The Secretly OP Italy Path NOBODY Talks About!

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  • @chaoticflorius
    @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Wanna see more HOI4! Let me know :)

  • @OnlyGrafting
    @OnlyGrafting ปีที่แล้ว +498

    UK doesn't become a core because originally it was France, Italy, Germany and the Lowlands cooperating economically to fend off Soviet overreach. The UK wasn't part of this. The only way the EU can happen with the UK is under the UK fascist path as after the war Oswald Mosley was a big fan of a united Europe even though the EU itself didn't exist then. Mosley was a bit flip flop with ideology so it's weird to see in hindsight.

    • @emib6599
      @emib6599 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      I add that Otto von Habsburg of "not aligned" Austria-Hungary should be able to unite Europe, it was a supporter of the Paneuropa project.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +50

      true

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Imagen that timeline 💀

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Mosley did not flip flop with his pan europeanism. He always wanted Britain to be strong in its own right, but with the context of the cold War that was impossible alone, so he supported the EU as a way for europe to stand up to both America and the USSR.

    • @purpledevilr7463
      @purpledevilr7463 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Mosley never flip flopped. He was just odd and didn’t fit perfectly in our categories and conceptions.

  • @janslavik5284
    @janslavik5284 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    I love how Czechoslovakia survived until the end, I feel like if the EU was to be united under a single nation irl, we would be the ones to "politely" opt-out 😆

  • @just1it1moko
    @just1it1moko 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    2:35 "Slander the Deuce" is my favorite new way of saying in need to go to the bathroom!

  • @aleksandarmanojlovic4988
    @aleksandarmanojlovic4988 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I never knew Victorio gets a new portrait after he creates Roman Empire, he looks drippy

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Its so silly, and I love it!

    • @rps215
      @rps215 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Umberto also gets a new portrait. Grandi, Balbo, and the Pope don't.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rps215 hahaha nice

  • @thomasklima215
    @thomasklima215 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Very cool!
    But poor Vittorio Emanuele seems a bit shaken after you took just 9 years to create that abomination of an empire ;-)

  • @Swissswoosher
    @Swissswoosher ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The fact that the only time that the Italian army is only competent in HoI IV, says a lot.

  • @Alaskovi
    @Alaskovi ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Not sure if anyone has said it yet, but if you dont want war with the Soviets, you can release Moldova in the peace deal with Romania and the Soviets will justify on them instead. Great video though! Subscriber earned

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I had a wargoal on them anyways thanks to the Roman focustree, but I just noticed it to late 💀

  • @peperoni_pepino
    @peperoni_pepino ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Maybe they should add another thing that Rome can get cores in any country that claimed to be a successor of Rome -- e.g. the HRE or Russia as well. That would be fun, and gives a reason to attack the Sovjets.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, sounds fun!

    • @inserisciunnome
      @inserisciunnome ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "we are Rome!"
      Rome: *"We aggree :)"*

    • @Ieva_Leonardo
      @Ieva_Leonardo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Could be an achievement "Unifier of all Romes"

  • @MinorLife10
    @MinorLife10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "This is not EU 4"
    Proceeds to form EU

  • @loffy9280
    @loffy9280 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your channel is so underrated, I think you make the funniest Paradox games videos

  • @leonardoargiolas6271
    @leonardoargiolas6271 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how you clicked to take the navy in the swiss conference

  • @maxxedout2563
    @maxxedout2563 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn, its been 4 months since i discovered you, keep up the good work!!!

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks mate! Will do

  • @dwarfbard6226
    @dwarfbard6226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Triarii - Europe started blasting in my head there in the end.

  • @JanWieczorek-oy7ls
    @JanWieczorek-oy7ls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:53 It's because when you start wars and win them, the balance of power increases.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, makes sence! (still stupid, hahaha)

    • @JanWieczorek-oy7ls
      @JanWieczorek-oy7ls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chaoticflorius Thanks.😎 (WHAT DID HE SAY?!?!)

  • @ArtemXab
    @ArtemXab 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Damn, even the US had probably never brought that much democracy to the world

  • @jonsouth1545
    @jonsouth1545 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you had conqured and not puppeted French North Africa and the middle east as well as Egypt you could have saved several years on your forming of the Roman Empire

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know 💀 didn't think that far at the begining

  • @Челик-к5ж
    @Челик-к5ж ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i love democracy

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Especially when it give me UNLIMITED POWER!

  • @billyzm
    @billyzm ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So going down this path makes Italy demcratic but somehow can still justify war goal? Is it a special country rule or?

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood9068 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Instead of puppeting Ethiopia try releasing all the minor countries instead. They all have a focus that gives you bonuses to research if you are their overlord.

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lore of The Secretly OP Italy Path NOBODY Talks About! Momentum 100

  • @ericsaxon5736
    @ericsaxon5736 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another fun vid, perhaps it would be good to see you play in the next Speed 5 EU4 challenge...

