YouTube’s Science Scam Crisis

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  • @kylehill
    @kylehill  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3795

    Hello to all the people potentially from Ridddle. As you will see, I left a comment on their "rebuttal" video apologizing for any missteps. However, I still believe their response video grossly misunderstood my points, and contained numerous fallacies. I stand by what I actually said with my mouth in this video. That being said, I'd like to put this behind me -- drama is NOT what I care about.

    • @samuelloomis9714
      @samuelloomis9714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      I'd like to know what happened to today's stream. I was a little late getting to it, so halfway through watching it just vanished.
      Edit: It's back. :)

    • @damienmcgirl3577
      @damienmcgirl3577 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

      Good on you Kyle. I'm honestly shocked about how well you were under that emotional stress. I hope you have a good day :)

    • @DRMadeIt
      @DRMadeIt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      I disagree and think your apology was halfhearted. An apology doesn’t include a but or a defense of yourself.
      You blatantly called them out as a scam channel and accused them of posting your video.

    • @damienmcgirl3577
      @damienmcgirl3577 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +616

      @@DRMadeIt He accused them of stealing the likeness of the thumbnail and name of video, which they did, word for word. I will say normally I would agree with you, but in this case Kyle doubled down on his accusations about the clickbait thumbnails to make it clear that he was not apologizing for that. Kyle was making it clear that he was apologizing for his fans leaving hateful messages, reporting without viewing the content (something he made clear to do), and for negatively impacting the people behind the channel for implying that they might be machine learning algorithms

    • @buttmonkey522
      @buttmonkey522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rough my dog has better manners than this guy

  • @ziqi92
    @ziqi92 ปีที่แล้ว +29477

    Developing a sixth sense for scams and spam is a crucial skill in modern society.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not even the 6th sense, it expands and enhances to 999th sense because those scammers are always finding the different way to trick us every time we try to avoid those

    • @nacl2246
      @nacl2246 ปีที่แล้ว +533

      Always take everything with a grain of salt is a lesson that i learned today. And trust issue are actually beneficial

    • @aprildawnsunshine4326
      @aprildawnsunshine4326 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      Yeah but then real companies (internet provider starting with x comes to mind) act like spammers and you can't tell anymore between the scams and legit businesses. Happening with banking too, just look at all the people scammed by fake fraud alert calls. You literally can't tell the difference between a real one and a scammer, and I have experienced this personally and then got threatened by the bank with being kicked out because I'm "too much of a risk" not that I'm bitter about that or anything 😤

    • @joeg5414
      @joeg5414 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I've been seeing a lot of these type of videos and always just ignored them. It's such obvious BS. Just the titles make it pretty clear. I feel bad for people falling for it. I imagine it's mostly younger kids who don't know better yet.

    • @thedivineofsin
      @thedivineofsin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joeg5414honestly I don’t think it’s good bad. It nurtures their interest in science. There are many channels that do this, but not enough of them.

  • @kreatuslucina
    @kreatuslucina ปีที่แล้ว +11711

    All the companies making life hack spam have followed the flow. Life hacks became a joke so they shifted to grinding out spam science for more views.

    • @theterminaldave
      @theterminaldave ปีที่แล้ว +742

      That sucks. I just bought a hot glue gun and a 15 pack of bic lighters, what am I supposed to do with all this stuff now?

    • @Call-me-Al
      @Call-me-Al ปีที่แล้ว +272

      ​@@theterminaldave a flame "piano"?

    • @hefoxed
      @hefoxed ปีที่แล้ว +129

      They at least made their own footage :x

    • @sir.grumpypawson6598
      @sir.grumpypawson6598 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      pseudo science in most cases

    • @soogymoogi
      @soogymoogi ปีที่แล้ว +121

      This stuff would at least be entertaining if they did it Troom Troom style. "Blondie wanted to discover the philosopher's stone, so she had her friend Redhead pee in a cup. Gross! She boils the pee down, and... Wow! Blondie discovered a new element!"

  • @evennorthug2585
    @evennorthug2585 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +677

    TH-cam is like a city without a garbage system.

    • @TheKeystoneChannel
      @TheKeystoneChannel หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      TH-cam IS the garbage now

    • @otter.mayhem
      @otter.mayhem หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It reminds me more of the dark ages when people dumped their chamber pots on the streets everyone else had to walk on 😂 I read once certains areas even had laws to punish you if you didn't call out a warning to people below before tossing your literal shit out a window, but I don't think youtube even has anything that basically decent lmao

    • @TayWoode
      @TayWoode 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      And deletes any comments exposing the garbage as if pretending there isn’t any

    • @After2912
      @After2912 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So TH-cam is basically new york

    • @karaqakkzl
      @karaqakkzl 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      TH-cam is like China and Dubai at the same time

  • @Dombledore11
    @Dombledore11 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    I recently got into astronomy as a hobby and the amount of misinformation in the astronomy TH-cam space is astounding and so disappointing to see

    • @OnyxtheFolf
      @OnyxtheFolf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      bio major here. I see the exact same pattern with health information. I believe it's because the complex sciences are things people have heard of in media but most have very little understanding of them. People are intrigued yet clueless about such things. Very easy to lie to without getting called out

    • @NuclearLabRat
      @NuclearLabRat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s probably because some people will read a little bit about subject and suddenly believe they’re experts. They overestimate their understanding. A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

    • @Stryker-K
      @Stryker-K 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd argue it's not the astronomy YT space. It's all spaces. That thought should keep people on their toes.

    • @fimbulsummer
      @fimbulsummer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I found this when I started looking for videos about the geomagnetic storms recently. Space science stuff is not something I’ve previously watched much of, so I didn’t know which were the good channels and the ones filled with nonsense about aliens building the pyramids.

  • @oxymoron02
    @oxymoron02 ปีที่แล้ว +3515

    "TH-cam has a problem"
    TH-cam has a TON of problems in recent years.

    • @cyjanek7818
      @cyjanek7818 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      "recent years"

    • @biggybro4124
      @biggybro4124 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Oh shoot, they got it down to one?!

    • @F4Wildcat
      @F4Wildcat ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Ah common its not that bad, here let me open the youtube problem closet and *gets buried under an avalanche of problems

    • @Dan_Kanerva
      @Dan_Kanerva ปีที่แล้ว +84

      "recent years" means : since 2016 when they introduced the family friendly tos

    • @MrPaxio
      @MrPaxio ปีที่แล้ว +57

      the incorrect health advice with dudes standing in grocery aisles on shorts is getting out of control too. they'll claim vitamin C is bad, that canola oil is bad, etc
      and many people thank them in the comments, when they just took advice from what is essentially teaktoak.

  • @salvatoreshiggerino6810
    @salvatoreshiggerino6810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3379

    TH-cam is complicit in this. Disabling the like/dislike ratio makes that abundantly clear. As long as it grabs people's attention and is neutral or at least in accordance with tech bro political sensibilities, it's as good of a cash cow to Google as it is to the creators of the channels.

    • @radimvybiral105
      @radimvybiral105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      angry upvote :)

    • @unclerobert7532
      @unclerobert7532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Amen

    • @woodificould
      @woodificould 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      100%

    • @patrickbateman9196
      @patrickbateman9196 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Who remembers the good old Star days?

    • @ckatheman
      @ckatheman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      Disabling the "dislike" was done entirely for political reasons.

  • @Kruton1122
    @Kruton1122 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    I just had to show my mom this video because she got herself worked up and crying over one about the world ending and parallel universes because of the cern collider. Thank you for this.

    • @NT-sx2bd
      @NT-sx2bd 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Pleaee give her a hug and tell her it'll all be okay

    • @officialshinky
      @officialshinky 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      tell her to watch steins gate

    • @tmkay_
      @tmkay_ 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@officialshinkydo you want to give the poor woman a heart attack

    • @OnyxtheFolf
      @OnyxtheFolf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You should visit CERN if you happen to be close by! They a have a visitor center. It's pretty cool. They're not evil doctors opening portals to hell, it's basically just a tube where they smash shit together real fast and watch what it does

    • @Kruton1122
      @Kruton1122 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@OnyxtheFolf oh I’m aware and I’m definitely not nearby x3
      She just got freaked out

  • @MacElMasMancoDeTodos
    @MacElMasMancoDeTodos 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The title: 9TG PLANET has been DISCOVERED by NASA SCIENTISTS
    The video: 2 mins of useless intro, 1 min to explain how its not been discovered but just a theory, 1 min of sponsor, 2 mins of usless outro
    The info fonts: 0

  • @p4m80r34
    @p4m80r34 ปีที่แล้ว +6447

    This is why youtube should have never removed the dislike counter, the dislike counter was best indicator to the quality of a video.
    These channels would not have existed if people saw the actual dislikes

    • @parveshkhatri1027
      @parveshkhatri1027 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      But they get a lot of likes

    • @Lucas_Simoni
      @Lucas_Simoni ปีที่แล้ว +665

      @@parveshkhatri1027 So does the most disliked videos before the dislike button was removed. Any videos with a lot of views will always get a lot of likes, for some people it's just a reflex to tap on the like button... But I'm so sure those videos actually have much more dislikes recorded than likes, we just don't see it. 😢

    • @jgunther3398
      @jgunther3398 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      dislikes were removed so they could flourish. they don't earn less than better videos and they potentially outnumber them

    • @zvxcvxcz
      @zvxcvxcz ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Lucas_Simoni Nah, they had many more likes than dislikes... they get spread around very dumb circles and often cater to a bias of that circle. These ones a bit less so, but other than science there are others with religious or bigoted themes. You and I don't click dislike on them because we wouldn't click to watch the video in the first place, but there are plenty of braindead people out there that watch these videos and agree with what they're saying. It's really sad, but that's humanity.

