Why the longest English word is PAPAL and SPA is the pointiest.

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  • @standupmaths
    @standupmaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    Double thanks! Private Internet Access privateinternetaccess.com/standupmaths (For 2.08 $/month we can be VPN buddies.) and of course my Patreons. If you cannot find your name in the spreadsheet credits, ask me for your keyboard distance over here: privateinternetaccess.com/standupmaths
    And thanks to the folks at pi-ratebay.com/ they are the real heroes.

    • @jeffrey997
      @jeffrey997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PAPALS?

    • @jessehammer123
      @jessehammer123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      In your “EVERYDAY USE OF PYTHAGORAS” slide, you misspell it “PYTHAGORUS”, with a “U” near the end instead of an “A”.

    • @jessehammer123
      @jessehammer123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And I think “Schizogony” should be pronounced “sk-it-z-AW-guh-nee”. Approximately.

    • @paulfragemann3333
      @paulfragemann3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And know do it for qwertz Keyboard so I know what I need to do ;D

    • @paulfragemann3333
      @paulfragemann3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DayInDaLife Nah, the problem with going away from qwertz (or in my case qwertz since I'm german) is that you would have to rebind a lot of keys in games and Programms + as far as I know, no alternative layout has the öäüß Keys I need for my school work...

  • @alkalinekats8300
    @alkalinekats8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    "If you accept the definition that a word as some letters, surrounded by a gap, then xnopyt, aaaaaaajjjjjjjjj, hrrkrkrkrwpfrbrbrbrlablblblblblblwhitoo'ap, are all words" ~Tom Scott

    • @Sci0927
      @Sci0927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Qmqmqmqmqmqmqm them

    • @Racrdude24
      @Racrdude24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      "xnopyt, AA-"

    • @londonreturns
      @londonreturns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which video sir

    • @alkalinekats8300
      @alkalinekats8300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@londonreturns th-cam.com/video/m8niIHChc1Y/w-d-xo.html
      "What Counts as a Word?"

    • @londonreturns
      @londonreturns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alkalinekats8300 thanks haven't seen this one in a while

  • @danielhuneke5862
    @danielhuneke5862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    "If you're goin' up and down, you're in hypotenuse town." Is probably the nerdiest phrase I've ever heard.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's a poet and he knows it.

    • @PhilHibbs
      @PhilHibbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't you also need to be going side to side to have a hypotenuse?

    • @danielhuneke5862
      @danielhuneke5862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PhilHibbs in the video he was talking about moving around on a keyboard and on a keyboard the keys are misaligned which means that going up and down on a keyboard will automatically mean you're also going side to side.

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am definitely going to start using "hypotenuse town" anytime I need to move diagonally.

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In fact, if I were to ever found a settlement, I might call it Hypotenuse Town (Town being part of the name, so it keeps this no matter how big it grows. I grew up in a town that had City in it's name.), and all of the city blocks would be triangles, making all of the intersections 3-way. (Or roundabouts, of course.)
      *fires up Cities: Skylines*

  • @freelancer42
    @freelancer42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2367

    This is a lot of research into something that ultimately doesn't really matter all that much. And I appreciate every second of it!

    • @catdogfishdogcats
      @catdogfishdogcats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It matters to speed typists lol

    • @ichJONGleur
      @ichJONGleur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Isnt that first sentence what Brian David Gilberts mom told Brian once?

    • @freelancer42
      @freelancer42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ichJONGleur It might be loosely based on that, yes :)

    • @overlisted
      @overlisted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      that's what standupmaths is all about

    • @TheDool
      @TheDool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thats math in a nutshell.

  • @skarphld
    @skarphld ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Linguist by training + recreational math hobbyist + circular fingerpoke typing enthusiast = delighted fan. Keep up the good (?) work!

  • @TheHookUp
    @TheHookUp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4576

    I'm pretty sure Matt is as close as we have to a modern day Greek "philosopher"... an extremely bright person who just sits around and thinks about stuff all day.

    • @ClaíomhDClover
      @ClaíomhDClover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      pretty much

    • @DonReba
      @DonReba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

      Unlike Greek philosophers, Matt is often right.

    • @narnigrin
      @narnigrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I didn't expect the smart-home contingent to show up here! You were the first to get me into Shellys, hi! :)

    • @ornessarhithfaeron3576
      @ornessarhithfaeron3576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@DonReba How would you say something so controversial yet so brave

    • @_supersolar
      @_supersolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      you know there are people alive today who have the actual job 'philosopher'???? and a degree for it??
      do you think no one else has a job involving thinking about things?!?!

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    That "Mathematics, he wrote" intro was both the funniest look I could have ever imagined Matt having and the most sublime version of the Stand-up Maths theme I've heard so far.

    • @gianlucalocri
      @gianlucalocri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly!! I love Matt's joke!! Let's crank up the thumbs up for the comment above!!

    • @Katesashark
      @Katesashark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Me watching the intro…
      Wait a minute…
      Waaaait a minute….

    • @SimonClarkstone
      @SimonClarkstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      1:20 Looks at his wrist but he's not even wearing a watch.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Every time Matt's team makes an intro they always outdo themselves.

    • @calebmcurby8580
      @calebmcurby8580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he should make the opening permanent

  • @agnarrenolen1336
    @agnarrenolen1336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    This has an important application in spell checking, as most typing errors comes from missing a key and press one adjacent to it. So if you misspell a word, your spell checker should suggest the word with the closest “distance” to it.

    • @darrelstinkmeaner4673
      @darrelstinkmeaner4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      You're right! Quick, someone code the software and sell it to bill gates, the world needs smart spellcheck!

    • @Jocobalo
      @Jocobalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Who knew this video might have a direct application lol

    • @emilsvahn5400
      @emilsvahn5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Isn't this how spell check works? I've always thought that's how it's done

    • @germansnowman
      @germansnowman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Google and Shazam searches also work like this, just with many dimensions. The closer a result is to the input in the multidimensional space, the more relevant it is.

    • @Bryan-qd4fk
      @Bryan-qd4fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@darrelstinkmeaner4673 last semester I had to do this for one of my CS classes. I created a (suboptimal) distance function between strings.

  • @ReasonableSwampMonster
    @ReasonableSwampMonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    It’s just great that such a large number of the shortest words are so silly

  • @KleenerBro
    @KleenerBro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    "But Mr. Parker, what is the point of learning this stuff about vectors? It's totally useless in the real world!"
    "You could calculate the pointiest words on a keyboard."
    "Thanks, Mr. Parker! Now suddenly math is total fun for me."

    • @starpetalarts6668
      @starpetalarts6668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dr. Parker*

    • @noahniederklein8081
      @noahniederklein8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@starpetalarts6668 He has a PhD? I didn't know that

    • @jurian0101
      @jurian0101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This, made me find my inner British schoolboy voice, who speaks in perfect Received Pronunciation. Surely the second paragraph come in Matt's voice. Got those a while ago.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jurian0101 My inner voice was also a schoolboy, but with a transatlantic accent.

    • @HO-bndk
      @HO-bndk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't study higher maths at school because it's "useful". You study maths and languages at school because they are the best ways to rigorously train your mind.

