Hyped Backpacking Gear I AVOID...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2024
- 👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
Tiny Pump X2: geni.us/TinyPumpX
Ultra 5R Sleeping Pad: geni.us/Exped5R
InReach Messenger: geni.us/InReachMessenger
Plex Solo Tent: geni.us/PlexSolo
Lunar Solo Tent: geni.us/LunarSolo
X-Mid Pro 2 Tent: geni.us/XmidPro2
X-Mid Pro 2+ Tent: geni.us/XmidPro2Plus
Offset Trio Tent: geni.us/OffsetTrio
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⭐ MY FAVORITE GEAR ⭐
Garmin InReach Mini: geni.us/InReachMini2
Decathlon Down Jacket - geni.us/Trek100DownJacketM
REI Flash 55 Pack: geni.us/Flash55
Enlightened Equipment Enigma Quilt: geni.us/enigmadown
Garmin Fenix Watch: geni.us/FenixWatch
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
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📷 MY FILMING GEAR 📷
Sony ZV-E1: geni.us/Sony-ZVE1
GoPro Hero 11: geni.us/GoPro11
Insta360 One X3: geni.us/Insta-360
Rode Wireless Mic: geni.us/Rode-Wireless
Komperdell Camera Staff: geni.us/CameraStaff
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These are my thoughts based on my preferences. If your preferences are similar to mine, then you might agree. If your preferences are different, then you might disagree and not have any problems with this gear. AND THAT"S GREAT! I find it really interesting when people share their experiences and preferences and encourage that in the comments. But anyone making personal attacks will be blocked.
👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
Tiny Pump X2: geni.us/TinyPumpX
Ultra 5R Sleeping Pad: geni.us/Exped5R
InReach Messenger: geni.us/InReachMessenger
Plex Solo Tent: geni.us/PlexSolo
X-Mid Pro 2 Tent: geni.us/XmidPro2
X-Mid Pro 2+ Tent: geni.us/XmidPro2Plus
Offset Trio Tent: geni.us/OffsetTrio
I have the Xmid 1. This tent is great. Telling people to avoid very popular gear you've never used is wild to me.
The only downside to the Xmid 1 is it can't be setup with just 1 trekking pole. If there is a tree you can tie up the other peak though. Otherwise great tent, one of the best.
I have Xmid 2p and a rapide SL, I have never slept better outside, admittedly it was warm so I didn’t have to worry if the pad was cold or not, but I didn’t have issues with the tent and my hips weren’t in the dirt like my other pads, so for me I’m more than happy with them
Welcome to the world of youtube deception, brother!
@@terrypanama8004if that's the only thing you can suggest in your initial reply as a selling point for the X-mid, I'd hate to imagine the bias you have about tents that require 6 stakes (typical durston cultist response).
He explained why he hasn’t used it, and his reasons are what they are. The tent doesn’t fit Justin’s criteria for an ultralight single-person tent. He’s pretty straightforward about it in the video.
Knocking a tent that you haven't used is really lame.
I've been using the xmid. 1 pro for a year. Super quick and easy to set up. Not much faffing at all. At 6'2" the steep walls from the geometry makes it feel very spacious for me. The 2 vestibules are actually quite useful too, pack on one side and cooking on the other. I think you need to give it a go Justin. 4 pegs and 2 trekking poles takes less than 5 mins to set up.
I've used lots of two trekking pole tents. They just aren't for me most of the time when travelling solo. I can definitely see the benefits for some people.
I appreciate you sharing your experience and being civil with your comment.
The zero pump fully inflates my tensor all-season, guess I got lucky.
Same here. Lol. It weighs the same if not less than the pump sack.
