yeah I've got this one! Quiz 2, picture 10.5 is text saying 'Air Cadets Photo Quiz answers on page 26'. Flawless performance.
Love the lead in (and setup) for the topic. The 1969 'Battle of Britain' scene was great and fun..
My friend used to help his dad with NATO vs Warsaw Pact tank identification by silhouette flash cards in the 1980s. Very similar techniques.
Yes! I recognized the *Hellcat* because one of my favorite video games for the Macintosh was *“Hellcats over the Pacific”!* 😂
edit: also the Buffalo (thank you Wikipedia wormhole!)
My dad was a boomer who moved to candada from englund. His childhood comics all included sections on learning the silhouettes of german planes. Lots of racism too.
Royal Observer Corp post 1941.... before then they were just Observer Corp, formed part of the Police force, hence the use of Duty Arm band before being take over by the Air Minister.
Serving in the military during the Cold War ,I was trained in rapid ID of Warsaw Pact aircraft. Everything from Mig fighters to the big Tupolev "Bear" and everything in between. They tested us on images of the plane from different angles and you had a half-second peek. Yeah, forgive my brag, I scored full marks. 😆 As a result, I can still tell a Flogger from a Foxbat and a Bear from a Badger - but I haven't kept up with anything post 1990.
Speaking of kit I really appreciate your RAF uniform and all your models and materials well done. I am putting together a Cold War RAF uniform myself.
I got 5 on the first quiz, love all your videos, and this was very interesting......best wishes from Florida, Paul
You need to do a full video on the Royal Observer Corps, forgotten hero’s of the Battle Of Britain.
I recognised one of the silhouettes as Thunderbird 2!
This was really fun, but I only could identify the Storch, the Giant and the Mosquito 😅 I'm so rusty, when I was a kid I knew all those airplanes! I had a great time watching this, thanks for sharing!
Oooh! Do one on pre-radar aircraft detection next!
thank you, another awsome job of teaching to us
Fun vide, make more, I enjoyed this and made out pretty well on the quizzes.
I've always wondered how they knew if a downed flyer in the water was friend or foe from above.
Love how you made the effort of donning that uniform for this video, Gilles! 😊
Another fascinating video👍and congratulations on the subscribers award! Just one point- it’s probably just my ocd tendencies- but having it displayed over your left shoulder throws the balance of the shot off and looks a bit wonky since it’s silver. One cubby over either way would be visually pleasing. IMHO 😎 love your work!
As I live in Toronto I got the Lancaster… granted I recognize the sound of the engines before I see it… Cheers 👍
I live on L. Erie and in the flight path of Hamilton airport so every summer I see them fly over, I too hear them before seeing them. If not mistaken,m its when they come back from the US on the way to Hamilton and Toronto . Sometimes they fly over us turning to go back to Hamilton, nice sight but id rather see other aircraft, we arent as spoiled as Europe.
I recon the best way to become intimate with an aircraft is to build a detailed model of it. Paint and all.
Great video. Thank you for proving to me that I stink at airplane recognition. 😂
I recall reading about the ‘Renshaw Method’ in an old Robert Heinlein novel. It was presented as this amazing system for greatly expanding a person’s ability to take in and process information.
Looking good, Gilles!
At least i got the spitfire and corsair right lol. 2 out of 50 or so, not to shabby 😅
Not going to lie I was a bit startled when the video clicked over to you and you were in a period appropriate uniform.
What period, more specifically what airforce?? It's a cosplay.
I so wanna play a game of spotto with a bunch of aviation geeks.
I know I wouldn’t do very well but I think it would be a hoot
18:37 I have a copy of the book on the far left, 1972 edition. Got it from my dad years ago. I consider myself a huge aviation enthusiast, but I did terrible on those recognition tests.
Thank you, very interesting and informative, I remember the cover of an old Popular Science magazine showing a huge set of acoustic "ears" steerable to hone in on aircraft based on their engine sound
I did terribly on the first two quizzes but surprisingly well on the third with the flash cards.
Awesome video, great watching!
Loved the quizzes even though they weirdly stressed me out as though I was doing it during a real life and death situation in WW2.
As a kid, I was given an Petlyakov PE 8 AC recognition model, made out of vinyl, like a record. Lost in many moves unfortunately.
so at the 1st quiz i managed to identify the hurricane as a Ki-61. and i feel stupid doing so
another i failed was the gotha. partly cause i never heard of it so i thought it was the boxcar
i coudlnt remember the name of the Ju 290. but recognized it as said german heavy bomber
and somehow identified the BV 222 for the 238. silly me.
my confidence shattered at the B5N Kate as i identified it as the Texan trainer.
but everything else i managed to be spot on.
Since you're hiding that spare tire under the RCAF uniform, you should do an episode on 5BX.
its interesting hearing about how they evolved their approach to IDing aircraft, especially as someone who plays a lot of combat flight simulators. i started with just the three view silhouettes, but it didnt work too well, then i was taught by someone about some of the specific features you could pick out from a distance to help narrow down what you're looking at. i also have the allies and axis three view pages up on my wall, they're next to an angle-off chart for aerial gunnery.
17:19 -- i actually got this one pretty quick. the two-engined plane on the left has a stubbier nose, which makes it look like a mosquito or HS 129, while the one on the right looked to me like a JU88 or HE111, with no similar allied aircraft i know of looking like that.
Do you have any resources on where to get reproduction allied spotting manuals? it's something i'd like to have my hands on from a practical standpoint of being better-able to ID random WWII aircraft i see
great channel do not regret subbing
I had a leaflet called "oddentifications" where the unusual features were exaggerated like caricatures.
Every plane is a B-2 to me.
