Prof Dyson offers an important and valid point about (some ) religions cultivating the hatred of women and gay (sodomite) persons. For purposes of strict clarification, hatred of any persons has never been a teaching of bible based CHRISTIANITY. Christianity does hold however, that there are qualitative and spiritual distinctions between a person's gender (biologically determined at birth) and a person's [socialized] sexual behavior and morality. The traditional world wide church perspective and understanding of sexuality is that some sexual acts are strong encourage and are both socially beneficial and procreative grounded in the natural order of creation, while others are clearly unholy and self destructive categorically. The long established received revelation and differences in understanding are seen for example, in texts such as Apostle Paul's letters to the Galatians and also in I Corinthians and Romans 1-3. Frankly, I would submit that one is far more likely to find disturbing instances of blatant homophobia and misogyny in all manner of secular western and far eastern literature than in any verified and new covenant text of the word of God. The word of God extends love and grace to any humble person who has faith and trusts in Jesus and who sincerely repents of their sin. And yes, I understand that Rev. Dr Dyson is acutely aware of these facts being the talented Christian he is.
+Shieldsff you fucking punk step off, you go around calling lgbt sodomites and pretend not to spread hate? puhlease stop faking it. your favorite book is full of hate. for Christians who have the right values and respect others you're fine even if you have weird hobbies. folks like you? get over yourself you damn fool. "20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you." Deuteronomy 22:13-21 What's most ironic however is how folks like you pretend sympathy for your race, if you had sympathy for your race you wouldn't hating 2% of you, you disgusting hypocrite. Oh and stop with the damn word games about "Hate" you know what I'm saying.
kevyn anderson Actually sodomy is associated with homosexualism more in general use, but also as a common understanding in bilblical language to refer to gay behavior.. While Sodom may not have been destroyed "exclusively" for sodomy, that was a prominent feature of that society as Genesis makes quite clear.. However, its unlikely that sodomy is as general as you argue, while yes, they can be in most contexts sinful.... There is nothing particularly wrong in my view with focusing on the "wrongness" of certain sexual sins subject to the issue in presents in specif cultural contexts.. For example, it would rightly seem bizaar to make a mass social campaign discussing the inherent immorality of bestiality (zoophilia) in say, Boston... but is some Nordic countries it probably not a bad thing... Also, an on-going church/civil movement focused on polygamy or enslaving people woulld seem odd and unnecessary today in say New York; But in the mid 19rh century both were urgently needed
¿Cuánto? Actually, no I don't think I will, .... Jesus is grace and truth and can set anyone free from sin... I find you misleading in the extreme when you misrepresent sexual perversion as "hobby",... I have NO IDEA why on earth you are citing the Torah in response to my comment- There is no Temple nor any Hebrew theocratic state at this time... As a christians we are submitted to the principals of the gospel for all and newness of Life- see Eph. 4:17-22 Have you tried reading the gospel of John before getting all vitrolic about christians as you do here ? Speaking of hypocrisy it strikes me you are likely in the same situation as no society (including our own) morally or socially sanctions any or all behaviors- of course you would know this is you were at all serious and looked objectiviely at this instead of being all emotional.. No, I don't know what you're saying because I do not share your mind or perspective. Sodomy is detestable and a destructive social trend rather I say it is or not... There are LOADS of other posts you can you read if you don't like it however...
+Shieldsff I'm not dealing in arguments but facts. Merriam-webster online dictionary defines sodomy as anal or oral copulation with a member of the SAME or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal. Strongs Concordances list the sodomite under Hebrew word for sodomite as, שֵׁדָק or (qadesh) which is a masculine noun taken from the Hebrew word (quasi) a sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry:--sodomite, unclean. In other words one who practices unlawful sex acts. Man has seen fit to use this term to apply exclusively to homosexual acts. But according to the facts asexual abomination is a sexual abomination...period. As I stated before, according to the Bible God is no respecter of persons and regards all unnatural sexual acts and abomination. Some how this point has been missed by many Christians. Perhaps this point is overlooked in order avoided the guilt of their own perverse practices outlined in the Bible as sodomy also. Just a footnote. If you won't except Ezekiel 16 as proof of point, you may want to check out Judges chapter 19.
May I ask, in your opinion, is adultery wrong or immoral ? Assuming one's spouse consents to such an arrangement, would it still be wrong in your view- why not? Yes, I am familiar with both passages and, on narrow usage grounds, you are correct... I don't have any real objection to your use and definition here.. If you must insist on exacting etymology, then you should also note that the New Testament uses other terms referring to those who engage also in a variety of alternative sexualities
Are y'all listening? I have heard nothing about sex at all but about Rev Dr Dyson dealing with his perspective on black transcendence to the Christian God as he dissect the music of JayZ..
If u were intellectually initiated in any modicum, u could appreciate the explanation in his linguistic facility. The audience is highly educated & this is akin to a teaching moment as a function of his status as a tenured professor at a major University. Ur r therefore allergic to intelligence & probably quarantined in ignorance. Start reading something other than the super hero comic book " Captain Idiot" Goodness. EDUCATION !!!✊✊✊✊✊✊✊🏆🏅🐎🦬💯🙏
That what intellectuals appear to do/ be ...... "herding cats," as the saying goes in Halls of Academia; or do, as in the purview of non- academics( sublunar minds). Remember he teaches Philosophy & it's derivatives at an Ivy league University.... I suspect doctoral candidates r among his students. That linguistic facility is a hallmark of such heights of erudition. Difficult to understand by the relative layperson.💯👍👁
Prof Dyson offers an important and valid point about (some ) religions cultivating the hatred of women and gay (sodomite) persons. For purposes of strict clarification, hatred of any persons has never been a teaching of bible based CHRISTIANITY.