Same. I have both the Zero Pump and the Tiny Pump. Both seemingly inflate to the same (perceived) pressure. Regardless, I have to top off with my breath with either pump. The main PRO for me with the Zero pump is that it truly connects to the valve so I don’t have to squat there holding the pump in place. Worth it to get the Zero pump to me. 100%
Same. I love mine! I do have to add extra breaths to my REI Helix though
same, the advantage is the zero inflates more pads than the X2. like the x2 won't inflate neoairs..... Also even if it doesn't get fully inflated I don't sleep on a fully inflated pad..... who does? ok i know people do.....
Hmm this is interesting! Maybe just a matter of preference as far as how inflated one likes their pad? I'm happy with my og tiny pump. Was thinking of upgrading mainly because the zero is so much quieter... But I think I'll wait for the next version. Not sure they've perfected it just yet! I like the lantern function as well.
Gonna have to disagree, Justin. I’m loving the Durston XMid 1p tent. Being able to have the spacious two vestibules in the summer is great, but the cherry on top for me is the ability to remove the inner and have a 490g, floorless, spacious, sil-poly, winter shelter for less than $250.
That's the only thing that is appealing to me in regards to the original X-mid. Where I live, this would be great to use in cooler/non-buggy months (using only the outer fly).
Great points and reasons the tent works well for you. Thanks for sharing!
Xmid 1 is great, for its price it is punching way above its weight class IMO. I feel like it is unfair to “review” gear and tell people to avoid when you don’t even have it yourself.
I agree the weight of the flextail is dumb because it doesnt include the battery (or pad adapter), but I disagree with the rest. It fully inflates my Xtherm no problem and the battery lasts me forever
How can you judge a product you never used before 🥴
Flextail zero has been amazing for me. Regardless of the pump chosen, you need to add a couple breaths at the end; that's perfectly normal.
I made a comment about this earlier but now that I'm thinking about it more, I wonder if that's by design? So that it doesn't over-inflate and potentially pop/damage your pad?
X-Mid 1 is a great tent only downside is it can't be setup with just 1 pole.
Pump zero has one marvellous feature. It is a brilliant fire stoker. I went out after a few days of wet weather, and it made getting a fire to catch a lot easier.
My wife sleeps cold as ice.She uses the Big Agnes Rapide SL and she slept on it snug as a bug with a budget quilt and that pad at around 35 degrees. Id say it performed better than advertised.
Was it the new release Rapide?
3 family members all have the SLI. No issues in freezing conditions. Just don’t believe what is said in the video. Unless he gets a thermal camera out etc.
Got 2 Big Agnes Rapide SL's in june 2023. Woke up super cozy high up in the Alps with frost all over the tent. BA + Zenbivy is a great combo. I move alot during my sleep and this system is perfect.
@@eakerz5642 I’ve the same combo. Zenbivy lights with these pads. 3 full sleeping systems and no complaints from anyone. I say again to this dude, provide some substantive evidence of what you say. Makes no sense. To recommend an Exped over a BG SLI is suspicious
I love my little Flextail Zero Pump! I have back problems, so after a long day, it’s nice to just basically set it and forget it while I do other camp chores and I love how small it is.
Definitely some misleading advertising, but even with the battery, it weighs almost exactly the same as my Nemo pump sack and I don’t mind having to add a couple quick breaths to finish it. It actually pumps my Nemo Tensor up exactly how firm I like it and no issues bottoming out, but I do have to add extra breaths into my REI Helix. Honestly, the low PSI is kind of a positive in my eyes because it gets it just about there without over inflating my pad if I turn away too long. Lol
Great video as usual, Justin! Your insight is always appreciated! 🤙🏼
I too have lower disc problems. And when the pain is at its worst, I cant even talk loudly without being in pain. So that pump is a god send lol
Spot on with the Flextail, but way off target with the Xmid 1. It is excellent, and two doors and porches are exactly what I need. I have the Solid version and it is warm for winter in the UK. A brilliant tent.
I love my two vestibules on my xmid! Plenty of room to fan out my gear. Let my shoes and clothes air out in one, put my backpack in the other. Tons of airflow when they’re both open, and keeps the sleeping area free of clutter! Blasphemy!
