It is said that Uesugi was spotted building conspicuous fortifications for his new castle. Tokugawa sent him a letter asking him to come to Edo to explain his actions. Uesugi sent an insulting rebuff saying that "city samurai collect tea implements while country samurai collect weapons". This was the first outright act of war that kicked off the Sekigahara campaign.
Wow, the Sanada are a fascinating case. The fact that Masayuki decided to deliberately put himself and his sons on opposing sides for this conflict just to ensure their clan's survival is pretty badass.
89 years after the Battle of Sekigahara, Torii clan was in danger of confiscating all territories due to scandals. However, Tokugawa Shogunate eventually allowed Torii clan to own a small territory. Reason:Tokugawa Shogunate reduced the punishment in consideration of loyalty and achievements of Torii Mototada.
It's quite surprising to see the Oda clan take the side of Mitsunari. Not only did Ieyasu fight for Nobukatsu (even if it was ultimately motivated by self interest), I thought the Oda clan would relish the prospect of dishing out the same treatment to Hideyoshi's clan, as Hideyoshi had done to their clan.
I would say that Hideyoshi was almost seen as a saviour of the Oda, as he had defeated the treacherous Akechi Mitsuhide and reunified Nobunaga’s old realms. Even if it can be said that Hideyoshi usurped the Oda for his own Hashiba and then Toyotomi clan, I’m not sure if everyone viewed it that way, especially as Hideyoshi was an Oda clan retainer. Meanwhile, the Tokugawa had taken advantage of the chaos following Nobunaga’s death in 1582 to expand their own holdings and may even have been viewed as hostile to the Oda by some. Whatever the case, it is not black and white and most were completely divided about what to do and who to support.
Great work as always. Torii Mototada remains one of my favorite samurai to this day due to his last stand. Onto the next episode: Imagine if Hidetada actually died at the second siege of Ueda and then the Uesugi crushed the Date at Hasedo. I wonder what would have happened then...
I thought he would cover the tragedy of Gracia. One of the many people Ishida tried to take hostage to force the samurai lords into obedience. Instead she set fire to her house and ordered her bodyguard to kill her so she wouldn’t be captured. This pushed her husband to further stand against Ishida as well as motivate other clan to step away from him. She also happened to be the daughter of Mitsuhide Akechi, the man who betrayed Nobunaga.
I read about that, but I didn't know she was a Mitsuhide. With these videos I know understand why she died and how tragic her death was. So many smaller details to pick up, I guess that can get mentioned in a 'Hosokawa' or 'Mitsuhide' clan video EDIT: Wait, the wikipedia article says her death greatly impacted the morale of the Western army and turned away other clans who were still on the fence. Did her death really have such a massive impact?
@@yoshimitsu8922 I dont know the full extent of it. That’s why I hoped it would be covered. I heard that due to her father, many people ridiculed her until this happened. Afterward she was regarded with great honor and seen as a true wife of a samurai.
@@ericramirez2608 I see, as a Mitsuhide and a Christian she is one of the most unique figures in this period then Reading a bit more into it, there seems to be two conflicting accounts. Many Japanese accounts say that she ordered a family retainer to kill her, but a Jesuit account says that Tadaoki ordered his retainer to kill his wife if her honor was in danger and then commit seppuku. Considering the disagreement between Christianity and Samurai culture over suicide it makes sense why there are differing accounts
Torii Mototada is one of my favorite Samurai specifically for his loyalty and courage to hold Fushimi against the Western Army. I’m glad this episode made note of his sacrifice and the last meeting between him and Ieyasu.
The first time I heard of Torii Mototada was in Nioh and his badassery at Fushimi etched to my mind from that day. Definitely among my most favourite samurai.
You know what would make a great history channel, someone documenting the history and wars of the Italian Peninsula from the Medieval age to Italian Unification in a similar manner to your documentary on the Sengoku jidai. Italian history until its Unification is like a centuries-long Sengoku Jidai.
Yea, I agree. Tho Italy's journey seems to be far more messy and ugly, due to lack of morality and principles. I mean medieval Italians were well known for their greed and disloyalty (even the pope and his papal states!). If not for France, Spain (Aragon), and Holy Roman Empire, maybe Florence, Venice, or Naples could have reunited Italy earlier, and form a powerful Italian state that could compete with France, England, Spain, and others. Alas, Italy was a playground for other powers.