"B-2 bad if it isn't ours." 😅
14 out of 20. 10 out of 23. i guess i did better with silhouettes. this was definitely a humbling experience. ive been into ww2 aircraft for decades, yet i didnt get some that were common or couldnt remember the names but at least got the manufacturer, or at least friend or foe.
excellent and fascinating video btw!
Bring Spotto into 17 Wing and I will get even less work done there than I already do/don’t!
"Naval Combat Intelligence Combat School"
What does the A stand for, Gilles?
Hello, Q; what is the fourth image showing the young ladies in front of instruments in the introduction. My Dad Michael was a young lad living in Farnham during the War and was trained to identify aircraft to assist the ARP, he also rode his bicycle caring messages to various Observers etc. I asked him " was he frightened " and he said for a young boy it was an exciting adventure, he never spoke of the bad moments in fact people didn't say much about that time and it wasn't the done thing to ask.
1/72 scale is just about Lego Minifig scale.
I'm sure that's why they chose that scale.
Thanks for the interesting video. I thought I was pretty good at aircraft recognition since I can tell the F-22 from the F-35. Apparently there more to it than I initially thought.
I forgot to ask. Why didn't they just 3D print the airplane models? Oh, never mind.
I am wondering why I don't more 3D printed aircraft myself.
A Lego Minifig is more like 1/48 in height. The proportions aren't exactly human tho, so a Minifig won't fit in any of your 48 aircraft cockpitw.
@@fonesrphunny7242 "a Minifig won't fit in any of your 48 aircraft cockpit"
Yeah, minifigs are kind of an odd scale. Years ago (in 2008) I made a computer animation of a minifig walking. It was kind of hard for me to figure out how to get a figure with no knees, elbow, or ankles to make a semi-good walking style. There's a bad copy of the animation on my channel. The title is "Copy of LegoWalkBadCopy130305a"
I wish we had minifigs when I was a kid. I loved building with Lego bricks but it was hard to find an appropriately sized figure to act as pilot of my various spaceships and airplanes.
I build models and I loved this, thanks.
I live near a Chicago general aviation airport, does anyone make silhouettes for business jet identification?
Any recommendations?
Living where I do, it's always a handy skill to have. I can tell the Battle of Britain flight from the local general aviation types, and the interesting helicopters (army and RAF) from the boring ones (agency rental, that local guy that owns an R44, noisy rich twats). I can't tell twin-engined airliners apart; I don't want to seem racist, but they all look the same to me.
17:06 It seems the He111 already took exensive damahe as it has holes going trough its fuesalage.
Not even 1500+ hours in War Thunder air battles could help me with this one. i guessed like 3 correctly. 😅
War Blunder has a very limited number of WW2 aircraft.
1. Boat 2. Boat 3. Boat 4. That's a plane
I thought the Bv-138 was a Catalina (didn't pay attention to the dorsal engine). Sorry folks but the convoy has been spotted and the wolfpack is waiting. My bad. That's why they used P-38s as fleet defense during the D-Day landings, the Germans didn't have any twin boom/single cockpit fighter planes so even a lousy eyeball like mine on an AA gun wouldn't try and shoot them down.
Could you please advise what the central insignia on the wings on your uniform is.
It is a propeller with an odd crown over it.
Dual wings are pilots in British and Commonwealth practice, with the force in letters (RAF, RCAF etc.) in the centre, with the King or Queen's crow above. That doesn't match!
Based on the ribbons below, that uniform belonged to a member with both World War 2 & Korea service. The member also had at least 22 years of service from the CD1 ribbon as well, the earliest which was issued in 1951.
The crown is likely the Tudor crown. The member probably worn their original badge their entire career, and never updated to the version with the St. Edward’s crown.
From my review, the Triple Propeller blades are for Flight Engineers.
What an excellent video! Thank you so much from a collector in Amsterdam. If you are interested in photo’s how can I reach you?
I was wondering what you're opening gag would be.. I should have seen that a mile away! (Or maybe I did see it.. but misidentified it?)
The only plane I can identify is Snoopy's Sopwith Camel.
Proper Aircraft Recognition: Because no one benefits from getting things Just Plane Wrong.
My father trained us to do this.
New vid, yay!
After the first quiz, I've decided to become a submariner.
...3rd down on tbe LHS looks like a Blohm und Voss...
21:10 Yeah, not how the Renshaw Method works but the Air Force didn't understand it either. The biggest problem with Flash Recognition (as it was also known) is that there were more ways to do it wrong than to do it right. The AF kept "improving" it until it didn't work anymore and then tried to justify through "analysis" why the fault was with the system. Renshaw taught the Navy Instructors to conduct a 30 hour Flash Recognition Course. The Army Air Force pushed a 10-15 hour program and then brought in psychologists to prove the fault wasn't with their execution. And for God's sake, it's pronounced TAH-KIST-TOE-SCOPE.
Audio out of sync?
Not for me.
i literary got everyone wrong. Every singe one :)
ya, those are all air planes
does anybody know the movie from the intro?
Battle of Britain
This would have been sooooo useful if this was 1942 and i was a pilot 😆
If i couldn't get the name, i at least got the country.
Fokkers to the left of me!
Fokkers to the right!
........
In the modern day you can just have people play War Thunder.
Anyone else wish they own a PB???
Ans omg i want a copy of that magazine
I guessed right cuz first one was left 😂, piolets better avoid me
Yes, but these Fokkers were Messerschmitts!
I got 1 wrong #10 Ju.290 A seldom seen type of German technology. Crappy at best.
You are canadian, right ? how come that you pronounce "Dornier" so wrong then ???! It's a french name.
I thought Dornier were German.
@@alb8758 the company is/was German. The name is french. Look it up on Wikipedia.
..at almost 75 I (and my model building friends can still spot mistakes in movies..made by non Boomer model builders who HAVE NO CLUE...
The least filthy use of the word ever.