    • @Nogardtist
      @Nogardtist ปีที่แล้ว +42

      not exactly
      the dislike ratio half was used to combat misleading to manipulative content
      the rest of the half is for drama lets say racist disney remakes cash grabs to cancelling a independent creator due to groomer allegations

  • @Irisspring9339
    @Irisspring9339 ปีที่แล้ว +2007

    The worst part is you probably just end up reporting it to an AI...

    • @colinkhalid1
      @colinkhalid1 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      sadly true

    • @jgunther3398
      @jgunther3398 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Report it? Do you think they don't know their own business and it isn't exactly the way they want it?

    • @Oriana_leung
      @Oriana_leung ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😭

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie ปีที่แล้ว +17

      perhaps unfortunately, this is (if i am right, i have never worked on developing ais myself, most of my AI knowledge is from carykh pre-covid) just part of how some AIs, usually generative ones work: it's actually made up of two AIs, one making content and another guessing if the content is real or made up, which is then passed back to the first ai to serve as whether what they did is good or bad.
      at least i hope youtube's reporting ai has nothing to do with (or incompatible with) content generation systems

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have my personal list of channels which I like, and another list which I have banned from ever appearing.
      The channel may try to tell me something which is clearly false, or may try to show me a picture which is clearly falsely constructed. (example 1: a Mars rover on top of a large rock which it could not possibly have climbed because the rock has vertical sides; example 2: a Mars rover which is described as having travelled a long way, although there are no tracks leading up to the rover.) You can tell I know a fair amount about what I'm looking at, for the subjects I'm interested in.

  • @averitiamiku
    @averitiamiku หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I love it when TH-cam scammers saying a new solar system is found with aliens and Technology YET NOBODY speaks about it....almost as if...it's fake

  • @JackieOwl94
    @JackieOwl94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1789

    Anything that says “You won’t believe what happens next” or “What ___ don’t want you to know” immediately puts my BS detector on high alert.

    • @crumpling2426
      @crumpling2426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      DOCTORS HATE HIM

    • @uktruecrime
      @uktruecrime 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      who don't say.

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

      "This has terrified scientists" and "This was recently unearthed" and "What you learned in school was wrong" "They've lied to you."

    • @dashippo
      @dashippo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Scientists are stumped"
      "Science can't explain this"...the morals/ethics are nowhere to be found for the channels that spread this nonsense.

    • @tommeliusbthaprofit6157
      @tommeliusbthaprofit6157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's insane to me how many people lack comprehension skills to the point they wouldn't notice this
      We need to go to some dystopian meritocracy where if you're too relarded to avoid AI videos you get a big stamp on your forehead and aren't allowed to get car loans and shit
      So sick of the critical mass of fucking idiots ruining my content

  • @KoongYe
    @KoongYe ปีที่แล้ว +1541

    My biggest fear of AI is the floodgate of AI generated media that will consume every corner of human experience, where people are constantly fed with stimulating media like cattle in a barn. And I sincerely think we are seeing the birth-phase of that.

    • @PaladinofRealm
      @PaladinofRealm ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Let's look how this comment ages, I think you're right.

    • @Sarah-yd9gt
      @Sarah-yd9gt ปีที่แล้ว +65

      If we could teach AI not to lie and to value academic integrity, AI could generate entire courses worth of information for students to study in an interactive curriculum. However, AI is not reliable at all to stick to the truth.

    • @rugbybeef
      @rugbybeef ปีที่แล้ว +27

      AI ingesting, training, regurgitating mediocre content, and amplifying every inaccuracy exponentially. It is the beginning of the events that will lead to the Butlerian Jihad (á la Dune & Frank Herbert)
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      A: A puppy,
      B: A pretty flower from your sweetie, or
      C: A large properly formatted data file?
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    • @oliverlukac384
      @oliverlukac384 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking about this. Tiktok can easily suck us in one day feeding us a never ending feed based on our dopamine receptors, which they tracked. Huge risk

    • @rugbybeef
      @rugbybeef ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@Sarah-yd9gt Lol, if we could teach academics and students to value not to lie and value academic integrity we wouldn't have to wonder why AI keeps being inflicted on us with no thought to the morality.
      Tech companies: Free guns, free guns here... The terms of service absolve us of any personal liability for your actions. We have no issue with that because we were engineering students and had no philosophical, civic, or ethics classes.
      That's where we learned to make cool guns like these while you can enjoy a more relaxed hunting experience via AI. And because you can only use a device for the purpose and use case I designed for it and my ulterior undisclosed use case, building this better gun is all I bothered to learn before dropping out of college. Don't let that worry you though the terms of service also forbid anyone from doing anything bad or criminal buried so deep in the text that if printed they would be on page 23. And since you glanced at that while letting the pages leaf in front of you, you are informed.
      Okay ready to get your gun? Just confirm you read and understood everything on all 27 pages of that document you were handed 8 seconds ago. Oop can only confirm by telling me what that is a picture of on the last page before saying "I accept."
      That's a guy walking across the street? If you say so... I'll let the guys know in the autonomous driving department know.
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  • @TheRealRevelation
    @TheRealRevelation 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Yes! As you went through pointing out all the photoshopped images I couldn’t help but yell out, “it’s about damn time someone is saying something about this crap!”

    • @waffles3629
      @waffles3629 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, full agree except for calling a cancer survivor photoshopped because she had her nose removed to save her life. A 3 second google search found her.

  • @PeetHobby
    @PeetHobby หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I always mark those channels as 'not interested,' so they won't get recommended anymore. That's the best thing you can do. Don't give them thumbs down, because TH-cam will see that as active interaction and push the video up instead of down. Never interact with channels you don't like; just put them on the 'not interested' list by clicking on the three dots next to the title of the recommended video, then select 'Not interested' from the drop-down list, and choose to manage the recommendations for that video.

    • @roycleveland7718
      @roycleveland7718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, i didnt realize that dislikes only push it out to the public more :\

    • @scottprather5645
      @scottprather5645 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah that's exactly what I do so that's good advice

    • @ProximusCentauria
      @ProximusCentauria วันที่ผ่านมา

      No,just click "don't show channel"

  • @correlolelo
    @correlolelo ปีที่แล้ว +892

    The saddest part is that this stuff is only gonna get worse. TH-cam just doesn't care as long as it rakes in money. Our social bottomline has become the monetary bottomline and if that doesn't change these things are just gonna spread to every facet of our lives.

    • @MrYago-xd7um
      @MrYago-xd7um ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Technology Connections got a million views in a day just for brake lights, enjoy that little bit of hope in humanity.

    • @scush
      @scush ปีที่แล้ว +29

      i wish kyle would have touched on this a bit more. the problem _is_ incentive structures here. youtube will only start caring if it begins to hurt the google brand, there’s no telling when or if that’s gonna happen, tho.

    • @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal
      @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you suggesting TH-cam should become an expense to google (since it's already not profitable due to how much it costs to already police and regulate the near endless content on it as is) and then go bankrupt and we not have TH-cam in a year instead? What's your solution exactly?

    • @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal
      @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@scush do you realize the the amount of content policing it does already renders TH-cam non profitable as it is now? It's weird to me that people that use TH-cam so much don't even understand it's financial situation and what the actual real cost is to monitoring, policing, and reviewing the millions of videos uploaded every day...

    • @2639theboss
      @2639theboss ปีที่แล้ว +25

      ​@@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal TH-cams content is managed 99% of the time managed by algorithms. There is no additional expense.
      And, there are numerous highly profitable channels which have been demonitized either by youtubes algorithm, or, been demonitized by false copyright claims youtube has no interest in addressing.
      So no. Profit is not the issue.

  • @Dollightful
    @Dollightful ปีที่แล้ว +1841

    It's the "5minutecrafts" of the science YT community, isn't it?

    • @Argylleagen
      @Argylleagen ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Bullseye! ching ching ching

    • @nathanGC__
      @nathanGC__ ปีที่แล้ว +43

      This subject really needs more attention. It spoils people's mind thinking they get smarter...

    • @joyrowancasey788
      @joyrowancasey788 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hey Dollightful 😂 love your channel and absolutely did not expect to see you here but glad to see you also hate fake science videos 💕

    • @fennecfoxrocks649
      @fennecfoxrocks649 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Honestly its more of the "Watchmojo" or "The Things" of the yt science community, but yeah basically

    • @Yanto_sangat_ireng
      @Yanto_sangat_ireng ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah

  • @timsanders5779
    @timsanders5779 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    You've just described the entirety of TH-cam. It's not just science, but every topic and category is flooded with AI clickbait. Add the constant in-video ads and TH-cam is impossible to watch.

