True, my first kicks were more hardcore ones... even though i learned it almost 9 years ago.. i didnt made music for 7 years... so, i remember alot, but i have to relearn alot aswell..
There's actually a plugin called Rbass Waves, it allows you to massively boost the low end by adding extra harmonics, boosting the low end with EQ won't make much difference.
Good tutorial to understand the basics of the early Hardstyle kick,but it stills needing more process,specially for the modern kicks,but a faster way that you can make a good one from this tutorial its just adding a new big sub bass layer with a big boost on the 3rd harmonic and a normal house kick to make the punch even so much better Also play with the EQ points using some crazy automations to make more movement
I had NO idea there was this much detail involved in Hardstyles.. me, a basic producer who can barely use FL studio, thought i was going to start making hardstyle this morning, HA not a chance. The Low end EQ trick switching to Linear, i've been trying to figure that out for ages. these are awesome videos
Damn, this tutorial has been so helpful to me, to understand the fundamentals of making a hardstyle kick. Really a great and easy to follow :). Looking forward to more hardstyle tutorial from you! Cheers!
Awesome video! Just one thing to mention would be that IMO most of the viewers here, are beginners and so am I. That means that I dont have the budget for Thrash2 and fabfilter-stuff (its on my list to buy but holy where to get all this money :X). I tried to replicate everything with the stuff I own, but its quite hard. Maybe you could try to do things like this without paid plugins or give advices how to replicate it with the stock or free things. My kick now is not sounding as clean and "real" as yours, but the rough and "bit"-sounding one is quite working for my braindead things xD In general, this video solved loads of problems for me. Thank you!
Muchas gracias por tu video! Apenas estoy empezando a utilizar FL Studio y estoy intentando componer algo de hardstyle, pero el kick no me queda como el tuyo :( No pense que iba a ser tan complicado! Voy a tratar de crearlo nuevamente, pero me hace falta aprender a utilizar el EQ (no tengo el que usas tu, estoy usando el de FL). Saludos desde Italia!
@@wildcrowmusic Tienes razon, de hecho tengo pensado enfocarme màs en eso. Anoche me desvele hasta la una de la manana para terminar el kick y salio mucho mejor que en los primeros 2 intentos. Pero sì, seguire tu consejo y usare los samples :)
I would love to see a tutorial like that for some oldschool hardware gear. I got a general idea how to do it, and i'm able to get satisfying results in Reason or VA VST, but i'd love to be able to create Hardstyle/Hardcore kick on rather oldschool gear like Roland SH-32, MC-505, Yamaha QS300. The FX options on these machines are super-limited, so i can layer a kick with a tone for the tail, and i can still add two more voices, but then i have to pick either EQ or Distortion. Can't use both, which sucks. I have no clue why parametric EQ on 505 and QS300 was either/or option only. I know i'd get better results in a DAW, but my goal here is to operate in a dawless setup. So, i'm able to create hardcore kick that sounds exactly like something out of earlier Thunderdomes, i can even tune it, but it's still not exactly what i'm after. I was experimenting with various types of SQUARE wave for the drum, trying to do it the analogue way from scratch, but there's always something missing. I love the old analogue sound. SH32 is amazing VA with an absolutely demented controls/MC505 is a classic and i got QS300 mainly for the sequencer, 16 tracks and the ability to control other gear from it. But AWM2 isn't bad synthesis either. I know that these machines are more than 20yrs old, but they can do a lot even today, unless i wanted to make psy-trance, which badly needs FM, which these machines do not have.
@@wildcrowmusic Yeah no problem whatsoever. I'm occasionally posting this question/comment in various Hardstyle oriented groups, hoping to find someone who'd be willing to talk me through this or show me his/her results. I totally understand the concept, i'm just missing some element that would tie it all together. So i'm searching for someone who already done it on one of the hardware machines i mentioned, wanting to take a look at how he's done it, and learn something in the process. I definitely created some crazy bassdrums, but they're either really oldschool sounding, or they don't go well with the detuned supersaws i like to use for the leads. And i refuse to believe that i can't get great results on this old gear. It's definitely doable, i'm just missing something.
