@@liqidvenom People try to record the whole lap sometimes, but at speed it's nearly impossible, so why bother? Each to their own obviously, but just enjoy it.
Hot oil (and coolant) temps on the track is just sort of the natural state for the 3.2L VR6. I've got an oil cooler on my Mk4 R32 and still only get about 3-4 hot laps on a typical track before having to back off. I've thought about doing a water mister on the radiator/oil cooler. And yes, the VR6 has an a small oil/water heat exchanger which is part of the reason why coolant temps spike when oil temp does.
In the UK I can normally get around 6-8 hot laps but the day was hot. In the UK the car is normally on track in 12°-18° heat, but that day it was around 28°-34°.
@@fritzmueller1337 Ya I have an air/oil cooler. I added it same time I added a turbo so generating even more heat now. But even N/A (without the aftermarket cooler) it could overheat pretty quickly when pushing 10/10ths..
I bought a blue 2008 VW R32 with DSG in 2011. I really loved the sound of that stock engine. For as long as I owned it, I had real shitty gas mileage because I was always doing hard accelerations. It was a beast in the snow and cruised effortlessly at highway speeds. I really loved that car, but i got rid of it in 2015 because it was starting to have rust issues that I didn't want to deal with. As my first AWD car, I was spoiled with its winter performance and decided to never go back to non AWD cars. My next car (and current car) is a gorgeous white 2010 Audi TTS with magnetic ride--a far superior car in almost every way. It's lighter, faster, less nose heavy so it handles better, but is a bit less practical in cargo room. I'm getting much better gas mileage mainly because the exhaust note is nothing special, and my driving style is now far more mature and civilized. As low as it is, it's even better in the snow than the R32 and has been reliable. I'll be driving it until the wheels fall off...but I sure do miss that Wookie howl from that VR6 in the R32--one of the best stock exhaust notes that I've ever heard.
love it or hate it, but the mk5 was the last of its kind. Every top level golf after this has been a 2.0l 4 banger. Sure, they're faster, but I personally would rather drive something "unique"
God forbid VW goes back to a more reliable platform. Were the first few generations of golf’s soulless then? VR platform was just a testbed. At least we got a Bugatti W16 from it.
@@Simracingisgoated the point I'm making is about character, not reliability. If it was about reliability, we would be discussing undersized piston rings causing excessive oil consumption on the ea888. Regarding early gen Golfs: I don't think you're getting my point. Take the mk4 for example. At the upper end you got the 1.8T, the 2.3VR5, and the 2.8/3.2VR6. And now take the mk6. Gone are all the fun engine options, a 2.0 I4 is all thats left. But its not just VW group - mercedes does it too. Volvo is another example, their change to the VEA family eliminated all fun engine options too. And there's plenty more examples.
ive been watching this guys MK5 R32 on another racing channel for the past 2 years on/off. I thought i was dreaming when I saw the same car on Misha's channel!! Christmas came early boys!!!!
Every Mk IV and V R32 is heavy, slow and thirsty by today's standards. But damn, that SOOOOUND! If you know you know. Absolute shame that we have to put up with 4 cylinder fart cannons nowadays.
R32 (& R36) are just VR6 engines with 4 valves per cylinder and larger displacement than the original VR6 2 valve / cyl engines with 2,8 or 2,9l. Inbetween there was also a 24v 2,8l VR6 that was in the Golf 4, that Volkswagen called V6 instead of VR6 :) (Edit after additional research 😄): versions of the 3,2, and 3,6l VR6, also came with stratified direct injection (FSI), but I'm not sure this 3,2l in the Golf 5 already had it.
Yup! I had a Golf mk4 v6 4motion (2.8l haldex 4wd) manual which to this day is the car I most regret selling. Then had an Audi S4 b6 (v8) and a Subaru Outback H6 before going back to the v/vr6 with a poor mans R32 - an Audi A3 3.2 quattro dsg which I will run until it dies. Something about the v/vr6 engines, they have so much soul.
