i did more comparisons here for demoman vs accel and warmachine th-cam.com/video/apwvYuLINw0/w-d-xo.html it is the BEST VALUE tower in the game discord: discord.gg/tC9vh9u ego buddy here: www.roblox.com/catalog/6238488175/GDILIVES-Shoulder-Pal twitter: twitter.com/M1A2_AbramsTank
100% would recommend to a friend that is freshly new to the game (Level 0). He tried 2 rounds and got about 110 coins each and gained enough cash for the demoman, so we tried a easy map in Molten Mode & placed early defense towers while I had the best support towers which was the Commander, Farm, & DJ left with a golden tower, during wave 10 or 12 we were rolling and just quickly passing waves like a grind machine but unfortunately we lost at wave 40 but it didn’t take that long for a game. So basically, Demoman is the most valuable tower & just a grinding machine but really isn’t that good compared to the High-Tier towers like the Accelerator.
@purple i like to ride horses not really, if Demoman had a hidden detection - yes, Demoman probably would be useful. But since Military Base literally carries demoman, it's just a bad tower.
To be fair enough, yeah, Demoman does sometimes outperform Minigunner. Perhaps even Accelerators. But it really struggle against Speedies, big HP and doesn't really have a good DPS at all. Hiddens is also an obstacle for him and he really needs alot of Demoman to somewhat outperform minigunners
It has never outperformed accel. Accel has always out preformed this tower with range, dps, fire rate and stealth detection. Demo man is which an over rated tower. Eggrypted used 90 demo men on fallen and lost on wave 38. If you had 90 accels you would of won the game so easily and would of definitely got hidden wave. To say that demo man is better than accel really shows how gullible people are to there favourite conetent creator. This also apples to ranger, mini gunner. Sorry for being “salty” but this is my opinion.
The reason why minigunner was struggling is because that was recorded back when the ROF bug was much more debilitating. Fast firerate towers with low damage per attack were more heavily affected. In the past, I used turret and ranger instead of minigunner for this particular reason.
John explaining how a grenade boi is more powerful than a laser beam, minigun, turret, and war machine: *insert that 1 meme* Me just watching the video: *insert that 1 meme*
Demoman in molten mode:I'm PRO Demoman in fallen mode:im NOOB Demoman in hardcore mode:im VERY NOOB Demoman in hidden wave:im dirt popo fire and more Demoman in solar elapse event night 4:dirt popo dog water burning and more
John roblox: demo man best. Harrison: So if demo man is op do it on void reaver and see if it’s better than accel, ranger, turret, pursuit, etc time to diss u
demo man is HORRIBLE on final waves which is usually the hardest parts of most games which just actually makes it useless + almost any tower can beat molten
Uh actually John according to my calculations green scout is approximately 52.91 percent better because the fire rate drop off on demo man and scout holds 2 guns which automatically is s tier
below after watching this: 0 dps at lower lvls and 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 dmg at max lvl
@@I-used-to-be-an-apple What the hell is your problem about admin commands? John is just playing normally because he wanna show us if its legit or not.
i didnt use military base,i used minigunners instead but also demoman.When i used only minigunners to solo molten i got the molten boss to 15k health the most and had good rng with the spawns.But when i used like 15 demomans and 8 minigunners i got the molten boss defeated easily.The only resaon i used minigunner is for hidden detection.
@@Idk-xv5gv no cmon at least leave SOMETHING FOR BEGINNERS TO USE like bro why do you want to make it so you need to a: get carried or b: lose and grid the rewards from losing if your a beginner like bruh leave something for those poor beginners
@@Idk-xv5gv no dude its not like they can shred fallen king+ its only molten which is the easiest mode for beginners and demoman still need hidden support
Date: August 2, 2021 Incident: "The Demoman Joke Massacre" Description: A user by the name okridgee posted a video titled "Demoman is not the best tower", it showed how Demoman could not be able to beat Hidden Wave. This turned into a huge massacre shortly afterwards. Demoman/John fans pushed forward, squeezing okridgee in between. In almost no time. Okridgee was immediately ratioed entirely. At this time, this was a tragic sighting. Casualties: The casualties were mainly against okridgee and the defenders, almost no one survived that day.