I for one want to see the Korean Unification War (towards the end of the first Three Kingdoms Era) properly covered. With Japan and the Sui and Tang Dynasties of China also getting heavily involved.
Ok, who's not liking commenting and subscribing, straight up this channel needs to be bigger, the content is fantastic and deserves at LEAST 250k not this weak 91k stuff. It's on us guys come on!
I did find it most informative. Of course, I knew about the siege of Fushimi castle and Uesugi Kagekatsu being contained, I knew nothing about the Kyushu situation or that of Maeda. So, many pieces at play before the major act is ready to take place. Only a few steps before the kickoff.
“Kanetsugu Naoe in my opinion was the prime perpetrator of starting the Sekigahara war by writing details (whether true or fabricated) on Ieyasu. For reasons unknown, in reality, never challenge realpolitiks”
I would say that Masayuki's gamble on keeping his family alive is something it hasn't been seen as important to continue the Sanada heritage by the mainstream side of the story. I would say Masayuki siding with Yukimura/Nobushige is his decision to continue passing his knowledge to him (Siege of Osaka is the biggest example) while he sees Nobuyuki more ready to lead the clan on his own should Ieyasu won the civil war once again. His aim was to ensure that his family would survive whoever is going to lead Japan. I guess there were signs of it when they became independent after the fall of Takeda. Of course, Nobuyuki had to endure suspicions from the Tokugawa camp due to his relatives fighting on the opposite side. Surprisingly, he did get some help from other samurai warlords as well so Nobuyuki is very fortunate not to get the ire of Ieyasu. Been watching the series and it was a great insight. This gives me much interest to the history of Sengoku Jidai. (edited after earlier reply)
@Sanada Yoshimune Oh... Thank you for your insight. It was fascinating to see why Masayuki did what he did. Perhaps I may have made an error that what I really want to say is that in the mainstream point of view, they ignored the importance of this decision. I might edit my post just in case.
@@patrickquinlan6311 He still has to cover Edo though. With the span of the period being close to 200 years. There must be at least some history to cover in between it, even if the period was in a state of peace.
In Kyushu Kuroda Kanbei (who was somewhat independent of his son) used his personal savings to recruit and train an army pretty much from scratch.... He and Kiyomasa would then go butt kicking.
Poor Mitsunari. If only he'd listen to Yoshihiro, doing the night raid before the battle, or being nice to other daimyos, and/or retainers. Who else had lost, because they didn't listen to their generals?
Obviously it was you. Didn't listen to your veteran generals then charged against the well entrenched enemy lines before getting decimated by the Oda and Tokugawa alliance at Shitagahara-Nagashino.
Fukushima Masanori, Kato Kiyomasa and Kuroda Nagamasa are not Tokugawa loyalists. They joined Ieyasu out of their sheer hate of Mitsunari. I'm sure Kiyomasa and Masanori felt remorse when Ieyasu became Shogun in 1603
What if Date Masamune decided to betray Tokugawa Ieyasu at the last minute and aid Mitsunari? I’m sure the tide of battle will swing in Mitsunari’s favor…if he can keep his buddies together and stop them from doing whatever the heck they please or betray him
The Mogami would have been overwhelmed initially, but this would most like force Ieyasu to send more of his men to keep the Uesugi and Date forces in the North, which would make him appear weaker than he already was. In terms of numbers, it was already in Mitsunari's favor. And Masamune was not a factor in terms of keeping the loyalists in check, it was all on Mitsunari, and we know how that ended. However, if Masamune and Kagekatsu could somehow reach the battle at Sekigahara, or at least force Ieyasu to make a choice of whether to defend his territories from them or to bank on Sekigahara, we could never know.
@Sanada Yoshimune How much Koku did Echigo have? and who own Echigo after Uesugi got relocated? I remember Uesugi got relocated again after they loss in the aftermatch of Sekigahara
hello i'm farhan, i'am a japanese history buff, i was wondering if you or maybe collab with linfamy could review and had historical analysis on Taira Clan in the anime The Heike Story ( Heike Monogatari ) in the future.
I hear that some sort of conspiracy or historical theory Yoshitsugu Ōtani Is actually Mitsuhide Akechi You may have trouble. Before I haven't seen every video but can you talk about that or somebody else please ?
