@@NetvoTVThere are probably niche applications that still use CCD sensors instead of CMOS. And there are a lot of companies that make image sensors that are not targeted at consumer (or even classic imaging), but medical/military/etc... so I'm sure there are some old runs of that kind of equipment that still uses CCDs for historical reasons.
CCD will never stop they are still used in medical, genomic research,drug discovery, astronomy, telescopes and much more only not in consumer electronics
I built two ccd cameras from scratch in 2006~2008, It was my biggest achievement. Watching your video I remembered how happy I was doing these projects, thanks for sharing!
Being able to make a ful frame CCD working at all as a hobby project is seriously impressive. I would like to make a digital back for my classic cameras and if I don't want a crazy crop factor using a sensor like this is the way to go.
Just like the famous Brian Eno quote: > “Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature,” artist and producer Brian Eno wrote in his 1996 book A Year with Swollen Appendices. “CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided.”
This is incredible, i would imagine such a project can be very useful for astrophotographers, since astro cameras dont need screens or on camera controls and its all through USB. The only different thing is a cooling solution, usually on the market is a 2 stage TEC cooler. CCD camera like 11000 are very expensive in the astro world, maybe a DIY solution can finally be a good CCD option!
While I don't understand your specific jargons. I find this content very entertaining. I'm a camera lens tinkerer myself but in no such way into advance electronics.
Holy Cow! This is an awesome project. And the first images actually looked quite good. Well done you, you should be very proud of your efforts. This is def not easy!
This is super cool man. Can I ask one favour of you in the second video? Can you please just acknowledge how awesome of a job you did to create a working digital camera. Seriously, well done.
This is a truly impressive project, I love photography and I‘m starting to get interested in how digital cameras work, this is a very nice overview of how it all comes together. I wish it was as easy as buying a bunch of digicam spare parts and frankenstein-ing them together but it can‘t be that easy unfortunately.. I’m looking forward for the next steps in this project!!
This is crazy impressive. I'm looking forward to see how the project advances. Hopefully in the future there'll be many more small camera projects based on discoveries and experience like this.
Impressive. Full frame too. Id love to see the progression. Also maybe even miniaturize it to build your own version of a digital converter for film cameras.
Seriously impressive! I've always wanted to try this but it's so far beyond my experience that actually getting anything out of the CCD would take me until next century.
Oh my God, this is so cool. I would LOVE to build my own camera 😍 Subscribed, I am dying to see where this goes! I have had SO many cameras over the last 25 or so years. I have LOVED a few, like the Sony a57, the a6700, the a7iv, or the rx100v, etc. But all my best cameras would always lack SOMETHING, that is readily available on another camera, and THAT camera is lacking other things, etc. Never a complete package, y'know? I am constantly wishing I could customize a perfect camera for me. Hopefully one day we'll get there! A perfectly modular camera system 😁
This is so cool!! I absolutely love the idea of making a camera from scratch like this, but I definitely lack the skills to do so. I would love to test something like this, excited to see how your progress goes!
this is amazing, so far the only similar project Ive seen was the cam85 and its upgrades, also this is where Im smart enough to understand how it works but not smart enough to build it myself
I wanted to build/design a camera as well by myself, but i stuck with a mipi csi2 interface because that what you did was way too complex for me. nice work!!!
Several years ago there was a guy who took a Leica M3 and replaced the film section with a digital sensor. He had no plans to improve the prototype, but he proved it could be done.
Nice job! Also yeah, trying to acquire recent high quality CCD or CMOS sensors is such a pain in the ass... I hate it. There are some decent sensors available from Digikey and Mouser though. Have been scoping out parts for a linear CCD scanner... likely using the Toshiba TCD2919BFG (10680x4 pixels, available from Mouser with datasheet), the AD9826, and a Zynq SoC.
wow amazing project, i wouldn't know where to even begin! the images have a strange beauty to them, they look somewhere in between an old mobile phone camera and a sharp 35mm analog camera
My friend, do you think it is possible for me to create a digital back for my Hasselbad? I would have to fix the focal length, if I bought the camera with the lens, or I would have to have an optical element that compensates for the difference in sensor sizes, if I choose to use the sensor option without a lens.