MiSha I truly wish I had a car worthy to experience the UNBELIEVABLE driving you master..I recently started to watch the diabolical, in a good way driving you do and watch in amazement Brother!.... StaySafe 👍🤜🏽
Curious what duration cams. 40HP gain is probably a little optimistic for cams+remap on the VR6. Glad to see all the good supporting mods. Also weird seeing a manual MK5 R32 since they were DSG only in the US. Haldex remap/controller and rear diff could be nice to do next. Also oil cooler as Misha mentioned. On these cars there's a heat exchanger where radiator/water is used to cool oil. There's block offs for this to seperate the two loops if you end up getting a dedicated oil cooler.
40+- hp with cams and a remap is not that difficult on the 3.2 engine. We have some here in Denmark, that dynoed 290-+ hp with the same setup (i dont know the duration on the cams though) But it is possible :-)
@@game-unlimited749 What I've seen in the US is ~240 to the front wheels with remap, cams, full exhaust, intake. Probably depends on how kind the dyno is.
@@Shady97342 i’ve only seen dyno results with cams, remap, and a colder thermostat, But it could be fun to see a setup with the stuff you mention on the dyno, and a setup with only cams and a remap on the dyno, and see How the curve behaves on the 2 setups :)
The car actually made 289.58bhp on the dyno. The cams I am using are schrick 268/272. I am in the process or trying to sort the over heating oil out, however it was 28°-34° that day.
@@N4thJ Nice I have the same cams! VR's run warm so I'm not surprised. Definitely look into an oil cooler! I'm happy to see an R32 being tracked. Thanks for sharing with us.
Top trim Vw group's cars of that era have always that blueish hue on the intruments and had great readibility. I wonder if they used to put on some kind of anti reflective coating as used in some high end watches.
290 PS dyno or estimated /guess ? :). You should add the second water cooler from the Golf MKV R32 DSG to get more water cooling and the racimex oil cooler kit with 80c thermostat.
@@N4thJ 130 isnt that bad. depending on oil type you could go up to 140. Had that on the trackday with same conditions but short slow track. with Misha driving it had around 124-127, also no extra Oil cooler but MK4 R32 DSG with 278 PS on the Dyno, Aircondition running ;). Like said add the MK5 R32 DSG extra Water cooler (1K0 121 212C with aircab 1K0 121 333B). Will bring the water temp down, also extra oil cooler, mybe setrab slim line extra long in front or laying down like in the bmw. Good thing is you already have no direct belt drive steering pump :).
Is there somebody Who has a 2.5 v6 ti .alfa busso engine in there car .brings me back to 92 when Alfa Romeo startert in Dtm(im living in a hospice for 10 months right now😮
Bro just roasted 95% of the world's population that uses the metric system...not our fault you yanks want to be different with your imperial nonsense no hard feelings :)
Thank you so much Misha for the lap. Had an amazing time, a few things to sort ready for next year now. See you then. Thanks
This thing is sick mate. Thank you for sharing this with us
Nice car mate. 290bhp is impressive too with cams and a map. I kept mine despite buying a B7 RS4. There’s just something special about the R32
What kind of spoiler is mounted?
@@blacklist1228custom made 1of 1 mate, it only vibrates atm as I had to make it removalable so now it moves a little. I have work to do with it still
@@N4thJ Thanks for the information. It‘s looking very nice👌
Finally someone who truly loves the experience, not trying to film with their smartphone. Lovely car, beautiful N/A sounds.
Thank you
It's stupid to film it anyway when you can see it all on youtube
Misha himself has used a cell phone to record when he has been a passenger before, not sure the big deal
@@liqidvenom People try to record the whole lap sometimes, but at speed it's nearly impossible, so why bother? Each to their own obviously, but just enjoy it.
People can ultimately do what they want, if the people that judged everyone kept their opinions to themselves it would be a much better world.
Not just an R32, but a 6MT R32!
Very nice. These were DSG only here in NA. While I do love the DSG a lot (my MK7 is DSG). A 6MT Wookie would be sick.
Not even....dsg is the best brodie...even on r32's
Use some rubber bushings under the spoiler bolt holes and that will help eliminate the rattle
Great idea, thanks. I will see if that helps
it could be the non bolted sections seperating then slapping back
Hot oil (and coolant) temps on the track is just sort of the natural state for the 3.2L VR6. I've got an oil cooler on my Mk4 R32 and still only get about 3-4 hot laps on a typical track before having to back off. I've thought about doing a water mister on the radiator/oil cooler. And yes, the VR6 has an a small oil/water heat exchanger which is part of the reason why coolant temps spike when oil temp does.