I honestly thought this was going to be about the Ainu somehow. I should have known otherwise. Also, goddamit, I still hate Kiyomasa. I wish a tiger had kilked him.
It is said that Uesugi was spotted building conspicuous fortifications for his new castle. Tokugawa sent him a letter asking him to come to Edo to explain his actions. Uesugi sent an insulting rebuff saying that "city samurai collect tea implements while country samurai collect weapons". This was the first outright act of war that kicked off the Sekigahara campaign.
@Sanada Yoshimune very Ironic of him to send this kind of massage
My boy Ieyasu wasn't havin that...
It was written by naoe kanetsugu I think
Everyone else: *intricate mons*
Ogawa: *simple square*
Using the old intro had some nostalgic effect on me reminds you of how far the channel and the series have come and where it used to be.
Man this series has really gone by fast! I cant believe how much its covered, feels like yesterday we were watching the setting the stage...
Wow, the Sanada are a fascinating case. The fact that Masayuki decided to deliberately put himself and his sons on opposing sides for this conflict just to ensure their clan's survival is pretty badass.
He’s like a Japanese version of Tywin Lannister to me haha
89 years after the Battle of Sekigahara, Torii clan was in danger of confiscating all territories due to scandals.
However, Tokugawa Shogunate eventually allowed Torii clan to own a small territory.
Reason:Tokugawa Shogunate reduced the punishment in consideration of loyalty and achievements of Torii Mototada.
The perks of being a Fudai clan
Tadateru Matsudaira
"I'm the younger brother of the shogun, but the territory was confiscated"
Tadanaga Tokugawa
"I was seppuku in addition to that"
It's quite surprising to see the Oda clan take the side of Mitsunari.
Not only did Ieyasu fight for Nobukatsu (even if it was ultimately motivated by self interest), I thought the Oda clan would relish the prospect of dishing out the same treatment to Hideyoshi's clan, as Hideyoshi had done to their clan.
I would say that Hideyoshi was almost seen as a saviour of the Oda, as he had defeated the treacherous Akechi Mitsuhide and reunified Nobunaga’s old realms. Even if it can be said that Hideyoshi usurped the Oda for his own Hashiba and then Toyotomi clan, I’m not sure if everyone viewed it that way, especially as Hideyoshi was an Oda clan retainer. Meanwhile, the Tokugawa had taken advantage of the chaos following Nobunaga’s death in 1582 to expand their own holdings and may even have been viewed as hostile to the Oda by some. Whatever the case, it is not black and white and most were completely divided about what to do and who to support.
Great work as always. Torii Mototada remains one of my favorite samurai to this day due to his last stand.
Onto the next episode: Imagine if Hidetada actually died at the second siege of Ueda and then the Uesugi crushed the Date at Hasedo. I wonder what would have happened then...
I thought he would cover the tragedy of Gracia. One of the many people Ishida tried to take hostage to force the samurai lords into obedience. Instead she set fire to her house and ordered her bodyguard to kill her so she wouldn’t be captured. This pushed her husband to further stand against Ishida as well as motivate other clan to step away from him. She also happened to be the daughter of Mitsuhide Akechi, the man who betrayed Nobunaga.
Same. Hoping he mentions her and the next episode at least.
I read about that, but I didn't know she was a Mitsuhide. With these videos I know understand why she died and how tragic her death was. So many smaller details to pick up, I guess that can get mentioned in a 'Hosokawa' or 'Mitsuhide' clan video
EDIT: Wait, the wikipedia article says her death greatly impacted the morale of the Western army and turned away other clans who were still on the fence. Did her death really have such a massive impact?
@@yoshimitsu8922 I dont know the full extent of it. That’s why I hoped it would be covered. I heard that due to her father, many people ridiculed her until this happened. Afterward she was regarded with great honor and seen as a true wife of a samurai.
@@ericramirez2608 I see, as a Mitsuhide and a Christian she is one of the most unique figures in this period then
Reading a bit more into it, there seems to be two conflicting accounts. Many Japanese accounts say that she ordered a family retainer to kill her, but a Jesuit account says that Tadaoki ordered his retainer to kill his wife if her honor was in danger and then commit seppuku.