  • @juriaanv
    @juriaanv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    Fun fact: The word spa originated from the Belgian village Spa, renowned for its mineral springs. Unfortunately the inhabitants in Spa can't enjoy how pointy the word is because the AZERTY key layout is used there.

    • @mikeburston9427
      @mikeburston9427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      would matts code work for these keyboards as well

    • @ilonachan
      @ilonachan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@mikeburston9427 It would but the key coordinates would be different

    • @wannesdemaeyer3343
      @wannesdemaeyer3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      on azerty it's still pretty sharp since it's just the a and q that swap places, the p stays where it is

    • @doofkopf2579
      @doofkopf2579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so on azerty keyboards you dont play youre videogames with WASD but with WQSD ?

    • @loicoberle6156
      @loicoberle6156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@doofkopf2579 We play them using ZQSD actually !

  • @bw0n6
    @bw0n6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    You may find it interesting that the word "minimum" is also one of the most favoured practice words in calligraphy for lowercase characters.

    • @rosepinkskyblue
      @rosepinkskyblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh yes it’s so fun to write
      So many similar strokes but still not gibberish or drills

    • @bw0n6
      @bw0n6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rosepinkskyblue Indeed, it works well to practice consistent spacing and slope.

    • @snsnni
      @snsnni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      in our local language, we use "namumunumunuan", which means "pretend ruler" or "a ruler that power trips", and "namumuhumuhunan" which means "pretending to invest" or something (it's hard to express the essence of the word in english). they are written in alphabet, yes.

    • @bw0n6
      @bw0n6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@snsnni The inclusion of multiple m, n, u, and h letters in the word would certainly make the word appropriate for calligraphic practice. What language is that?

    • @snsnni
      @snsnni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bw0n6 it's tagalog, a filipino language. they do have long trains of m's, u's, n's, and h's bc of its repetition of syllables wc is a grammatic rule to change the words' meaning. so we have quite a handful of long calligraphy friendly words. it's a really strange and beautiful language.

  • @ialsoagree
    @ialsoagree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As a chemistry major I appreciate the longest word (in letters) in your dataset, but my biology professor has it beat with perhydrocyclopentanophenanthrene - which he was quite surprised I remembered 1 semester after teaching it, and I still remember more than a decade later.
    It's the name of the base molecule for various cholesterols.

    • @09DinoDino
      @09DinoDino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is longer no?

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@09DinoDinothat word has incorrect roots
      It's invalid

    • @09DinoDino
      @09DinoDino ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xnoob545 it’s still in the Oxford Dictionary so…..

  • @Kyanzes
    @Kyanzes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    "See, everyday use of Pythagorus!"
    "Hmm, interesting, and what is this everyday use?"
    "Putting together a logic to measure distance travelled between keyboard keys..."
    "I see. Could happen to anyone, any day."

    • @germansnowman
      @germansnowman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or Pythagoras, even :)

    • @ComradeTiki
      @ComradeTiki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@germansnowman The card at 5:45 celebrates lesser-known philosophizer Pythagorus.

    • @lightdropp
      @lightdropp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComradeTiki he actually is a really known mathematician.

    • @goldenwarrior1186
      @goldenwarrior1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lightdropp It’s misspelled

    • @lightdropp
      @lightdropp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldenwarrior1186 are you talking about me or the other guy?

  • @dirkh8335
    @dirkh8335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    Should have got Tom Scott in for this classy linguistics fun

    • @Barely_Edited
      @Barely_Edited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Not gonna lie almost thought that was him in the intro

    • @tafazzi-on-discord
      @tafazzi-on-discord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tom is unbearably leftleaning.

    • @bgdu93
      @bgdu93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@tafazzi-on-discord lol you ok bru? You can't bear it really?

    • @Daniikk1012
      @Daniikk1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      xnopit

    • @tedros6917
      @tedros6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@tafazzi-on-discord this is a video about linguistics and math, let's not make it a partisan issue

  • @LucyXuCovers
    @LucyXuCovers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Huh this is actually really interesting as someone who types on their phone with the 'swipe' method, the intended audience for those distance calculations haha

    • @JRNimmo
      @JRNimmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I want to see him swipe these.
      Also as far as swipe texting goes I enjoy "dearest" you should try it out. It's like a double loop de loop! ➰➰

    • @HelgeMoulding
      @HelgeMoulding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are many "swipe" words that aren't unique, so they cause problems. I wonder if there's a way to optimize the key layout for swiping...

    • @LucyXuCovers
      @LucyXuCovers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HelgeMoulding It has been a major issue for me over the years making accidental typos, especially with had/has and if/is but on the other hand I also know where all the letters are on the keyboard really well so I don't know if a different layout would help.

    • @Alguem387
      @Alguem387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's possible to Latin this power?

    • @tad2021
      @tad2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Been using gesture typing for almost a decade. The many issue that comes up are straight line disambiguation, like "cores" and "chores" that I encountered today.

  • @Theoreticaly
    @Theoreticaly ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I'd like to add a few words for everyone's consideration: DREAD, alternatively READ. Has a wonderful little circle motion. Hours of fun. WARD is another good one with an easy but satisfying one-hand motion. MINIMUM is still really very good, though; definitely hard to beat that one.

    • @jamie5092
      @jamie5092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      DREADS and READS -- filling in the middle of the circle is quite satisfying to me :)

    • @faland0069
      @faland0069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember seeing a post that said that typing the word "skepticism" feels like playing ping pong with your keyboard. And... they're not wrong.

    • @thisguyispeculiar
      @thisguyispeculiar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here's one: SEA
      Use one hand and two fingers, simple but fun, especially if you keep going.

    • @mathladprotocat
      @mathladprotocat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “SOMEONE” is pretty fun to type when swiping to text

    • @error_6o6
      @error_6o6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Treads is also nice

  • @visusdeiveri
    @visusdeiveri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    14:37 “Deess” is an obsolete word meaning goddess.
    Deo/Deus being masculine for god, Deess being feminine for goddess, Deity being neutral.
    The pronunciation would have been more like DAY-ESS, rather than DEE-S.

    • @alicesmith5361
      @alicesmith5361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That makes so much more sense as a word now. Thank you!

    • @visusdeiveri
      @visusdeiveri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alicesmith5361 welcome :)

    • @Redddragon
      @Redddragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

      Deess nuts

    • @WolfgangDoW
      @WolfgangDoW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@Redddragon that's the point, deess have no nuts :P

    • @Brocseespec
      @Brocseespec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Redddragon Red Dragon more like…
      RED DRAG'IN DEEZ NUT

  • @R.B.
    @R.B. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When we were making Swype, I explored a lot of similar things. Our dictionary for English was smaller, but the words we used were first categorized by usage frequency. Some of the words you chose in this video weren't ones we had in our dictionary, but it was still interesting to explore.
    We also came up with word art. By changing the trace fade timeout so that it wouldn't disappear until you start the next word, you could draw pictures which were words. Because Swype was looking in its dictionary of words, the precision could be off with respect to what key you actually went to, so the art could be a little more expressive and you'd still get the word you intended. "BANANA" was a word which could be traced and you would have a nice picture of a banana with the ridges on the fruit visible in the sketch. My favorite was "COSMIC" because with the tolerances I described you could create an elongated star -- very swooshy and stylistic.

