You’re doing an amazing job, and it’s clear you know what you’re doing. Don’t worry about those who complain that every ‘influencer’ or wannabe has already talked about these lenses. You’re an experienced professional working in the industry, so your opinion holds real value. Beginners might not always recognize that, especially with the way content is often catered to them. As a professional filmmaker myself, I consider you one of the few real filmmakers I actually watch and learn from. I’ve been watching your videos for a long time now. Had to come out and say this.
I had to make a comment after reading some terrible comments on here. I think Tenfold is prob the only legit "youtuber" /DOP on this platform that makes good shit. High quality productions with bts on every shoot. Every other youtuber is just a content creator tying to make it look like they get free stuff cuz they are a "filmmaker". Keep up the good work bro!
Every TH-camr has a video out on these...i think your statement of no one knows is very incorrect thanks to the efforts of DZOfilm sending these for review to every popular gear reviewer under the sun.
Appreciate the feedback! We rarely do reviews, and when we do, we try to actually shoot them in the field and not just simple tests. We appreciate you watching though, we're always trying to improve and make videos that are fun and accurate to the products.
@@TenfoldProduction Yall are one of the rare channels actually working on the professional commercial level and still putting out quality content. Thank you for doing these types of videos.
There’s a difference between random TH-camrs and actual filmmakers/ commercial production companies. Every TH-camr use the term filmmaker or etc and don’t actually make anything. This channel is not that! They’re legit
Just received the 35. It's (almost) everything I need, but of course, the 75 is on order. I shoot Leica M, and the rendering is very close to that quality. Never thought that would be possible. I do wish they were smaller and lighter, but I get it.
Yeah! They are definitely a chunky lens, but the look and rendering is money! The Leica M is solid, haha I can only image how big the combo looks for you.
@@PiedmontCommunityChurch 🤔 when looking at the lens I was thinking, “that’s a big boy!” Big goes can be totally alright though. Although yesterday was speaking with my professional photographer dear friend, looking at her MRI report. Let’s just say big heavy lens all day, day in day out is not for the faith of heart. One’s body or more might take a 🥊. I do like how they rigged out the Sony’s FX3 for the movie 🍿 was it the “Creator,” or something like that.
@@garfieldmtify , all great points! I've got Arles paired with the R5C in a CineBack with small rig battery. It's heavy, alright, but handheld is manageable when tucking it into yourself and rolling that way. Tripod is always nearby.
@ I got you! Just don’t want the weight Holmes. 2nd, 3rd generation my guess will be lighter, smaller and better. Extremely rear me grabbing anything 1st generation what about you? Maybe you buy those lens after 3 months eh!?
We used them on a music video recently and they made the talent and everything look great, so we were very happy with them. We only had access to the A set but we used the 25, 35, 50 mostly and then the 75 maybe twice. The 100 was a bit tight for what we were doing. The B set looks very intriguing , especially as they have more wides, we would have loved access to a 21 or maybe 14 and then cropping back in a bit. I think I'd probably have to get a mix if anything.
This makes you wonder, why the Supreme Primes cost $192,000. I know that they are overall nicer lenses but are they that much nicer? I feel like ‘price hiking’ is a real thing. Great video as always bro.
@@jean-philippegrignom6479 the Nisi look great too! We haven’t had a chance to test them yet, but hopefully down the line we’ll be able to test some other lenses in the market like nisi or blazars. So many lens options out there right now!
i have the same doubt ! they lean on the same side of being a clean kit, but the nisi are half the price and much smaller, while not being that darker. Since you will be most likely be using at 2.8 forwards (on ff) I think it's a nice competition and comparison would be awesome ! I have a couple friends that bought the Arles and others have the NiSi already, i'll see if i can compare them as well or at least get some footage. I have a contax zeiss set (which i absolutely love) but i need a more reliable kit for the bigger productions i'm getting so this might be an option. But on the other hand, them being cheap, It also means it will be cheaper to rent so i'll have to test them out to see if it's worth it
You mention the EF to PL adapter. Do you know if this series works on Canon C300 Mark III with that adapter? The $1500 Canon adapter is a bit out of reach. Thanks for a thoughtful review!