Y not install a dedicated oil to air cooler?
In the UK I can normally get around 6-8 hot laps but the day was hot. In the UK the car is normally on track in 12°-18° heat, but that day it was around 28°-34°.
Really cool info!
@@fritzmueller1337 Ya I have an air/oil cooler. I added it same time I added a turbo so generating even more heat now. But even N/A (without the aftermarket cooler) it could overheat pretty quickly when pushing 10/10ths..
Add 2 in series then you get twice the cooling but no pressure loss
One of the best sounding V6
Or is it an inline 6? 🤔😜
You forgot about Alfa......
that's not a V but ok mate.
That would be e46 m3
And slowest
Love the sound of this thing dude
it's super slow tho.
@@charly.1312 maybe I'm getting old, but I'd prefer sounds over speed
Look at how Misha cares for the oil temps, this is what you need when someone is on track with your car! I remember being super paranoid with my MK5.
I bought a blue 2008 VW R32 with DSG in 2011. I really loved the sound of that stock engine. For as long as I owned it, I had real shitty gas mileage because I was always doing hard accelerations. It was a beast in the snow and cruised effortlessly at highway speeds. I really loved that car, but i got rid of it in 2015 because it was starting to have rust issues that I didn't want to deal with. As my first AWD car, I was spoiled with its winter performance and decided to never go back to non AWD cars. My next car (and current car) is a gorgeous white 2010 Audi TTS with magnetic ride--a far superior car in almost every way. It's lighter, faster, less nose heavy so it handles better, but is a bit less practical in cargo room. I'm getting much better gas mileage mainly because the exhaust note is nothing special, and my driving style is now far more mature and civilized. As low as it is, it's even better in the snow than the R32 and has been reliable. I'll be driving it until the wheels fall off...but I sure do miss that Wookie howl from that VR6 in the R32--one of the best stock exhaust notes that I've ever heard.
That revs so well for a vr6 - those cams have definitely made a difference to the top end. Sounds great too.
My thoughts exactly
The sound ressemble the GTR R35. I agree with Misha
love it or hate it, but the mk5 was the last of its kind. Every top level golf after this has been a 2.0l 4 banger. Sure, they're faster, but I personally would rather drive something "unique"
Yep. No soul or character with the 2.0 4 pots. The emotion of the R32 is worth the reduction in power alone.
God forbid VW goes back to a more reliable platform. Were the first few generations of golf’s soulless then? VR platform was just a testbed. At least we got a Bugatti W16 from it.
@@Simracingisgoated the point I'm making is about character, not reliability. If it was about reliability, we would be discussing undersized piston rings causing excessive oil consumption on the ea888.
Regarding early gen Golfs: I don't think you're getting my point. Take the mk4 for example. At the upper end you got the 1.8T, the 2.3VR5, and the 2.8/3.2VR6. And now take the mk6. Gone are all the fun engine options, a 2.0 I4 is all thats left.
But its not just VW group - mercedes does it too. Volvo is another example, their change to the VEA family eliminated all fun engine options too. And there's plenty more examples.
@@Simracingisgoated lol find me an unreliable VR6 they are bulletproof
The newer R golfs are essentially a Gti with AWD. No more vr6 to make them extra special
Falling headliner, golfs tend to have that when they become 10 years old 😅
it's a must 😂
穏やかな表情のオーナーさんと、傷だらけの凶暴な顔つきのR32のギャップが良い。
途中残念だったが、見た目同様野獣の雄叫びを発するR32が素晴らしかった。
ive been watching this guys MK5 R32 on another racing channel for the past 2 years on/off. I thought i was dreaming when I saw the same car on Misha's channel!! Christmas came early boys!!!!
That warble is just awesome
3:45 that cut was actually diabolical. Imagine being in that m2 😂😂
Every Mk IV and V R32 is heavy, slow and thirsty by today's standards.
But damn, that SOOOOUND! If you know you know.
Absolute shame that we have to put up with 4 cylinder fart cannons nowadays.
Audi tt vr6 and audi a3 vr6.