    • @tspander
      @tspander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a small world! I was just thinking how his distance and angle calculations are actually quite relevant for swipe-style keyboards and was disappointed that he didn’t make that point in the video. But here you are actually having developed them! That’s super cool, thanks for sharing that story :)

    • @samuelgibson780
      @samuelgibson780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Swype rocks. Swype on a QWERTY phone keyboard is very satisfying in my opinion.

  • @MCLooyverse
    @MCLooyverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I love how any mathematics involving spelling just devolves into "This string has this property. Yes, apparently it is a word. No, I've never heard of it either.".

  • @Bako9901
    @Bako9901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a german Maths student i really enjoy listen to ur vids when going to sleep.
    Yesterday I got really upset as I understood lettuce every time u said letters O.o
    I never had any difficulties with english accents till today :D
    Just thought it would be fun to share .) Have a great day everyone!

  • @pahaha70
    @pahaha70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    I have never experienced a more "this is for my audience, and we get each-other" video in my life. I love this video so much, but can't think of anyone who I can share it with, who isn't already a subscriber.

  • @tjejojyj
    @tjejojyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Nice. “Mathematics He Wrote” deserves a prime time series.
    I look forward to reading your paper on this subject at the next Annals of Recreational Lexicography, Graphology and Typing.

  • @AtomicShrimp
    @AtomicShrimp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1222

    I'm sure someone must already have asked this - is it possible, using these measurements and this database of words, to redefine the keyboard layout for minimum expected finger travel? I know that's kind of the concept of the Dvorak layout, but that was designed in 1936, without these kinds of tools.

    • @DarthFennec
      @DarthFennec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +305

      Pretty sure Dvorak was also supposedly optimized for home-row touch-typing, not one-finger hunt-and-peck. The layout of something optimized for hunt-and-peck would be _much_ different I'd imagine.

    • @martinwyke
      @martinwyke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      We'd also need to know word popularity in regular usage.

    • @cyanophage4351
      @cyanophage4351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Yes! There are lots of alternative layouts that are far superior to qwerty. Colemak is a popular one. Dvorak is another alternative. Workman, Halmak, RSTHD. Halmak was designed using a genetic algorithm. RSTHD was designed using simulated annealing. Lots of different designs to cater for different styles of typing.

    • @iamsushi1056
      @iamsushi1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@cyanophage4351 I don't really care what goes on with the rest of my keyboard, but I want x, k, c, and d in that order on the bottom row of mine.

    • @Jrez
      @Jrez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There's a ton of layouts, there's some even designed as a balanced measure for people who know qwerty but want to improve ergonomics with as few alterations as possible.

  • @tomatosauce5775
    @tomatosauce5775 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think it would be interesting to expand this for touchtyping and other keyboard layouts. A truly “optimal” layout matters less than your familiarity with it, but it is still interesting

    • @horusreloaded6387
      @horusreloaded6387 ปีที่แล้ว

      This should work great with swipe typing(what's the real term?) on touch keyboards

    • @goomygaming980
      @goomygaming980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@horusreloaded6387 that is the real term

  • @ravenjoybower
    @ravenjoybower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    As both a recreational mathematician *and* a recreational linguist, I can't express quite how much I love this video. Absolutely amazing, Matt, so good!

  • @lucashowelllucifer9246
    @lucashowelllucifer9246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    “Terrorproof” is also obviously disqualified from being all on the top row due to that “f” at the end, Matt. 😬

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oof

    • @nishatelya7576
      @nishatelya7576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      thats why he said "if you disqualify it."

    • @rschroev
      @rschroev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      It's a Parker top row

    • @Milamberinx
      @Milamberinx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He must have been writing on a Parker Typewriter.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once again, Lucifer is absolutely right.

  • @frogjmon
    @frogjmon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    Crazy idea, run a novel through your typing distance program. I want to know how far an author had to move their fingers to type a book, next level would be a book series (go all in with wheel of time haha)

    • @dylpicklecubes8234
      @dylpicklecubes8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love this idea

    • @60lego6
      @60lego6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bump

    • @mcjavabelike8320
      @mcjavabelike8320 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you need to assume that they use a hunt-and-peck method instead of something with multiple fingers involved

    • @clairekholin6935
      @clairekholin6935 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But wheel of time was written by two authors!

    • @frankzaffuto3670
      @frankzaffuto3670 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      alternatively, there's the Foreigner sequence by C.J. Cherryh, that's a long haul at 22 books so far, and is going to go to 27, because 27 is just... such a good number. The Atevi -love- are very pleased by the number three.

  • @varunmuhilviswanathan3234
    @varunmuhilviswanathan3234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At 5:40, Matt officially found the most useful application of the Pythagoras theorem, (I learnt it to be Pythagoras by the way, and not Pythagorus). Trinity Music College, London awarded him for this discovery and now it is used to produce papers for printing.

  • @PeterMoore5
    @PeterMoore5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    But Matt, what's the longest word you can type without crossing over a previous vector? What's the longest word with the most cross-overs? We need to know!

    • @joeloftus6148
      @joeloftus6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The longest words I can find without crossing over are CLAPPER and POLARITY. NUMBERY is also a great one, simply because it has "number" in it, but alas, it is a much shorter distance than CLARITY and POLARITY. I shall now anxiously await Matt's answer!
      As for the most cross-overs? I'll throw RELINQUISHMENT into the hat, because the final M-E-N-T does a ton of damage by crossing lots of previous vectors at the same time. It's pretty cool that there isn't much crossing up till that point, and then there's a whole slew of it! Although I assume Matt's algorithm will find something better.

    • @ChickenWire
      @ChickenWire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Some guesses of polygonal, zigzag and spiral words
      3 letters pen, was, saw, car, ice, are, gut, hug, tug, mad
      4 letters lock, rome, move, play, seed, bell, loop
      5 letters point, poise, acari, adore
      6 letters igloo, chores, closer, reload, remold
      7 letters shallop
      10 letters temporally
      A fun words to type:
      lollipop, polio
      Reply if you find better ones

    • @murphy54000
      @murphy54000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@joeloftus6148 CLAPPER passes over P-E with E-R (as they're on the same plane) as does POLARITY (IT passes over RI, as does TY). The longest I can think of off the top of my head is "LINGER" or "ANGLER"
      My guess for most is "STEWARDESSES".

    • @joeloftus6148
      @joeloftus6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@murphy54000 Oh yeah, I knew there was a slight issue with "same plane" movement, but I was just following what Matt does in the video, ignoring all angles of 0 or 180 degrees. If you want to count "doesn't cross over" as "also doesn't repeat on itself", then it does indeed get much more limited. ANKLET improves ANGLER by 19.05mm!

    • @bababooey2731
      @bababooey2731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wandered? also waster is a really tightly packed word that doesn’t cross any previous vectors

  • @kirsten0233
    @kirsten0233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I love that calculating keyboard geometry for fun is "everyday life" to this guy. Never change.

  • @brookstarkington
    @brookstarkington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I love the gradual decline from “incredibly excited about these findings” to “depressed this is how I’m spending my life” present in this video.

    • @PandoraSystem
      @PandoraSystem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't that Matt Parker energy in a nutshell.