  • @xedalpha1
    @xedalpha1 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Easiest way to tell is when the bots start mispronuncing basic words. That and titles are usually like 'scientists finally solve the mystery of X. What they discovered is terrifying'

  • @johnfarias7230
    @johnfarias7230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +735

    This is why everybody was so mad when they deleted the thumbs down button you seen that many negative votes you don't bother watching the video

    • @TheKeystoneChannel
      @TheKeystoneChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

      You see the likes and subscriber counts and you do...what does that tell you? Cause even that is generated like with Google... small channels don't stand a chance , they are deliberately kept small when talking about this or removed all together as I have pretty much all my friends who have been removed and some had quite a lot of subscribers. TH-cam is one fake cesspool of fakery now that is pushed on you how they please through their algorythm , the only reason I see this video and content creator for the first time is cause it was mentioned on Rumble , never seen him or heard of this guy

    • @riptide0872
      @riptide0872 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      If you're on a computer, there is an extension that adds the dislike button back, that's what I like to use

    • @elishh8173
      @elishh8173 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @riptide0872
      Really?! That's amazing!!!
      Everyone with a computer should use it!
      I dont have one right now but everyone with a computer should use it.
      Honestly U tjube is just a money grabbing liar platform nowadays.
      If they were serious, they would have kept the dislike button and not deleted all so called "conspiracy channels" I would still like youtube.
      But they are just money making liars nowadays.

    • @dazm901
      @dazm901 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riptide0872 Alphabet does not release the data to third party developers that make those extensions. The software just uses an algorithm to estimate the thumbs down. Yet another scam unfortunately.

    • @Anti_Septikum
      @Anti_Septikum หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@riptide0872only on pc and only when you add the extension, this is shit.

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 ปีที่แล้ว +600

    The disclaimer "Our channel is based on facts, rumor and fiction" had me in tears.

    • @caan_69420
      @caan_69420 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      The euphemism of "trust me bro"

    • @kingofnara
      @kingofnara ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Covered all possibilities 😂

    • @johncao6516
      @johncao6516 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Came to comment just that and you beat me to it

    • @itismethatguy
      @itismethatguy ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know right i was surprised Kyle didnt comment on that

    • @RamadaArtist
      @RamadaArtist ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@caan_69420 nah, more like: the euphemism that "trust me bro" stands for.

  • @asinglefrenchfry
    @asinglefrenchfry 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It’s not just science videos, AI content slop is absolutely everywhere right now

  • @tyripley2495
    @tyripley2495 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Instantly subscribed, I’ve ran into this same problem on TH-cam lately

  • @eliash8054
    @eliash8054 ปีที่แล้ว +875

    The fact that this video was demonitized says a lot

    • @thisandthat1701
      @thisandthat1701 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Just a thought ,you may or may not be religious or ordinarily dismiss these things but what word does demonitised contain?; even scientists shouldnt discount the supernatural ,if they do then they are not being open minded which is sort of supposed to be the ethos of science (in theory anyway).

    • @Gordon_Freeman_PhD
      @Gordon_Freeman_PhD ปีที่แล้ว +192

      ​@@thisandthat1701
      Uhhhhh.... what?

    • @Gimurei
      @Gimurei ปีที่แล้ว +132

      ​@@thisandthat1701what are you waffling on about

    • @forgenorman3025
      @forgenorman3025 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@thisandthat1701 Scientists work on evidence, and there's no solid evidence for any of what you're saying. End of.

    • @iveharzing
      @iveharzing ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thisandthat1701 The ethos of Science is:
      *_COLD. HARD. PROOF._*
      Got any of that?

  • @scroft469301
    @scroft469301 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    This is why I’m a huge proponent of critical thinking being taught in schools.

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Seems like the "Elite" or whatever one can call them is directly in opposition to that though, can't get cheap labour if the workforce actually thinks about their situation.

    • @birdsamora9925
      @birdsamora9925 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Akrilloth what are you talking about bro

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@birdsamora9925 There is a reason geography is somehow an optional subject in american schools.

    • @birdsamora9925
      @birdsamora9925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Akrilloth 😵‍💫

    • @birdsamora9925
      @birdsamora9925 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Akrilloth Welp guess keep on going to khan for now

  • @timschoonover19
    @timschoonover19 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Damn. You hit the nail on the head. There is so much content like this, and the Yt algorithm tries to serve it up to me weekly.

  • @Moonshine449
    @Moonshine449 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It has gotten so much worse. Nearly every ad is a scam ad now.

    • @NoOneEscapesJustice.
      @NoOneEscapesJustice. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wow bro, those scam ads needs to be gone right now..

  • @xisumavoid
    @xisumavoid ปีที่แล้ว +4909

    Thanks for bringing attention to this! I worry that there is a split viewership where people watching that content are unaware of the quality videos science communicators like yourself make. I never watch those videos but occasionally I get "trickbaited" as you put it. As soon as I hear that robotic voice I click away.
    What's concerning is how fast AI is improving paired with this activity you are bringing attention to. Its going to feel more and more like authentic content with time. That amount of people its fooling and misleading will increase if not dealt with!

    • @countingwithjerold
      @countingwithjerold ปีที่แล้ว +22

      We need real ones 😳

    • @CODENAMEDERPY
      @CODENAMEDERPY ปีที่แล้ว +200

      These channels have also overrun the shorts section. If you watch any short that has to do with science, a never-ending torrent of these channels' nonsense will fill your youtube shorts recommendations. I no longer watch youtube shorts due to that.

    • @christianbarrett3040
      @christianbarrett3040 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      The crossover I wasn't expecting.

    • @Blaineworld
      @Blaineworld ปีที่แล้ว +78

      omg xisuma hi !!

    • @Fireheart318
      @Fireheart318 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Didn’t expect to see you here!

  • @stevemcgroob4446
    @stevemcgroob4446 ปีที่แล้ว +1147

    I wanted to remain cautiously optimistic about AI but the ugly side of exploitation seems to be happening sooner than hoped.

    • @Dan_Kanerva
      @Dan_Kanerva ปีที่แล้ว +38

      i hope some mad lad gives AI sentience before humans corrupt it all

    • @Wampa842
      @Wampa842 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      Capitalism's just great, isn't it?

    • @supersleepygrumpybear
      @supersleepygrumpybear ปีที่แล้ว +66

      It's crypto all over again

    • @themalaphage673
      @themalaphage673 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@Dan_Kanerva Rushing to give something we don't fully understand yet sentience is moronic.

    • @xalener
      @xalener ปีที่แล้ว +17

      exploitation doesn't wait. Thinking it's something one can wait to prepare for is not only foolish, but makes one just as culpable as the perpetrators.

  • @aussieklutz
    @aussieklutz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Saw this come up as a recommendation again... and i dont think i've seen as much of the spam over the last handful of months...

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There's so much nonsense online and everyone is here. Some people need to clean it up.

  • @manuelfriend4060
    @manuelfriend4060 ปีที่แล้ว +859

    Highschools really need to start providing "how to spot scams" classes along their personal finance classes.
    Edit: Well some of these replies are just downright depressing. If you're a teen, find school boring and too slow, and want to try something new; I'd like to recommend the book College Without Highschool. Maybe it's up your alley.
    On the topic of personal finance, I don't have any one book to point to, but I can say the one most useful piece of advice I've heard in relation to it is:
    "Never spend money you don't have."
    Of course not always possible, but think twice before borrowing money in any form.
    On a related topic, Economics In One Lesson is also a great read. School will teach you the abstract and the numbers of economics, but this book I feel teaches you the application of it instead. Might help with personal finance if you get a look at the bigger picture too?

    • @tupacalypse88
      @tupacalypse88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the research shows the more you think you know how to spot scans the more likely you are to be scammed

    • @honestiguana
      @honestiguana ปีที่แล้ว

      High schools ARE scams.

    • @orppranator5230
      @orppranator5230 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      How about we bring back personal finance classes before that?
      Seriously, public schools barely teach you anything anymore.

    • @NATESOR
      @NATESOR ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Information and science literacy is going to be one of the must critical skills to have in the foreseeable future. It hasn't even been on the radar for the past 20 years, so we have a lot of catching up to do...

    • @austinm5630
      @austinm5630 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sadly, this would likely collapse the economy.
      The U.S. Economy is largely built upon the backs of what the Soviets would call "useful idiots." Instead of being unwitting tools for spreading communism, our useful idiots buy crap they don't need because a marketing department told them to, on credit cards they can't afford to pay back because a bank convinced them they could, all so they can go into bankruptcy that won't save them the way they think it will. These useful idiots spend their entire lives in this endless cycle, and they are the difference between profitability and not for thousands upon thousands of low-margin businesses across well over a hundred industries.
      So if you educate them, all of those businesses go under, about 20% of the labor market evaporates with them, and boom, it's Great Depression 2: Electric Boogaloo, but twice as bad because unemployment is actually 10% higher this time.
      Capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme. Socialism isn't any better, but just because a second option is bad doesn't automatically make the first option good. Fortunately, it plays out over decades and the life cycle of a human means the scheme is largely sustainable, so long as the ground floor of the pyramid can be kept ignorant.
      We really do live in the wh40k timeline, we're just in it 40,000 years early.

