Bass Straight passage FAILURE. (Learning By Doing Ep215)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Off we go, across the Bass Straight to Tasmania. We didnt get very far though, first the Jib halyard broke then after fixing that and sailing on one of the job sheets snapped. That was enough, I lost all trust in the running rigging and for the first time ever we turned back. Back to Eden to order lots of expensive ropes to replace the entire running rigging on Trade Runner.
You win some, you lose some, we mainly just lost. Better to turn back than have big troubles further on though.
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We use some different colour heat shrink on our lines that are the same colour. We find that helps. Sail Safe Guys, Ant & Cid.
Yep, I've seen shrink-wrap used, very nice and faster I guess.
Dam! Good call though. Also I know it sucks the jib sheet snapped, but from a fellow creator how good that you managed to capture it actually happening 🤣🤣 second time round that is at least. It's near impossible to get moments like that on film. Trade Runner looked like she was flying along otherwhys
haha, yeah 95% of the time youre just telling what broke. This was the 2nd time we've caught something like that. 1st was when Marie filmed me fly my drone straight into the ocean.
Not a fail at all...Good seamanship indeed, You must have faith in the boat and all its bits. Cheers.
What a hoot, came across your videos by accident, and really enjoyed them, and couldn't get over that common accent, another Kiwi and after I checked you out ur from Mouteka in the South Island. I lived in Nelson for a year before I got into the film industry and spent a lot of time in Auckand sailing various catamarans over to the Barrier, living on them 4 3 weeks at a time and racing them in the multihull association. Great stuff mate keep it up. I'm on youtube and all that crap, but now raising capital for film projects. Great what you are doing. I'll follow with interest.
Yeah Rex, stoked you found our channel mate. We're planning on sailing over to Nzee later this year.
Hi Vernon and Marie, Kim Philley SV Philiosophy I was in Tassie for the duration of Covid. Left Hobart early May 2022 and am now in Indo these last six months. I am wondering if I don't know that boat. Was the last owners American. From Saint Helens Oregon. let me know if you like. Could be informative for you....Cheers...Kim
Hi Kim. How are you liking Indo so far? was are missing it for sure. Trade Runner was owned by a local from Nelson Bay these last 10 years.
@@SailingLearningByDoing Ok Different boat. Liking Indo fine. Lots of good biking around Sanur, which is important to me and uncommon in SE Asia. Loved my time in Tassie. Met my forever Tassie Sailing Girl there.
Cheers...Kim Dont know where your timeline is if your already in Tassie. Bass Straights for me is a crossinb I arrive at fuly ready to motor across if thats the window I get. To treacherous by far to cross when the wind gets up. Cheers..Kim treacherous
I'm a little surprised you guy's attempted to cross Bass Straight with running rigging in that condition. Just remember 1998 Sydney Hobart race!
yep me too
Smart move… safety first.. stuff happens when you buy a “new” boat for you… chances are you will replace a few more things. Probably need more redundancy on tackle and other equipment.
Yeah exactly, changing out the entire running rigging to have a safe base now.
Great video, I'm looking forward to seeing the standing rigging videos in the future
Hi Vernon and Marie. I really like your sailing channel because it’s real. When a downer happens, as they invariably do, you show them and do not try to hide it. There are plenty of good times that you highlight as well and these outweigh the occasional struggle, but that’s sailing and that’s why we love it.
Thanks for that!
You made the right call to turn back. There's always the unknown when buying anything secondhand, at least now you will know the running gear is all new and won't give anymore problems. Hopefully you will have the time to check everything else over and get anything else up to spec, then you will have the confidence in the boat for any passage. Glad I found your channel, I really enjoy your video's.
Hi Wayne and welcome to our channel, I ope you'll enjoy some of our older content too. Just having all the running rigging changed out for new now gives me a base that I can be confident in. Thanks for watching.
I'm so happy you're back. I hope you are feeling better. Good plan. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Thanks so much!
Giday beautiful people, with the screecher sheets, we put small conduit all along the life lines, so any line or sheet just runs over it , no chaffing and harnesses life line still runs smooth. Really enjoy the channel, peace of mind with new running rigging is priceless. Awesome stuff Aussies 🇦🇺👍🌈 argh boat maintenance, ya gotta do it!!! Go hard or go home🤣😂
thanks! Yeah some protection of the safety rails would be good, sorta needs to be done when making the lines though. I guess I could use electrical conduit and then tape it all the way along.
@@SailingLearningByDoing yeh good call, hope ur both safe, well and having fun.
Vernon I forgot to add to make your halyards with excess length so you can cut off chafe where halyard goes over sheave. You probably have already planned for this...
yea for sure. always a few extra meters
You mentioned that the halyard de-cored itself whereas what I think you mean is that the sheath failed but the core was fine.
The strength of course is in the core not the sheath and the sheath is only there to assist line handling and to be easier on the hands. When you think lines are getting a little old in the future you can end for end them so the jammer bites the sheath in a different place.