If there's no flange distance problem, it should probably be okay. But best to try it out, unfortunately we don't shoot Canon so couldn't test it, but it should probably be fine! (sorry we can't give a definitive answer)
I do own some Arles primes, and my own opinion on these - extremely capable for the price, but still rather far away from Arri UP or Cooke lenses in terms of image quality, and build quality. When anyone says that those things are good build quality - I wonder how many of those actually dug into the lens. To understand the build quality of a cinema lens one has to understand what's under the cover. Judging the anodizing quality is rather silly statement of mechanical operation quality. I haven't dug into the Arles, but soon I will - to change the ft scale to a meter one (besides anyone has found a manual from DZO on this subject? They claim it, but no manual exists), then will see how much of a surprise it will be. Speaking of their previous lenses - Vespids, they aren't good inside at all, have some really easy to crack parts inside (like the iris ring parts), so I suppose this ones will have something similar. Also, the glass itself - the look of those is a tad weird. It's not clean, like a lot of people are saying. Yes, they have less abberations than Vespids do, but Arles still have some of those and at 1.4 they are loosing a lot of contrast. They are sharp, but not edge to edge sharp, have some distortions, and from what I see in this video - I'm not gonna change my Laowa 12mm to 14mm Arles. Out of focus rendition of this one is like lens has lost it's calibration or a piece of glass somewhere in the lens isn't in its proper position. Overall it's the only set of lenses under 3k per lens that I was eager to buy, but they have their grain of salt, especially coming from a Arri UP or Cooke S4i user experience. I'm curious to compare those to Sony SCL (v2) set of lenses, because they have a pretty similar price tag per lens.
@@timdanyo898 hard to say! We like clinical and have a bit of space for post. But it depends on the look you’re going for the project! Def worth renting if you can before making the jump. We want to try Athena’s before we say to get one or the other.
Not really a secret. Does it come with Pl and EF or E mounts? Talked a little too fast to understand... And I'm not seeing any info on the product page saying it's included with the lens - is it perhaps sold separately?
Thanks for the feedback Michael! The demo set that was sent to us came with EF mounts, but looking on our local websites for Arles primes comes with this message (Note: All Arles lenses are in PL mounts. Additional EF mounts are available to purchase.) Sorry if that was confusing through the video. Appreciate your watching.
Yep and it's clear these are on the same build quality level as Zeiss Supreme Prime and Cooke S8i Lenses when you shoot wide open it's still tac sharp. That's a dead give away that there the next level 😊
The lenses are so inconsistent. The different focal length do not have the same colours and sharpness. What is the point in a prime kit not delivering what they should do ?
@@checkadam42 Ahhh okay, I think i was more turned off that the measurements are different. Do you know what the focal lengths would be on a super 35 sensor for these ones?
Its Arle. The "s" is muted, like in the French city. If you want to get anal with it : pronounce the A like in Halogen, without the H. And the "rle" like the "rl" in pearl ;)
Everything was going well until I saw “Raptors,” 😢 😡 well I still watched your entire video from start to finish (algorithm likes that and you too:) just kidding about the Raptors joke. Nice video. Want A anamorphic or cinematic AF lens. I heard anamorphic AF lens is coming in December.
Agreed! Sorry if we weren't super clear about it all, but we were really putting these up against lenses that we use often, the Supreme prime. That's the main comparison, it's relative to that. I understand these might not be the most affordable lens for most. Appreciate the feedback
lol I promise they rippin all yall off with these "cine" lens 😅. the normal consumer cant even tell the difference when they are watching a show. you cld have a real production staff/ colorist shoot with a photo lens and they never notice.
@@aytothemm.1035 I guess you can say that about anything though. Yes a colourist can do amazing things, but there is still lens characteristics and looks to build. Might as well shoot everything on a Canon 15-35 or something than haha
@@TenfoldProduction i would call the Irix or Xeens Budget, but 3k per prime seems pretty midrange for me, more in the region of zeiss cps or canon cn, but i dont think anyone would call them budget. if you only work with leica summiluxes or zeiss supremes on set i guess it would be more "budget friendly" but most of people dont
Actually solid points here! Sometimes we fall for the trap of what we're comparing too, and to the general audience, this is probably a bit out of range as budget (can almost buy an fx3 at this price haha). In comparison to what we think the lens performs and looks like (the Supreme primes), we do think it's a pretty budget version of that (if that makes sense). And we appreciate the open convo without insulting us haha, it means alot!
Oh. Don’t misunderstand. I didn’t watch. I commented on the title and the fact you didn’t do any research in advance to see how late you were to the party.