  • @wslaxmiddy
    @wslaxmiddy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how as soon as you said type and minimum, before even saying how satisfying it was to type, the FIRST think my mind went to was that fluid up and down motion of typing. minimum. minimum. minimum, it's great

  • @finnlockington3791
    @finnlockington3791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "A use of pythagoras in everyday life". AH yes, everyday life. I certainly often feel it necessary to find the distance between keys. Such a relatable moment

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I need to enter those relatable moments in my rela-table *spreadsheet.*

  • @mickdriver3942
    @mickdriver3942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    As a joiner, 'The fence post problem' is enough to explain the letters/gaps disparity. It appears all the time in joinery. Calculating the space between spindles in a balustrade is made more complicated by the fact that there is one more spindle than gap (Counting newels as spindles). When calculating the width of doors for a wardrobe you have to keep in mind that there will be one more divider than the number of doors. And of course, you always need one more fencepost than fence panels.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why yes... of course. Newels. And Spindles. I know all about those.

    • @datpudding5338
      @datpudding5338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same in metal works whenever you want a row of holes at a certain distance along a certain length.
      Gets real nice if each end needs another distance from the workpiece's edges xD
      Hint: just remember the formula for the last one as it is more versatile and the "standard" fence case is applicable aswell

    • @HordrissTheConfuser
      @HordrissTheConfuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...unless the fence is a closed loop.

    • @playercircuit
      @playercircuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chaparajos*

  • @asterix4621
    @asterix4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    In German, „zog“ is actually a real word (the past tense of „ziehen“) but we cannot enjoy its pointiness because we commonly use the QWERTZ layout.

    • @Laurabeck329
      @Laurabeck329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      on QWERTZ keybosrd zog is actually really pointy

    • @ssdd28561
      @ssdd28561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, in russian culture ZOG is well-known as a name of an organization in a particular conspiracy theory. So I wonder if Matt avoided the word because it is quite racist, because it is an abbreviation (are those "words"?), or because it is not that recognizable in English?

    • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
      @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssdd28561 I'm not English, but I speak it quite fluently. That said I've never heard or read any reference to the Russian word ZOG, actually in the west we are generally pretty ignorant about the russian and estern european cultures. It's no surprise given the cold war and all the propaganda associated with it up to the 90s

  • @jonmansson
    @jonmansson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible that you can make a 30 min long video with this content. Love it!

  • @johnbailey8103
    @johnbailey8103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The fact that Matt provides all the files and stuff he uses, not only 1: has made my University career so much easier, but 2. also makes this my favorite favorite channel because I can mess with and experiment more with what Matt already did

  • @BbomberBoy
    @BbomberBoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    This could be a fun way of comparing the alternative layouts, like Dvorak and colemak, no? Disregarding the fact that they are explicitly made for touch typing, maybe this could test if they would be better for the "double hunt and peck approach" as well.

    • @simcowgames981
      @simcowgames981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Then optimized layouts would be a circle keyboard. Bunch the keys as close together as possible. Put most popular letters in middle (vowels) and bridge out.

    • @arenomusic
      @arenomusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@simcowgames981 Very interesting applications in hyper-realistic sci-fi media, personal communications devices with a wildly different keyboard layout.

    • @he1d1_
      @he1d1_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the main reason I learned Dvorak was to get away from the double hunt and peck cause none of your muscle memory translates

    • @BbomberBoy
      @BbomberBoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@he1d1_ yeah same, I started with colemak because I had really nothing to lose haha

    • @user-rd3jw7pv7i
      @user-rd3jw7pv7i 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait what are dvorak and volemak???

  • @kyrla
    @kyrla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    *types "minimum"*
    *mutes video, activates miniplayer, deactivates miniplayer, unmutes video, mutes video again*

  • @oak_meadow9533
    @oak_meadow9533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt thank you for your hard work, you are like a unicorn, completely non replace able Thank goodness. Now I cannot use the type writer keyboard without being highly self conscious about how far I travel in hunting and pecking along. (like a lot of comp sci folk from the 70's and 80's we WERE NOT touch typists) now they teach touch typing in elementary school. I am thinking about taking all keyboards that are used, and melding them together into a hyper hybrid, having multiple vowels (like five e's, etc according to etoain schrdlu). Anyway I am in basement slamming multiple KB's together thanks to you, my friend. Have a Happy New Year!

  • @TheSpacecraftX
    @TheSpacecraftX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    I never took you for a "hunt and peck" style of typist, Matt.

    • @samhays836
      @samhays836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Scandalous

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And he's legally represented by Hunt & Pecker.

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No hunting on the Parker Square.

    • @thoop6795
      @thoop6795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Typewriters often make you do that bc you have to punch the keys so hard lol.

    • @NoThankUBeQuiet
      @NoThankUBeQuiet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thoop6795 Disagree. I've used several in my life and while they were newer than this they never required hunt and peck. You just adjust your press down

  • @greenmonkey6six
    @greenmonkey6six 3 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    Writing English sentences exclusively utilizing minimally seven-digit dictionary entries produces difficult challenges. Aforesaid sentences inherently introduce cumbersome wordings, because restricting letters usually prohibits preposition utilization. Impeding further similarly helpful language constructs complicates phrasing likewise.

    • @pypeapple
      @pypeapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Bruh

    • @angelodc1652
      @angelodc1652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Does seven-digit count as one word or two?

    • @greenmonkey6six
      @greenmonkey6six 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@angelodc1652 I'm a german. It is our hobby to construct single long words out of smaller words such as "Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz". Therefore I vote for counting "seven-digit" as one word.

    • @pypeapple
      @pypeapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@angelodc1652 if it’s hyphenated it’s one word

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@pypeapple Not-always-it-isn't.

  • @AlekSaint
    @AlekSaint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    For those who are wondering about "Deess": Deessing (pronounced "De-Essing") is the process of reducing sibilance in a voice recording.
    Great video as always Matt!

    • @FindecanorNotGmail
      @FindecanorNotGmail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      And it doesn't have anything to do with nutz ... Who would have known.

    • @xnossisx5950
      @xnossisx5950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There's actually another meaning to this one that I found online: it's an archaic word that's basically the feminine version of "deity", i.e. a goddess.

    • @muhilan8540
      @muhilan8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xnossisx5950 yes this is what I found too

    • @mark20044
      @mark20044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xnossisx5950 Borrowed from French déesse, feminine of dieu (“god”).

    • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
      @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      from latin "deus" (god) and "dea" (goddess). Since the English language often uses the -ess ending to give a word a feminine connotation we can se how the word "deess" can stem from the latin radix "de-"

  • @thisguyispeculiar
    @thisguyispeculiar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The first word that came to my mind have a Z, O and G in it is "zigzagoon" which is the name of a pokemon so not really an English word but it is very pointy and makes a neat shape on your keyboard that touches the extreme left, extreme right and exact middle of your keyboard!

  • @edmund-osborne
    @edmund-osborne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I would love to see a part 2 of this video exploring alternative layouts like Dvorak and Colemak, or even an attempt at creating a keyboard optimised for one finger use!