Yea, as someone who just got to level 15 and is broke, this is true, when I solo molten mode, the demoman just does so much damage combined with shotgunner. It is insane, if you have 5 lvl 3 demo and 5 lvl 3 shotgunners, you can destroy 6 normal bosses in seconds. Although I struggle on slow bosses, I don't have support because broke, but still, its really good combined with shotgunner.
Demo with heavy weapons is a powerful combo,heavyweapons destroying hiddens and helping on molten Boss,demoman doing the same thing but shreding misteries
Is gold scout but worse Edit: BEST solo strat for without glad plave lvl 1 farm, get gold scout farm comes first. Keep farming until wave 7, place another scoutboth lvl 0, keep saving, wave 10 place lvl 2 accel, keep farming. If uhave bad rng place a lvl 3 further down track from 16 - 19. If u have a gud farming strat and gud rng u can finish farming wave 17, from then on spam accels and anything else, on most maps this is guaranteed under 20 mins ez molten win (lol u do need accel and gold scout tho) also it is recommended to place dj max out wave 21 so u can finish maxing out accels before wave 35 so u can place turret or smth
Dare: Join a full mega server and give everyone 500k cash and spawn a fallen king. If they manage to defeat him say "Guys I think you made fallen king's brother mad!" And spawn a nuclear fallen king. If they defeat NFK then turn on troll mode and start trolling
i did more comparisons here for demoman vs accel and warmachine th-cam.com/video/apwvYuLINw0/w-d-xo.html
it is the BEST VALUE tower in the game
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“IF I WAS A BAD DEMOMAN I WOULDN’T BE HERE DISCUSSING IT WITH YOU NOW WOULD I”
"NOW WOUD I"
Every high rank be like:
NOOOOOOOOO DEMOMAN IS BAD BECAUSE ITS A LOW RANK TOWER AND IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Also demoman:
tf2 reference
@@thegIitched Let's do ittttttttttttttttt
"one drop of potassium cloride one arron twitch, And KABLOWAAY"
John's trying to show us how a man with a literal grenade can outperform the meta.
He say demoman is better then rocketeer
@@charlesethansu198 it is, I wasted money on rocketeer although multiple maxed is better but not as good as demo
@beef and he successfully did it
I've alr bought Rocketeer before hardcore update, so now i pretty much wasted money on rocket
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3:08
Everyone: "Nothing."
John: "Uhh.. J E E P "
I remember beating molten my first time (and also my first win) with a person and I spammed demoman and I don't knowed that placement limit exist
Nope there is no placement limit noob bruh bruh wut a noooooob i hate noob
@@Smashyd Im level 60 and there is the placement limit noob
@@Smashyd There is
Noob
@@Smashyd there is a limit noob
@Somedudeonaiphone Chilling nobody asked
Demo Man: Destroys Molten mode
Everyone: "Perhaps i treated you too harshly"
demoman then goes for the head
Accel: how the heck that this tower is better then me
Accel:why is a grenade better than a laser beam?
@@danialkarim9038 this is actually a lie I tried it and I got to wave 25
@@pepsi_gaming2 ok
I would have never thought that demoman would be this good for early and late game
Nah demonan the ultimate level 0 tower.
Lol imagine nubs watching this
Nubs:time to spam demoman
Pro towers:are we a joke to you
@@siddhitiwari1144 Demonan better than golden mini and ranger and accel
@FilippoAndMind noice
@@sledger7432 he isn't though
Me who bought demomen months ago : a small price to pay for salvation
denomen
I bought demo when i play tds for the first time
i bought it years ago
@spider78 same
@@spider78z same
100% would recommend to a friend that is freshly new to the game (Level 0). He tried 2 rounds and got about 110 coins each and gained enough cash for the demoman, so we tried a easy map in Molten Mode & placed early defense towers while I had the best support towers which was the Commander, Farm, & DJ left with a golden tower, during wave 10 or 12 we were rolling and just quickly passing waves like a grind machine but unfortunately we lost at wave 40 but it didn’t take that long for a game. So basically, Demoman is the most valuable tower & just a grinding machine but really isn’t that good compared to the High-Tier towers like the Accelerator.