Appreciate the feedback! Hope you get a chance to try these out for yourself. We barely ever shoot under T2.0, that's just our style and how we shoot. Even Arri's Signature primes don't go down past 1.8, it's not always about shooting open apertures.
@@TenfoldProduction He has a fair point. If you offer a lens wide open, you should be able to deliver it. Otherwise, save some cost and weight and do not let it start at 1.2 ...
You’re doing an amazing job, and it’s clear you know what you’re doing. Don’t worry about those who complain that every ‘influencer’ or wannabe has already talked about these lenses. You’re an experienced professional working in the industry, so your opinion holds real value. Beginners might not always recognize that, especially with the way content is often catered to them. As a professional filmmaker myself, I consider you one of the few real filmmakers I actually watch and learn from. I’ve been watching your videos for a long time now. Had to come out and say this.
Thank you for your kind words Joao. Means a lot coming from another professional in the community .
I had to make a comment after reading some terrible comments on here. I think Tenfold is prob the only legit "youtuber" /DOP on this platform that makes good shit. High quality productions with bts on every shoot. Every other youtuber is just a content creator tying to make it look like they get free stuff cuz they are a "filmmaker". Keep up the good work bro!
Appreciate you always Peter!
Love your work. Ordered 4 of these (21|35|50|75) and can't wait to shoot on them. Happy to see this video after ordering!
Just ordered them. ❤ I got 2 from the B kit. 21mm,40mm and the 75mm from the A kit.
Yes! Amazing set combo, we’d get the 14, 21, 40, and 75-100 all are solid
Every TH-camr has a video out on these...i think your statement of no one knows is very incorrect thanks to the efforts of DZOfilm sending these for review to every popular gear reviewer under the sun.
Appreciate the feedback! We rarely do reviews, and when we do, we try to actually shoot them in the field and not just simple tests. We appreciate you watching though, we're always trying to improve and make videos that are fun and accurate to the products.
@@TenfoldProduction Yall are one of the rare channels actually working on the professional commercial level and still putting out quality content. Thank you for doing these types of videos.
@ thanks Man! Appreciate you
@@SPNCEmusicI just subscribed after reading your comment 🙏
There’s a difference between random TH-camrs and actual filmmakers/ commercial production companies. Every TH-camr use the term filmmaker or etc and don’t actually make anything. This channel is not that! They’re legit
Just received the 35. It's (almost) everything I need, but of course, the 75 is on order. I shoot Leica M, and the rendering is very close to that quality. Never thought that would be possible. I do wish they were smaller and lighter, but I get it.
Yeah! They are definitely a chunky lens, but the look and rendering is money! The Leica M is solid, haha I can only image how big the combo looks for you.
@@PiedmontCommunityChurch 🤔 when looking at the lens I was thinking, “that’s a big boy!” Big goes can be totally alright though. Although yesterday was speaking with my professional photographer dear friend, looking at her MRI report. Let’s just say big heavy lens all day, day in day out is not for the faith of heart. One’s body or more might take a 🥊. I do like how they rigged out the Sony’s FX3 for the movie 🍿 was it the “Creator,” or something like that.
@@garfieldmtify , all great points! I've got Arles paired with the R5C in a CineBack with small rig battery. It's heavy, alright, but handheld is manageable when tucking it into yourself and rolling that way. Tripod is always nearby.
@ I got you! Just don’t want the weight Holmes. 2nd, 3rd generation my guess will be lighter, smaller and better. Extremely rear me grabbing anything 1st generation what about you? Maybe you buy those lens after 3 months eh!?
these lenses are incredible been rocking them on commercials as well with the mini lf and they punch way above their weight class
Yessir! That's a money combo, def hasn't let us down yet.
Great content as usual! Love the Arles! Got the 25, 40 and 75.
@@ancilm awesome! Nice set of lenses you got there
I also love the look from this lens too. It's so beautitull in a budget.
Absolutely!
Killing it brother!
Appreciate you!
We used them on a music video recently and they made the talent and everything look great, so we were very happy with them. We only had access to the A set but we used the 25, 35, 50 mostly and then the 75 maybe twice. The 100 was a bit tight for what we were doing. The B set looks very intriguing , especially as they have more wides, we would have loved access to a 21 or maybe 14 and then cropping back in a bit. I think I'd probably have to get a mix if anything.