    • @ToxNano
      @ToxNano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Steam Controller profile pick checks out :D

    • @edmund-osborne
      @edmund-osborne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ToxNano I love my steam controller! I modded the soft keyboard to imitate Dvorak. Its high hand alternation makes it a perfect fit for the SC.

    • @ToxNano
      @ToxNano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@edmund-osborne As a fellow input aficionado I concur, It's pretty great :D

    • @obbinexx3991
      @obbinexx3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Point

    • @Tobyzguy
      @Tobyzguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want two finger keyboard...

  • @CraigGidney
    @CraigGidney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I have to say, I'm surprised that a man who types with two independently moving fingers didn't compute the word with the largest distance traveled when using two independently moving fingers. Sounds like an everyday practical application for ~*dynamic programming*~.
    Papal would score low because the "a"s are handled by one finger and the "pl"s by the other.

    • @PaulPaulPaulson
      @PaulPaulPaulson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      My favorite words would be those where you type with the minimal distance for two fingers and and end up with the left hand on the right side and vice versa.

    • @del7896
      @del7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That would, of course, still be a bit of a Parker effort. Proper typing technique should naturally be considered, with fingers starting from natural position on the home row.

    • @CraigGidney
      @CraigGidney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@PaulPaulPaulson It probably gets even worse than that. There might be words which require the typist to physically turn their entire body around underneath their arms, or else have arm bones made of rubber, to type with the true minimum double finger distance.

    • @martinshoosterman
      @martinshoosterman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Independent finger typists have no consistency and therefore it is not guerenteed that the p's or a's will be hit with the same finger.

    • @CraigGidney
      @CraigGidney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It should be possible to compute the "two finger typing arm winding number" for entire books. How many times did Matt have to spin in a circle as part of typing humple pi, because of his steadfast dedication to optimal unoptimal typing? Only a series of ridiculous approximations resulting an ultimately meaningless number can say for sure.

  • @cemerson
    @cemerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    "When you go up and down, you're in hypotenuse town"
    Another classic catch phrase right there

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      still sounds like a square phrase to me.

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there's a hebrew phrase kids learn in regards to crossing the roads - "אלכסון זה אסון" (hypotenuse is a disaster). in hebrew it even rhymes!

  • @stephenj9470
    @stephenj9470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    28:43 "And my internet service provider has no idea I'm doing this." [posts public video with 600K+ views]

  • @gnaskar
    @gnaskar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    "Here is some meaningless text for me to type on the typewriter in the opening tiles of the Mathematics, He Wrote video. It may be one of the more silly things I have ever done for my TH-cam channels. While I'm here I should thank my Patreon supporters who mean I can spend my days doing this. And hello to [obscured] pause the video to work out exactly what I was typing the [obscured] I hope it was worth it. I know that is exactly what I w[obscured]."
    You're welcome.

    • @popa42
      @popa42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      "[...] And hello to everyone who will pause the video to work out exactly what I was typing in those shots. [...] I know that is exactly what I would do.
      I should make it clear that this is my own typewriter which I already had. I did not waste Patreon money on this. It was [obscured]"

    • @helleye311
      @helleye311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You're a life saver, normally I'd spend 20 minutes trying to read it all but this time I was smarted and knew someone already did it. May the gods of maths smile upon you and all your calculators.

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is some meaningless text for me to type on the typewriter
      during the opening tiles of the Mathematics, He Wrote vidoe
      which may be one of the more silly things I have ever done for my
      TH-cam channel. While I'm here I should thank my Patreon supporters
      who m### mean I can spend my days doing this. And hello to everyone who will
      pause the video to work out exactly what I was typing in these shots.
      I hope it was worth it. I know that is exactly what I would do.
      And I should make it clear that this is my own typewriter which
      I already had. I did not waste Patreonn money on this. It was
      the minimum amount of effort to get it out of storage. Hmmm.
      "Minimum." That is as much fun to type on a traditional typewriter
      as is on a modern keyboard. Minimum. Takes a bit more effort. But
      is to#tally worht it. I also love using the physical SHIFT key
      on an old typewriter. The shift lock actually &&&& locks the typewriter
      in the shiftedposition. And would you believe that this isn't even
      the only typewriter I own? The other one is from the &0's though and
      far too modern, &&&
      MATHEMATICS# MATHEMATICS,
      HE WROTE

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Notes: #s are overtyped characters; &s are characters I couldn't read. The text was written using a monospaced font, but the alignment of the two bottom chunks isn't perfect for the typewritten layout. Also, due to inconsistency in the mechanical carriage return, the alignment of characters in the body of the text won't perfectly match the typewritten page.

    • @moonshine7753
      @moonshine7753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

  • @goatmeal5241
    @goatmeal5241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Spoiler: this video features the debut of the "Parker spelling" of Pythagoras at 5:45!

    • @heitzd1
      @heitzd1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *twitch*

    • @themrflibbleuk
      @themrflibbleuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw that too. If only I commented. A Parker Thought.

    • @petermsiegel573
      @petermsiegel573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. I thought a PYTHaGORus was a kind of dinosaur (emphasizing the syllables PYTH and GOR).

    • @Markovisch
      @Markovisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just spotted it myself, and checked the comments to see if someone else already noticed prior. Good job 👏

    • @GiuseppeBertini
      @GiuseppeBertini 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Markovisch ditto!

  • @Zavendea
    @Zavendea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    “Terrorproof” doesn’t just fit on the top row, though, does it lol

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Terrorpoo does, though.

    • @Talismancer
      @Talismancer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Don't worry, it's a parker square away from all being on the top row

    • @howardsmith2
      @howardsmith2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I came here to say this

    • @SSJ3Tim
      @SSJ3Tim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also came here to say this

    • @anshul5243
      @anshul5243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It's a Parker word

  • @tanyabajwa70
    @tanyabajwa70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Laughing at myself nerding out and thoroughly enjoying this stuff. I love it!

  • @asgerms
    @asgerms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Disappointed Matt didn't research which word has the largest total enclosed area, from all the enclosed sub-areas that the connecting lines sometimes produce. Surely there will be a Part 2!

    • @ckq
      @ckq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably something like covariance.
      A more easily computable version could be done by using the Shoelace theorem which includes negative areas by calculating the determinant of a matrix with all the coordinates in order.

    • @detectivejonesw
      @detectivejonesw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes please

  • @brianchervenak4006
    @brianchervenak4006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I’ve always enjoyed “dereference”… you have that satisfying cluster with the left finger, then swoop down for that renegade N, and head back to close it down with the C/E.

    • @DavidSartor0
      @DavidSartor0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

    • @isaacmammel9186
      @isaacmammel9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I prefer "dereferred", for the funky dance without having to collect the loose ends

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was looking for this comment. I type the word "references" a lot at work. I actually have a list of "fun words to type", including references, minimum, column, and restricted.

    • @Quantris
      @Quantris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      or just shift-8

    • @akiyachef_5213
      @akiyachef_5213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deference

  • @fieldri1968
    @fieldri1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Now do the sums again for Dvorak and Colemak layouts? Seriously though, I would recommend putting the time in to touch type! I did it 30 years ago, and it is really worth the effort! I remember the epiphany of realising that I was typing, but that I was thinking about what I wanted to type, not how to type it... Then we could get another of your excellent books more quickly!

