Kitchen Blades: How Much Better is Elastic Ceramic Vs Normal Ceramic [Rahven vs Kyocera]
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I would love to see a video of you sharpening the elastic ceramic. I remember you saying it is actually sharpenable.
Yes it is, I will make a tutorial soon - would be cool to see Pete make one too!
@@kknives_switzerland I'm interested too... just ordered one of your knives :tu:
@@kknives_switzerland I'll make sure to watch!
@@etherealicer Thank you!!
Always great to see you in a new post. ATB !
Thanks for the tests and content! I will have to try that method out finally coarse and fine
I'm a sisal grower and ditto rope maker..... Not too keen on those feeble edges, whereas some elastic ceramicity is a long overdue happenstance..... 😉
Your efforts is much appreciated 😏
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always interesting thanks Pete
I honestly don't think I've ever watched a video of Pete's that I didn't like. Honest and earnest are the first two words that spring to mind.
I put the dual grit edge on a Spyderco ZCut in BD1n that is our primary kitchen utility knife and it's definitely an improvement over the fine edge that I normally use.
Hey Pete, you want to send me the other half of your cutting board so I can recreate your tests in the U.S. to make sure the coriolis effect doesn't effect your results?
No way man... That things got sentimental value!
@@dermotmcgreevy5220 So I've seen a lot of his vids but at some point the cutting board got smaller by half I didn't catch what happened. Did it just break or did he make it smaller for convenience?
@@SRVandDtrouble it straight up broke in one video( iirc it was one featuring the benchmade puuko)
You can keep all your fancy schmancy electric ceramic doo dads, all I need is the Buck 110™ my grandaddy gave me when I was -4 weeks- 8 minutes old!!! No better knife than the Buck 110™!!!
But still not as good as *SURGICAL STAINLESS STEEL*!!🤣
The question is: can the Buck 110 be improved even further? What about Buck 110 with dual grit sharpening?!
@@Owieczkin it comes with all the grit you need pre-installed!
Lol the original EDC was a Case slip joint and if you're going hunting you take the ol Buck 110. But things move forward and having a knife that stays sharp is not a bad thing.
@@SRVandDtrouble How about a Case with a Kase ceramic blade? 😂 Mind=blown🤣
Welcome to twisted sisal, where we get blisters from cut tests.
Nice. Thanks. FYI, Ceramic blades can be sharpened with aluminum oxide stones. You can read about it at The Science of Sharp. The stone doesn’t have to be a harder material than the blade. There are many types of wear, which is what removes material from an edge. :)
Unfortunately doesn't work on these - the only way is a squishy material as base and diamond lapping films on top with a little drop of oil. Will make a tutorial.
telling me its crazy going to dinner with a scalpel in your hand.
Did you get the MT40 Spyderco HIC Mule Team? Would love to see a review.
Pete, I pre-ordered my Kase. Thanks for the heads-up.
Thank you🙏🏻
Do you think the wood cutting board may be contributing significantly to reducing edge retention? If you were cutting on a thick rubber mat or some other more “edge protective” surface, how many more cuts would a knife be able to retain its edge through?
You ever get splinters from the small pieces of sisal everywhere?
What ever happened to the new knife lab in the crypt? I watched the moisture removal series with great interest.
still working on some underfloor venting, not quite nice enough to film there regularly yet unfortunately
@@CedricAda AL-YOU-MINN-EEEUM
12C27Mod is between 0.52% to 0.55% carbon so technically it could be a high carbon stainless steel by definition.
Officially anything over 0.55% and 13% chromium by weight is in the high carbon stainless steel class, by US standards.
However, I also wouldn't consider it high carbon stainless steel even though technically it is👍.
I feel they should change the high carbon stainless steel standard to anything over 0.75% carbon and 13% chromium by weight.
I almost pulled the trigger on the Kase pre-order but I choose to regret it later as with all my choices.
You can still do it ;) And it is "Kasé"😇
Not Käse?
@@kknives_switzerland Corrected thanks.