Ofc it costs like 250 in the shop tho
U lost on molten duo with a golden tower. Okay....
Made the right choice telling my friend go buy demo then.
everyone before: grinding for accel and turret
everyone now: demoman FTW
@purple i like to ride horses not really, if Demoman had a hidden detection - yes, Demoman probably would be useful. But since Military Base literally carries demoman, it's just a bad tower.
@@RiddleMaster_ROBLOX the base its just helping destroy hidden and help deal damage to bosses so the rest is for DEMO MAN
@@checktheaboutpage6978 yeah but u dont sell mil base anyways
@@RiddleMaster_ROBLOX yeah so what was the point of you talking about the mil base helping demo?
@@RiddleMaster_ROBLOX your arguing with gigachads
Wait hold up John doing a normal gameplay without admin commands what the hell
Shocking right?
wth.. this is new
even without commands its still op at mid and nearly end game.
lool
it feels strang
i titled it tds pro not tds admin :d
john is explaining how a little grenade is more powerful then a freaking laser beam
Freaking laser sharks!
Laser mechas as well
logic
when you spam it its better
grenades can really do wonders
We all know when below wakes up and he sees this, he's gonna nerf Demo to the ground
Sad
Ikr
Imagine instead he BUFFED IT
@@trueorfalsey yeah
Atleast good at molten
@@trueorfalsey exactly
To be fair enough, yeah, Demoman does sometimes outperform Minigunner. Perhaps even Accelerators. But it really struggle against Speedies, big HP and doesn't really have a good DPS at all. Hiddens is also an obstacle for him and he really needs alot of Demoman to somewhat outperform minigunners
It has never outperformed accel. Accel has always out preformed this tower with range, dps, fire rate and stealth detection. Demo man is which an over rated tower. Eggrypted used 90 demo men on fallen and lost on wave 38. If you had 90 accels you would of won the game so easily and would of definitely got hidden wave. To say that demo man is better than accel really shows how gullible people are to there favourite conetent creator. This also apples to ranger, mini gunner. Sorry for being “salty” but this is my opinion.
yea
@@ILOVEMINERSCR715 this is about creator thing. So they will follow what they said etc lol
1:51 John's laugh is golden.
Demoman: im useless :(
Below: *yes very sad , anyways.*
GDI:and i took that persnally
When will demoman get buff
@@yasuke234 he's too op well kinda
@@janitor2008 ..you have no idea what op means lol
John called the shotgunner enforcer, how nostalgic.
when i first saw this comment i was confused but now i get it, i keep thinking shotgunner is enforcer thats why
@@chincrimson5376 bruh
logic
@Aaron Ralte rail gunner
@@Weeeeetus rail gunner is the second version outlaw was the first and i always thought outlaw was cow boy
john is a verified tds pro!!! Below can’t beat him omg you earned 1 sub john…..
51 seconds ago
Poggr🥶
John is always chad
Pogrs😂😎👌🥶
@@hardiecuizons big chad
Demoman Be like: am so pro bro, im so good
Hiddens: welp, let me pass you, thank you
The reason why minigunner was struggling is because that was recorded back when the ROF bug was much more debilitating. Fast firerate towers with low damage per attack were more heavily affected.
In the past, I used turret and ranger instead of minigunner for this particular reason.
When I found this out I spammed demo man on my alt we lost but we got near the end
@BOXYCOLAS you need portland
@@loomian8961there is more maps
@BOXYCOLAS I will do that
ok
ayyyy you know its gonna be a good time when john uploads B)
I like how John basically shows Demoman is the real AoE/Splash Damage CEO among Rocketeer and Mortar.