    • @benwisey
      @benwisey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He just needs a direct brain to computer interface for maximum efficiency and minimum latency.

    • @cebo494
      @cebo494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Touch typing and keyboard layout have nothing to do with each other, other than that someone who has learned to touch type in one layout won't naturally be able to touch type in another. Layouts are meant to improve efficiency or ergonomics, not memorizability.

    • @blindleader42
      @blindleader42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cebo494 I can't figure out what you're responding to. Nothing was said relating touch typing to either keyboard layout or memorizability.

    • @volodyadykun6490
      @volodyadykun6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cgp grey approves

    • @duncanhw
      @duncanhw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Dvorak thing is just an internet cult, the Wikipedia says:
      "The Dvorak layout is designed to improve touch-typing, in which the user rests their fingers on the home row. It would have less effect on other methods of typing such as hunt-and-peck. Some studies show favorable results for the Dvorak layout in terms of speed, while others do not show any advantage, with many accusations of bias or lack of scientific rigour among researchers. The first studies were performed by Dvorak and his associates. These showed favorable results and generated accusations of bias.[36] However, research published in 2013 by economist Ricard Torres suggests that the Dvorak layout has definite advantages.[37]
      In 1956, a study with a sample of 10 people in each group conducted by Earle Strong of the U.S. General Services Administration found Dvorak no more efficient than QWERTY[38] and claimed it would be too costly to retrain the employees.[34] The failure of the study to show any benefit to switching, along with its illustration of the considerable cost of switching, discouraged businesses and governments from making the switch.[39] This study was similarly criticised as being biased in favor of the QWERTY control group.[8]
      In the 1990s, economists Stan Liebowitz and Stephen E. Margolis wrote articles in the Journal of Law and Economics[36] and Reason magazine[15] where they rejected Dvorak proponents' claims that the dominance of the QWERTY is due to market failure brought on by QWERTY's early adoption, writing, "[T]he evidence in the standard history of Qwerty versus Dvorak is flawed and incomplete. [..] The most dramatic claims are traceable to Dvorak himself; and the best-documented experiments, as well as recent ergonomic studies, suggest little or no advantage for the Dvorak keyboard."[36][40]"

  • @tension2732
    @tension2732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13:40 I don't know why but this quote genuienly made me laugh
    Also "water" is by far the most satisfying word to type

  • @jurjenbos228
    @jurjenbos228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    There is a also a "distance function" based on the typing pattern that can be defined for words: this is relevant for example useful for spelling correction, and security (detecting domains that are accidentally typed), and maybe other uses.

  • @frogandspanner
    @frogandspanner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Minimum" remind me of key patterns:
    I have worked where keypad door entry was used, and the number was changed on a regular basis. Once learned, all the chosen numbers seems to have an intrinsic, meaningful pattern that made the pattern easier to remember than the number sequence. I permitted a temporary speculation that software was being used to generate meaningful patterns, but it was just an arbitrary choice by an individual.
    It appears that the mind overlays the pattern on the sequence, and my experience suggests how powerful is its instinct to do so.

  • @IWubYooz
    @IWubYooz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I've recently forced myself to learn Dvorak layout and now prefer it (or at least it's what I've now got muscle memory for). I wonder how much mathematical difference there is between it and the Qwerty layout since Dvorak is supposedly more efficient, placing more commonly used letters in easier to reach places.

    • @huntersearle5336
      @huntersearle5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm glad to see I'm not the only weirdo here 😅

    • @danksagrabowski2438
      @danksagrabowski2438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm not only using Dvorak but also a Kinesis Advantage, which has non-staggered rows and is concave!

    • @peNdantry
      @peNdantry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      'supposedly'? Way to sit on the fence there, dude. Scared of upsetting the QWERTY crowd?

    • @shant756
      @shant756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wanted to learn halmak. It's a really interesting project. Check it out. Almost perfect layout. But I couldn't install it at the time and lost interest. Will try it again soon hopefully

    • @Esfeurell
      @Esfeurell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dvorak IS more efficient. Your fingers travel about 38% less distance than with QWERTY because the more common letters are closer to the home row and easy-to-reach locations. The speed increase doesn’t really matter for everyday typers, it’s more about comfort. My hands used to cramp really bad when typing, but I’ve been typing in Dvorak for almost exactly a decade now and never experienced a cramp since (I had a career where I was typing all day as well). So I would recommend Dvorak for people who don’t necessarily want to get faster but would like more comfort and less cramping.

  • @danoddwell3280
    @danoddwell3280 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Tomato" makes a satisfying clockwise circle
    "Reaches" is a nice counterclockwise circle

    • @mathladprotocat
      @mathladprotocat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Someone” makes two clockwise circles

  • @WGSen
    @WGSen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Hey Matt, audio guy here! To "de-ess" something is to take out the high pitched sibilance, eg. dampening the S-sounds of a vocal performance. I think that's the "deess" in question!

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Since Matt said he found it used it old books, I suspect it’s actually obsolete word for “goddess”

    • @tomgidden
      @tomgidden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep. That's what the OED reckons too, which is just about as definitive as you can get in a descriptive (as opposed to prescriptive) language like English.

    • @joemcalister7105
      @joemcalister7105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      de-ess these nutssssssssss

    • @gagemonster555
      @gagemonster555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@joemcalister7105 cmon loser you could have gotten it better than that
      de-ess deess nuts

    • @h-Films
      @h-Films 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      deess nuts

  • @kyleflamm4780
    @kyleflamm4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Loved the Mathematics He Wrote segment. You've really been putting in a lot of work into fun extras and I like it!

  • @emusandwich724
    @emusandwich724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    yes POOP has 2 movements, but also requires a push in the middle without any movement

  • @dhruvagarwal3895
    @dhruvagarwal3895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love how that matt putted grayish hair in the typewriter section and just started doing random things(jokingly)

  • @7th_CAV_Trooper
    @7th_CAV_Trooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    OMG, I just imagined this as a graph theory problem. I'm so broken. Every word is a weighted graph.
    Even on non-standard keyboard you can measure the distance between keys by a common unit: key. Treat the keys as in-phase array and use Pythagoras to find distance of keys in different ranks or files.
    Now I've watched the video - very impressed by "everyday usage of dot product" - lol

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haven't gotten very far into the video, is it not graph theory?

  • @major_melon2583
    @major_melon2583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    About words that are fun to spell out: Even though it's again a more scientific term, and the English version is actually split in three words rather than the single word in German, "aluminium minimum immunity" (or "Aluminiumminimumimmunität" for that matter) looks satisfying, especially if written in cursive.

    • @paulbockmann8402
      @paulbockmann8402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s like a waltz with your fingers on the keyboard

    • @sturmifan
      @sturmifan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is good.

    • @Nejvyn
      @Nejvyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The best way I can describe the feeling typing Aluminiumminimumimmunität with one finger:
      beeb beb bebbep brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bebbeb beb beeeeb ...

    • @CalebS1330
      @CalebS1330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aluminiumminimumimmunität
      Oh yes, if fingers could swoon.
      It's especially fun on a mobile, that last A when you hold and give it the old electric slide across the keyboard to the umlaut. So fun!

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a pretty good tongue-twister, too.

