Lada Niva : The Legend of USSR Engineering
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In times of need and frugal living, Lada Niva is unbeatable value.
Dang ! Absolute Truth ! Pliars, Hammer, Duck-Tape and some Metal-Glue, can fix 90% of NIVA's problems. a skilled driver, who acctualy can drive such car, can last LONG time and realy you get you OFF-Road-Miles BEST CHEAPEST Miles with a CAR with NIVA as you can GET i bet it is the CHEAPEST Miles-Cost-off-ROAD CAR !!!!
Worked as a mechanic at local Lada dealership and had a dozen or so of these off-road weapons, mostly given to me for free by people tired of fixing them, over the years. Used to play tag around the farm where you hit the other car they become 'it' and the chase continues. Excellent fun.
if you can give away a car, it means it cost you not half of your LIFE-Savings like Range-Rover or GELÄNDEWAGEN...but i assume you work just of fun not to sustain liveability )
a niva is when it should work only 1-purpouse, SURVIVE ! Dats it ! the simplier to repair the longer you use it, the less it cost.
imagine repair your 150k RANGE ROVER outside ?
moi j'ai eu un Niva , et j'en étais très content , c' est un très bon 4x4. pas plus de panne qu'avec une voiture anglaise.
I have owned a 2017 model 5 door version for 3 years so far.
It takes me long over landing off-road trips.It's quite durable and economic in all aspects.
The best part about it , it's superior off-road capabilities.Surprisingly it's quite stable on the road as well!
The bad things about it.The engine is definitely underpowered.The ac is weak .
All in all, I love the vehicle!
It has an AC 😮 ???
Le vendeur m a dit que les attaches du pont arrière au châssis avaient été modifiée et effectivement elle ne se dandine plus sur l autoroute dans les " ornières de camion” comme ma première de 91.
you need the RIGHT JOB/PURPOUSE for this CAR ! If you used to drive quick and nice, MODERN car. if you have PLENTY time and ROAD, NIVA !
You think it's underpowered? Well, the original 1977 Niva had only a 1300cc engine. Later increased to 1600, then 1700cc in the 1990s. I owned three or four of them. Slow, noisy and thirsty, but unbeatable off-road, and practically unbreakable. I had one with a 2 litre Alfa twin OHC engine, and it went like a scalded cat. Strong Italian influence in its design.
@@bernarddavis1050 Would an old Audi 4 Cyl also fit into the engine bay?
I am an automotive engineer who works for the big three. Last year during a meeting, one of our our high boss literally said “ I want our vehicle breaks down after 10 or 15 thousand miles”. I was shocked, I knew they were doing that all the time but still can believe he said it out loud without any shame. One of our engineer whispered “ I guess we should plant a bomb then.”
what a piece of actual capitalist, profitarian shit. you, as an engineer, has the mission of a truly great design, not a planned failure. i hope you found ways to subvert your boss, because if you left another stooge will happily listen to him.
Dang
Or how Russians say blyat
Saw a lot of those Ladas in Canada in the late 90s the guys that I talked said the sure we're good at off roading
A software bomb...
The vehicle dies at 15 years when the internal clock in the software fritzes the ECU...
Simple, cheap, easy to handle, excellent all-terrain vehicle. It is also valid in Siberia. It's not a sports car, but it puts many other big-name SUV brands to shame. a true Soviet fossil. But that's how its owners like it.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Lada also was the first car brand to sell in Brazil after the imports ban was lifted, many Nivas were driven to almost destruction in the insanely precarious "highways" of the Pantanal and Amazon and yet is one of the few cars to "conquer" the BR-319 in the rainy season without bigger problems.
As DaVinci said...
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication....
Scientiest recently gone with a microscope on his paintings, they said the "LAIRS of pain" that you usualy put with pain-brush, the thickness of it on a "Mona-Lisa" is 1/16 of a thickness of a human hair ! and is painted in several LAIRS, it means it was painted several times 16-Times thinner then HUMAN-HAIR !!!
if you a smart person and slightly understand the LAW-of-LOGIC's it means that either LEO-NARDO was an ALIEN with sofisticated ALIEN Tec or, that we are in comparision to his "ADVANCED-CIVILISATION" are HUMAN-APES underdeveloped living after past civilisation, and to whom ever destroyed past civilisation we appear as much a THREAT as a Kockraocher Threatens a Homeless Person under the Bridge.....