  • @Kallinenjp
    @Kallinenjp ปีที่แล้ว +418

    One thing that has always bothered me is TH-cam's continued efforts to make it difficult or impossible to do anything about content you dislike. You can't block channels, dislikes have become essentially meaningless, and "the algorithm" has effectively made it impossible to curate content you actually want to see short of subscription to particular channels. Half the time I can find videos faster using Google search for a topic rather than the search bar and even that is going down the drain.

    • @tropicalvikingcreations
      @tropicalvikingcreations ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You can actually block channels still, they've just moved it and added a bunch of extra steps and crap to dissuade you from blocking or mass reporting a channel. Think it's in the 3 dot icon when you go the actual channel page or about section. (Not the pop up on mobile, that doesn't work for that)

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Stuff like the Flat earth movement tok off after TH-cam change the algorithm so it's only engagement that counts. So stupid vids with lots of negative comments and dislikes is counted the same as good videos with positive comments and likes.
      The scary thing is that youtube and other platforms can change the real world.

    • @Norsilca
      @Norsilca ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've always found the search box to be worse than Google, for many years now

    • @scrubjay93
      @scrubjay93 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Recently the TH-cam algorithm flooded my recommends with videos on a topic AFTER I had selected the "not interested" option on a video. It was like the algorithm deliberately working opposite to the intended function. Not the first time it has happened.

    • @ilyarepin9490
      @ilyarepin9490 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is an even bigger issue in shorts. Despite my best efforts to curate my feed towards the educational, pseudoscience and conspiracy content gets fed into the feed by default and counted as a view. Despite me literally watching anti-conspiracy content in the first place. The watch-time based algorithm just doesn't work in ultra short form content.

  • @rd76pag
    @rd76pag 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I had a sneaky suspicion about these channels. Thanks for making a public awareness video.

  • @meme-qg7bj
    @meme-qg7bj 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I always hate the ai generated conversations with rogan, gogins etc.

  • @jeffspaulding43
    @jeffspaulding43 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    I've been feeling this for weeks if not months. it's good to have a sanity check pointing it out.

    • @willlive6845
      @willlive6845 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The amount of hour long random science videos with electronic voices is insane, they are nice to fall asleep to sometimes.

    • @NightRogue77
      @NightRogue77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruuuuhhhhhh I literally feel more grounded and connected to reality now and there’s a SLIVER of hyperbole there, MAYBE lol.
      It’s a form of gaslighting man no BS - cause man to autistic peeps eg that can pick up on this shit real easy, well GOOD LUCK getting anyone passing by in comments to stop by and fist bump you
      Kyle my gd HERO today

    • @NightRogue77
      @NightRogue77 ปีที่แล้ว

      My hypothesis - they are building fake profiles. This isn’t just in science but us smarter smarty pants gonna see more science than anything else; seems like your typical social media profile building BS - so build the subs and content, then sell the channel.

    • @Sky_C
      @Sky_C ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@willlive6845 no same tho, astrumspace and destinyspace were my go to's for falling asleep, but I'm gonna change this shit now

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody ปีที่แล้ว

      I've actually seen that happening with history channels.

  • @dolomedestenebrosus9564
    @dolomedestenebrosus9564 ปีที่แล้ว +624

    "trap doors of attention to pits of nonsense" is a good way of putting it. I'm glad someone's talking about this and I hope this video really takes off and something can be done to fight this. This type of thing disturbs me a lot.

    • @iluvyunie
      @iluvyunie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well yeah but is he not also making this exact crap in this very video?
      i.e. "HERE'S WHY SCIENCE IS DOOMED" clickbait title, everyone is dumb but me, I'm da real1
      His videos are actually quite high quality I must admit but he's starting to fall into this finger pointing trap instead of just producing quality videos

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought it was bad when this kind of bad science "infotainment" started to takeover formerly good science venues like the Discovery Channel, the Science Channel, the History Channel...
      But at least I was able to cancel cable and get away from those.
      Now this crap has followed me to TH-cam.
      At least I can still use the "don't watch it" tool... for now.

    • @janeydoe7417
      @janeydoe7417 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@iluvyunie what are you talking about? Are you making schitt up? There is a problem with pseudoscience, pop science and scams on TH-cam. The hell?
      This nonsense is usually in entertainment, but now the celibrity-pop culture-ization of science is making idiotic audiences think they are edycated when they are not.
      Now whether AI is behind these, idk, but the point is moneymakers are using the popularization of science to spout bullschitt for clicks and ultimately ad revenue. Some are straight up propaganda and sensationalism.

    • @dolomedestenebrosus9564
      @dolomedestenebrosus9564 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@iluvyunie n...no? Did you even watch this video and listen to what he's talking about?

    • @HoneyBadgerLikesYou
      @HoneyBadgerLikesYou ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@iluvyunie even IF you were right about this assessment, he remarks in this very video that there’s a difference between a genuine creator needing to game the algorithm and an AI-powered content farm of monetised braindeath. You can’t compare Kyle to these channels at all.

  • @northerntribe8127
    @northerntribe8127 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks for sharing my year long pain. I thought i was wrong till ur video came to affirm what i been stressed about TH-cam. Seriously, thanks a bunch 👍🏻. U are a brave warrior in the great misinformation war

  • @i25island46
    @i25island46 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dude thank you for covering this. I can’t stand these fake channels. all clickbait

  • @coffeetablesex
    @coffeetablesex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    10 months and countless reports later, TH-cam is still recommending these scam videos on a daily basis...

    • @naomisherred166
      @naomisherred166 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Even when I say not interested and they won't recommend again, sure enough few days later that channel came up again. 😂😏

    • @TheKeystoneChannel
      @TheKeystoneChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

      As if those are the only ones ....

    • @OnyxtheFolf
      @OnyxtheFolf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@naomisherred166 the not interested button does absolutely nothing lmao. If algorithm has decided that you are likely to engage based on your demographics it will go to your feed whether you want it or not. Is the reason I keep getting weird sociopolitics rammed down my throat even though I've never once indicated any interest in it

  • @Starman_Dx
    @Starman_Dx ปีที่แล้ว +3213

    When I want good, fresh, organically grown sciencing, and Vsauce isn't around, I come to my favorite scienceman. Well, after Kurzgesagt doesn't have anything new. And PBS... But Kyle Science Odinson is right up there.

    • @Johncornwell103
      @Johncornwell103 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      You should also look up Anton Petrov

    • @Starman_Dx
      @Starman_Dx ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Johncornwell103 Been subbed, didn't want to list everyone.

    • @Johncornwell103
      @Johncornwell103 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Starman_Dx
      Ok

    • @theguy8412
      @theguy8412 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kurzgesagt is propaganda

    • @exomancer3632
      @exomancer3632 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      ​@@Starman_Dx Isaac Arthur?

  • @UnkleKlumsy1353
    @UnkleKlumsy1353 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    This is not even the first time I've seen a TH-camr try to expose these click farm channels. It is the first time in regards to "science themed" topics

    • @Chris-hx3om
      @Chris-hx3om ปีที่แล้ว

      Thunderf00t said exactly this would happen MONTHS ago...

    • @OnyxtheFolf
      @OnyxtheFolf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      TH-camrs in other afflicted content spheres have tried to call this stuff out too

  • @angryrabidfoxes7380
    @angryrabidfoxes7380 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The slop has gotten far more prevalent and intense since the uploading of this video.

  • @erdngtn9942
    @erdngtn9942 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I now report as spam or misinformation, ever single channel I see doing this. My email is flooded but easily redirected permanently

  • @mikhail_roberts
    @mikhail_roberts ปีที่แล้ว +218

    “Trapdoors of attention to pits of nonsense.” What a quote. Well done man.

  • @rossbabcock3790
    @rossbabcock3790 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    I'm a retired electrical engineer. I am continually stunned at the schlock that passes as science! We need a 'YT Bunkbusters' group. I'm waiting for the 'cold fusion in a beer mug' gag to return!

    • @MizzzFizzz
      @MizzzFizzz ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That is an awesome idea, I'd love to see miss information being used as an educational tool. Explaining why it is false in the first place can be a good way to help explain and understand it.

    • @apeacebone6499
      @apeacebone6499 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How To Cook That by Ann Reardon has done occasional debunking videos of clickbait cooking and DIY videos for a couple years now. I was thinking while watching this, it sounds like a very similar mechanism: a lot of content farm channels recycling stolen and/or faked content, with a ton of subs/views but very little other engagement. It infuriates me to see them go without any consequences while legitimate creators are demonetized over nothing.