I think the Zero Pump is pretty good, even if it does not 100% inflate the mattress (mine does just fine), because topping out the last bit is simple and I can replace the battery on it/carry spare batteries for it. I strongly dislike products that do not have replaceable batteries as the product generally has to be thrown out in a couple of years once the battery wears out. I do wish they had used better aluminum in the Zero, as the threads are very gritty and will get worse with time due to wear. I suggest lubricating them with beeswax or similar to reduce thread wear. I also do not like those x in one products as they usually are substandard in all tasks.
Hey Justin.
I had the same thought about the x-mid 1 pro. But the two vestibules makes a lot of sense to me. First off, no matter which way you pitch it, you’ll aleats have the door in the “right” direction. Second, personally i use one vestibule for my backpack, shoes etc. And gerting in and out, the other vestibule i use for peeing in the night when it’s too cold for getting out of the bag or quilt 😂
Greeting s from scandinavia😊
Yep, pee vestibule is amazing! Also love that I can open up both doors for airflow when it's hot and humid
7:00 Would you want a side entry one person tent with one door and one vestibule or would it be a front entry tent? I've had tents in the past with front entry and I don't like crawling through them to get to things. I don't think I would like a side entry single person single door/vestibule tent. On paper, it sounds okay, but I like having two doors and two places to put gear. Makes it more spacious and I think it probably makes the airflow better.
Side entry is the only way to go for me.
The problem with the embedded battery for the Flextail is that when that built in battery dies, that's it. No more pump. With the Zero, when the battery dies, you can just get a new one.
most rechargeable batteries last about 500 recharge cycles or more :) depending on mat size - you get some 5-10 inflations from a tiny pump x - so about some 2500-5000 nights of inflating pads.... i dont know too many who uses their mats and pumps that much....
There are flashlights out there, which have an exchangeable battery AND the charging port on the outside. They could do that for this pump just as well
@@Simon-os2ez very true - lots of design choices i dont understand for the zero pump
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Off on the Durston X-mid tents.
Really some of the easiest tents to pitch ever for trekking pole tents and not complex at all. Stake four corners insert your poles, extend/lock, and adjust. (I use stakes for doors also).
I wouldn't disparage this tent for "complexity" until you try it.
Great video, love the insights and the focus on simplicity.
I’ve found the Zero Pump inflates exactly to my comfort level with my sleeping pad. I don’t ever fully inflate so that’s not an issue. Additionally, the removable/recharging battery is an advantage from my experience in that all these rechargeable battery devices are going to fail at some point so being able just get a new battery instead of replace the whole device is going to be helpful. Also, as better batteries are developed that have more power in the same form factor may up the PSI capabilities for the zero pump.
I just got a Garmin InReach Messenger on sale and really looking forward to using it. Thanks for all your reviews! What do you use to carry the Messenger on your pack since it doesn’t come with a carabiner like the Mini 2.
I have the messenger and it's everything I need from a satellite communicator. I was torn at first between it and the mini, but very glad I went with the messenger. I keep mine in the center mesh pocket.
I have a pair of leggings with a detachable zippered pocket that I can keep my messenger in. The other options I use are my ultralight fanny pack or the stuff sack from my friend's Toaks pot, which I have attached to the shoulder strap of my backpack. I definitely prefer to keep it with me if I don't have my backpack on. They do make a lanyard attachment for the messenger, but I don't know how durable the thinner cord on it is.
Charging port built into the device means once the battery dies the whole device is trash. I actually appreciate the design.
You can still have a removable battery my guy
Honestly though you could probably use a dremel and usb-c extension adapter that’s a female to male and just make the battery port externally accessible although that would make it less water resistant
There are flashlights out there, which have an exchangeable battery AND the charging port on the outside. They could do that for this pump just as well
I love the zero pump. I used it a few times on my winter pad and summer pad. No inflation issues. I can also blow up my pad several times on multiple trips so I have never needed to change it in the field so charging is a non issue.