Nice! That’s a solid set. Big fan of these and will continue using them in the future. The B set is awesome, excited for you to test them.
This makes you wonder, why the Supreme Primes cost $192,000. I know that they are overall nicer lenses but are they that much nicer? I feel like ‘price hiking’ is a real thing. Great video as always bro.
I got a set. They are phenomenal.
Nice! Which ones are your favourite?
Would love a set of these. Currently rocking the Catta Zooms. Those have been great for our production.
They would def blend nicely with some Catta's (also a fun lens). Different style of shooting, but both solid!
How much better than the nisi are they?
Are they worth the price difference?
@@jean-philippegrignom6479 the Nisi look great too! We haven’t had a chance to test them yet, but hopefully down the line we’ll be able to test some other lenses in the market like nisi or blazars. So many lens options out there right now!
i have the same doubt ! they lean on the same side of being a clean kit, but the nisi are half the price and much smaller, while not being that darker. Since you will be most likely be using at 2.8 forwards (on ff) I think it's a nice competition and comparison would be awesome ! I have a couple friends that bought the Arles and others have the NiSi already, i'll see if i can compare them as well or at least get some footage.
I have a contax zeiss set (which i absolutely love) but i need a more reliable kit for the bigger productions i'm getting so this might be an option. But on the other hand, them being cheap, It also means it will be cheaper to rent so i'll have to test them out to see if it's worth it
You mention the EF to PL adapter. Do you know if this series works on Canon C300 Mark III with that adapter? The $1500 Canon adapter is a bit out of reach. Thanks for a thoughtful review!
If there's no flange distance problem, it should probably be okay. But best to try it out, unfortunately we don't shoot Canon so couldn't test it, but it should probably be fine! (sorry we can't give a definitive answer)
Great video
Thanks!
I agree i got the A set an i Love them !!
@@emmanuelnkwocha1275 nice! What’s your favourite focal length so far
I do own some Arles primes, and my own opinion on these - extremely capable for the price, but still rather far away from Arri UP or Cooke lenses in terms of image quality, and build quality. When anyone says that those things are good build quality - I wonder how many of those actually dug into the lens. To understand the build quality of a cinema lens one has to understand what's under the cover. Judging the anodizing quality is rather silly statement of mechanical operation quality. I haven't dug into the Arles, but soon I will - to change the ft scale to a meter one (besides anyone has found a manual from DZO on this subject? They claim it, but no manual exists), then will see how much of a surprise it will be. Speaking of their previous lenses - Vespids, they aren't good inside at all, have some really easy to crack parts inside (like the iris ring parts), so I suppose this ones will have something similar. Also, the glass itself - the look of those is a tad weird. It's not clean, like a lot of people are saying. Yes, they have less abberations than Vespids do, but Arles still have some of those and at 1.4 they are loosing a lot of contrast. They are sharp, but not edge to edge sharp, have some distortions, and from what I see in this video - I'm not gonna change my Laowa 12mm to 14mm Arles. Out of focus rendition of this one is like lens has lost it's calibration or a piece of glass somewhere in the lens isn't in its proper position. Overall it's the only set of lenses under 3k per lens that I was eager to buy, but they have their grain of salt, especially coming from a Arri UP or Cooke S4i user experience. I'm curious to compare those to Sony SCL (v2) set of lenses, because they have a pretty similar price tag per lens.
NiSi Athenas or jump up to this? Clinical with post room or a look out of the box. Hmmm..
@@timdanyo898 hard to say! We like clinical and have a bit of space for post. But it depends on the look you’re going for the project! Def worth renting if you can before making the jump. We want to try Athena’s before we say to get one or the other.
@ that would be cool to test the clean Athenas and apply post looks compared with the Arles and other actual lens looks.
Not really a secret.
Does it come with Pl and EF or E mounts? Talked a little too fast to understand... And I'm not seeing any info on the product page saying it's included with the lens - is it perhaps sold separately?
Thanks for the feedback Michael! The demo set that was sent to us came with EF mounts, but looking on our local websites for Arles primes comes with this message (Note: All Arles lenses are in PL mounts. Additional EF mounts are available to purchase.)
Sorry if that was confusing through the video. Appreciate your watching.
@TenfoldProduction Okay, gotcha 🤙
Just bought them last week.
Nice! Let me know how you like them!
These lenses are basically just Cooke s8i + Zeiss Supreme Prime =
Arles Prime
@@tecno8335 I def see it! Def not a bad combo to have haha.