Hi, what would you add as low end (for the bass Hit of the drum)? Just a regular low kick underlining the sub frequencies or a bass? Also how can you remove that clicking sound/pitch clearly hearable? Thanks 😊
Hopefully this question hasn't been asked before! When i use Kick samples i find that the kick seems to shorten when taking it up a few notes. Basically, it sounds like it's being cut so in my song the kick sounds great, goes up from say a C to an E and then sounds like it's got no reverb etc. I wondered if this is something you know of and can help out with? Your kicks always sound so clean!
Two years late, but in FL there is an option in the sample settings called 'Time stretching' - if you set that to mode 'Stretch' then FL will force the sample to be the same length at different pitches. However the problem I'm having now is that my EQ is always at the same frequency so that the higher pitched kicks actually sound longer ;-; if anyone knows how to fix that lmk (edit: this last part is fixed by rendering the kick which i also realised happens in this video)
Well, its definetly not enough to be used in a song, but its a good start. I would really recomend trying using some really short reverb before the distortion. It really helps to get more interesting character. Also, it may be more comfortable to split the tail into two layers. One for the bass and the other for the high end. That way you can get powerfull bass and also nice crunchy high end with overall more clean sound. Also, really nice edit of the video!
@@wildcrowmusic well, it depends a lot on your technique, but I have many times some problems when not splitting the tail. When I want more of that high crunch it starts to lose the bass, and when I boost the bass, the higher freqs disappear. But if you are comfortable doing it the way u do it, there's no need to change it.
Respect. As a producer, hardstyle kicks are the hardest to learn.
Definetly!
True, my first kicks were more hardcore ones... even though i learned it almost 9 years ago.. i didnt made music for 7 years... so, i remember alot, but i have to relearn alot aswell..
keep in mind that u can always use the kick u made as a template for a newer kick, if youre not satisfied with it. Great video as always.
Exactly!
I love this. As a "noob" hardstyle producer i am having loads of trouble with learning kicks! Going to try to do one from scratch now!
damn! never knew how much work it was behind a hardstyle kick. thanks
My man Eric finally Finally finished editing this video 😂
It took 1 century 😂😂
@@wildcrowmusic This video was brought to you by 1 Eternity later 😂
There's actually a plugin called Rbass Waves, it allows you to massively boost the low end by adding extra harmonics, boosting the low end with EQ won't make much difference.
Good tutorial to understand the basics of the early Hardstyle kick,but it stills needing more process,specially for the modern kicks,but a faster way that you can make a good one from this tutorial its just adding a new big sub bass layer with a big boost on the 3rd harmonic and a normal house kick to make the punch even so much better
Also play with the EQ points using some crazy automations to make more movement
Thanks for the tips!
Thanks for the shoutout bro, glad to have helped! And hyped for what's coming next hehehe
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I’m 16 and just started producing hardstyle so this is perfect timing🐐🤝
Hope it helps you!
I started producing when i was 9
@@affirmednose9450 damn I was a bit behind u then😅
And how old are you now?
@@wildcrowmusic 13
Honestly, I never rly liked hardstyle, but your videos motivated me to try it out, thanks man.
😁😁 happy to read that!
Eric: MAKE a HARDSTYLE KICK from SCRATCH
Also Eric: grab a better tok from his sample pack
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I had NO idea there was this much detail involved in Hardstyles.. me, a basic producer who can barely use FL studio, thought i was going to start making hardstyle this morning, HA not a chance. The Low end EQ trick switching to Linear, i've been trying to figure that out for ages. these are awesome videos
If you are just starting, just use kick samples
Damn, this tutorial has been so helpful to me, to understand the fundamentals of making a hardstyle kick. Really a great and easy to follow :). Looking forward to more hardstyle tutorial from you! Cheers!