I *just* ordered the Flex Pump Zero. It’s not here yet so I can’t comment, but my plan is for it to replace my Thermarest pump. That one takes a very long time to inflate, does not utilize a rechargeable battery, and doesn’t even come close to completely filling my pad, so my hope is that it’s an upgrade. I also just ordered the Altaplex tent so that I’ll have some room in my solo UL tent. Here’s hoping that works out as well.
I have a way older version of the flextail but I went back to a pump sack. The pump sack does more as the flextail I have has no light and the nozzles fall off but the pump sack is a pump, dry bag, pack liner and pillow case.
I've been using the Exped 5R for some time and I'm not disappointed. It is my go to pad for my upcoming JMT through hike. My preferred lightweight tent is the Zpacks Duplex I bought used (in great condition) for about 50% less than new retail AND it included the free standing kit, which I don't use. Easy to setup, plenty of room and light weight. The Tiny pump X2 I've not tried and appears to be one of the many "gimmick" items marketed to backpackers. I've never encountered a situation when I "needed" a pump. Every ounce counts and they all add up to pounds carried.
Just got the new NEMO Tensor All-Season and hoping it can live up to the warmth and comfort. They finally changed the bottom material to 40-denier so it should hopefully be less prone to leaks.
All depends about the airproof plastic/rubber layer inside. They don't really talk about the different materials and thicknesses of the membrane.
Great stuff - especially on the air pump advice.
You had me up till knocking dual vestibule solo tents. It was so difficult actually finding a symmetrical, dual vestibule, 1 p tent. I actually think only cottage brands are the ones offering these, and I'm so glad they do. It's so great having my stuff in 1 and going in and out from the other. Also, the symmetrical design makes it so that I don't have to decide between views or sleeping with my head upslope.
But if weight and complexity are the only considerations for someone, what you propose is spot on - especially with the Z Packs tent. That pole looks annoying lol!
Oh, and the sustainability of user replaceable, rechargeable batteries is awesome! If they could figure out how to make it a pass-through charge so the batteries could still be replaced, I think that's a win-win.
Looks like Zpacks got their design for the offset from the Six Moon Designs Haven. It's basically a DCF Haven lol
Do you find the Messenger any quicker at sending messages than the Mini does? My mini seems to have trouble sending in a reasonable amount of time which ends up eating battery...
Same internals as far as acquiring satellite connections assuming you mean the Mini 2.
Thx Justin, appreciate your videos. Regarding the pump. I have the Tiny Pump 2 and found that the adapter options don't fit well (too loose) against my REI Helix pad and requires it to be held during pumping. I heard someone/somewhere talk about putting electrical tape around the Tiny Pump adapter; this was a quick easy fix. I can now walk away from it and it stays in place. This same adapter happens to also work for the old NEMO Tensor as well, which my wife uses. I hear the Flextail has improved adapters that fit snuggly. And I agree with you; I appreciate the light and the built in charging port and won't be spending $50+ to save less than 2oz...now maybe if I was doing a thru hike 🤔
You should review movies you haven’t seen too.
The Zero Pump inflated perfectly with the Nemo Extreme pad. However, the OneTigris Obsidian struggled to reach full inflation, only around 80%. Had to give it some extra air with the sack
I have the older and only slightly heavier Flextail TinyPump and it's AMAZING. It inflates a pad fully, and three of us used one on a five night backpack, so we had to do 15 pad inflations, and it did so without needing a recharge.
Ha ha Justin, enjoy your channel but disagree with you about the zero pump, the rapide sl and the xmid - I hate rock hard pads so always empty some out. However on the flip side a pump sack is not going fail as easily but I love that I just start the zero and walk away especially after a long day.