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LAIRS OF PAIN ✅
(HOUSE OF PAIN)
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If anybody and anyone can bringing this car to the Indonesia market car, this car will Have the new fans Club....
Lada Niva Indonesia Owner.
Believe it...
cheap, capable,easy to fix(if you have any knowlege about cars) who wouldn't buy it, that is something you don't see anymore in new cars
Geez, guys! The spare tire under the hood wasn't such a novel thing..most French cars did that and the reason is simple: theft protection (cause yes, full size spare tires were stolen in the 60,70 and 80s) cleanliness and good access...and that last point is, why it's done on the lada...that rear hatch is a hatch, thus it would be heavy to open with the added weight and where else to put it, when one wants to avoid crawling under your car during winter or in mud?
love your videos🫠 keep going please!!
Best 4wd i ever had (eighties) , i pulled LRs Nissans and Land Cruisers out of the dirt with it
Asking a vehicle designed for off-road driving to meet the safety requirements of a passenger vehicle is ridiculous to say the least. This is not bought for the street and speeds higher than 80 km/h.
My 1989 Niva cruised all day at 100kmh.
Topped out at 140kmh...
(5 speed gearbox made all the difference)
Nope. Niva is NOT an offroad car. Its rural or city car traded some comfort for ability to cope with wet dirt road or snow right in your driveway. It can easy make 130kmh or be used in dense 10M Moscow but if you try to use it as brutal Uaz it will break apart in a week.
@@antontsau Wrong, wrong, wrong. It was DESIGNED as a predominantly offroad vehicle (the name Niva means crop field in Russian). Full-time 4wd, short wheelbase, long suspension travel - that is no city car. I had 4 of them.
@@bernarddavis1050 Absolutely not. Niva is NOT an offroad car. Its NOT designed to dive into 1m deep shit, jump on rocks, follow tank column with colonel onboard or even be used on regular construction or mining site, it is not UAZ replacement. It can do all this but for very short time, then it goes to full rebuild or scrapyard.
Niva niche was intended to be colkhoz (collective farm) dweller, using bad roads, snowy streets in a village, sometimes (but not too often) wet dirt roads, and to do all this with almost usual passenger car comfort, like Lada 2106 on which base it created. Not more. If it is used in offroad - very proudful end is imminent and fast, especially in USSR 70s, where Lada repair was extremely difficult and expensive.
In reality it appeared that it is not only colkhoz car, but also an useful city car. Expensive, less convenient, slower, complex in repair, but able to combine everyday use in Moscow with summer drives out to fishing, hunting, dacha (farm cottage) and so on without terrible pain in all body parts like with road cars (2106 and so on). Even to drive out from own house yard in Moscow on winters often requires Niva capabilities, all usual cars bog in fresh snow piles without any options (ummmm, once I bogged even Zil131 6*6 truck in 30m from my home entry, where it stood until all snow melted, but of course it was extreme case).
Yes I DO know Niva, I used them from 1990 to 2010 (effectively to 2000 when I changed to 4*4 Gazel light truck and Niva became just a spare car standing in garage), so there is no need to tell me how Niva can be used in real offroad, I perfectly know it - no way.
I've never driven a Niva. But I have another LADA VAZ 2110 car in my garage, exemplar of a 1998 model year. I don't ride it. It's just like a museum piece in the garage.
Soviet simplicity hard at work
"Will never have any failure" is a bit of overstatement.
Hi - that was a very entertaining video, but unfortunately there's a few fundamental bits missing, mainly about the element of "unchanged for 37 years". As a matter of fact Between 1977 and 1993/4 the Niva 1600 was produced and only saw minor modifications to the ignition and carburettor, starting with 1994/5 the 1700cc version was introduced combined with fuel injection (borrowed from an Opel Ascona), which also sported a different tailgate, new taillights and substantial changes on the interior. In 1997 the EFI system was changed again to a more modern multipoint EFI and in 1999 the model M, which looks almost the same, but sports a dramatically changed undercarriage, with different axles, wheel hubs, brakes, driveshafts, you name it and THEN the Urban model came, which basically was "just" new bumpers and a different grill. If you're venturing towards Niva-based vehicles, you should also at least mention the APAL and the JAEGER. (Depending on market) Please see this as constructive feedback, I especially liked the footage of the AZLK-models as I've so far only seen pictures of them...