Yep and it's clear these are on the same build quality level as Zeiss Supreme Prime and Cooke S8i Lenses when you shoot wide open it's still tac sharp. That's a dead give away that there the next level 😊
7:25 this!!!
Ill buy one when DZO weather seals their lenses
Just glue them into the camera mount and glue up the gaps on the focus and aperture rings, et voila, nothing will get in
@@rickskellig4652 elmers glue? lol
The lenses are so inconsistent. The different focal length do not have the same colours and sharpness. What is the point in a prime kit not delivering what they should do ?
If they can come out with a Super 35 format lens version, i'll buy it
Any lens with Full Frame coverage will also cover S35.
@@checkadam42 Ahhh okay, I think i was more turned off that the measurements are different. Do you know what the focal lengths would be on a super 35 sensor for these ones?
The age old question: is it Ar-rell or or Ar-less
Unfortunately, I don’t think we’ll ever know. Haha thanks for watching!
Its Arle. The "s" is muted, like in the French city. If you want to get anal with it : pronounce the A like in Halogen, without the H. And the "rle" like the "rl" in pearl ;)
Everything was going well until I saw “Raptors,” 😢 😡 well I still watched your entire video from start to finish (algorithm likes that and you too:) just kidding about the Raptors joke. Nice video. Want A anamorphic or cinematic AF lens. I heard anamorphic AF lens is coming in December.
Haha, appreciate you watching. 😂🙏
10k for lenses is not budget for most
Agreed! Sorry if we weren't super clear about it all, but we were really putting these up against lenses that we use often, the Supreme prime. That's the main comparison, it's relative to that. I understand these might not be the most affordable lens for most. Appreciate the feedback
DZO does have the even more budget Vespids set.
@@frankfeng2701 absolutely! We own a set of Vespids and they match pretty well too!
I see the word budget being over used now days $2100 is not budget I consider budget around $500 for lenses
500 is not budget but trash mate when it comes to cine lenses.
lol I promise they rippin all yall off with these "cine" lens 😅. the normal consumer cant even tell the difference when they are watching a show. you cld have a real production staff/ colorist shoot with a photo lens and they never notice.
@@aytothemm.1035 I guess you can say that about anything though. Yes a colourist can do amazing things, but there is still lens characteristics and looks to build. Might as well shoot everything on a Canon 15-35 or something than haha
budget you say
It's all relative. We understand it's not the cheapest in the world, but in comparison to what we use on set, these are actually somewhat affordable.
@@TenfoldProduction i would call the Irix or Xeens Budget, but 3k per prime seems pretty midrange for me, more in the region of zeiss cps or canon cn, but i dont think anyone would call them budget. if you only work with leica summiluxes or zeiss supremes on set i guess it would be more "budget friendly" but most of people dont
Actually solid points here! Sometimes we fall for the trap of what we're comparing too, and to the general audience, this is probably a bit out of range as budget (can almost buy an fx3 at this price haha). In comparison to what we think the lens performs and looks like (the Supreme primes), we do think it's a pretty budget version of that (if that makes sense). And we appreciate the open convo without insulting us haha, it means alot!
budget ?? ? ? ?? ?
Is this a joke. Every influencer has posted about these. The difference is they did it months ago. Sounds like YOU'RE the only one who didn't know.
Appreciate the feedback man! Been busy putting these through their paces. Thanks for watching!
Oh. Don’t misunderstand. I didn’t watch. I commented on the title and the fact you didn’t do any research in advance to see how late you were to the party.
@@frontfoot1035 Seek professional help.
@@frontfoot1035he’s an actual working professional. Go back to watching your wannabe filmmakers
@@jw0w757😂😂😂😂😂😂. You wouldn’t know a real filmmaker if they sat on your face
OVERrated, not usable at 1.4 not even 1.2. Nice infomercial but no thanks. "imago quality is only HALF of the story"?????? you high??? :D lol joker
Appreciate the feedback! Hope you get a chance to try these out for yourself.
We barely ever shoot under T2.0, that's just our style and how we shoot.
Even Arri's Signature primes don't go down past 1.8, it's not always about shooting open apertures.
@@TenfoldProduction He has a fair point. If you offer a lens wide open, you should be able to deliver it. Otherwise, save some cost and weight and do not let it start at 1.2 ...