I love the rapide sl but I’m not a winter camper it’s really comfortable, keeps me warm and I sleep cold. Love the xmid 2 person dynema, lightweight super easy to pitch and really functional 😂😂 each to their own - keep up the good work chap
Actually partly incorrect on the rapide sl. I emailed big agnes about the insulation and they said 1 layer sits on the bottom but the second later is suspended in the middle. You may have assumed that since the zoom ul does all sit on the bottom. They did confirm this.
When I shine the light through, there isnt a suspended layer. It looks just like the zoom UL. In other pads, where it is suspended, I can see the suspended film.
@JustinOutdoors ha. Interesting. They straight up lied to me then. They specifically said that the zoom ul was built this way but for the rapide sl had 1 sheet on bottom and one suspended in the middle. Happy to forward the email to you if you like.
@@JustinOutdoors I just bought one and held light up to it. I was ready to take advantage of the rei warranty. Lol. I can confirm that one of the mylar films is indeed suspended halfway in the middle of the pad.
I've only tried my Zero Pump at home, and have inflated my Nemo Quasar Insulated long/ wide, my son's Tensor insulated long/ wide and my daughter's BA Rapide SL. Honestly, it seems ideal so far. I like my pad fairly firm, and laid on both it and the Tensor on the floor. It seems perfect, where they are a bit overinflated, allowing to fine tune by dumping air until it's right. I'll be curious to see if a bit of a low charge on the battery has any effect on performance.
Thx for the videos Justin Indoors!
During my overnight shakedown, I used that pump and experienced the same issue. I'm going back to the Tensor inflation bag.
Thanks for the reviews Justin. You're down on the dual vestibule/dual door dyneema tents. But don't you think those features greatly improve the condensation problem or not much, especially on a trail like the AT? I'm trying to choose a tent for my future AT thru hike. Thanks again.
It really depends on the conditions. I find that when condensation is a big issue, it is usually cold at night or raining and I want to avoid having my doors wide open in order to avoid getting wet or cold from wind. Maybe having a really wind proof eeping bag or quilt would help with this. Condensation is usually really bad in 3 season conditions when it comes from sources that aren't you, in my experience, which means you need wind to make the double door system effective.
Thank you! I bought the Zero Pump based on the hype. Sounded great! I was very disappointed when I got it. May as well just use the pump sack. And yet I keep seeing these videos pop up that say how great it is. I have no clue what they're talking about.
mega agreed!
I had the old version of the rapide and it slept cold for me. I was excited for the new one till your review. So thanks for that. Also took your advice and steered clear of the motorola defy also. You've been a big help for saving money and buying the right stuff the first time.
I love my x-mid. Love the space to store gear in the vestibules
My wife sleeps cold and the Rapide is the only pad she will use. Cant believe people are saying it sleeps cold lol
Don’t believe it. Nothing wrong with the SLI
Sort your end screen out 😉
Yup. I found the Rapide SL was cold in september at +7°C so I sent it back. Not good for a 4.8 pad
I am glad i didn't buy one of these..when i was looking for one they were sold out thankfully.
So you mean the old version? Because AFAIK the new one had not yet been released in September.
@@jorisev it was definitely the new version
I agree on using a pump to blow up my sleeping pad. I just got the Tensor All Season Long/Wide and it took just a couple of moments to blow up by mouth, which saves a couple of ounces, another thing to recharge, another thing to pack and care for, and a few bucks, of course. I can understand hikers enjoying avoiding the blow-up chore, but for me it's not an issue.
Totally agree about the Big Agnes Rapide SL Insulated. I was so unpleasantly surprised during a ~32F/0C night. The pad felt so cold even though I was sleeping in a -9 sleeping bag and in long sleeve underwear. I was toasty from the top, but I felt so much cold from the bottom, from the pad. It is such an uncomfortable feeling when you feel cold from the pad. Mine was bought in Feb 2024.
Thanks for sharing your experience! The purchase date helps a lot. I imagine there were some previous version pads getting sold at the same time as the new ones back at the end of 2023 and early 2024.