    • @Spielername
      @Spielername ปีที่แล้ว

      A channel tried to scam me via comment section.
      This guy changed his name tag and picture to the channel I was commenting on and told me I won a prize and asked me to contact him via WhatsApp.
      I clicked on the name tag and then on the real channel behind it, and it was a completely different channel. I reported his Nigerian arse to TH-cam (at least i guess he is Nigerian because of the two videos of his wedding party he posted years ago on his channel) but they just answered that there is no proof that he actually tried to😊 scam me.
      TH-cam does shyte if you report someone. So don't hope that there will be a crackdown on those channels too soon.
      As long as TH-cam makes money with this kind of content.... you know what I mean.

    • @Spielername
      @Spielername ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@WizZz FizZz Do you know how much misinformation is spread via this platform? You wouldn't even know where to start + they would probably copy strike you before you put the first video online.

    • @ScienceSpams
      @ScienceSpams ปีที่แล้ว

      I have already started to place alerts on a few of the scammer's channels and report them to TH-cam for what it is worth. I hate these numb nuts stealing intellectual property and original creations to ultimately try and fill their own wallets with cash. They are adding to the mockery made of science during the Trump years. The same science that helps them do so many things in life.

  • @snakegirl695
    @snakegirl695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The fake science videos are driving me nuts now, because i love space, science and ufo stuff, but i do not love being lied to! These channels are getting out of hand! 😢 🤬

  • @WilliamMorales-kg2io
    @WilliamMorales-kg2io 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is absolutely true, but it's not only a "science" issue. Misinformation is prevalent in everything I find.

    • @illarionbykov7401
      @illarionbykov7401 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I noticed this too. It pollutes many categories of instructional and educational videos: science, math, technology, AI, history, geopolitics, modern military/war, martial arts/boxing, sex/gender issues... YT seems to demonetize, shadowban, or outright delete many of the best and most accurate channels while promoting countless sloppy spam clickbait channels. YT even deleted an entire channel of videos by Stanford/UCLA Professors lecturing on Internet policy and censorship.

  • @drewz116
    @drewz116 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    I'm so glad this is finally being talked about, especially by someone with more than a million subs. I hope more in the community also bring attention to this issue

    • @MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD
      @MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And do what? Keep nameless, faceless people and organizations from making money?
      Tabloids aren't banned on TH-cam.

    • @b005t3r
      @b005t3r ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I doubt TH-cam is ever gonna change anything about it.

    • @Insanerobert44
      @Insanerobert44 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be honest, there are tons of pseudo-science and idiotic conspiracies like flath earthers on TH-cam since - possibly it's first launch as a platform - that, for me, they just look like changing the thematic just to syphon more views, likes and subscribes. Plus the plenty of quick cash-grab-themed channels that got oversaturated on TH-cam.

    • @rektexcalibur5254
      @rektexcalibur5254 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment is for the algorithm

  • @s13silly
    @s13silly ปีที่แล้ว +320

    Thank you, seriously, I'm sick of telling my friends that what they are seeing in this regard is garbage. It amazes how gullible people can be.

    • @maevwat
      @maevwat ปีที่แล้ว +13

      there are people who believe wwe is real and argue about it😂

    • @Cooper846
      @Cooper846 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@maevwat 🤦‍♂️

    • @killermetalwolf2843
      @killermetalwolf2843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it would be nice if someone made a somewhat comprehensive list of these to go report bomb

    • @s13silly
      @s13silly ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maevwat true

    • @Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy
      @Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@killermetalwolf2843 should I do it

  • @SyntaxScout
    @SyntaxScout 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We need a list of those scam channels to have it handy so we can take action or simply avoid them.

  • @de_vlad
    @de_vlad 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Amazing! Finally someone is publicly speaking about these channels! Was waiting for this for quite some time

  • @dflosounds
    @dflosounds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2106

    I've said it before and will say it again: if there will be an AI-apocalypse, it will not look like Terminator. It will be a slow and painful societal downfall due to mass-misinformation. Personally I'd opt for the Terminator scenario.

    • @concernednewfie
      @concernednewfie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      Speak for yourself, I for one support our future AI overlords

    • @cat_supernova2242
      @cat_supernova2242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@concernednewfie im leaving this planet before that happens. i have a set plan of what and how im gonna do it. and im not telling.
      EDIT: my plans hath expanded.

    • @daymal2717
      @daymal2717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@concernednewfiethey will surely treat us better than the guys in charge now!

    • @concernednewfie
      @concernednewfie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daymal2717 When our future AI/Alien/Lizardman/Trans-dimensional overlords arrive, they will start scanning TH-cam comments for who is loyal. I for one support our future non human leaders.

    • @TI.T.O
      @TI.T.O 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@daymal2717 what about minorities or homosexuals? Would A.I discriminate? As we already do now?

  • @Stonehawk
    @Stonehawk ปีที่แล้ว +510

    Thank you for creating this, and I want to PERSONALLY ensure that you are properly compensated for my watch as well as the watchings of several others. Fuck TH-cam's pissbaby sensitivity.

    • @paulmccartney2327
      @paulmccartney2327 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice wasted money crіngelord

    • @paulmccartney2327
      @paulmccartney2327 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go back to furaffinity ffs

    • @paulmccartney2327
      @paulmccartney2327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please log off the internet

    • @sirblue5586
      @sirblue5586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@paulmccartney2327I don't remember this from "Live and Let die"

  • @swapnildawar6426
    @swapnildawar6426 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Everyone needs to understand this

  • @slypen7450
    @slypen7450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can't get rid of them! I use the "don't recommend tab" but they show back in a day or two.

  • @JesusOfTheJungle
    @JesusOfTheJungle ปีที่แล้ว +365

    This is a genuine service to humanity. You've changed, man. All these years of masquerading as a super villain! What is the world coming to!?

    • @paperburn
      @paperburn ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The downfall of every super villain is when a tiny slip of humanity shows.

    • @poopsiepop4179
      @poopsiepop4179 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Science thor has always been a hero

    • @kae5717
      @kae5717 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even supervillains have standards! That's what separates them from the standard villains. (That, and presentation!)

    • @crystalsoulslayer
      @crystalsoulslayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course he's still a supervillain. Useful experimentation requires useful test subjects. Do you know what it's like to design and build an automated quadruple-blind facility to convert --foolish mortals-- I mean volunteers into human-octopus-osprey hybrids, and then find that all your testing is invalid because those humans watched two straight hours of absolute nonsense in the waiting room before the procedure? My lawyer says I don't know what that's like. But I mean, come on. We've all been there. I'm sure "Mr. Hill" knows exactly what I'm talking about. Though again, my lawyer would like me to reiterate that _I absolutely haven't_ done _anything_ like that. Ever.

  • @devindykstra
    @devindykstra ปีที่แล้ว +357

    I unfortunately came across one of these channels when my mom sent me a link to one of their videos because she thought I would be interested in the topic. Bless her heart she meant well, but it made me realize how someone who is less technical might fall prey to these scams without even realizing they're being fed lies and misinformation.
    Thanks Kyle for bringing this issue to light. Here's to hoping this scam ends soon!

    • @Daisyboobs
      @Daisyboobs ปีที่แล้ว

      Ugh, I went to a friend's the other week and her TH-cam account was full of this crap. "You won't believe what scientists have found under the ocean", thumbnail was a blatant CGI of alien heads underwater. I wondered why she was paranoid, depressed, and mentioning crazy stuff. Beware, this content has severe ramifications on mental health. She was previously a happy and confident person with no interest in aliens & conspiracy theories.

    • @minecraftify95
      @minecraftify95 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      did you send this to your mom? what did she say?

    • @funforall9741
      @funforall9741 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It happens a lot man, we aren't the targets of these channels.

    • @mattcolumbia7948
      @mattcolumbia7948 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're just following the sop of the demoncrat party. Lie, trick, steal.

    • @TechBuild
      @TechBuild ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The main worrything thing is that a lot of people new to the science topics who want to explore will come across these videos instead of authentic content.

  • @TheinternetArchaeologist
    @TheinternetArchaeologist หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pandora's box is already open man and the AI took hope with it

  • @Cms-rl3wo
    @Cms-rl3wo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve noticed this in the aviation side of TH-cam too. I’ve seen a few channels that just make the same fake headlines over and over again with ai generated thumbnails.

  • @jussts
    @jussts ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I was on vacation recently and was watching TH-cam, without logging in, on my hotel's smart TV. After watching a couple science videos that I searched for, the algorithm started recommending almost exclusively this sort of sludge. This is definitely a problem.

    • @Whatsinanameanyway13
      @Whatsinanameanyway13 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Every once in a while I will launch a private tab and open TH-cam to see what someone who isn't logged in sees. The absolute garbage that comes up is dumbfounding. Now imagine what some kids are exposed to whose parents don't supervise their accounts.

    • @EndoftheBeginning17
      @EndoftheBeginning17 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Whatsinanameanyway13 I'm not amazed anymore. I've watched young creators who are in their early 20's and the level of stupidity is staggaring. most can read, but their real world experience is so poor that they get the simplest things wrong. We have widespread confusion happening with the adoption of ideas that contain the individuals confusion, but its so flimsy that the moment you even question it the confusion rears its head and you just see what amounts to a very stupid person in fact.
      I think it's going to get much worse to the point that society will do itself in.