Lines in reasonable condition can be put in the washing machine and you would be surprised how a lot of stiffness disappears and they come out subtle (the abrasive salt and dirt is gone). If the sheath is however in bad condition putting them through the washing machine will alert you because heaps of fluff will be torn off the sheath and be all over the washing machine.
The clean break in the jib sheet through core and sheath is however a whole other issue. Wow!
Good judgement to turn back and replace the running rigging. Stay safe and thank you.
You bet
Great video, as always. For what it’s worth: when taking line off a spool (even a small spool with light messenger line like Marie had) it’s better to run something through the spool and pull the line off as the spool turns, rather than taking it off the way she did. This will eliminate “hockles” or kinks". This is especially important with larger diameter line, you’ll save yourself a lot of trouble doing this with the halyards. Hope you get a good window soon!
Thanks John. Yeah we realised that it ran better with a screwdriver through the spool.
Wish I was there
How disappointing was it that you turned around ? Marie said this was the first time you had to turn back . I think you made the right decision . The running rigging was starting to fail and like you said if the furler rope broke that would turned into a BIG HASSLE . As always another great video . Thank you for sharing .
I hate going back, really! This time it was the right call though, Bass Straight is not to be taken lightly and these things breaking at 2am in 3m swells would have been a much different story.
Another great video, love your channel guys, straight forward and no BS, safe travels
thanks mate, thats out aim really. No fake drama
Thanks
Live to sail another day. Better to be at anchor wishing you were at sea, than being at sea wishing you were at anchor. Excellent seamanship.
yeah for sure, specially when facing Bass Strait
Your past experiences gave you the right hints to go back and indeed fix the running rigging.. It all looks simple in the harbor but at sea, once something gives it can become a big issue pretty fast..
Hey…"Learning by doing" had a very pointed example…
Keep up the good work..
Thanks 👍
Dear Vernon and Marie, luckily these problems showed up early and you are able to replace. BTW a technique we have used in the past for longer voyages was to regularly change halyard tensions to alleviate chafe especially Spin halyard, moving it every 4hrs. Please advise us all of who your supplier will be, if you can. Glad to see you both well and good luck with the weather. Again great vid Best wishes
Thanks Rick. I'm doing a couple of videos about re-rigging so I'll talk about the rope supplier then.
@12:04 Marie correctly noticed the messenger line was “twisting a lot.” You are lucky to have such an observant partner. Is it possible that each time she was taking a coil off while keeping the reel stationary in her hand a line twist was created. Would it be better to put a dowel through the reel and let the reel turn to run untwisted line out?
Your sailing videos are fascinating and the new boat is amazing. You made a good call to return to Eden and renew the running rigging. You definitely identified the critical line to be the furling line.
Yep, a screwdriver or dowel would have been better for sure. Learning By Doing
Great episode. Can't wait for the next. Enjoy!
What is the name of your new boat?
Trade Runner.
Good video and wise decision to turn back given the state of the halyards. Fun fact, I had my jib furling rope breaking on one of my last sail, in Moreton bay beating in 15-20 knts wind... Thanksfully I was able to carry full jib (2reefs in the main) up to the leeway of an island and able to drop the jib on my own and motor sail the few last miles. On a passage I would have runned back square downwind after fixing the furling rope, to rewind it around the furler and hoist the jib back up... A bit of a hassle but not a big deal if you have searoom and everything to fix it. Also a tip to not twist the mouse line: put the spool on a stick or a bit of 4mm rope through the center and let it unroll. Your mouse line is now twisted inside the mast and it might cause issues when running the new halyards. Hope to catch-up with you soon. 🙂 Maybe we ll' race.. 😉
Good to hear that you got that sorted with no issues. I could just imagine it happening to us at 2am in a thunder/rain storm in 4m swells in the middle of Bass Strait. No racing for us until the standing rigging and chain plates are replaced.
That boat looks likes it really moves great, and I think (someone) is really happy with the new boat! Thanks for sharing 👍
We still really dont have a solid feeling for this boat, haven't done enough miles yet.
Great idea to have all the lines measured in a list. BTW many people incorrectly name clutches as jammers. Those are clutches on your mast. Yes, most forget how essential a furling line is in strong wind. Did you get into the local oysters? André in Sydney
I'm not a big fan of Oysters, Marie likes them though.
That was a bit of a bugger, you would have thought that the people you bought the boat from could of mentioned that the lines were in a state of disrepair, it could have been much worse if you had carried on, glad your both safe.
well it was up to me to check everything really. I changed what I thought was most necessary but obviously didnt change enough.
The boat attitude is looking really good under sail there guys @1:40. Slight nose down attitude, stern not dragging the water. Nice looking vessel there you two.
Yeah she sits in the water nicely but we just haven't done enough miles in her yet to know her that well yet.
Is it an optical illusion or should you tighten the genoa and jib stay more.
I congratulate you and I am very happy that you have your new cat
The jib(inner one) has th forestay inside and is very tight. The Screecher(outer) is just a light air sail. When using it I tighten it up but when not in use I'll slack it off a bit so it doesn't stretch.
It's spelt Bass Strait ...