Considering the disagreement between Christianity and Samurai culture over suicide it makes sense why there are differing accounts
Her husband was the Hosokawa heir
Torii Mototada is one of my favorite Samurai specifically for his loyalty and courage to hold Fushimi against the Western Army. I’m glad this episode made note of his sacrifice and the last meeting between him and Ieyasu.
The first time I heard of Torii Mototada was in Nioh and his badassery at Fushimi etched to my mind from that day. Definitely among my most favourite samurai.
You know what would make a great history channel, someone documenting the history and wars of the Italian Peninsula from the Medieval age to Italian Unification in a similar manner to your documentary on the Sengoku jidai. Italian history until its Unification is like a centuries-long Sengoku Jidai.
Yea, I agree. Tho Italy's journey seems to be far more messy and ugly, due to lack of morality and principles. I mean medieval Italians were well known for their greed and disloyalty (even the pope and his papal states!).
If not for France, Spain (Aragon), and Holy Roman Empire, maybe Florence, Venice, or Naples could have reunited Italy earlier, and form a powerful Italian state that could compete with France, England, Spain, and others. Alas, Italy was a playground for other powers.
Perhaps I shall make attempt…
I think Kings & Generals did a series on Italian Unification and some of the various wars. (Could be mistaken.)
I for one want to see the Korean Unification War (towards the end of the first Three Kingdoms Era) properly covered. With Japan and the Sui and Tang Dynasties of China also getting heavily involved.
@@kawaikuNot quite. Their series was on the Italian Wars of the 16th century.
Ok, who's not liking commenting and subscribing, straight up this channel needs to be bigger, the content is fantastic and deserves at LEAST 250k not this weak 91k stuff. It's on us guys come on!
Another step closer to Sekigahara....
I can't wait for the next episode! Also the background music and build up to climax was extremely good!
I did find it most informative. Of course, I knew about the siege of Fushimi castle and Uesugi Kagekatsu being contained, I knew nothing about the Kyushu situation or that of Maeda. So, many pieces at play before the major act is ready to take place. Only a few steps before the kickoff.
“Kanetsugu Naoe in my opinion was the prime perpetrator of starting the Sekigahara war by writing details (whether true or fabricated) on Ieyasu. For reasons unknown, in reality, never challenge realpolitiks”
Of course Masamune and the Mogami spilled first blood. BANZAI.
Mogami tied down the Uesugi from helping Mitsunari just to piss on Toyotomi
He must really hated Hideyoshi Toyotomi so mich
The worst part about these Videos is the waiting for the next episode
It's the feeling of knowing something good is on the way, so you wait with a smile and anticipation. I learned as a kid that good things take time.
I would say that Masayuki's gamble on keeping his family alive is something it hasn't been seen as important to continue the Sanada heritage by the mainstream side of the story. I would say Masayuki siding with Yukimura/Nobushige is his decision to continue passing his knowledge to him (Siege of Osaka is the biggest example) while he sees Nobuyuki more ready to lead the clan on his own should Ieyasu won the civil war once again. His aim was to ensure that his family would survive whoever is going to lead Japan. I guess there were signs of it when they became independent after the fall of Takeda.
Of course, Nobuyuki had to endure suspicions from the Tokugawa camp due to his relatives fighting on the opposite side. Surprisingly, he did get some help from other samurai warlords as well so Nobuyuki is very fortunate not to get the ire of Ieyasu.
Been watching the series and it was a great insight. This gives me much interest to the history of Sengoku Jidai.
(edited after earlier reply)
@Sanada Yoshimune Oh... Thank you for your insight. It was fascinating to see why Masayuki did what he did. Perhaps I may have made an error that what I really want to say is that in the mainstream point of view, they ignored the importance of this decision.
I might edit my post just in case.
Honestly this series is great. Hate that we may be 10 episodes away from it ending 😭😭
I wish this series is more longer🙇
I don't think it'll be ending at 1615 but I don't know what there is to talk about after that. The Boshin war maybe?
Doesn't the Meiji era start after this series? Do that please lol
@@patrickquinlan6311 He still has to cover Edo though. With the span of the period being close to 200 years. There must be at least some history to cover in between it, even if the period was in a state of peace.