Thaaanks!
for sub bass, you can also just add an extra bass. maybe an 808 bass or whatever
thank you so much! I finally made my first halfway decent hardstyle kick thanks to you
i agree
14:08 is that the noisecontroller's signature kick that you've dragged into your project?
"yo. What's up guys. Welcome to the video" in 1 sec
Thats a record
Now I'm trying to control myself and talk slower, there are videos where I say it faster 😂😂
Amazing video btw
WE NEED MORE EQ'S🤣
Very good tutorial and video Quality goes up👌🏻🔥🔥
Thanks!! 😁
Me: How many filters is this kick going to have?
Wildcrow: Yes
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the tok or the punch is usually around 1/4 of the beat long, 100ms for 150 bpm
Don't think like that, just use your ears
Awesome vid man! Rn for a hardstyle remix the main feedback I keep getting is that my kicks just aren't there. This helped a ton!
Thanks!
Been getting back into producing lately and this is perfect :) clear and straight to the point.
Hope it helps!
Great tutorial! Thanks a lot
i usually generate my own base kick and then distort it further
good tutorial, i think this will help a lot of people and i'm gonna try misstortion myself as well!!
Its by the same guy who made nimble kick. Very good plugin
Hope this video helped you!
@@zhivina1294 it‘s a girl actually
@@Joscy ahh. Okey
Awesome video! Just one thing to mention would be that IMO most of the viewers here, are beginners and so am I. That means that I dont have the budget for Thrash2 and fabfilter-stuff (its on my list to buy but holy where to get all this money :X). I tried to replicate everything with the stuff I own, but its quite hard. Maybe you could try to do things like this without paid plugins or give advices how to replicate it with the stock or free things.
My kick now is not sounding as clean and "real" as yours, but the rough and "bit"-sounding one is quite working for my braindead things xD
In general, this video solved loads of problems for me. Thank you!
You don't need those plugins. Now you have the knowledge, just use it with the plugins you own
Deserve a sub just for providing the download thanks!
Thanks you can use venem and d stortion. Those are free too.
I tried them and I prefer lot more misstortion
old-school reverse bass next?
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Muchas gracias por tu video! Apenas estoy empezando a utilizar FL Studio y estoy intentando componer algo de hardstyle, pero el kick no me queda como el tuyo :( No pense que iba a ser tan complicado!
Voy a tratar de crearlo nuevamente, pero me hace falta aprender a utilizar el EQ (no tengo el que usas tu, estoy usando el de FL). Saludos desde Italia!
Si estas empezando mi consejo es que uses kicks de sample packs, centrate en aprender a hacer buenas ideas y tener una mezcla limpia.
@@wildcrowmusic Tienes razon, de hecho tengo pensado enfocarme màs en eso. Anoche me desvele hasta la una de la manana para terminar el kick y salio mucho mejor que en los primeros 2 intentos. Pero sì, seguire tu consejo y usare los samples :)
I would love to see a tutorial like that for some oldschool hardware gear. I got a general idea how to do it, and i'm able to get satisfying results in Reason or VA VST, but i'd love to be able to create Hardstyle/Hardcore kick on rather oldschool gear like Roland SH-32, MC-505, Yamaha QS300. The FX options on these machines are super-limited, so i can layer a kick with a tone for the tail, and i can still add two more voices, but then i have to pick either EQ or Distortion. Can't use both, which sucks. I have no clue why parametric EQ on 505 and QS300 was either/or option only. I know i'd get better results in a DAW, but my goal here is to operate in a dawless setup. So, i'm able to create hardcore kick that sounds exactly like something out of earlier Thunderdomes, i can even tune it, but it's still not exactly what i'm after. I was experimenting with various types of SQUARE wave for the drum, trying to do it the analogue way from scratch, but there's always something missing. I love the old analogue sound. SH32 is amazing VA with an absolutely demented controls/MC505 is a classic and i got QS300 mainly for the sequencer, 16 tracks and the ability to control other gear from it. But AWM2 isn't bad synthesis either. I know that these machines are more than 20yrs old, but they can do a lot even today, unless i wanted to make psy-trance, which badly needs FM, which these machines do not have.