0:48 dont know why, but this makes me laugh so hard
John explaining how a grenade boi is more powerful than a laser beam, minigun, turret, and war machine: *insert that 1 meme*
Me just watching the video: *insert that 1 meme*
me with turret,ranger,minigunner: have i wasted all my money for THIS
Turret who is free: i have no such weakness
me: i wasted robux on turret
outlaw is rlly good so its not a waste
oh
bruh i got accel and its like have I wasted all my time for THIS?
Imagine grinding gems for a charging tower instead of buying demo man
accel is better
@@ariso1951 *get this man a better brain and glasses lmao*
If accel didn't have that long charging accel would be better
@@joaquintorres870 *demo is now better*
@@ariso1951 r/wooooooosh
below: I would never thought I would say this but.. Time to nerf demo..
ITS NERF OR NOTHING
@Aqua_Gamer demoman has like 25 dps at max
@Aqua_Gamer not 11
@@berfinucar9851 20 damage with 1.8 firate
Doesn't sound like 25 dps to me
@@berfinucar9851 that means after nerf it’s gonna be 16 dps, swarm dps
"this is meant for noobs"
Meanwhile, the layout costs 12750 coins
the pay to play noobs: so?
We're talking about Demoman only,u can just get a friend that's good for the other towers
wait if you have a friend that is pro why not just have them use like accel or turret instead of just dj, mil base, commander
Demoman in molten mode:I'm PRO
Demoman in fallen mode:im NOOB
Demoman in hardcore mode:im VERY NOOB
Demoman in hidden wave:im dirt popo fire and more
Demoman in solar elapse event night 4:dirt popo dog water burning and more
you: what about normal mode? Me: idk
Alternate title: John showing us how to solo molten with a “noob” tower
now its the legend battle between PAINTBALLER and DEMOMAN
demo is alot more cheaper during uogrades, paintballer is for people who get too much money late game
@@twitterhaha HOWEVER Paintballer is more viable on Hardcore, because of Lead damage.
@@adrianionescu9004 yeah but isnt demoman a *explosive* tower? and not a *bullet* tower?
congrats on 1m subs!
John roblox: demo man best. Harrison: So if demo man is op do it on void reaver and see if it’s better than accel, ranger, turret, pursuit, etc time to diss u
It is op in molten mofe
Mofe
Mode
@@bubblereact1235 The edit feature seeing you: 😐
demoman would be so damn useful if it still has the 64 dmg per hit
69 dmg
god mode lol
Yea below keep nerfing explosive tower like commando misiles rocketer mortar
@@apiy2462 ye imagine single target missiles
I think that was lvl 5?
Which brings the saying:
*What makes me a good demoman?*
IF I WERE A BAD DEMOMAN, I WOULDN’T BE SITTING HERE, DISCUSSING IT WITH YOU
Alot of tf2 references lmao
Accelerator: I am a high damaging unit and a meta, almost every pro users use me to defeat fallen mode.
Demoman: Explosion
When I saw the gladiator I started questioning my life
demo man is HORRIBLE on final waves which is usually the hardest parts of most games which just actually makes it useless + almost any tower can beat molten
"send in the orbital nerf strike"
"got it chief"
*something idk pain*
paintballer is good at early defense, and Demoman is just good
Uhhh are you the commander that give you horrible tips?
@@tvspec1851 paintballer is actually good at early defense
This isn’t a video about how demoman is good,
It’s a video about how good military base is.
True
Yep
Nah it's about how freezer is the best tower
john: *laughing at speedys*
me: hes insane
LITTERLY ALL HIS OLD FANS: yea hes been insane since video 1
2:13
Ace pilot lvl 4: allow me to introduce myself
ah yes i can finally grind coins for golden crate with ease.