Great content
The T34 of all SUVs!
I would love to have 1 of these.
You can get that thing up the greasy pole. My grandpa had one, used it for hunting, to pull logs out of his forest, and most of those dirt roads are destroyed by tractors, the only thing that could get there. So many times I thought "that's it. This time we are not getting out", and that thing managed to pull us out. Sadly, he sold it couple yrs ago, and now I want another one :)
I'm in my forties. My dad had one, in the mid-late eighties. Started my driving lessons in one.
Legendary car!
My first car 1.7I. Still miss itt😥😥
I think it's worth mentioning that they began making older models again because they can't manufacture their own modern parts, like airbags, and had to import them. Because of the war, they may still be making them 20 years from now.
Yeap! That's right!
What about other ladas that is ordinary modern cars?
@@philippshevliagin9945 these westerners don't know anything bro. They just talk and talk all day long with literally no idea how it's going here.
@@philippshevliagin9945 Post-soviet VAZ lineup is a quagmire of repackaged Samaras all the way to Granta with Vesta as the only actually modern Lada.
Niva survives not because they can't make a more modern car but because it's a simple and capable off-roader with no competition in it's price range and will be always in high demand.
Incorrect, the Lada Niva never ceased production. Why? Because it's a simple and very capable off-roader, for which the parts are plentiful and affordable.
Why would Western Sanctions be a problem? Quite hilariously, Lada just doesn't install the parts that they were importing, such as radios and airbags. Mind due, these are the "optional upgraded radios and airbags". Finally, they can always just import radios and airbags from China and India, both of which already produce them.
Cool video
it's lit!
Wish I had a one in good running condition.
An uncle of mine had one in the late 80's earlu 90's. Never complained about it and was a cool ride!
В Ниве сначала её производства не менялся только кузов ( 1 раз менялся зад в 1991 году). Внутри постоянно что то меняется. 3 салон по счету. Последний раз обновили в 2020 году. Мотор сначала получил объём 1.7, потом его перевели на инжектор, потом инжектор изменился с ДМРВ на ДАТ. Были внедренны гидрокомпенсаторы и гидонатяжитель цепи. Цепь была заменена на 1 рядную усиленную вместо двухрядной, что повысило КПД двигателя. Раздаточная коробка получила двухрядные подшипники на выходных фланцах карданов. Карданы получили ШРУСы вместо крестовин. Задняя подвеска менялась 3 раза. Спереди вместо регулируемых роликовых подшипников внедренны не регулируемые, сайлентблоки рычагов усилены, тормозной диск теперь можно менять не снимая ступицу. Редуктор переднего моста больше не прикручивается к двигателю. Крепится отдельно, что снизило вибронагруженность кузова. Был внедрён гидроусилитель рулевого управления, АБС, система Эра-Глонас, подогрев сидений, подогрев и электрорегулировка зеркал. В следующем году машина получит новый двигатель, где крутящий момент увеличат со 128 Нм, до 170 Нм. Учитывая её не большой вес это сделает её ещё более проходимой. Нива Легенда.