Christianity does hold however, that there are qualitative and spiritual distinctions between a person's gender (biologically determined at birth) and a person's [socialized] sexual behavior and morality. The traditional world wide church perspective and understanding of sexuality is that some sexual acts are strong encourage and are both socially beneficial and procreative grounded in the natural order of creation, while others are clearly unholy and self destructive categorically.
The long established received revelation and differences in understanding are seen for example, in texts such as Apostle Paul's letters to the Galatians and also in I Corinthians and Romans 1-3. Frankly, I would submit that one is far more likely to find disturbing instances of blatant homophobia and misogyny in all manner of secular western and far eastern literature than in any verified and new covenant text of the word of God.
The word of God extends love and grace to any humble person who has faith and trusts in Jesus and who sincerely repents of their sin. And yes, I understand that Rev. Dr Dyson is acutely aware of these facts being the talented Christian he is.
+Shieldsff you fucking punk step off, you go around calling lgbt sodomites and pretend not to spread hate? puhlease stop faking it. your favorite book is full of hate. for Christians who have the right values and respect others you're fine even if you have weird hobbies. folks like you? get over yourself you damn fool. "20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you." Deuteronomy 22:13-21 What's most ironic however is how folks like you pretend sympathy for your race, if you had sympathy for your race you wouldn't hating 2% of you, you disgusting hypocrite. Oh and stop with the damn word games about "Hate" you know what I'm saying.
kevyn anderson
Actually sodomy is associated with homosexualism more in general use, but also as a common understanding in bilblical language to refer to gay behavior.. While Sodom may not have been destroyed "exclusively" for sodomy, that was a prominent feature of that society as Genesis makes quite clear..
However, its unlikely that sodomy is as general as you argue, while yes, they can be in most contexts sinful.... There is nothing particularly wrong in my view with focusing on the "wrongness" of certain sexual sins subject to the issue in presents in specif cultural contexts..
For example, it would rightly seem bizaar to make a mass social campaign discussing the inherent immorality of bestiality (zoophilia) in say, Boston... but is some Nordic countries it probably not a bad thing...
Also, an on-going church/civil movement focused on polygamy or enslaving people woulld seem odd and unnecessary today in say New York;
But in the mid 19rh century both were urgently needed
¿Cuánto? Actually, no I don't think I will, ....
Jesus is grace and truth and can set anyone free from sin... I find you misleading in the extreme when you misrepresent sexual perversion as "hobby",...
I have NO IDEA why on earth you are citing the Torah in response to my comment- There is no Temple nor any Hebrew theocratic state at this time... As a christians we are submitted to the principals of the gospel for all and newness of Life- see Eph. 4:17-22
Have you tried reading the gospel of John before getting all vitrolic about christians as you do here ? Speaking of hypocrisy it strikes me you are likely in the same situation as no society (including our own) morally or socially sanctions any or all behaviors- of course you would know this is you were at all serious and looked objectiviely at this instead of being all emotional..
No, I don't know what you're saying because I do not share your mind or perspective. Sodomy is detestable and a destructive social trend rather I say it is or not... There are LOADS of other posts you can you read if you don't like it however...
+Shieldsff I'm not dealing in arguments but facts.
Merriam-webster online dictionary defines sodomy as anal or oral copulation with a member of the SAME or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal.
Strongs Concordances list the sodomite under Hebrew word for sodomite as, שֵׁדָק or (qadesh) which is a masculine noun taken from the Hebrew word (quasi) a sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry:--sodomite, unclean. In other words one who practices unlawful sex acts. Man has seen fit to use this term to apply exclusively to homosexual acts. But according to the facts asexual abomination is a sexual abomination...period.
As I stated before, according to the Bible God is no respecter of persons and regards all unnatural sexual acts and abomination. Some how this point has been missed by many Christians. Perhaps this point is overlooked in order avoided the guilt of their own perverse practices outlined in the Bible as sodomy also. Just a footnote. If you won't except Ezekiel 16 as proof of point, you may want to check out Judges chapter 19.
May I ask, in your opinion, is adultery wrong or immoral ? Assuming one's spouse consents to such an arrangement, would it still be wrong in your view- why not?
Yes, I am familiar with both passages and, on narrow usage grounds, you are correct...
I don't have any real objection to your use and definition here.. If you must insist on exacting etymology, then you should also note that the New Testament uses other terms referring to those who engage also in a variety of alternative sexualities
Are y'all listening? I have heard nothing about sex at all but about Rev Dr Dyson dealing with his perspective on black transcendence to the Christian God as he dissect the music of JayZ..
Thank you man!
What the HECK is he talking about? This is a whole bunch of nothing
If u were intellectually initiated in any modicum, u could appreciate the explanation in his linguistic facility. The audience is highly educated & this is akin to a teaching moment as a function of his status as a tenured professor at a major University. Ur r therefore allergic to intelligence & probably quarantined in ignorance. Start reading something other than the super hero comic book " Captain Idiot" Goodness. EDUCATION !!!✊✊✊✊✊✊✊🏆🏅🐎🦬💯🙏
That what intellectuals appear to do/ be ...... "herding cats," as the saying goes in Halls of Academia; or do, as in the purview of non- academics( sublunar minds). Remember he teaches Philosophy & it's derivatives at an Ivy league University.... I suspect doctoral candidates r among his students. That linguistic facility is a hallmark of such heights of erudition. Difficult to understand by the relative layperson.💯👍👁