Excellent ! simply to understand every bit in the process is very difficult, let alone to DIY a working camera, I believe if you can get hold of a Foveon sensor it would be much easier right ?
This is great. I also really like those example pictures. The glitchy quality is something you should keep as an option, if that is possible! Having IR be somehow switchable would be great too!
I planned to build a portable thermal imaging system a few years ago. Sadly I lack the time, skills and equipment to get this project going. So you managing to build a usable camera platform for visible light is encouraging to revive my project. I also wonder if it's possible to build a digital large format camera using x-ray detector plates with the fluorescence layer removed...
Thanks! That might be a possibility, I am not super familiar with these detector plates, but I do know there are a few different types and probably some of them could potentially work. But first I need to get myself familiarized with large format photography in general...
Amazing project! Regarding the AFE, have you tried reaching out to AD? They should be able to set you up with register initialization lists to help you troubleshoot any timing issues you're having. I work with a lot of image sensors professionally and you basically always just get the register values from the company (and image sensors are notorious for undocumented register values). The register documentation in the datasheet is just there if you need to modify something specific.
Awesome project. It's really impressive how can you just put together available components and it just works somehow I've seen a bit different project of diy camera here on youtube. Someone used a linear sensor from the scanner to mimic medium format sensor. Pictures was high quality but design was really clunky with remaining scanner parts. Wish I could make something like that by myself, heh.
I wouldn't say the images look good in a photography way, but they look really cool, specially taking into consideration you built the hole thing... Did you say no IR cut filter??? Now you need to test that for astrophotography!
would really be interest to see where this project could go video wise, ccd movie cameras with such a large sensor certainly produce a rare and sometime coveted look. Maybe a separate onboard computer could handle all the data recording video necessitates idk, I'm no expert. Hope a version 2.0 is in the works that addresses some of problems you showcased! can't wait!
Great video! CCD technology excels in many aspects. If only companies cared more about quality than just profits, we'd have cameras with superior quality today, free from issues like rolling shutter and many other problems we've grown accustomed to. We often settle for images plagued by noise, relying on AI-based post-processing for enhancements.
Working for Leica since half a year as an imaging software engineer, I must disagree. There has been a huge amount of progress in image sensor technology over the years. It's basically been an arms race. Withhin the last 15 years, we went from plain and simple sensors like in this video to very sophisticated devices, offering great noise performance, dynamic range now comparable to analog film and sensor readout rates that could be only dreamt of until recently. Global shutter full frame DSLRs are slowly emerging too (Sony a9 III), but having a global shutter complicates the design and introduces a lot of noise, so it's a huge technological challenge - especially when it's to be made large resolution. What advantages do old CCDs have over modern CMOS sensors?
Please provide some guidance for making our own camera modules , using existing Camera Sensors, I really want to integrate a ESP32 OVO cam to a rp2040 , just for fun, but I have no clue from were to begin.
You got a full frame Kodak CCD sensor... how much was that? I think the sony IMX would've been better and getting the datasheetm I'm sure some suppliers at eBay can hand some over to you.
CCD live view is wonky as hell i have several CCD digitalbacks and they are extremely sensitive to light, meaning the image is overexposed and it has only several frames per second. i assume the CPU isnt fast enough, in those old backs, to process the information of a CCD sensor, especially with high MP count. mind that a CCD sensor reads out all lines at once, whereas a CMOS sensor reads out line by line i would love to see a team like magic lantern take on older phase one digital backs and max them out to the limit. would love to see proper live view and electronic shutter
In fact this project started as an attempt to make open source digital backs for film bodies. Later the scope was reduced to basically just get the digital part working and care less about how to actually integrate it with a film camera.
Impressing (got link from DPR's site). Still, decades worth of experience and passion is not in the cards for me; guess I'll still fork out the dough for a off the shelf camera. lol :)
I find it hard to find any kind of camera module that's mostly built with a ccd. I don't know enough electrical engineering to design boards for a ccd image sensor.
You've sourced bunch of Kodak full frame CCDs!? You lucky bastard!
How he do that tho, there is still new olds stock of CCD? or companies still produce CCD sensors?