Lada niva )))
"why changing if it already perfect" - Soviet Car Engineer-
В Ниве сначала её производства не менялся только кузов ( 1 раз менялся зад в 1991 году). Внутри постоянно что то меняется. 3 салон по счету. Последний раз обновили в 2020 году. Мотор сначала получил объём 1.7, потом его перевели на инжектор, потом инжектор изменился с ДМРВ на ДАТ. Были внедренны гидрокомпенсаторы и гидонатяжитель цепи. Цепь была заменена на 1 рядную усиленную вместо двухрядной, что повысило КПД двигателя. Раздаточная коробка получила двухрядные подшипники на выходных фланцах карданов. Карданы получили ШРУСы вместо крестовин. Задняя подвеска менялась 3 раза. Спереди вместо регулируемых роликовых подшипников внедренны не регулируемые, сайлентблоки рычагов усилены, тормозной диск теперь можно менять не снимая ступицу. Редуктор переднего моста больше не прикручивается к двигателю. Крепится отдельно, что снизило вибронагруженность кузова. Был внедрён гидроусилитель рулевого управления, АБС, система Эра-Глонас, подогрев сидений, подогрев и электрорегулировка зеркал. В следующем году машина получит новый двигатель, где крутящий момент увеличат со 128 Нм, до 170 Нм. Учитывая её не большой вес это сделает её ещё более проходимой. Нива Легенда.
I love a, proper, farm truck.
2:56 Fun fact: the italian car "Fiat Panda" (produced from 1980 to 2002 without significant changes) had the spare wheel under the hood too.
As far as I recall. They were amazingly capable offroad. However the rust worms liked them a lot. They had various problems but you had a fighting chance of fixing them on the spot. They were dirt cheap. That makes it a little hard to complain about not being as good as other offroaders. They were at least double the price - there simply were no alternatives at the price... I can't say I miss them. They got the job done... That's important to a lot of people. The Nivas could probably be sold around the world today for that very reason making a difference...
Fun Fact: Changes were indeed done, to the engine, boot door, rear bodywork, doors and door openings.
Там очень много изменений в ходовой части. Современна Нива на ходу это совсем другой автомобиль.
Bulletproof love it.
I had one of these ( a Cossack the posh one) excellent off road on road not to bad , but boy did people laugh at me till the needed to be pulled out . Shame at the time there were no van version
It also rusts easier than a brillo pad and I love it
Under rated channel!
The LWB pickup looks right, would sell well IMHO
They have a lot of interchangeable parts with the Fiat 147 made in South America
Εξαιρετικό! Εύγε!
I hope i have one some day ❤
Epic!
BTW "Niva Reka" in english it's just Niva River (River - река по-русски - River - [reka] in russian)
During the Soviet era, do people have to wait 10 years for the car? Something like the Trabant?
Better than the junk made by car companies in the west nowdays
A mind blowing 76 horse power.
It's more than enough when driving through constant all wheel drive...
and with a low range transfer case and locking centre diff...
but the unicorn LSD for the rear diff/or manual locking rear diff
made it even better.
Этот двигатель настроен под крутящий момент с малых оборотов. Что то вроде бензинового дизеля.
I’m h my God Niva1600
I really want to import one into the USA, 3 door model for me
i want a lada dem
If you're incapable of producing your product in sufficient numbers to satisfy demand and at a better price than your competitors, your product is NOT a masterpiece. It's curiosity, and nothing more.
Дело было не в количестве
А в том что большая часть продавалась за рубежом. Это приносило валюту в бюджет страны, для импорта нужного оборудования. После СССР её много покупали. И до сих пор покупают. У неё так же есть второе поколение ВАЗ 2123. Но выпускалось оно под брендом Шевроле, на совместном предприятии GM-AvtoVaz. Сейчас это Niva Trevel.
Zombie apocalypse car
Nope. You mess it with Uaz
They broke down a lot . Parts were inexpensive. If it had bigger engine and better stability on the road more would have been sold .
Engine available 1.8 - its enough, but very rare aftermarket. Stability fixed by proper ammos and power steering, aftermarket too.
В следующем году будет новый двигатель.
@@Alex_Gryzunov В сеееельском хозяяяяйстве намечааааается прорыв! Это про дефорсированный мотор от весты с 8клапанной башкой что ли? А, нуну. Тоже чудо техники, родом из начала 2000х.
@@antontsau да все равно откуда оно родом. Главное как машина поедет. А турбину можно и на родной мотор поставить.
@@Alex_Gryzunov проблема с нивомотором не в том как оно едет, 1.8 (2130, классика) вполне норм едет даже в древней карбюраторной версии, а в том как оно ломается. Как из него масло течет и поршни вываливаются, цепь тянется и прокладка издыхает.
I got stuck working on these for a few years (driveline shop) as a sub contractor for a Lada dealership...what an absolute garbage can.