@@patrickquinlan6311 another 200 years away… good idea for a spin off series
Ah so this is basically the "Realm Divide" event from Total War Shogun 2
In Kyushu Kuroda Kanbei (who was somewhat independent of his son) used his personal savings to recruit and train an army pretty much from scratch.... He and Kiyomasa would then go butt kicking.
Keep'em coming. We're coming up to some of the real meatgrinders 🤟
Keep it up man you're doing a fantastic job.
Please continue. I love those videos about history of sengoku jidai:3
13:00 - Cut in half.
Japanese gore.
bruh this is so long yet interesting keep it up my guy
This is the best series on the Sengoku Jidai
This should be good.
You are still alive Kenshin? xdddd
Just seeing the names on the side of ishida, one would think he woul win. However that is exactly what gets me excited for the battle of sekigahara
The road to sekigahara can’t wait for that battle to finally come
Poor Mitsunari. If only he'd listen to Yoshihiro, doing the night raid before the battle, or being nice to other daimyos, and/or retainers. Who else had lost, because they didn't listen to their generals?
Obviously it was you. Didn't listen to your veteran generals then charged against the well entrenched enemy lines before getting decimated by the Oda and Tokugawa alliance at Shitagahara-Nagashino.
Naoe: here's a detailed list why Ieyasu sucks
Tanuki: okay, that does it, we ride at dawn!
Fukushima Masanori, Kato Kiyomasa and Kuroda Nagamasa are not Tokugawa loyalists. They joined Ieyasu out of their sheer hate of Mitsunari. I'm sure Kiyomasa and Masanori felt remorse when Ieyasu became Shogun in 1603
What's the name of the soundtrack at the beginning of the video? It slaps!
very nice video was this one :D
The final showdown, I can smell it, it's getting closer and closer
Wym
I love your intro music. It’s from Samurai Warriors 2 lol
If it wasn't for Masamune, the Eastern Army would seem like very black and white bad guys.
What if Date Masamune decided to betray Tokugawa Ieyasu at the last minute and aid Mitsunari? I’m sure the tide of battle will swing in Mitsunari’s favor…if he can keep his buddies together and stop them from doing whatever the heck they please or betray him
The Mogami would have been overwhelmed initially, but this would most like force Ieyasu to send more of his men to keep the Uesugi and Date forces in the North, which would make him appear weaker than he already was.
In terms of numbers, it was already in Mitsunari's favor. And Masamune was not a factor in terms of keeping the loyalists in check, it was all on Mitsunari, and we know how that ended.
However, if Masamune and Kagekatsu could somehow reach the battle at Sekigahara, or at least force Ieyasu to make a choice of whether to defend his territories from them or to bank on Sekigahara, we could never know.
Long live the Tokugawa/Date clans!
Sanada: size doesn't matter it's how you use it.
finnaly :D
Will you ever do a review of Kessen 1?
I was waiting for thiisss
I Iove it.. CAn you do if anything clan still exists and what their role in Japan today!
Most of the big-name clans actually still exist in Japan.
Begun Sekigahara has!
Wakizaka emblem kind of looks like the Kool menthol cigarette logo🤔
remind me again why did Uesugi got relocated? I don't remember watching it, it's been a long series, I may forgetting some event
@Sanada Yoshimune How much Koku did Echigo have? and who own Echigo after Uesugi got relocated? I remember Uesugi got relocated again after they loss in the aftermatch of Sekigahara
hello i'm farhan, i'am a japanese history buff, i was wondering if you or maybe collab with linfamy could review and had historical analysis on Taira Clan in the anime The Heike Story ( Heike Monogatari ) in the future.
Wooooooohhhhhh
I hear that some sort of conspiracy or historical theory Yoshitsugu Ōtani Is actually
Mitsuhide Akechi You may have trouble. Before I haven't seen every video but can you talk about that or somebody else please ?
Is that the story of Nankobo Tenkai?
If the Mogami and Date had teamed up earlier they could’ve dominated the north.
Why won't you just refer tor nobushige as yukimura
I honestly thought this was going to be about the Ainu somehow. I should have known otherwise.
Also, goddamit, I still hate Kiyomasa. I wish a tiger had kilked him.
Bruh I was literally talking with my girlfriend and saw this and told her straight up leave me alone till this is over lol things is getting juicy
You don't deserve a girlfriend
@@mgsxmike lol and you clearly don’t have one
First
Fourth xd