  • @John-li6sk
    @John-li6sk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tbh every time i invade the uk most of the time uk has not that much div to defend their own land

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its harder when you don't have colonies. The Uk sends a lot of troops off the main land when you have some more borders with them.

  • @yasinunsal5035
    @yasinunsal5035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mussolini thinks he is Napoleon bro Just returned

  • @loyalfrog4864
    @loyalfrog4864 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Canada: add pineapple to pizza
    Italy:

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As much as one would hope Europa would be unite, it be but a dream

  • @r.h4218
    @r.h4218 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did it in 1940!!
    (And I conquered North America as well, and the entirety of Africa)

  • @nefugy4520
    @nefugy4520 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro really wanted to take Swiss navi 💀💀💀

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really need it 🗿

  • @IndependentObserver
    @IndependentObserver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:40 on the other side of that spectrum is fascist Poland (the Dmowski's path) which while fascist, still has elections

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf, hahaha

    • @IndependentObserver
      @IndependentObserver ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@chaoticflorius Part of that reason (at least that's my cope) is that paradox understands that Dmowski was IRL as much of a fascist as average HOI IV player is a ballerina (I mean sure half of us wear skirts and thigh highs but that's not enough to call someone a ballerina) but they wanted to give the fascist tree some more flavour as all polish political trees have possible choices later down the line- Sanacja has left/right and castle options. Peasant revolt as PSL's democratic path and Stalinists. Monarchist path has 5 different monarchs, but without Dmowski there would only be Piasecki's path (and yeah those guys were actual fascists, if they had the opportunity they'd be building gas chambers, kind of "people") making the fascist tree the only one without choices, and so, combined with no "conquer this country" focues they at least hinted that the Dmowski's path isn't as evil as the other one... but imho Dmowski (if you *need* to put in someone who's party fell into obscurity at the time and who IRL died in January 1939, into this game) should be it's own democratic path. Because that's what he was- his party "National Democracy" was no more nationalistic than conservative party in UK at the time, and a lot less imperialistic. Unlike UK that occupied a quarter of the globe Dmowski wanted free and independent Ukraine and Belarus after the Polish-Bolshevik war, allied together with Lithuania and a much smaller Poland (yes, a "fascist" wanted a smaller country and free international cooperation) his proposal was Poland without the Eastern Territories (basically what happens if Poland gives up the east to USSR and Wilno to Lithuania but keeps Gdansk) which would be integral parts of aforementioned free Belarus and Ukraine.

  • @Syndixal
    @Syndixal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve so many more subs

  • @khaledalhamdan2627
    @khaledalhamdan2627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video, thanks a lot

  • @user-chumbuck3t
    @user-chumbuck3t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you say that it requires any specific dlcs? And does secret finnish path need arms against tyranny dlc?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Video is older, but it need the Italy Dlc (By blood alone)

  • @sloppycat7835
    @sloppycat7835 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I tried this strat but it failed twice bc i couldn't hold the air superiority for the paratroopers, how can i solve this?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just dont put any planes up in the air region. The AI will only try to counter yours, so if you have 0 planes they will not put any there either most of the time. If they have like 2 planes in the region, just concentrate all your airforce for a second in the region and that should be enough for the order to go through before the AI can react.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also made a letsplay about the strat on my second channel and there I do it without paratroopers, so you can check that out if you need more detail on the strat 😎

  • @derAlphabet
    @derAlphabet ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Vittorios face at the end 💀

  • @royale7620
    @royale7620 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do Italian Empire path next with Dino Grandi and join the Allies 😱

  • @Code-002
    @Code-002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still hope you banned pinapple on pizza after all of this💀💀

  • @lionstar1992
    @lionstar1992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice video like always

  • @maciej197
    @maciej197 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did you get paratropers couse there is a special forces limit?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need some normal units and you can get it up via some focuses (in some nations) or via tech/doctrine

  • @rittyrizzani5705
    @rittyrizzani5705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i m g o n n a t a k e t h e n a v y

  • @GlidingBubble2552
    @GlidingBubble2552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i know if was an older video but isnt ethopia still in the war with goverment in exile?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be. I really don't remember 😅🤣

    • @GlidingBubble2552
      @GlidingBubble2552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chaoticflorius ok, I really love that you still care about new comments on older videos that’s why you will be forever my favorite hoi4 and eu youtuber love from Germany ❤️

  • @ConteRoccia
    @ConteRoccia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the most beauty....