A high tech Niva? Was it ever made for road savety?
Would be nice to give it a high-tech 2L engine...... Japanese or German origin
Nah. It just can't accomodate such engines. Too powerful and will just break transmission
@PyromaN93 lots of Nivas with Toyota diesel engines and VW Golf turbo diesel engines here in Brazil says otherwise.
Shame they only make it in left hand drive....
Well Suzuki Jimnny Same class, better everything...In Russia it cost 3 million rubles , niva is 3 times cheaper. I wonder how much they both cost in other Japan or somewhere else
An incredible detail in the story that I discovered a short time ago, but that I could not get many details was the fact that Lada sold the rights to use the NIVA name to Chevrolet. That's why the car was called Lada 4x4 nowadays.
They didn't sell the rights to the "Niva" name, but the 4x4 system. AvtoVaz produced the Chevrolet Niva, while Chevrolet sold it, in a join venture called GM-AvtoVaz. Chevrolet was also the one to develop the Chevrolet Niva with the Lada Niva's 4x4 system as it's base. In 2019, ZvtoVaz managed to get full ownership of the join venture and incorporated it into itself.
The reason why the Lada Niva was renamed to the Lada 4x4 was purely due to marketing. It was an attempt to get customers to focus on the Chevrolet Niva, the new product, rather than the Lada Niva.
@@ravenouself4181ошибка.
Шевроле Нива разработал АВТОВАЗ. Первые машины выпускались под названием ВАЗ 2123. Они выпускались на опытном производстве внутри АвтоВАЗа. Но для запуска в серию помешал экономический кризис 1998 года. Тогда АВТОВАЗ стал искать внешнего партнера. Им стал GM. Были внедренные некоторые изменения в техническую, но не в дизайн. После чего машина получила бренд Шевроле Нива. Сейчас по сути тот же авто но в рестайлинге продаётся под именем Лада Нива Тревел.
There were changes, for one the engine in all models after 2004 was build by General Motors...bad error. The old 1400 cc engine was better and more durable.. it sadly could not comply with the new emission standards. Having said that: in as far as cars for rough terrain goes, this is exactly what it should be: the best thing on a all terrain vehicle is what it does not have, costs nothing and can't break.
You sure it's not a Soviet Fiat?
Инженерные решения от Фиат в ней есть. Но это не тупая копия.
Lada? Lada problems!
Moscovich the best
#Sui 10 USD
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Niva is the best car to own just dont drive it
sorry, not soviet design and engineering. it is a porche design'
The biggest problem - its extremely unreliable, especially if used in offroad, even light. Engine cooks at 100K, gearbox fails every 50K, electrical wiring (very simple, as it came from early 70s) corrodes and fails. Body RUSTS! Especially in Moscow when all winter it is exposed to salt, sand and snow, perfect mix to destroy steel. My Niva was bought in 1998, used up to 2001 then stored as reserve car - and still had body bottom with transfer case mounting points rusted away and ripped off circa 2007. Native 1.7L carb engine is not enough to pull this box on highways, aftermarket 1.8 is much better. Front axle gear fails very often, all parts of it are prone - bearings, shafts, reductor gear and even its case fitted to motor, not to body.
So - funny car, but only if you can fix it, if you know what to do, how to replace engine in fields (yes I did it on our race Niva) and so on. And, of course, obsolete for now, 50 years old systems are not usable in modern world.
Primitive soviet vehicles as well as tractors, useless, uncomfortable, ugly and impractical
Impractical? Only on the highways. On terrain, it's quite capable.
And a lot of fun to drive.
Useless? Seriously?
Uncomfortable? Maybe for obese Americans
Ugly? It's a pretty timeless design
Embarrassing Westerner take, silence
Sure. Fancy people who need a grocery store cars, really have no use for them
It is one of the few cars that you can drive in the rainy season on the Amazon highways in it's stock form without any major issues, others "off-road" vehicles need extensive and expensive modifications to do that.
Примитивный качек, ха ха
Do they make it with right hand steering? Can you get one in Uganda?
В Египте есть импортёр автомобилей Лада. Возможно через них получится.