The max pump pro 2 is my new favorite after using both the tiny pump x and X2. With the max pump i can also charge a lamp or phone if needed. So its an extra battery for only a couple more oz
Like my tiny x2. It works really well with my exped 3r I use for summer. The shnozzle pump sack that comes with it works great to. I can't wait to try it on the zenbivy ul mattress I just ordered.
I have a new version of x-mid 2 and love it. Easy to get a perfect pitch and big enough for my dog. Thanks for your gear opinions!
New to backpacking, and was initially interested in that Motorola satellite device. It’s something I’d only use a handful of times a year. Would you recommend one of the Garmin devices as a low cost occasional use device? I have a hard time understanding their pricing plans. Generally seem to be better than the others like Spot or Zoleo though? Is the mapping function on the mini2 worth it over the messenger?
For warm weather in the tropics the two doors work amazingly at maximizing ventilation and reducing condensation to the minimum.
Just like other people, the FlexTail Zero is a good product IMO. A few breaths is always required to top off most other inflation options and not a big deal, kind of a weak complaint.
I agree that the zero pump isn’t with the hype. I have to top it off with a few breaths to get my mattress firm enough. It’s also a horrible color, easy to drop/lose at night and you can’t read any of the engraving on it.
Good video. The backpacking, hiking, and camping industry are so prone to fads and hype that the best thing to do is be behind the curve.
Absolutely agree about the Flextail Zero and I’m glad someone finally said something because it was driving me up the wall.
However, saying the X-Mid 1 setup is “complex” is ridiculous.
I got the small flextail zero pump and i like it for the small form factor. However the very fine threads when unscrewing the bottom cap is very sketchy and continously produce metal shavings which indicate that the threads will eventually fail.
I picked because someone made thorough test and a bunch of these kind of pumps, and it scored an overall average score which is acceptable considering how small it is.
From the title I already knew you'd go off about the BA Rapide SL again... Anyway, so far I'm very happy with mine, and it's not the first time our opinions differ completely (I find the Trekology pillow uncomfortable and of cheap quality).
I bought the GIGA Pump 2.0 at Ali and it is good. 0.6 psi, USB-C charging, 110 grams (3.9 oz). It can also deflate and have LED light
Sorry to hear about the Motorola SOS device. Just bought one during winter. Hope they SOS will continue to work. Too much money to replace monthly.
I passed on the zero pump because I couldn’t easily recharge it like you said and they were very sleazy with their marketing and not being up front with the weight. I have the regular flextail pump which I love. Sometimes I have my whole family and it is a very necessary tool when I have to inflate 5 pads 😂.
I like the pump for deflation which I really hate in the morning. Makes that camp core easy.
I share your views about a mattress pump. It takes 3 times less than those expensive gadgets to inflate my Nemo with the provided bag. When I go out it’s to escape the noise of the city I live in. This is also why I bring a Trangia alcohol cooking stove…no noise at all.😊
I don't know how you can recommend avoiding this pump. I don't have any issues with it. It pumps my Thermarest Xlite NXT Max in 1:40 minutes and in contrast to your statement I need to deflate it a bit, because it's too hard to sleep on it.
It's much lighter and much quieter than the previous model.
So I can highly recommend it!
bought the zero.sent it back and got the next size up with light and magnet.little noisier but pumps the pad right up
As for the first point, I didn’t get one to necessarily get the full inflate, I got it because I’m lazy. I do t mind a breath or two to get the perfect PSI
I find a fully inflated pad too firm; for me the Flextail zero pump is perfect for what I need. The battery removal is a small downside. I have the old Flextail tiny pump and the new Flextail zero pump and I think they both have their purposes but I prefer the smaller lighter pump for backpacking.
I have the Tiny pump X2, but I have noticed in at home testing, the battery will selfe discharge to 0 in a day or so. It just can not hold a charge at all. I haven't found anything that says this is normal, but it has turned me off on any of these tiny pumps.
You should probably just contact them, it sounds like you got a defective one. The fact that you've researched it and not been able to find anyone saying the same should tell you that it's yours that's defective. I certainly do not have that problem.