Me do only Demoman: *won on wave 17*
That one genius: *spam demoman*
Yes won on wave 17 makes sense
I lost at wave 40 on molten solo
I used to use my loadout as ranger,mini,commander,dj and farm
Now the demoman replaced my ranger lol
Stupid molten boss >:(
Uh actually John according to my calculations green scout is approximately 52.91 percent better because the fire rate drop off on demo man and scout holds 2 guns which automatically is s tier
among us is better by 999.99 percent is better than green scout
Green scout dead joke
Demoman:I am the best tower in the game now!
Militant Rework:are you sure about that?
John u started a war in the discord c'mon man
DeMo man EpIk 1!1!1!!1!1
eggcrypted prob gonna make a hardcore strat with demo man
chaos ensues
Below when he watched this: Oop time to nerf the demoman then lol
*scottish music stops*
below after watching this: 0 dps at lower lvls and 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 dmg at max lvl
@@sparrowEP Damn that's crapton of 0's
@@忌まわしきジンテイ sorry :D
@@sparrowEP it's ok
when you got max demomen
with the money you have left you can just spend it on mili base
easy win
Demon meets shotgunner
Shotgunner: *can solo with no supports*
Demoman:i Need support
Demoman belike:bring me slowing tower and im gonna shred everything
Oh… DEMO MAN!/soldier tf2
GDI uses neon rave. Hmm something ain’t right
who is this and where is john
Hes also playing normally inthe first game
@@I-used-to-be-an-apple he just does it so you know you can win ligit with demoman
@@kaifyuu but still name a video where john didnt use cheats in
@@I-used-to-be-an-apple What the hell is your problem about admin commands? John is just playing normally because he wanna show us if its legit or not.
new meta tower?!1?😳😳
Nah
@@Idk-xv5gv yes
@@karoeditz nah
@@Ahmadkhadr. yes
@@CavaliersCreations nah
Since roblox isn’t working I like watching u play tds and it makes me wants to play tds
Wow great video
Anyways im going to grind to get DJ to make the perfect loadout
I bet demoman will be nerfed
e
facts
Thats true because below want to make meta towers dog water dirt burning garbage towers
We need gold demo man
Than it would be the best gold tower
300% more range cuz yes
Everyone in TDS Discord: *spit* BELOW, NERF THE DENOMAN, NOW! ITS TOO POWERFUL
No pls
N o
No
No wait a minute demomen was nerf and not now lol
demoman cannot even beat hardcore and fallen mode and hidden wave and solar event
Humvee: crash crash crash crash crash crash rip
John roblox: **fart sounds**
Tank: crash crash crash crash crash crash crash crash EZ
i didnt use military base,i used minigunners instead but also demoman.When i used only minigunners to solo molten i got the molten boss to 15k health the most and had good rng with the spawns.But when i used like 15 demomans and 8 minigunners i got the molten boss defeated easily.The only resaon i used minigunner is for hidden detection.
The next thing demo man will be nerfed
what if below buff it
@@Eeaaoo432 WHEN FREEZER BUFF PLS
watch demoman gets nerf in the future
I mean tbh it should cause it's a beginner tower and outperforms a some good towers
@@Idk-xv5gv no cmon at least leave SOMETHING FOR BEGINNERS TO USE like bro why do you want to make it so you need to a: get carried or b: lose and grid the rewards from losing if your a beginner like bruh leave something for those poor beginners
@@Idk-xv5gv No
@@Idk-xv5gv every pro was Also a Beginner lmao
@@Idk-xv5gv no dude its not like they can shred fallen king+ its only molten which is the easiest mode for beginners and demoman still need hidden support
I’m still sticking to accelerator.
Other players: Scout is useless.
Also Scout: **helps us since the beginning when we were still level 1**
Golden scout: *Am I a joke to you?*
Gold scout: I'm bad ok ima waste of space
Noob:demoman is op
John:you smart
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I don’t really agree with accel “struggling” with main bosses other then fallen king, because I soloed molten with just accels and they shredded FAST
Same
the ace pilot tower can give hidden detection (must be lvl 4) every 30 secs so you need ace pilot
And yes the demo man is like super op, it does 20 damage at max and is so cheap cheaper than your local Costco sample
Imagine demoman with hd lol
“It’s fun just to see a bunch of explosions dude” - John Roblox
Make me toast rn
Below: Accelelator will be the best tower in game
Demoman: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!