@@NetvoTVThere are probably niche applications that still use CCD sensors instead of CMOS. And there are a lot of companies that make image sensors that are not targeted at consumer (or even classic imaging), but medical/military/etc... so I'm sure there are some old runs of that kind of equipment that still uses CCDs for historical reasons.
CCD will never stop they are still used in medical, genomic research,drug discovery, astronomy, telescopes and much more only not in consumer electronics
@@JorenVaesbut how did he find it and the datasheet?i mean i can only find sensors for a commercial dslr but they are closed source.
@@sunnysurwade464why is that?
Creating a digital camera from concept to completion all by yourself is quite an achievement. Thanks for sharing your work!
I built two ccd cameras from scratch in 2006~2008, It was my biggest achievement. Watching your video I remembered how happy I was doing these projects, thanks for sharing!
3:26 "we do this not because it is easy but because we thought it would be easy" lmao. good job though, this is really cool
very nice! i think some of the glitches look quite aesthetic actually
turning a datasheet into working code is very impressive
I was just about to say the same thing! What unique effects... quite gorgeous really.
Being able to make a ful frame CCD working at all as a hobby project is seriously impressive. I would like to make a digital back for my classic cameras and if I don't want a crazy crop factor using a sensor like this is the way to go.
Just like the famous Brian Eno quote:
> “Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature,” artist and producer Brian Eno wrote in his 1996 book A Year with Swollen Appendices. “CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided.”
getting the data sheets for these non commercial image sensors is the hard part
This is incredible, i would imagine such a project can be very useful for astrophotographers, since astro cameras dont need screens or on camera controls and its all through USB.
The only different thing is a cooling solution, usually on the market is a 2 stage TEC cooler.
CCD camera like 11000 are very expensive in the astro world, maybe a DIY solution can finally be a good CCD option!
glitches are part of the soul of the device I like them, very nice project thanks for sharing
I occasionally ride a bike but never built my own. Hats off to you for this project🙏
I like the how the glitchy photos look, especially the first one with the trees and clouds! It gives the photos a mysterious feel
Finally someone is making a full frame digital back for film camera, hope to see it soon
While I don't understand your specific jargons. I find this content very entertaining. I'm a camera lens tinkerer myself but in no such way into advance electronics.
What have you tinkered on? Would love to know!
This shows how impressive
Modern cameras are … they have gone through so many challenges for us to snap pictures.
Holy Cow! This is an awesome project. And the first images actually looked quite good. Well done you, you should be very proud of your efforts. This is def not easy!
This is super cool man.
Can I ask one favour of you in the second video?
Can you please just acknowledge how awesome of a job you did to create a working digital camera. Seriously, well done.
hey you might be interested in making a camera from a scanner, look it up! its super interesting, you can get like 400MP out of it xD
This is a truly impressive project, I love photography and I‘m starting to get interested in how digital cameras work, this is a very nice overview of how it all comes together. I wish it was as easy as buying a bunch of digicam spare parts and frankenstein-ing them together but it can‘t be that easy unfortunately.. I’m looking forward for the next steps in this project!!
wow you're a wizard of an engineer for bringing all of these parts together into something so beautiful
this is a very good video for explaining why cameras are so expensive. a lot of technology and development here
This is crazy impressive. I'm looking forward to see how the project advances. Hopefully in the future there'll be many more small camera projects based on discoveries and experience like this.
Impressive. Full frame too. Id love to see the progression. Also maybe even miniaturize it to build your own version of a digital converter for film cameras.
Awesome achievement, such project requires quite some energy and diverse skills to get through, you're inspiring
My respect to you
Seriously impressive! I've always wanted to try this but it's so far beyond my experience that actually getting anything out of the CCD would take me until next century.
Impressive to get to this stage! Look forward to the next stage :)
Oh my God, this is so cool. I would LOVE to build my own camera 😍
Subscribed, I am dying to see where this goes! I have had SO many cameras over the last 25 or so years. I have LOVED a few, like the Sony a57, the a6700, the a7iv, or the rx100v, etc. But all my best cameras would always lack SOMETHING, that is readily available on another camera, and THAT camera is lacking other things, etc. Never a complete package, y'know? I am constantly wishing I could customize a perfect camera for me. Hopefully one day we'll get there! A perfectly modular camera system 😁
This is honestly super awesome! Goodluck with the project, can't wait to see how it progresses.