@@Owieczkin Nope, allthough fitting for Switzerland 😄
@@SRVandDtrouble That's nice of you, haha. There is the American manufacturer "Case", so I always try to make sure that people use the "K", haha. Otherwise, it gets confusing lol.
Great test, thanks for the hard work. As for the Rahven knives though, I wish they had nicer handles, that shiny plastic is very cheap looking. How about some micarta Rahven?
I am working on a premium version. First goal is the mass market, where the main focus is functionality. I hope to soon have wa handled ones online.
@@kknives_switzerland Awesome, I have cash waiting!
@@kknives_switzerland don’t worry I very highly prefer the plastic version as it makes the knife as light as possible which is adding to the performance of the knife. It’s nice when a knife looks decorative but after a while it gets old and you just want a knife that works instead of a heavy knife that looks pretty.
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Where to buy the elastic ceramic knives?
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what if we dual grit sharpen the elastic ceramic knife? :)
A strip of cereal box cardboard, laced with diamond abrasive, in the WorkSharp belt sharpener.
That might be a good method of sharpening ceramic.
Could work, but what I recommend is a squishy material (like box foam) with diamond lapping film on it and a few drops of oil.
there is a sharpening system that uses a paper wheel that puts an incredible edge on knives. You add compound to the wheel iirc. I have also seen Gough knives where he uses a plywood wheel to do the same thing. I saw the paper wheel on wranglerstars channel.
I placed an order with Rahven a while back but they have gone dark. Any clues what’s going on?
This knife available yet?
But can you baton with it?
I could baton with a peice of glass if I wanted to.
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Thanks for posting the useful information. For a pocket knife the most important factor for me is a moderate replacement cost. After more than fifty years of carrying pocket knives I know that I will eventually lose it. That is due to Murphy's law and cannot be avoided. Greater edge retention is usually much more expensive but I still I do want something C&A 40 or better. In this video the ceramic blade failed early and the test should have ended there gut it does not matter since I would never buy that type of knife. The elastic ceramic sounds interesting but I would like to know if you have actually sharpened the elastic ceramic blade and got a good the result. Ceramic knives are notorious for chipping while being sharpened.
Sharpening is very easy on this one, IF one keeps two or three things in mind, I briefly touched on the subject in the newest video on my channel. I will make a full sharpening tutorial though. Long story short is that in order to get a sharp edge, you have to use diamond lapping films with a few drops of oil on a squishy backing and then perform a stropping motion. If you want to fix a chip in the blade, you can do so with diamond stones, but diamond stones won't give you a good edge. So always finish on diamond lapping films with oil as lubricant on a squishy backing. Again, some info in the latest video of mine and the dedicated sharpening video is to come!👍🏻
@@kknives_switzerland Thanks for posting the informative videos. It is good to see a ceramic blade that can flex and survive small shocks.
@@SuperMurrayb Even medium shocks, though of course that all depends on what you consider "medium" or "heavy". I wouldn't baton with it, but that's not what should be done with ANY chef knife I think...
@@SuperMurrayb it’s actually really funny because I completely agree with you I have around a $6000 collection of knives some knives even 500 bucks and my daily carry is a Kershaw chill $20 knife because I know I will lose it eventually. I daily carried a BM carbon fiber Nakamura 484-1 and lost it after 2 weeks, never again.
I wonder how these knives would hold up to some abusive testing. Against something... Rough.
I have noticed a serious lack of talking abusive test materials in the last few videos.
Check out the newest video on my channel, "abuse testing the elastic ceramic"👍🏻
Phirst
Stop being so firsty
Henlo
@@csquared4538 my first for sisal cannot be quenched. It's not a knife :)
Congratulations Sir.
@@stevenrobertson6656 thank you, I'm always glad to bump the comments count in the most glorious way. That's why sometimes I crack some daddy jokes xD
Don't be a pansy. Save the environment and get rid of the paper. Cut the twisted sister rope till it stops cutting twisted sister rope. You owe it to yourself and it would be metal as hell. 😘