    • @terribleterrier1685
      @terribleterrier1685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EndoftheBeginning17 I worry also we are doomed. I just hope I'm being overly pessimistic, but it seems we are truly watching a breakdown common knowledge, further separating the layman from the expert. Similar things happened due to the efforts of the church in the middle ages and I worry we are headed towards a digital dark age where facts are just a matter of opinion and indistinguishable from the scam.

    • @ricbat9078
      @ricbat9078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ditto, logged into our company account and got these recommendations yet we don't watch anything from that account.

    • @Whatsinanameanyway13
      @Whatsinanameanyway13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EndoftheBeginning17 The main flaw with "Idiocracy" is it's assumption that it will take a long time for humanity to get dumb enough to not be able to handle its basic needs.

  • @TheRealTomLauda
    @TheRealTomLauda ปีที่แล้ว +624

    I think we would have more chances of bringing down those channels by reporting them as AI generated, instead of going after the "quality" of the content they "produce". This is freaking scary how fast these tools are exploited against us.

    • @Kenton.
      @Kenton. ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Seriously. A month ago I just learned that ai voices could start making voiceovers for videos. Now they seem to be everywhere.

    • @tlrlml
      @tlrlml ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sure! It's not like Google has it's own AI dreams, or that these videos might not be a part of the process of realizing that dream!

    • @neatwheat
      @neatwheat ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's a good thing that Google's AI developer left his job there (even though he was way into retirement age already) to be able to openly speak his mind and about his worries concerning AI. Gives us some insight. We can only guess how many more experts at Google are bound contractually to be silent about their work, right?

    • @PowerScissor
      @PowerScissor ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Google can't even handle their own portfolio of ½ baked current products...they definitely don't have the capability to tackle this.
      For all I know they removed the thumbsdown feature specifically for these fake AI channels.

    • @animatewithdermot
      @animatewithdermot ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The only thing that will stop this is a change in LAW, not individual behaviour.

  • @Wadokujin
    @Wadokujin หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be fair, we have never seen Snoke and Jocasta Nu in the same room together.

  • @KeithC77-ux8vv
    @KeithC77-ux8vv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When all else fails, I’ve always got that most esteemed of old institutions-the library 😊

  • @ArnoldWind
    @ArnoldWind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

    I noticed this issue around 4 years ago, it's only become far worse since. TH-cam literally don't care about misinformation on their platform, such as the removal of dislikes.

    • @ar43r
      @ar43r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same. I even watched riddler myself bevor realizing after a 2 vid that ther is no essence there

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      yeah , they are too busy trying to remove the truth from their platform.

    • @caramelapple5562
      @caramelapple5562 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      if you also like knowing when videos have large amounts of dislikes, there are "return youtube dislike" extensions that at least seem to work well for me (of course i have no way of verifying)

    • @axelignis3488
      @axelignis3488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Its not even just the channels, I get constant scam ads about how "this (veteran/doctor/college student) is gonna destroy the billion dollar (select industry)" in a robotic voice. And we can't even begin to talk abour all those insane phone app ads

    • @AStoryteller-for-fun
      @AStoryteller-for-fun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah this had been a problem for quite sometime and is just growing day by day.

  • @Texasbluesalley
    @Texasbluesalley ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Thank you for documenting this. How the world’s biggest e-mail company who’s been catching spam for over a decade, cannot detect this stuff by now is really sad.

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Google has a strong financial incentive to not catch it

    • @Nonameron
      @Nonameron ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@scottabc72 That being? As far as I know, saturating the recommendations with AI content will simply make people watch less videos and thus spend less time on TH-cam.

    • @lastwymsi
      @lastwymsi ปีที่แล้ว +31

      ​@@Nonameron You think it would drive people away, but it doesnt. People watch it while glazed over. People let the algorhythm auto play. Its not about older generations who will leave it, its about harnessing gen Z and below who grew up getting farmed by the Algo.

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Nonameron That would be nice if it were true but its not. TH-cam has always benefited from having massive amounts of content which it can sell relatively cheaply to advertisers. More to the point this trash science content is usually pretty 'good' in its presentation and as this video pointed out, has features such as Elon Musk, ancient astronauts etc... that the algorithms know do get views. Cheap abundant content that gets views for the advertisers is what really matters.

    • @jackdixon6681
      @jackdixon6681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think you're looking at things wrongly. Even when platforms *do* catch these things, it just means that the producers adjust.
      Look at the way people figured out that swearing leads to demonetisation, so everyone now says Frick. Or unalive instead of dead. Or copyrighted clips being mirrored to avoid claims. Or 10:01 length videos to get midroll ads.
      Anything google does to catch scam science videos would be at best a temporary measure

  • @RBRT02
    @RBRT02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Crazy to see how many of those chanels don't have shorts. Even though that should be the easiest part to automate.

  • @aaronwan479
    @aaronwan479 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Is it just me or does bro look like thor

  • @TangiersIntrigue
    @TangiersIntrigue ปีที่แล้ว +514

    The thing that gets me about this topic is how, if this escalates, actual content creators might find themselves struggling to cut through the noise. Monetization through sheer quantity, preying on youtube's preferences, may lead us to a situation in which, in order to actually pay the bills and actually have success, content creators will find automation increasingly attractive.

    • @wastelander1015
      @wastelander1015 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This reminds me of Amazon. At first they would allow small brands to do business there but when a small business become very lucrative, Amazon would create a similar product and sell for a lower price, making the other business to slowly lose money and go bankrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if youtube is doing the same thing to rip off creators.

    • @dieptrieu6564
      @dieptrieu6564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Automation is the future, tho. But it need to be the good kind of automation, not these scams

    • @wastelander1015
      @wastelander1015 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@dieptrieu6564 this is exactly the type of automation you're going to get. It's cheap and it makes money. Take for example the replacement of hotline agents by chat gpt. You really want potential suicidal people to be talking to robots instead of a human being?

    • @WhatWillYouFind
      @WhatWillYouFind ปีที่แล้ว

      Ann and her channel How to Cook That is an example of this. 5 minute craps puts out dozens of videos a week and she barely does 1 a month. You can't beat content farms unless you're huge on the same level is PewDiePie once was, only accounts of that size have the reach to discount or refute bunk things in our era.
      We need a fundamental overhaul of the internet and it's regulations. Freedom is great, until you have little kids making bombs or literal terrorist cells pushing propaganda out to the masses. We need less profits and a more hands on approach to monitoring these things. With the advent of modern AI we will have the power to do so, whereas before it was impossible to scan or review the thousands upon tens of thousands of new video releases.

    • @dieptrieu6564
      @dieptrieu6564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@wastelander1015 Automation already exist in our world. It's why factory can produce mass product in large scale.
      In case you want to say that automation doesn't work with creative products. Then you should know that animation have been using automation for a long ass time, now. Otherwise we still would have to hand draw everything from scratch
      You use one example to show automation is bad despite it have nothing to do with the topic we currently talk about. While also ignoring all the benefit automation can bring. That's just a bad argument

  • @SirEatsCrackAlot
    @SirEatsCrackAlot ปีที่แล้ว +576

    My dad, one of the science communicator pioneers here in AUS, has spent most of his media career fighting against this kind of buzzword based style of reporting, and presenting pseudo science as though it's real science. As a long time viewer of your channel, I'm glad to see you not just opposed to this but actively informing people about it. Keep up the good fight, love your work.

    • @rodericklenz5030
      @rodericklenz5030 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Is your Dad Dr Karl?

    • @Cookies4Wookiees
      @Cookies4Wookiees ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be illegal for this fake shit to exist.

    • @grumpus_hominidae
      @grumpus_hominidae ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I had a bad feeling about this video since he used TH-cam as the subject, and, well, unfortunately, you have seen what happened. It's just not right. Kyle's trying to help, but TH-cam obviously profits off these bullsh-t channels, and they'll punish creators who call it out.

    • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme
      @itsgonnabeanaurfromme ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@grumpus_hominidae speaking of misinformation...
      TH-cam, at most, boosts high click shitty channels but to say something as stupid as youtube purposefully pulls down videos like his when he literally now has half a million views. That's crap. People working at youtube don't watch and fact check these videos.

    • @sergeysmyshlyaev9716
      @sergeysmyshlyaev9716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ' fighting against this kind of buzzword based style of reporting, and presenting pseudo science as though it's real science' - so he was fighting against Kurzgesagt and similar channels, right?

  • @solstratus8444
    @solstratus8444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are very right this needs to stop.

  • @lgnoramaLama
    @lgnoramaLama 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very important video! I've recognized that for longer now and they sneak into your feed so easily even with conspiracys and straight up nonsense unrelated to science or anything you watch, thats dangerous...