Amazing build and impressive progress! I look forward to seeing your development of this camera!
This is so cool!! I absolutely love the idea of making a camera from scratch like this, but I definitely lack the skills to do so. I would love to test something like this, excited to see how your progress goes!
Maybe it's just me, but these distorted glitchy photos have some charm to them and I would love to have a camera which does this type of wild images
I thought the exact same thing. A real practical effect
this is amazing, so far the only similar project Ive seen was the cam85 and its upgrades, also this is where Im smart enough to understand how it works but not smart enough to build it myself
Photo of those flowers and a firedoor are pleasing af! Could use those for some projects just like that.
This was amazing, I can’t way until see more improvements from you or from someone else who got inspired by your work, thank you for sharing it ❤
This is a very inspiring project, looking forward to how it turns out.
I wanted to build/design a camera as well by myself, but i stuck with a mipi csi2 interface because that what you did was way too complex for me. nice work!!!
Wow, you're a hero, man!
Several years ago there was a guy who took a Leica M3 and replaced the film section with a digital sensor. He had no plans to improve the prototype, but he proved it could be done.
Nice job! Also yeah, trying to acquire recent high quality CCD or CMOS sensors is such a pain in the ass... I hate it. There are some decent sensors available from Digikey and Mouser though. Have been scoping out parts for a linear CCD scanner... likely using the Toshiba TCD2919BFG (10680x4 pixels, available from Mouser with datasheet), the AD9826, and a Zynq SoC.
Very cool project! I was thinking about doing something similar myself a while back. But judging from your video I was in over my head.
It still needs some work but they images already look impressive. And the pcb design? Gosh its gorgeous
wow amazing project, i wouldn't know where to even begin! the images have a strange beauty to them, they look somewhere in between an old mobile phone camera and a sharp 35mm analog camera
I love the artifacts
This is truly impressive work!
Great project. Thanks for sharing. This is much more complex than I imagined.
My friend, do you think it is possible for me to create a digital back for my Hasselbad? I would have to fix the focal length, if I bought the camera with the lens, or I would have to have an optical element that compensates for the difference in sensor sizes, if I choose to use the sensor option without a lens.
the photos look pretty good! well done
Excellent ! simply to understand every bit in the process is very difficult, let alone to DIY a working camera, I believe if you can get hold of a Foveon sensor it would be much easier right ?
This is great. I also really like those example pictures. The glitchy quality is something you should keep as an option, if that is possible!
Having IR be somehow switchable would be great too!
i like the sample photos they look awesome
Thanks a lot for doing this and making it open source 👍
That is AWESOME! SUPER difficult! Well done!
Please built an apparatus to convert old slr s to digitals. U are the man of this dream
Amazing work! Hope you'll continue to develop this until people can buy it. Subscribed.
impressive work ! good luck and wish you all the best
I planned to build a portable thermal imaging system a few years ago. Sadly I lack the time, skills and equipment to get this project going. So you managing to build a usable camera platform for visible light is encouraging to revive my project.
I also wonder if it's possible to build a digital large format camera using x-ray detector plates with the fluorescence layer removed...
Thanks! That might be a possibility, I am not super familiar with these detector plates, but I do know there are a few different types and probably some of them could potentially work. But first I need to get myself familiarized with large format photography in general...
Amazing project! Regarding the AFE, have you tried reaching out to AD? They should be able to set you up with register initialization lists to help you troubleshoot any timing issues you're having. I work with a lot of image sensors professionally and you basically always just get the register values from the company (and image sensors are notorious for undocumented register values). The register documentation in the datasheet is just there if you need to modify something specific.
great research and implementation 💯💯
Awesome project.
It's really impressive how can you just put together available components and it just works somehow
I've seen a bit different project of diy camera here on youtube. Someone used a linear sensor from the scanner to mimic medium format sensor. Pictures was high quality but design was really clunky with remaining scanner parts.
Wish I could make something like that by myself, heh.
Great project
Thanks a lot for sharing; you inspired me. Now I want to try to make one.
this is wild. Congrats man
That is awesome! Really cool project and implementation :)
This is a nice achievement. Good job!