  • @Meme-2038
    @Meme-2038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you released africa beacuse of the focus trees, then why didn’t you do the same thing to Ethiopia?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have an independence path which is really annoying, if they choose to go it down

  • @eeee86
    @eeee86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should watch this other TH-camr I forgot his name but his strays for Roman Empire is so good Becuase you take everything with Germany getting nothing apart from Poland Austria and czec

  • @kirilkapro8873
    @kirilkapro8873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this video I see you're **** at using powertruper's

  • @WaterYoshi
    @WaterYoshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see the mod you made

  • @Shonji_Ikori
    @Shonji_Ikori ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7/2s............ What year is it?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh. I played Italy. They still use 7/2s

    • @Shonji_Ikori
      @Shonji_Ikori ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chaoticflorius fair enough lmao

  • @DenizBahceci
    @DenizBahceci ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Late comment ! What divisiont template did you use

  • @kubilayaslan974
    @kubilayaslan974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let us know which modes u are using

  • @luxembourgeography
    @luxembourgeography ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DID YOU PRAY TODAY⁉️

  • @eenstenenbreker7155
    @eenstenenbreker7155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chads are made, not born all men deserve to be made into chads. Its better for all us men

  • @John-li6sk
    @John-li6sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate :)

    • @John-li6sk
      @John-li6sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chaoticflorius ur welcome 🤗

  • @wiktorpietrzyk528
    @wiktorpietrzyk528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can do it easier when you are at war with France justify against UK then after you capitulate them you paratroop on UK somehow Yugoslavia chech republic and Romania capitulate with UK at least it worked in my game

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it works because they join the allies and UK is the only major.

  • @JpegAlan
    @JpegAlan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I talked about this path with my dog before this video, so you are wrong.

  • @ultrabruce
    @ultrabruce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the opening to the video is very similar to another big hoi4 youtuber..
    Even the same music..

  • @GiovanniPapa-iv2qk
    @GiovanniPapa-iv2qk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Io sono italiano

  • @ci2123
    @ci2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man really saying word of pp instead of the Poitcal power

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      Big PP!

    • @ci2123
      @ci2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chaoticflorius Very funny tho

  • @Hammer7955
    @Hammer7955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi

  • @mongolian4511
    @mongolian4511 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imperium romanum is better

  • @estenombrenoseloponenadieb2465
    @estenombrenoseloponenadieb2465 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @Gremph
    @Gremph ปีที่แล้ว

    You better play the HOI4 mod you made. You can't just drop this on us and then not follow through.

  • @rps215
    @rps215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My way is before I take Triumph in Africa, I did my conquest first, with minimum effort that is. Halfway before done with Ethiopia, I justify on France first (because 2 way war at this point is a nightmare), just wait until completing some army reforms focuses before killing France with Paratroopers. Only then I justify on Yugoslavia as they will get guaranteed by the UK, just hold your land bordering Yugoslavia for now. Surround London but occupy all of UK, then go psycho and justify and declare war on everyone on the Balkans and Benelux (except Albania which you can get via focus and have a bonus if you do it and Spain which is still in civil war) plus Portugal, Iraq, Saudi, Austria, Hungary, and maybe some extras like Siam and Iran, they will all join Allies which is exactly what you want. When done, just finish off UK and you can annex everything. I prefer annex despite the garrison as I don't have to annex them again when I am going Mare Nostrum

  • @jackknall9966
    @jackknall9966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Griaß di

  • @_MightyBunny_
    @_MightyBunny_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7

  • @massik137
    @massik137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    code geass EU

  • @godat4077
    @godat4077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Algorithm comment

  • @Жуйка_спермы
    @Жуйка_спермы ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Czechoslovakia...

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lore of The Secretly OP Italy Path NOBODY Talks About! Momentum 100

  • @PhilipposACosta
    @PhilipposACosta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am having a hard time doing the paradops in France. They send one, then I can't send another one. In the time I am able to send another one, the first was encircled and died, or France placed their air wings up.
    How can you send multiple, with only 50 transports?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      I also send them one after another. Maybe you used your airforce (I didn't). The AI reacts mostly to what you are doing, so if you have no airforce up, it won't intercept you (mostly)

  • @ylScarred
    @ylScarred ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, democracies cant justify on someone unless they generated world tension. How did you do that (I mean like invading Ireland, Denmark) ? Is this democratic path is an exception for that?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The focustree (Rome path) gives you A LOT of wargoals

    • @ylScarred
      @ylScarred ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@chaoticflorius @chaoticflorius Thanks for the information but i got one more question, what about manually abling to justify on Brazil ? I don't think they have generated world tension, or are they 😅 I also saw on the Liberia part on the video I guess, justify war goal option was avaliable. You know normally on vanilla democracies can't do world conquest at all. But i think italy can, am i right ?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ylScarred Ohhh, yeah. Might be because I went down the monarchy path

    • @ylScarred
      @ylScarred ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chaoticflorius Well, now finally i got a reason for a democratic nation then 😄. I really enjoyed that video, awesome content. I am really wanna see more hoi4 content from you, got 2000 hours on this game but still hungry for new content. Keep it up 👍

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ylScarred Thanks mate! Thats good to hear 😊

  • @filipbalaz4262
    @filipbalaz4262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haile selassie refused to surrender every time when i want conquer Ethiopia and war never ended.

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      They do a focus that does that. You have to do it really fast.

  • @sg_kerb
    @sg_kerb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why no war with ussr?

    • @chaoticflorius
      @chaoticflorius  ปีที่แล้ว

      Didnt need too. But yeah, should have to kill time.