Heavy by today's standars? A 3 door manual weights the same as an actual hot hatch with 4 cylinders and FWD
@@elazotacunaos4752 1500 / 1600 kg ?? 🤔
heavy ?
my mk V tdi 4motion weights +/-250kg less then my parents mk8 1.5 FSI
@@xeon_1705 heuuu ... no
Sounds amazing and looked like it handled superb ❤
@@JustbeingHayden thanks mate
I love how Misha looks like he is driving at daily traffic completely relaxed while going 200+ km/h
That second gear change caused him so much pain xD 1:54
It sounds mega 🎉
Looks like that extra power needs some cooling attention. Good sound!
125c on the oil is fairly toasty for a na! Looks like a warm day thought.
it was 130 when misha slowed down.
Depends on the oil. And that's hot for a forced induction engine as well.😬
BR from my W.C. :)
(15 mins later I can't feel my legs)
R32 (& R36) are just VR6 engines with 4 valves per cylinder and larger displacement than the original VR6 2 valve / cyl engines with 2,8 or 2,9l. Inbetween there was also a 24v 2,8l VR6 that was in the Golf 4, that Volkswagen called V6 instead of VR6 :) (Edit after additional research 😄): versions of the 3,2, and 3,6l VR6, also came with stratified direct injection (FSI), but I'm not sure this 3,2l in the Golf 5 already had it.
Externally are all the blocks the same size? Just bore differences ?
3.2 vr6 bmj,bub etccc are all with out FSI only the passat has the 3.2 fsi engine and some other models...
Golf audi a3 and tt are without fsi
Yup! I had a Golf mk4 v6 4motion (2.8l haldex 4wd) manual which to this day is the car I most regret selling. Then had an Audi S4 b6 (v8) and a Subaru Outback H6 before going back to the v/vr6 with a poor mans R32 - an Audi A3 3.2 quattro dsg which I will run until it dies. Something about the v/vr6 engines, they have so much soul.
Passat 3.2fsi vr6 has slightly bigger pistons and shorter stroke than R32 mk4/mk5 had. Edit: also cylinder angle was little different.
Sound to my ears
Crazzy 🔥🔥
It definitely receives a homeland speed boost
Amazing sound with good handling! What a pity the oíl temperature. I hope with new modifications you can solve the problem. Put a V6 in your live!!!
Love the sound, specialy being NA.
MiSha I truly wish I had a car worthy to experience the UNBELIEVABLE driving you master..I recently started to watch the diabolical, in a good way driving you do and watch in amazement Brother!....
StaySafe
👍🤜🏽
is that the top 15 of the blacklist on nfs mw?
This right there is the number 15 guy on the blacklist 😎
Hell yeah
No. Sonny uses an MK 5 Golf GTI not the R32. But you can use the R32 in Need For Speed Carbon. Tier 2 Tuner Car.
@@damiandorhoff719 just go with the flow brother
Damn I had one of these in auto and the manual seems so much better. Ive got a Civic Si and GT350 now though.
Cars like this are exactly why its impossible to buy a nice R32 in the UK for just driving around on weekends.
Yep he needs a kit from Vulcan Alpha
I’d love for Misha and Lapo to be able to make me a spoiler and splitter for it!
I know this car! It’s from my area in North Wales UK!
Thanks mate, what car do you drive?
Big time Need for Speed underground vibes with this one
sound amazing
Curious what duration cams. 40HP gain is probably a little optimistic for cams+remap on the VR6. Glad to see all the good supporting mods. Also weird seeing a manual MK5 R32 since they were DSG only in the US. Haldex remap/controller and rear diff could be nice to do next. Also oil cooler as Misha mentioned. On these cars there's a heat exchanger where radiator/water is used to cool oil. There's block offs for this to seperate the two loops if you end up getting a dedicated oil cooler.
40+- hp with cams and a remap is not that difficult on the 3.2 engine. We have some here in Denmark, that dynoed 290-+ hp with the same setup (i dont know the duration on the cams though) But it is possible :-)
@@game-unlimited749 What I've seen in the US is ~240 to the front wheels with remap, cams, full exhaust, intake. Probably depends on how kind the dyno is.
@@Shady97342 i’ve only seen dyno results with cams, remap, and a colder thermostat, But it could be fun to see a setup with the stuff you mention on the dyno, and a setup with only cams and a remap on the dyno, and see How the curve behaves on the 2 setups :)
The car actually made 289.58bhp on the dyno. The cams I am using are schrick 268/272. I am in the process or trying to sort the over heating oil out, however it was 28°-34° that day.