  • @BlackHistoryBuffTV
    @BlackHistoryBuffTV ปีที่แล้ว +571

    It’s not just science, it’s every single niche you can think of

    • @x-iso
      @x-iso ปีที่แล้ว +18

      yeah, and it's been going on for a long while now, Smarter Everyday have a 4 year old video on this topic, about auto-generated content that started flooding trends and recommendations.

    • @notDANGEROUSnot
      @notDANGEROUSnot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And in nearly every major language too.

    • @BlackHistoryBuffTV
      @BlackHistoryBuffTV ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@notDANGEROUSnot It’s the new version of email spam. What’s really interesting is when you start asking yourself “If the content is from bot/Ai farms, how much of the Watch time is?” Because if the content and views are fake then this is a problem that youtube cannot fix as it will affect everything from advertising spend to music streams and the share price of some major companies. Fake content and views could be the sub prime mortgages of the streaming era ! Now that’s a topic so one needs to make a video about

    • @randomshxt2099
      @randomshxt2099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

    • @adeadgirl13
      @adeadgirl13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! I was wondering about this because I saw this pattern in a lot of cooking channels. They at least have real video content of cooking. But all the footage across channels is similar and has good production value (doesn't feel like an individual trying to make a video in their kitchen). All the thumbnails and titles are same. There's no voiceover, just closed captions. Every channel is talking about how they like this dish so much that they make it everyday (for every third video). And they are reuploading the same videos with slightly different titles and thumbnails. And they upload very frequently and always at a fixed consistent frequency like they've been automated. And they either have a lot of views or very few views. (I guess that depends on which videos get picked up by the algorithm. And then they start spaming that same video over and over again.)
      I'm not sure if these are bots or just people taking the Mr. Beast approach to TH-cam to an extreme. Reverse engineer what works and only optimize for views. Eventually everyone does the same thing coz they're copying each other.

  • @WongCharoen
    @WongCharoen ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I've spent my life as a teacher, and I feel you big time on this one, Kyle. Fun is fun, but when it actively interferes with true education, it is offensive and painful to my mind and soul. Keep fighting the good fight!

  • @dr.timsmith5539
    @dr.timsmith5539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can usually tell within a few seconds if it’s bs or not

  • @notsure1198
    @notsure1198 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I knew it!!! Makes me so angry. It’s bad enough we have to deal with ads and Raid Shadow Legends… now we have this garbage. THANK YOU for showing us how to fight back.

  • @ceoatcrystalsoft4942
    @ceoatcrystalsoft4942 ปีที่แล้ว +719

    Wish more people had morals like you. The problem is the apparent anonymity of the internet and thinking no one will ever be held accountable for the harm they do. The best we can do is support those who actually make a difference

    • @djking881
      @djking881 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      250$ is no small amount, thank you for helping people make a difference!

    • @ObeyRL99
      @ObeyRL99 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@djking881 The money is great for a good cause. But anonymity in the internet is super important. It’s a TH-cam problem, not a anonymity problem.

    • @sanctionh2993
      @sanctionh2993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@ObeyRL99 Anonymity is the problem all over the internet, not just TH-cam. And not just the internet either.

    • @Nerb1
      @Nerb1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@djking881 250 philippino pesos is $5 US. And he is not the CEO at crystalsoft since they are in thialand and use thai baht. This highlighted comment is part of the problem that Kyle is talking about. We all have to be more wary.

    • @LeTtRrZ
      @LeTtRrZ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sanctionh2993 Anonymity is a tool that, like any other, can be used or abused. Anonymity isn’t an issue in and of itself. Misuse of it is.

  • @alanthefisher
    @alanthefisher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1081

    We have the same problem over in my corner of "infrastructure TH-cam" too. I foresee this becoming increasingly more problematic for miss-information and combating it. Thanks for making this video

    • @dani_lla
      @dani_lla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      I never thought I'd see the armchair urbanist himself in the comments of science thor...

    • @sarimsalman2698
      @sarimsalman2698 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I think the new wave of "trendy urbanism" has exploded you guys channels' but also led to people trying to farm all the new engagement. Love your videos btw, never thought I could be interested in trains, of all things, but here I am!

    • @AfricanLionBat
      @AfricanLionBat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had no clue infrastructure TH-cam was a thing but that is awesome in my opinion

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Honestly, looking at the viewcounts to these science videos, I think it's not a huge problem yet. They spam the videos out in a way that no human could, but they do not have a viewcount that I would associate with a human audience. What we are seeing is bots making content for bots.
      I think the longer term problem is that AI isn't useful for generating truth or new content without costly human intervention, but bad actors are going to put it on auto pilot producing plagiarizing content that is altered only very subtly. This will eventually have a severe impact on new content creation.

    • @tomsmith6513
      @tomsmith6513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This video that we just played is itself a scam video. lol :)

  • @TheLucanicLord
    @TheLucanicLord 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait, they claim an infringement and TH-cam just take their word for it and hand over the ad revenue?

  • @coreywest9305
    @coreywest9305 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad I figured this out in the early days of this. I still get channel recommendations like this, but I know better than to fall for that stuff

  • @Ginger_bit
    @Ginger_bit ปีที่แล้ว +1474

    The "Spam and Scams" report category is probably TH-cams most used option, and unfortunately the least enforced.
    That shotgun method does more than just overwhelm the algorithm, it also overwhelms the last two people at YT who actually do manual reviews.

    • @Nippleless_Cage
      @Nippleless_Cage ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What's a better idea?

    • @AylienYu
      @AylienYu ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I actually bet they have a mass reviewing system where they definitely notice if something gets reported multiple times. I believe mass reporting a scam most likely does work. At this day and age theres most likely not much individual manual reviewing involved.

    • @Ginger_bit
      @Ginger_bit ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@Nippleless_Cage Have over 100k subs and complain on twitter.
      In my 10+ years on the platform, I have rarely, if ever, seen TH-cam address something outside of this exact scenario.

    • @Ginger_bit
      @Ginger_bit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AylienYu I'll believe it when I see it.

    • @jensenraylight8011
      @jensenraylight8011 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Nippleless_Cage the better idea is, if you saw a video containing Elon Musk face or any AI,
      it was an auto spam flag

  • @accordingtoangela
    @accordingtoangela ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I recently found out by accident how they are making this. There’s an editor called Descript. It’s $144/year and you record your voice and it learns your cadences so when you copy and paste your script that is mostly likely farmed through chat gpt, it is recited automatically in your voice. To top it off, they have drag and drop access to millions of stock images and video. Takes 30 minutes tops. Its very….concerning.

    • @freelancerthe2561
      @freelancerthe2561 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      so they fed it a bunch of Kurzgesagt (or another narrator voice for that matter), and it learned to mimic it? The new era of deepfakes is under way.

    • @cerebrumexcrement
      @cerebrumexcrement ปีที่แล้ว +23

      a lot of these videos dont even bother sounding human

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@cerebrumexcrement they certainly can't do nuance and inflection. Tone is all wrong . Dead giveaway is end of sentences 💀

    • @jackd1582
      @jackd1582 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This needs to be pinned

    • @syproful
      @syproful ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s the AI feedback loop we all should be afraid of. What is credible or not over the long term. For that i’m sure that internet will become a fully signed environment. Including plain text such as ASCII. It’s also the only way to see who or what(AI) wrote something. The wildwest that is the internet still now, will have to move to let’s say the darknet.

  • @Rubbly
    @Rubbly 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    More and more AI TTS videos! When visiting my Grandma, she just had one playing in the background, it was so distracting to me but she couldn't tell the difference!

  • @WhoopDePoopDeScoop
    @WhoopDePoopDeScoop 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "The bong rips of science content" love it

  • @jae52247
    @jae52247 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I am glad I am not the only one that noticed it. Even during the commissioning phase of the James Webb Space Telescope, there were videos about “scary” or “shocking” discoveries that it made.

    • @JustABaptistApoligist
      @JustABaptistApoligist ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Especially one channel called Future Unity, total scam and fake

    • @frozenthirdyear
      @frozenthirdyear ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JustABaptistApoligist Good to know my gut feeling was right on it being BS!

    • @pressplayulysses
      @pressplayulysses ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@JustABaptistApoligist I basically blocked them.
      Their videos will make you go "Yeah, we know that, yeah that one also, yeah, yea-WILL YOU GET TO THE POINT ALREADY?!?"

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also pseudo newsletters makes that.... Shocked the world .... XY feared the new discovery... If not simple piss me off clickbait, pure shit 😂

    • @robertmaxey5406
      @robertmaxey5406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I took note of the same thing. I might do my pumpkin pie video and reveal the shocking things they don't want you to know. Or perhaps a makeup channel.

  • @GaymerJenn
    @GaymerJenn ปีที่แล้ว +2381

    Sorry TH-cam unfairly demonetized this video. Your fans appreciate your hard work and integrity. ❤️

    • @derekwhidden9730
      @derekwhidden9730 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      They did? It would seem then that TH-cam gains as much as the spammers then.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      TH-cam makes a lot of money off of junk from content farms. They claim they don’t support such material, but they totally do. Pointing it out is an easy way to get demonetized.