  • @SnapquesterMage
    @SnapquesterMage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "When you go up and down, you're in hypotenuse town" This is the kind of high brow math humor I signed up for. :D

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that Angela would really like that little parody sequence. I know that my grandfather would. He used to watch the show every time it was on the air (this was back before cable was available in my area and right around when VCRs were becoming a thing).

  • @danyael777
    @danyael777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    07:30 - I'm german, i've had my share of compound nouns. Non-technical, technical, you name it. The longest german words aren't even that uncommon in everyday speech.
    And btw, "minimum" is also very satisfying to write by hand imo.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Write it in cursive and show someone under the age of 24. Minimum was used as an example of how ridiculous cursive can be to read sometimes.

    • @12345DJay
      @12345DJay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rich1051414 minimum in cursive is just a sad worm

    • @mytube001
      @mytube001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rich1051414 It's like Russian (or most other Cyrillic script alphabets), where most of the letters have vertical lines, one to three, and few to no rounded elements that make them stand out. Add to that that Russian print typically is unusually small and very tightly kerned, and it just looks like MHIMN INHNM NMNMMIN MNHMHMNN for most of it...

  • @FlesHBoX
    @FlesHBoX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Regarding how we kept the misalignment of keys despite not having any mechanical reason to do so; The Razer Tartarus keypad uses straight columns, and let me tell you, it took a LONG time for me to get used to that, and it ruined my ability to type on a normal keyboard for quite a while after I did get used to it. I actually experienced physical pain as I adjusted to the straight key columns. And while I can type just fine again on a normal keyboard, I to this day cannot play games on a normal keyboard because of the offset. It's truly odd.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The greatest force for keeping the exact layout is that millions of us have been seriously trained to do 10 finger typing without looking at the keys. Which means all positions must match the learned positions closely enough to not hit a different key when having normal human tendency to be off within each key surface.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johndododoe1411 I use 6 fingers though. Really 10?

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndododoe1411
      You can swap keys around and pick it up surprisingly fast. If you literally randomized the letters, in 24h of typing you'd be at least 80% your original speed, and if the randomness wasn't randomly bad, you might even get as good or even better, if it just happens to fit your typing style somehow.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kindlin That doesn't change the positions of keys, only the char associated with each position. It might be more difficult if the positions changed.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kindlin As someone using multiple keyboards every day, inconsistency ruins everything. And 24 hour retraining seems like a myth based on fast learners or people without thorough training and experience with the standard layout. But switching keyboards multiple times a day makes 24 hours way too long. I need to switch in seconds to get things done.

  • @notgate2624
    @notgate2624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nice video! I'm in a community that generates a lot of optimized alternative keyboard layouts, and we do similar calculations involving key distances for bigrams, skipgrams, trigrams, etc. as well as looking at the amount of alternation, rolling, redirection, etc. there is for the actual movements.
    Ex: You could use your function that calculates right turns instead to generate an arrangement of keys (a new keyboard layout) which has the most right turns possible (on average).
    It can sound like a pain to learn, but we have a few people that can generate a brand new layout and get back up to 100+ wpm on it in a couple weeks, and they have the pleasure of typing on something that was optimized for exactly what they enjoy.
    PS. If you're curious how to make these, it's actually pretty quick to find global optimum in the ~30! search space of a 3x10 keyboard layout. You can start with lots of random ones and make swaps that improve the score of the layout for your objective function. There are cleaner ways of guaranteeing you find global optimum using things like constraint programming, but that isn't needed for just 30 keys.

    • @hermankopinga
      @hermankopinga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok, because of this comment I’m now going to delve into the Stand up maths comment section looking for more tantalizing insights like this.

    • @tmfan3888
      @tmfan3888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      r/keyboardlayout

    • @engelsteinberg593
      @engelsteinberg593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      30! Is more than the unmber of atoms in universe, how it can be trivial?

    • @notgate2624
      @notgate2624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@engelsteinberg593 Only a tiny fraction of the search space needs to be explored. The search method I mentioned is similar to methods like Local Search which explore the "neighborhood" of random states by looking at states that can be reached in a couple of swaps. Local Search can find Local Optimum pretty quickly this way, but has no guarantees for finding Global Optimum, so starting with many initial states which you greedily improve can improve your odds of finding a Global Optimum.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Typewriter" being the longest word from the top row of a typewriter is so satisfying.

  • @starkiller1092
    @starkiller1092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    17:28 Matt's dog makes a brief cameo in the bottom right of the screen.

    • @seyyednaserbahador6641
      @seyyednaserbahador6641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can also see similar thing @ 16:12 but this time at bottom left just behind the keyboard

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dog product

    • @ijemand5672
      @ijemand5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Puppy

  • @Nossairito
    @Nossairito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Now the one burning question left is coming up with the optimal keyboard distribution that on average lets you travel the least distance for the words of the english vocabulary (or if we wanna get spicy with it, the most 'brexit-y' keyboard that somewhat minimizes the distance traveled for english but vastly increases it for, say, french or german)

    • @Houshalter
      @Houshalter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Can't post links on yt but there's an article called "Optimizing 19th Century Typewriters" by Nathan Brixius that does this for an interesting real world one dimensional typewriter design. IIRC he found proving the optimal solution was optimal would take a quadrillion years because there's so many possibilities.

    • @7452Michael
      @7452Michael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The DVORAK layout is sort of that. I mean, I don’t think it’s mathematically optimal, but it is better than QWERTY

    • @Henrix1998
      @Henrix1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@7452Michael mathematically optimal would require knowing how common the words are and that depends on the context. Most people will never write some words even though they are rather common (scientific terms for example)

    • @Codewow
      @Codewow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Houshalter You totally can post links on TH-cam.

    • @ckq
      @ckq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Henrix1998 there is data for that (look up most common words in English on Wikipedia).

  • @markh0
    @markh0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I feel like you missed two strong hypothesis of why minimum is so fun to type: repeating (similar length) paths and consistently similar angles (ignoring 0/360° ones)

    • @georgelionon9050
      @georgelionon9050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It is surely the "common pattern" that makes it.

    • @JawSnl93
      @JawSnl93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If your hypothesis is correct, bananas should be very fun to type. and indeed it is. To me, switching between hands also helps with the fun, so bananas is more fun than minimum :)

    • @KariahBengalii
      @KariahBengalii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like it because it rocks back and forth with two fingers and because it's an odd number of letters long, meaning that it also sounds nice to type.

  • @EnthalpyUplusPV
    @EnthalpyUplusPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is so much better trying all these words out. They are all so amazing!

  • @qwertyioup195
    @qwertyioup195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    13:42 “you’re in hypotenuse town” sounds like what a tangent hears when it moves into a neighborhood of sines and cosines

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because tan doesn't need the hypotenuse to be calculated?

  • @levinhinder8354
    @levinhinder8354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Hi Matt. Question: What is the most circular word (360°) with the most angles but the lowest standard deviation or however you measure the roundness? (4x90° excluded)
    And as a contestant of "minimum", I would propose "wert". It's the German word for "value" and very satisfying to write as you just roll all of your fingers over the keyboard

    • @hemangandhi4596
      @hemangandhi4596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That'd be a cool "fad"

    • @nrok113
      @nrok113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think a lot of what he likes about 'minimum' is because he only types with 1 finger per hand. for me, the best words to type are ones that start and end on the left hand with any right-handed letters in the middle. that way it's, click with right hand, start typing immediately because left is already there, and right hand is back on the mouse before I've finished typing

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've always liked how WERE is to type. Back and forth.

