I just found you online and listened for the first time. Thank you, thank you, thank you for such and insightful exploration, and for the gift of sharing!
Hi All, I so appreciate the insight and deeper understanding you frequently gift me with. Today as a minister I am going to move from the Mark passage. My child was smart, compassionate, cute and a brat. She was also classified as nonverbal and a quadriplegic. So in my head my Maddie’s mom voice is asking all kinds of questions, starting with, “did Maddie think she needed to be healed?” The 15 years I was blessed to be her mom and the 10 years since her death I never got beyond the wisdom of a dad who’s son was medically complicated, basically he said, “It’s not our children who need to be healed. It’s us and our world that needs to label kids or anyone as having something, “wrong. “
I think the level of how difficult this text is where you start with who Jesus is - what does it mean to say that Jesus is both human and divine? If one believes Jesus is "without sin" first you have to define what that means: is it that he was not born with original sin since God is Jesus' "father", or that he never sinned. I hold to the former, and that in order for him to be fully human requires him to learn, and to sin of the understanding does not live in perfect relationship all the time. He gets tired, hungry, frustrated, and so yes this may be a situation where he is affected by his context and even if he isn't racist at the heart, might refer to someone in this way. He refers to others as hypocrites, vipers etc. So if Jesus is fully human AND fully divine, she can "bring him back to himself" with her reply. God learns from the very beginning - Adam and Eve do not die as God said they would when they eat the fruit, but are cast out of the Garden. Genesis 8 ends with God promising not to wipe everything off the earth. It is in the tradition of the OT/Hebrew Scripture. In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham argues with God and God changes God's mind, reducing the number of righteous people that must be found in Sodom and Gomorrah. T
Spot on, Joy. Thank you. You expressed so well the feelings I was trying to put into words. None of us needs a sexist, racist god!
Many thanks, Joy, for bringing such an important word today!
I just found you online and listened for the first time. Thank you, thank you, thank you for such and insightful exploration, and for the gift of sharing!
Hi All, I so appreciate the insight and deeper understanding you frequently gift me with. Today as a minister I am going to move from the Mark passage. My child was smart, compassionate, cute and a brat. She was also classified as nonverbal and a quadriplegic. So in my head my Maddie’s mom voice is asking all kinds of questions, starting with, “did Maddie think she needed to be healed?” The 15 years I was blessed to be her mom and the 10 years since her death I never got beyond the wisdom of a dad who’s son was medically complicated, basically he said, “It’s not our children who need to be healed. It’s us and our world that needs to label kids or anyone as having something, “wrong. “
I think the level of how difficult this text is where you start with who Jesus is - what does it mean to say that Jesus is both human and divine? If one believes Jesus is "without sin" first you have to define what that means: is it that he was not born with original sin since God is Jesus' "father", or that he never sinned. I hold to the former, and that in order for him to be fully human requires him to learn, and to sin of the understanding does not live in perfect relationship all the time. He gets tired, hungry, frustrated, and so yes this may be a situation where he is affected by his context and even if he isn't racist at the heart, might refer to someone in this way. He refers to others as hypocrites, vipers etc. So if Jesus is fully human AND fully divine, she can "bring him back to himself" with her reply. God learns from the very beginning - Adam and Eve do not die as God said they would when they eat the fruit, but are cast out of the Garden. Genesis 8 ends with God promising not to wipe everything off the earth. It is in the tradition of the OT/Hebrew Scripture. In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham argues with God and God changes God's mind, reducing the number of righteous people that must be found in Sodom and Gomorrah. T