こういう動画を見てると自分も作れる気がしてくる
そうして今手元には悲しきかな、センサーのみがある
I wouldn't say the images look good in a photography way, but they look really cool, specially taking into consideration you built the hole thing...
Did you say no IR cut filter??? Now you need to test that for astrophotography!
Really Good Project! Nice Work
This readout speed is very similar to what we see in the Phase One digital backs like IQ180 (CCD sensor)
would really be interest to see where this project could go video wise, ccd movie cameras with such a large sensor certainly produce a rare and sometime coveted look. Maybe a separate onboard computer could handle all the data recording video necessitates idk, I'm no expert. Hope a version 2.0 is in the works that addresses some of problems you showcased! can't wait!
im very curious to see it the project growing
Truely impressive :) I look forward to your next update :)
Thanks! Currently working on the next revision, had to redesign majority of the things so it's taking a bit long
Thanks for making this video 👍
A camera like this would be super cool to take on an urbex trip. Amazing work. I'd love to build one of these some day
Wow! This is pretty amazing!
Great video! CCD technology excels in many aspects. If only companies cared more about quality than just profits, we'd have cameras with superior quality today, free from issues like rolling shutter and many other problems we've grown accustomed to. We often settle for images plagued by noise, relying on AI-based post-processing for enhancements.
Working for Leica since half a year as an imaging software engineer, I must disagree. There has been a huge amount of progress in image sensor technology over the years. It's basically been an arms race. Withhin the last 15 years, we went from plain and simple sensors like in this video to very sophisticated devices, offering great noise performance, dynamic range now comparable to analog film and sensor readout rates that could be only dreamt of until recently. Global shutter full frame DSLRs are slowly emerging too (Sony a9 III), but having a global shutter complicates the design and introduces a lot of noise, so it's a huge technological challenge - especially when it's to be made large resolution. What advantages do old CCDs have over modern CMOS sensors?
Please provide some guidance for making our own camera modules , using existing Camera Sensors, I really want to integrate a ESP32 OVO cam to a rp2040 , just for fun, but I have no clue from were to begin.
You got a full frame Kodak CCD sensor... how much was that? I think the sony IMX would've been better and getting the datasheetm I'm sure some suppliers at eBay can hand some over to you.
11:50 WTH is going on in the upper left corner????
CCD live view is wonky as hell
i have several CCD digitalbacks and they are extremely sensitive to light, meaning the image is overexposed and it has only several frames per second.
i assume the CPU isnt fast enough, in those old backs, to process the information of a CCD sensor, especially with high MP count. mind that a CCD sensor reads out all lines at once, whereas a CMOS sensor reads out line by line
i would love to see a team like magic lantern take on older phase one digital backs and max them out to the limit.
would love to see proper live view and electronic shutter
没想到传说中的ccd会出现在我的首页上。久仰，Wenting兄！
Id be really interested in making open source digital backs for film bodies like this. Leicaflex SL with a CCD? Sign me up!
In fact this project started as an attempt to make open source digital backs for film bodies. Later the scope was reduced to basically just get the digital part working and care less about how to actually integrate it with a film camera.
what if you ran it with an stm32 would you get good quality like 4k???
Impressing (got link from DPR's site). Still, decades worth of experience and passion is not in the cards for me; guess I'll still fork out the dough for a off the shelf camera. lol
:)
Good work, looking forward yo improved version
I find it hard to find any kind of camera module that's mostly built with a ccd. I don't know enough electrical engineering to design boards for a ccd image sensor.
Sanest Nekopara fan
I want a camera that only shoots raw, with no screen, a large battery, no SD cards, and a viewfinder on the top and not on the side.
Very nice. Typical colors for a sensor that has no IR block filter.
it's like magic to me
super cool
Could JLC print acrylic leases? That's a project: )
Cool project! Can you run a faster clock?
absolutely amazing)
Nice try! Good job. 👍 加油，希望你能做的更好，期待你的改进！
Bro just built a ccd camera all himself.
Is there a way to download sample photos
this is incredible!
holy shit you madlad; actually done did it!
where is the rest???
That's amazing!
Very impressive 👌
That's super big brain 😮
so cool!
Amazing
man, this is awesome!
Where is the power supply noise coming from? I assume this is battery powered?