@@N4thJ Nice I have the same cams! VR's run warm so I'm not surprised. Definitely look into an oil cooler! I'm happy to see an R32 being tracked. Thanks for sharing with us.
That front ends seen some close driving
Glorious engine sound
Love sound vr6 ❤ oil cooler
素晴らしいサウンドです。この車が欲しい
What a sountrack
One of my dream cars to ever drive or even own ❤ thank you misha for making my dream come true 🫡
Clean r32
Hey Misha, can't find those Bilstein tshirts online, where did you get them from?
147 GTA ,golf 4 e 5 r32... Ruggiti veri ❤❤❤❤
Good video
Purple long roof makes a little appearance!
In America there’s no mk5 r32 manual, I guess it came manual
angry wookie noises intensify!
1:10 R32 golf and skyline or only golf ?
Top trim Vw group's cars of that era have always that blueish hue on the intruments and had great readibility. I wonder if they used to put on some kind of anti reflective coating as used in some high end watches.
I would love to know how the cluster showes all those temps, is that an r32 thing only or can that be shown on normal mk5 golfs too?
Polar Fis for MK5, they’re plug and play
@nooruz_z thanks for that, looks like I'm going to order one now lol
what do you like more 4cylinder turboed golfs or the vr6 engine golf
also do they ever go backwards on this track or is this always a one direction
😂😂 How tf you came up with this question?
290 PS dyno or estimated /guess ? :). You should add the second water cooler from the Golf MKV R32 DSG to get more water cooling and the racimex oil cooler kit with 80c thermostat.
289.58bhp the car made on a dyno. I am in the process or trying to sort the over heating oil out, however it was 28°-34° that day.
@@N4thJ 130 isnt that bad. depending on oil type you could go up to 140. Had that on the trackday with same conditions but short slow track. with Misha driving it had around 124-127, also no extra Oil cooler but MK4 R32 DSG with 278 PS on the Dyno, Aircondition running ;). Like said add the MK5 R32 DSG extra Water cooler (1K0 121 212C with aircab 1K0 121 333B). Will bring the water temp down, also extra oil cooler, mybe setrab slim line extra long in front or laying down like in the bmw. Good thing is you already have no direct belt drive steering pump :).
That car is screaming out for a turbo conversion
@@psycho3344 yeah, but not when it cost 12-15k to do it properly 🫣
Please find a 1.6 renault wind!!!!
Passenger went from 😐to😃.
@@donatas2733 I was really paranoid about looking a certain way 😂
That grille is the best case I've seen against a cheap blackout job. It looks terrible.
It needs redoing mate. It’s from stone chips and rubber from track days hitting it. It’s on my list.
how much chipping is going on in the front 😮😮😮
4.05. Speed limitor? Something happened? These cars are limited to 155 mph I believe? Not taking into account remaps etc.
What happened to the foot work camera angle, bring that back bro
The carbon accumulation on that engine must be unreal.
Can you swap the 3.6 passat motor imto these?
Yeah
Overheated but it was really enjoyable car
The temp on the day was 28°-30°
Que pasó?....subió temperatura del aceite y cambió el sonido...y ya bajo el ritmo...
Miseria.
golf 6 R when?
Sin subtítulos 😢🥹🥹
Is there somebody Who has a 2.5 v6 ti .alfa busso engine in there car .brings me back to 92 when Alfa Romeo startert in Dtm(im living in a hospice for 10 months right now😮
Music!
Would be better to clean the windshield of the car..
Mischa don't play
And whats wrong with that . Nice car
Oil cooler and water/meth injection
V6 not VR6- check the engine cover
@@kenrossaukrsa it’s actually a VR6, the engine covers always came saying V6 but they aren’t a true V6.
The things i will never understand. U buy a R Model from factory and i cant even handle one Lap
Well, a 20km lap... But this is not a track car from factory
I cant understand your english
It's so nice to see cars in MPH instead of the stupid kilometres per hour!
Stupid stupid numbers. We have the best numbers
Bro just roasted 95% of the world's population that uses the metric system...not our fault you yanks want to be different with your imperial nonsense no hard feelings :)
@@Ben_Z33
Not quite, it's 9% of the world that uses MPH including the UK which is where I'm from by the way. 😁
Don't like R32.