3:00 john u put golden cowboy is C tier and normal cowboy in B tier what is this
4:45 accel doenst struggle on wave 35 on molten mode 🗿
Shotgunner: I GOT 10000 MORE GOD DAMN SHELLS IN THIS 4 ROUND MAGAZINE. Demoman: I got inf more god damn shells in this gun
Date: August 2, 2021
Incident: "The Demoman Joke Massacre"
Description:
A user by the name okridgee posted a video titled "Demoman is not the best tower", it showed how Demoman could not be able to beat Hidden Wave.
This turned into a huge massacre shortly afterwards.
Demoman/John fans pushed forward, squeezing okridgee in between. In almost no time. Okridgee was immediately ratioed entirely.
At this time, this was a tragic sighting.
Casualties:
The casualties were mainly against okridgee and the defenders, almost no one survived that day.
(4:11)
F in the chat for enforcer that got replaced by shotgunner
because below is adducted to nerfing the towers
_"What makes me a good Demoman? If I were a bad Demoman, I wouldn't be sitting here discussin' with ya now, would I?"_
Me : "shot a boss got by dude"
My friend : "dont worry we got a humvee"
I hope you hit one mill John I beleave
Edit:well every sub wants him UwU
John explains how demoman is op:which i agree
Also john spawns in like 10billion molten titans that cant even spawn that much from mystery bosses
Yea, as someone who just got to level 15 and is broke, this is true, when I solo molten mode, the demoman just does so much damage combined with shotgunner. It is insane, if you have 5 lvl 3 demo and 5 lvl 3 shotgunners, you can destroy 6 normal bosses in seconds. Although I struggle on slow bosses, I don't have support because broke, but still, its really good combined with shotgunner.
Accel + glad = better
@@ILOVEMINERSCR715 L + rato + no asked
@@mightyvadorDemoman sucks now. Fix your grammar and spelling next time.
@@ILOVEMINERSCR715 🤓🤓🤓
Demo with heavy weapons is a powerful combo,heavyweapons destroying hiddens and helping on molten Boss,demoman doing the same thing but shreding misteries
TDS community: the best towers are accelerator, gladiator, and commander
John: I like man with grenade, and a person a with sledge hammer
Me using demoman wrong:cricket noises
Me now when i use demoman properly:hmmm these is good
Is gold scout but worse
Edit: BEST solo strat for without glad
plave lvl 1 farm, get gold scout farm comes first. Keep farming until wave 7, place another scoutboth lvl 0, keep saving, wave 10 place lvl 2 accel, keep farming. If uhave bad rng place a lvl 3 further down track from 16 - 19. If u have a gud farming strat and gud rng u can finish farming wave 17, from then on spam accels and anything else, on most maps this is guaranteed under 20 mins ez molten win (lol u do need accel and gold scout tho) also it is recommended to place dj max out wave 21 so u can finish maxing out accels before wave 35 so u can place turret or smth
2:20 FARD NOISES
Holy, I haven't been watching you for like a year, and you have almost 900k subs now.
John has not made a arsenal video for the past two weeks, seems like he also quit arsenal
The best youtuber that makes monke noises
For high damage?use Accel.for hidden detection?use ace pilot or mil base.for higher range?use dj.for speed zombies?use ranger
john: demoman is the best tower
gladiator: challenge accepted
I would never thought, that the one tower I always place down, was op
Dare: Join a full mega server and give everyone 500k cash and spawn a fallen king. If they manage to defeat him say "Guys I think you made fallen king's brother mad!" And spawn a nuclear fallen king. If they defeat NFK then turn on troll mode and start trolling
TDS devs: welp time to built demo balance get everything set up **sniff glue and immidietly drugged demo with power** and this is my life now
3:17 lol nice but i fully upgraded my farm at wave 18 once lol
We finally see the good potential of demo man at wave 0-39