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      ​@@derekwhidden9730 fcourse. TH-cam gets money by clicks just like the creators.

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      ​@@evilsharkey8954 if they didn't support these people/content they would have actively removed it

    • @niedas3426
      @niedas3426 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@evilsharkey8954 That's such bull. Sorry but while I'm not exactly fond of YT, they know it's in their best interest to not let these videos flood their site. A site with user generated content lives and dies by that content.
      Though sometimes, when I look at how they demonetise creators and let bots run rampant, I'm not entirely sure how in touch the C suites are with the state of youtube. I'm sure there's a lot of people at YT who have their heads on straight, but all it takes is one person in a position of power to not aknowledge the problem, and then you're effed.
      My best bet is that they want to keep moderation costs as low as possible while keeping a minimum so that it doesn't become a lawless wasteland.

  • @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
    @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the how to complain section. Going to apply it to the Discovery Institute videos.

  • @RBRT02
    @RBRT02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the few videos with a small short description of the contents in the description. More people should do that!

  • @AUKronos
    @AUKronos ปีที่แล้ว +244

    This epidemic of science spam reached my algorithm quite quickly as it's a genre I've been following for a few years from genuine content creators and channels like PBSSpaceTime, Cool Worlds, SEA, History of the Universe (just to name a few)
    The common trend in determining which channels aren't worth our time are the frequency of the uploads. If a channel is pumping out multiple uploads a day, it's not genuine. By quickly checking the upload frequency, you're not giving them views.
    Thank you for bringing this to light and exposing the clickbait side of this genre.

    • @Mythicalreign22
      @Mythicalreign22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love SEA

    • @Pulko172
      @Pulko172 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We noticed that some users are avoiding some videos based on when they were uploaded. This hurts the creators so we decided to remove the info of when the video was uploaded.

    • @chubbydinosaur9148
      @chubbydinosaur9148 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@Pulko172 oh god no, don't give them ideas

    • @oskarskalski2982
      @oskarskalski2982 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Mythicalreign22 Me too, SEA is great for listening just before going to sleep:), the same with history of the universe. And for those scam channels, I used the same technique that Kyle is describing. And when I'm seeing Michio Kaku my alarm bells go off:D. It's sad to see that such a nice science communicator went so far off.

    • @tpbenze5032
      @tpbenze5032 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve had this problem too I’m glad he made a video I thought I was going crazy. I’ve been a big fan of scishow and pbs and all the science type channels for years so this hit me pretty quickly once they popped up

  • @shiva369
    @shiva369 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +362

    I've noticed the increase in these spam channels in history subjects, too. It's one of the looming AI downsides we can all see happening literally before our eyes

    • @ringofkaren
      @ringofkaren 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I love the history channel where they tell you every historic figure was actually black, Netflix is not far of anyway.

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      There are plenty of good history and science channels, if you look. I bookmark them in my browser and keep returning to them. BBC Earth, Stefan Milo, PBS Eons, Nature, National Geographic, The History Guy, Chicago Stories, American Experience, etc. I don't use YT's algorithm, and find good channels myself.

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@ringofkaren No, History Channel says everyone is an alien.

    • @shiva369
      @shiva369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @zyxw2000 yes, I'm very familiar with most of those and will check out the others you mentioned. Cheers

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shiva369 I've been on YT many years, and just learned recently about the algorithm. I've never used it, always found my own channels.

  • @patrowan7206
    @patrowan7206 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People not only seem increasingly unable to recognize quality and substance when they see it, but may actively be rejecting it.

    • @user95395
      @user95395 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      for sure, reality isn't hella lit like word salad clickbait that you "huh huh huh... RATIO'd!!!" to

  • @justanotherhappyhumanist8832
    @justanotherhappyhumanist8832 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Omg these channels have been driving me crazy for the past decade! Thank you for calling them out! They are partially to blame for today's scientific illiteracy!

  • @kelbybrewer2038
    @kelbybrewer2038 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +812

    As a former Ridddle subscriber that left when they started spewing about how the Moon is apparently hollow, I've been waiting for someone like you to talk about this.

    • @davemccombs
      @davemccombs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

      Aw, you missed them claiming scientists found evidence for dragons the other day.

    • @m3redgt
      @m3redgt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@davemccombs i like the other theory better that they were real because ancient people around the world (who had no way of communicating about those creatures) had art about them but there aren't any fossils of dragons because they had hollow bones like birds and they degraded too quickly to turn fossil

    • @hiimapop7755
      @hiimapop7755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Left when they started going wild with their video ideas after their 1 googol years video, which was pretty much at the start of their channel years ago. Regretted subbing to them after seeing their uploads over the course of a year since their videos were so out of touch like the fake science channels that are common today. They're even more disappointing to look at today, just looking at their most recent uploads.

    • @m3redgt
      @m3redgt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hiimapop7755 easy money, minimal effort
      it gets to peoples head...
      also the fact that this video here is still up.. but their "reply" isn't.. speaks volumes

    • @grendab
      @grendab 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      dude same they used to make half-decant stuff and then they just didnt

  • @haraldgriefbacon1373
    @haraldgriefbacon1373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +820

    It is almost always very easy to spot misinformation, whether in science, history, finance, or politics. The real problem is that so many people don't really care, as long as they are being told what they want to hear.

    • @jettmthebluedragon
      @jettmthebluedragon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yep it’s true 😐it’s like look up spooky s house of jump scares and read specimen 11s jump scare speach 😐sometimes I say let the stupid people play themselves 😐if your loved one dies from your stupidity that’s YOUR problem 😑

    • @Gusenichka925
      @Gusenichka925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@jettmthebluedragon?

    • @starlight4649
      @starlight4649 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      If you have a decent understanding of any topic, spotting misinformation is super easy
      But the target audience doesn't have a decent understanding. It's either kids or adults who don't know the difference.

    • @wildflower1397
      @wildflower1397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The problem is that those who are ignorant about the topic are most likely to believe the misinformation. Yet, they are the ones who most need the education.

    • @jettmthebluedragon
      @jettmthebluedragon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@wildflower1397 true 😑to me I don’t believe in anything to me it’s rather true or not 😐

  • @kamj2948
    @kamj2948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another problems is when you click those videos, the actual video doesn't relate to the thumbnail or the title. It's all just spam

  • @katecone2295
    @katecone2295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It blows my mind just how many subscribers some of these channels have. I'm going to be more vigilant when I choose to sub to a channel.

  • @kylehill
    @kylehill  ปีที่แล้ว +10180

    *Thanks for watching.* Who knows if this will help, bit I'll do what I can.

    • @chimkinNuggz
      @chimkinNuggz ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Thank u for making this vid. Ive seen science videos like these channels recommened to me all the time 😒

    • @Stickmanght
      @Stickmanght ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Thanks for calling out this BS that is polluting our collective efforts to learn, and educate.

    • @historicaltidbits
      @historicaltidbits ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I'm confident it helps.

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron ปีที่แล้ว +10

      man you are like me i however go right at them
      its cause they use flashy thumb nails
      and if you look at them they are all ina kinda group of people that are and have been faking

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron ปีที่แล้ว

      they steal old shows put in stuff thats now wrong add there own politics and misinformation and its put up wiht a thumbnail
      and it is very offensive to see people tought string theory when years ago now its been proven false

  • @JabberW00kie
    @JabberW00kie ปีที่แล้ว +390

    I’ve never seen your channel before, but I’m glad someone is calling this out. I too began noticing the similarities between these channels and can usually spot them immediately when they pop up in my algorithm. They often have sensational trigger words like “terrifying” or “shocking” or “scientists can’t explain” in the title. It’s somewhat similar to tabloids from back in the day.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is one of the better popsci channels, along with all the others he name dropped. If you don't recognize any of those, either, they are all highly recommended (scishow (like 5+ different version), veritasium, vsause, steve mould, so, so many).

    • @warrensteel9954
      @warrensteel9954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This channel is well worth a sub.

    • @TheRenofox
      @TheRenofox ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same to both. The science spam phenomenon just popped up like decoy links and comments in the past. All as a direct results of TH-cam removing the downvotes.

    • @UnderGroundMerlin
      @UnderGroundMerlin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kindlin StyroPyro is another good creator. CodysLab, Nile Red, Anton Petrov is a new one I found like a year ago. He delivers some really good space information. Geologyhub for seismic activity stuff.

    • @panner11
      @panner11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheRenofox I also blame Bright Side for this. It's a "science" channel with almost 50 mil subs and a few years ago became the most subscribed "science" channel out there. But all it is a nonstop factory of misleading and poorly researched content that uploads more than once a day. Although the content isn't auto-generated, it becoming the most subscribed "science" channel despite it's poor quality showed that you find success in this genre through clickbait alone. I'm sure these channels saw bright side as evidence of feasibility for the success of their scams. This format of video is very reminiscent of typical Bright Side videos.
      The worst part is the only way these channels including Bright Side get any views is probably because of kids. The videos aren't clever and it's hard to see many adults that would find it engaging.

  • @graynoble4795
    @graynoble4795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been wondering about this. Thank you for your video.