You've pointed out why I would not buy a yard force. It makes me wonder how many other design features are unique. Thanks for Yet another Great video. 👍👍👍
Martin, I’m unclear as to exactly why it was making an odd noise. You would think if the adapter is seated more onto the shaft without the spacer, then it would be even more secure. The only thing I can think is that the lift wings of the blade were just barely touching the drive belt cover, although you didn’t mention anything and I couldn’t see anything obvious. I suspect AYP had a supplier provide crankshafts that were found to be too short and they simply added spacers for that run of engines to compensate. I would probably dimple the spacer so it couldn’t fall out again.
When the adapter isn't on tight it flops back and forth on the blade and makes this noise. I have seen it on toro recyclers many times and on others that hit something and the keyway is messed up on. The blade was well away from anything underneath
Without a spacer, even if tight it flops back and forth. The spacer keeps the adapter and shaft from moving against each other. Otherwise the only thing holding it tight is the end of the adapter
@IndRepair, The woodruff key keeps the shaft and adapter fitting tightly, and if the bolt is the correct length and properly torqued, there should be no play or looseness in the blade.
@Rein_Ciarfella I think you're spot on! This mower crankshaft and adapter were the correct fit. The adapter and spacer came off a shorter shaft. If he had just used the same adapter, or probably even the one he found, it would have been OK. The fact that the woodruff key seemed too long was because the original configuration didn't need a spacer. I suspect that the bolt wasn't torqued when the owner put the sharpened blade back on. There appeared to be some rotational slop in the blade when he first touched it.
Another reason I went cordless electric. I’ll never go back. No more fumes, no more smelly gasoline. And it’s so quiet it won’t cause hearing loss or disturb the neighbors.
I understand that! Smaller yards it is ok but I can't justify $600 and then another $250 for another battery just to finish the yard and expect it to last 2-3 years
The spacer not being in between the end of the shaft and adapter was allowing the shaft to rotate back and forth inside the adapter making the loud clunking. Only the surface area at the end of the adapter against the drive pulley was holding it. Even though the bolt was tight it was not enough to keep it from moving
I can't see why there's a need for a spacer if the blade adapter is original. It should have been a perfect fit, and when the bolt was torqued, there should have been no slop. Was the spacer needed because the adapter was too long on the shaft? 😮 Also, there seemed to be rotational slop ẁhen you first touched the blade. Was the blade the correct one for this adapter? 😮 You said in the comments that the adapter was tight. And why was the key too long? Probably because there was no keyway in the spacer. This leads me to believe that this mower didn't need the spacer, and that the adapter and spacer on the other mower came off of an engine with a shorter driveshaft.
The spacer comes with the blade adapter if you look up the parts. Blade was correct, no slop between blade and adapter just between adapter and shaft because there was a missing spacer
OK, their website shows two blade adapters: 1003267001 price $8.45 Fits these models ONLY: YF22-3N1 YF22-3N1SP YF22-3N1SP-SC 1003773000 price $15.45 Fits this model ONLY: YF22-3N1SP-SC YF22-3N1SPVS-SC isn't on the lists of models that require the spacer. I can't find a reason why. After looking deeper into it, this model uses a different engine. 😮
Looks like only three of their mowers use the B & S 625 150cc engine, including this one. Do you know which model or engine the adapter and spacer came off of? 😮
You've pointed out why I would not buy a yard force. It makes me wonder how many other design features are unique. Thanks for Yet another
Great video. 👍👍👍
Man of them including the handle height adjustment and handles. They are the only ones with adjustable bail cables I think I have even seen though
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Martin, I’m unclear as to exactly why it was making an odd noise. You would think if the adapter is seated more onto the shaft without the spacer, then it would be even more secure. The only thing I can think is that the lift wings of the blade were just barely touching the drive belt cover, although you didn’t mention anything and I couldn’t see anything obvious.
I suspect AYP had a supplier provide crankshafts that were found to be too short and they simply added spacers for that run of engines to compensate.
I would probably dimple the spacer so it couldn’t fall out again.
When the adapter isn't on tight it flops back and forth on the blade and makes this noise. I have seen it on toro recyclers many times and on others that hit something and the keyway is messed up on. The blade was well away from anything underneath
But you said it WAS tight, and the adapter length looked different.4:14
Without a spacer, even if tight it flops back and forth. The spacer keeps the adapter and shaft from moving against each other. Otherwise the only thing holding it tight is the end of the adapter
@IndRepair, The woodruff key keeps the shaft and adapter fitting tightly, and if the bolt is the correct length and properly torqued, there should be no play or looseness in the blade.
@Rein_Ciarfella I think you're spot on! This mower crankshaft and adapter were the correct fit. The adapter and spacer came off a shorter shaft. If he had just used the same adapter, or probably even the one he found, it would have been OK. The fact that the woodruff key seemed too long was because the original configuration didn't need a spacer. I suspect that the bolt wasn't torqued when the owner put the sharpened blade back on. There appeared to be some rotational slop in the blade when he first touched it.
Another reason I went cordless electric. I’ll never go back. No more fumes, no more smelly gasoline. And it’s so quiet it won’t cause hearing loss or disturb the neighbors.
I understand that! Smaller yards it is ok but I can't justify $600 and then another $250 for another battery just to finish the yard and expect it to last 2-3 years
Great video as always. So what was actually making the noise? Was the blade too close to the deck without the spacer?
The spacer not being in between the end of the shaft and adapter was allowing the shaft to rotate back and forth inside the adapter making the loud clunking. Only the surface area at the end of the adapter against the drive pulley was holding it. Even though the bolt was tight it was not enough to keep it from moving
I noticed up north do it yourself mechanic like to work on grass a lot
No wonder they lose parts 😢😢😢
There is no doubt we have a lot of DIY people around here so many times you have to be a detective to figure out what the issue is
Who would have figured!
Crazy stuff!
Great deactivate work it always pays to keep stuf
I struggle throwing stuff away sometimes because it seems like you need it right after you toss it but it is necessary to be able to find anything
Just goes to show a small engine tech that you should NEVER say "I've seen it all".🤔..😉
Oh boy do I see some interesting things sometimes! This is so true!
I can't see why there's a need for a spacer if the blade adapter is original. It should have been a perfect fit, and when the bolt was torqued, there should have been no slop. Was the spacer needed because the adapter was too long on the shaft? 😮
Also, there seemed to be rotational slop ẁhen you first touched the blade. Was the blade the correct one for this adapter? 😮
You said in the comments that the adapter was tight.
And why was the key too long? Probably because there was no keyway in the spacer. This leads me to believe that this mower didn't need the spacer, and that the adapter and spacer on the other mower came off of an engine with a shorter driveshaft.
The spacer comes with the blade adapter if you look up the parts. Blade was correct, no slop between blade and adapter just between adapter and shaft because there was a missing spacer
OK, their website shows two blade adapters:
1003267001 price $8.45
Fits these models ONLY:
YF22-3N1
YF22-3N1SP
YF22-3N1SP-SC
1003773000 price $15.45
Fits this model ONLY:
YF22-3N1SP-SC
YF22-3N1SPVS-SC isn't on the lists of models that require the spacer.
I can't find a reason why.
After looking deeper into it, this model uses a different engine. 😮
See sumec.mybigcommerce.com/yard-force-yf22-3n1sp-sc-22-3-in-1-lawn-mower/ that clearly shows the parts and the blade adapter...
Part number 1003773000
Looks like only three of their mowers use the B & S 625 150cc engine, including this one.
Do you know which model or engine the adapter and spacer came off of? 😮
Same model as listed in the video and link above as described