When I did part of the AT this year I took this pump and it only worked two days. I left my inflation sack at home to safe weight and was screwed.
I can confirm the Flextail pump struggles to inflate my sleep mattress (NEMO Tensor Extreme Conditions). Just used it last weekend (the third time out with this pump), and it underperformed again. Like you, I had to add additional air with my own lungs - travesty, I know. LOL. Note, while the recharging method of the pump's battery isn't a deal breaker for me, the pump's underperformance is.
I'll be going back to my Flextail Tiny Pump X2. While a little heavier.
Hey Justin, I know you've experienced so many tents. I'm pretty much aware of all the options for tall hikers, but it's hard to make a decision on specs alone. Do you have a recommendation for me? I'm 6'6'' and sleep on a tensor. I'm mostly camping solo, but would like to have space for an average-size gal every once and awhile. $500-700 range. I feel like my options are the Tarptent D.R. , Durston 2 Pro +, or one of the newer Z-packs tents. I live in the PNW so rain is a factor. What would you go with if you were my height? Thanks!
Get the durston. If you plan on camp during the summer... the 3r rating should be fine. 40 to 20f a 5r rating be efficient.
I’m 6’5” and tried just about everything I could get my hands on. Even though the footprint is less than ideal, I can’t seem to find a better option than the XMid Pro 2, though I lay a bit crooked. The XMid Pro 1 was tiny, just like the Zpacks Altaplex and TarpTent Aeon, and Gossamer Gear 1 & 2 weren’t long enough. Duplex wasn’t long enough either. The TarpTent Rainbow or Double Rainbow Li had merit and might be worth consideration. For two people, I’d probably go with the XMid Pro 2+. I’m on a Tensor. I’d love a single pole trekking pole tent with a small footprint…but it doesn’t exist.
The X-Mid Pro 2+ is such a solid option. Big footprint, but lots of space for how lightweight it is.
My only complaint with the FT zero is that it doesn't have a lock feature so you can't accidentally turn it on when packing it away.
How do i tell which rapide sl i have?
Tags? Primaloft should be noticeable
Oh, with the zero pump, i need to blow a few times at the end instead of multiple, multiple times?
Oh, and i should get the other pump because it has higher psi?
Either way, when the pump is removed, a few blows are necessary because air escapes on removal. Same with the bag.
Wow, I like my zero pump. I use an extra breath even when using a bag as well as other pumps. I love the size. I have the tiny pump but it was too bulky for my liking.
I disagree with the flextail. I think it's still worth it. Do I need to top it off? Yup. But I sleep on a 72x30 big agnes. Blowing that sucker up with a bag or by mouth is a major PITA. Once I went with a pump I'd never go back.
The battery is great. Who care that it's 3 pieces. You don't open it up unless you are recharging (which you can do with a power pack that many of us carry anyway for our phones/camera). I'll ALWAYS take having an easily replaceable battery over a device that has a non-swap-able battery.
I still recommend the flextail personally.
Two doors are useful to allow for a breeze to go through
I am 6.2 and i feel the xmid pro 1p tent is more then enough room, especially with the 2 vestibules! 1 for gear and the other for entrance.
I am a little bit disappointed in the flex tail zero pump though. But i just ordered zenbivys ul pad and since the stuff sack is also used to inflate the sack i might just ditch the pump.
The good thing about the Zero Pump, as opposed to the other items on this list, is that if you buy it and don't like it, you're not out a ton of money.
new upload lets go
and then you have the tiny pump x 2024... 1.66oz (lighter then the zero pump with battery) it has a bigger battery, pumps up to 0.58 psi - and has a build in light ... and costs half ... tell me again any reason to buy the zero pump? :D
The pumpsack from my NXT leaks so much air through the fabric / seams, that's crazy for a 200$ product :(
Agree on the offset, those struts that you must insert into a tiny pieces of fabric just feels like a band-aid solution... I'm sure there is a more elegant and practical way to do that.