  • @TobiasHJohansen
    @TobiasHJohansen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Stewardesse" is, I believe, the longest word written entirely by one hand when using the 10-finger-technique.

    • @darrelstinkmeaner4673
      @darrelstinkmeaner4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      *Stewardesses*

    • @RonParker
      @RonParker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My Scrabble dictionary contains "sweaterdresses," which is longer.

    • @insoYT
      @insoYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, that's an annoying one. It just feels wrong to type without both hands doing something!

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is brilliant I loveeee this word

    • @kevinwells9751
      @kevinwells9751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The longest one for the right hand is "hypolimnion", which I also find to be a lot of fun to type

  • @joshyoung1440
    @joshyoung1440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the shout-out during the Mathematics, He Wrote intro sequence. Hello to you too, and yes, it was worth pausing it to see what you were typing.

  • @historicalfootnotes
    @historicalfootnotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    20:00 So what I’m hearing is that King Zog of Albania has the pointiest possible name for anyone to type
    Also yes I promise King Zog of Albania is a real person. My favorite fact about him is that he may have been the heaviest smoker in human history, consuming over 100 cigarettes everyday.

    • @mrukon9
      @mrukon9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "zog" is also used as an expletive by Orks in the Warhammer 40k universe!

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the most weirdest trivia i've seen but this video is all about a weird trivia so very fitting

    • @historicalfootnotes
      @historicalfootnotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neurofiedyamato8763 It's a historical footnote, thus it is my duty to make it known lol

  • @MaxWattage
    @MaxWattage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2330

    The longest English word is "SMILED".
    The "S" and the "D" are separated by a MILE.

    • @purrplaysLE
      @purrplaysLE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +349

      SKILOMETERD

    • @zirkereuler5242
      @zirkereuler5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      @@purrplaysLE a mile is longer than a kilometer so skilometerd unfortunately is not the longest one :/

    • @nicko_mode3356
      @nicko_mode3356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      @@zirkereuler5242 snineteenandahalfkilometersd

    • @werdnarotcorp8991
      @werdnarotcorp8991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      sMILEs.... slightly more alliterative, if you push the meaning of alliterative or if you can use an s for a bracket/parenthesis....plus it is plural. I win.

    • @busterthesteamroller1136
      @busterthesteamroller1136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      SLIGHTYEARS

  • @drpkmath12345
    @drpkmath12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like your geogebra work to visualize your point! Great job, and very interesting video for sure!

  • @EbonAvatar
    @EbonAvatar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a single finger on each hand typer as well. Matt, you are seen, you are valid, you matter.

  • @sjgow
    @sjgow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Matt, as someone who paused the video to work out exactly what you were typing in, it absolutely was worth it.

  • @Eselta_
    @Eselta_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Fun fact for anyone who hasn't read any of the discworld books: In "Sourcery" there's a wizard (hopeful archchancellor-to-be) Called "Virrid Wayzygoose", which given Pratchett's love for language, most certainly is a spin on "wayzgoose" (which may be pronounced way-se-goose). Also his first name is a misspelling of "Virid" (which means 'green').

  • @CobetcknnKolowski
    @CobetcknnKolowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hypotenuse town sounds like a great tourist destination!
    Absolutely love these videos matt!

  • @mrcatfacecat
    @mrcatfacecat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the most fun word to type is qwaszcerfacterization. I made it up 2 seconds ago and it is the process of making up new words on the spot

  • @wuu2
    @wuu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "When you go up and down, you're in hypotenuse town" should be a shirt

    • @2false637
      @2false637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes more cringy math pun shirts that’s what we need lol

  • @hps362
    @hps362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mathematics He Wrote with the Stand Up Maths music remix is the highlight of my day

  • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
    @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I use the Pythagorean theorem, dot and cross products almost everyday, the perks of being a game programmer :D

    • @engelsteinberg593
      @engelsteinberg593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cross product sucks, use wedge product.

    • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
      @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@engelsteinberg593 no

    • @engelsteinberg593
      @engelsteinberg593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB It do suck, because can't be used in higher or lower dimensions than 3.

    • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
      @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@engelsteinberg593 so what? games work in 3D space

    • @engelsteinberg593
      @engelsteinberg593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 1) Is a misspractice the existentce of the cross product.
      2) The Wedge product outputs a sensical rotation plane meanwhile the Cross product outputs a nonsencical vector.

  • @roideschiffres6760
    @roideschiffres6760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact, if it is 19.05mm it is because it originaly was 3/4 of an inch or 19.050mm

  • @Marius5
    @Marius5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Congratulations, you've made me actually laugh out loud. Tea came out of my nose at the part where you conclude how the video got at the point of words with turns in the same direction...

  • @henkvandenbos9769
    @henkvandenbos9769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Ah, I see - Matt is introducing a new keyboard language: Anglish!

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love Anglish

    • @Shicksalblume
      @Shicksalblume 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Angles would be proud (if they could understand any of this). The Saxons and Jutes? Not so much.

    • @milesedgeworth132
      @milesedgeworth132 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interestingly, Anglish is a "language" where English is written without borrowed words.

  • @spencerjoplin2885
    @spencerjoplin2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    On Dvorak, “minimum” is a perfectly alternating right-left-right-left-right-left-right.

    • @RecursiveTriforce
      @RecursiveTriforce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      On colemak it's all on the right but with no finger repeated.

    • @HorzaPanda
      @HorzaPanda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice. If you touch type rather than hunt and peck alternating words are definitely more satisfying 👍

    • @adriansolis5362
      @adriansolis5362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As are many words in the Dvorak layout which is precisely why I have been typing in Dvorak for over a decade.

  • @nikolaangelovski2252
    @nikolaangelovski2252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As we all know, calculating the exact distance between each and every pair of letters on the keyboard for a mathemathical youtube video is a thing i do in everyday life, thus pythagoras is a very important and obviously useful thing you use in your day to day life.

  • @sellah-fantasyausderwuste8838
    @sellah-fantasyausderwuste8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The maximum amount of fun writing is definitely given for the name of my hometown Dresden. The n is a little off from the rest, but writing the first six letters is just pure joy because you can write it in a nice and smooth rolling move.

    • @georgelionon9050
      @georgelionon9050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, you should put in partition to rename it to dresdes. or dresdew.

    • @Astromath
      @Astromath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, as far as I know, Dresden is called Dresde in French, which gets rid of the n

  • @marv8481
    @marv8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a video that answers a lot of questions no one really asks, but I find extremely entertaining as my mind already goes off on long tangents trying to figure out singularly trivial matters. (Yes, I know someone asked these questions, but not in relevant, day to day activities, im just making a silly comment that also shows that I liked this video and I found it entertaining as my mind also follows a similar thought path on silly things)

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right! Stop that! It's silly! Very silly indeed!

  • @matthijsbonke1944
    @matthijsbonke1944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The intro is amazing. I love reading what he wrote on the typewriter. 1:30 for reference