What temu tent would you suggest 🤔
Wow...someome agrees with me about the Flextail Zero. It really doesn't work for me. I got so much crap for saying this in my review.
Disappointed about the Rapide , was planning on getting one because of the comfort but they changed the design. Glad I waited for the reviews instead of wasting my money.
7:20 two doors offers far more in flexibility than you would you would notice in weight gain. Thats just me.
Agreed on the Tiny Pump. It’s weak and cheap, thin like a beer can.
The best feature it offers is a reminder that TH-camrs will hawk anything they get for free if it gets them a few bucks.
The X-Men one in the pro one are the perfect size for an actual ultralight backpacker have two poles and four steaks unlike the Plex solo one oddly place and then 798,000 steaks and provides little headroom unless you’re sitting
That zero pump is for thruhikers and worth the couple ounces to save blowing up a pad 180 times on a thru.
Interesting observations on the new BA Rapide SL. Thank you for trying that out .
Agreed that the advertising for the zero pump is misleading. Maybe the 1.2 oz is the equivalent of the “trail weight” for tents! 😂
I appreciate the disclaimer that you haven’t tried the two main tents you mentioned. I do agree with some others in the chat that it seems a little unfair to knock on gear that you haven’t tried out even if the concept of the two tents seems off. Your other observable points i find valid per your preference (i.e. multiple vestibules).
Thanks for putting this together.
I have gone through 2 zero pumps and neither have worked. The first one the start button kept falling out, the second one it would pump up my mattress halfway and just stop.
Im so disappointed in the flextail zero. Its annoyingly loud and so embarrassing when at a quiet campsite and i had to run it for a long time to not even fully inflate my sleeping pad. I mainly got it to help deflate and it didn't even do that.
I have the flextail zero pump it pumps up my nemo tensor up amazing I love it and I have the xmid tent one of the most popular tents pretty much everyone I have seen loves them so to say they are overrated is crazy with you not even using it maybe say gear you think is overrated
I'm pretty sure I say right in the beginning that this is what I think and isn't the "be all end all" when it comes to this gear?
@JustinOutdoors well maybe don't use clickbait video titles I can already tell you have changed it so you know you messed up sort the channel out mate your starting to slip
I thought it was only me dealing with flextail
Nah i think it works great!
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
@@JustinOutdoors yeah man I actually tested it on the last video. Could be your battery mine blow up a long and Wide pad like nobody businesses
Do not agree on the zero pump. That thing is awesome. It weighs LESS than the stuff/pump sack for my Etherlite XT (with the battery), and inflates it to 98% in about a minute. It only takes one or two breaths get it to full inflation, but I find it more comfortable at slightly less than fully inflated.
Nah on pump. One more thing to worry about.
unrelated but immediate. I hate the fact that youtube shove recommended videos below this video. It's forcing interaction and focus away from the video im currently watching. Is there a way to turn this back or off?
Another thing to keep in mind is the Flextail Zero Pump is actually lighter than most pump sacks. Not by a lot of course, but there's actually a small weight penalty to using the pump sack. For reference, my Flextail Zero weighs 58.6 grams all in - that's with the Nemo Adapter and the battery. The Nemo Vortex pump sack weighs 60 grams, the Big Agnes pump sack weighs 112 grams, and the Thermarest pump sack weighs 76 grams.
Pump sack is free with the pad. The flextail is a waste of money. And can break / run out of battery. AND as mentioned in the video, it doesn’t even inflate the pad fully. So, fail. On many fronts.
I can appreciate you sharing your own opinion BUT I think it’s unfortunate for an “influencer” to disparage a piece of gear that you’ve never even tried before. It’s the same thing as promoting gear that you’ve never tried. Untrustworthy. Certainly doesn’t add any value to the conversation to be spouting opinions without any experience with the product.
And yes, I own an XMid 1p and love it.