I'm not into hardware gear at all, sorry
@@wildcrowmusic Yeah no problem whatsoever. I'm occasionally posting this question/comment in various Hardstyle oriented groups, hoping to find someone who'd be willing to talk me through this or show me his/her results. I totally understand the concept, i'm just missing some element that would tie it all together. So i'm searching for someone who already done it on one of the hardware machines i mentioned, wanting to take a look at how he's done it, and learn something in the process. I definitely created some crazy bassdrums, but they're either really oldschool sounding, or they don't go well with the detuned supersaws i like to use for the leads. And i refuse to believe that i can't get great results on this old gear. It's definitely doable, i'm just missing something.
So good luck man 🤞🏼😊
@@wildcrowmusic Thanks! Great tut btw.
I realy want that flp haha! Good for learning! Nice turtorial!
Just a few more likes 👀
I think about to create 223 TH-cam Accounts just to press like :D u deserve a medal young sir
😂😂😂 not gonna regret it 👀
Hi, what would you add as low end (for the bass Hit of the drum)? Just a regular low kick underlining the sub frequencies or a bass? Also how can you remove that clicking sound/pitch clearly hearable? Thanks 😊
Hey wildcrow can you remake this video one more time but with a free plugin like parametic eq 2 im confuse on the eqing part
It should be basically the same,.the only thing different will probably be the controls and look, but I could be wrong as I don't use either eq
Hopefully this question hasn't been asked before! When i use Kick samples i find that the kick seems to shorten when taking it up a few notes. Basically, it sounds like it's being cut so in my song the kick sounds great, goes up from say a C to an E and then sounds like it's got no reverb etc. I wondered if this is something you know of and can help out with? Your kicks always sound so clean!
Of course, that's normal because to pitch a sound it gets stretched and to stretch it need to get shorter
Two years late, but in FL there is an option in the sample settings called 'Time stretching' - if you set that to mode 'Stretch' then FL will force the sample to be the same length at different pitches. However the problem I'm having now is that my EQ is always at the same frequency so that the higher pitched kicks actually sound longer ;-; if anyone knows how to fix that lmk (edit: this last part is fixed by rendering the kick which i also realised happens in this video)
Hey can you do some Basic Sound Design tutorials on Specific Plugin..??
I have some. I did one about basic Hardstyle synths, I did one recently about making a kick in serum...
Your videos are awesome and facts very good explained! By the way, I love your slang :)
Thanks!
Great video! This really helps! Thank you!
Happy to help :)
*More Hardstyle tutorials here 👉🏽* bit.ly/HardTutorials
This is what I needed. Thanks a lot. 🙏
Hope it helps you!
Love it ! 🥰❤
Thanks!!
Well, its definetly not enough to be used in a song, but its a good start. I would really recomend trying using some really short reverb before the distortion. It really helps to get more interesting character. Also, it may be more comfortable to split the tail into two layers. One for the bass and the other for the high end. That way you can get powerfull bass and also nice crunchy high end with overall more clean sound.
Also, really nice edit of the video!
Well, you can take this kick, add a bit of eqing and it's good to go imo
The problem of splitting the tail is that sometimes is hard to mix both parts
@@wildcrowmusic well, it depends a lot on your technique, but I have many times some problems when not splitting the tail. When I want more of that high crunch it starts to lose the bass, and when I boost the bass, the higher freqs disappear. But if you are comfortable doing it the way u do it, there's no need to change it.
can you give that 909 sample you are using on track 2?
Ouff....don't know where I have it
Thank you so much so helpful ❤️
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Wonderful❤
El hardstyle normal (no euphoric) es rawstyle?
Hmmmm buena pregunta 🤔 no sabria que decirte. Supongo que no porque sino se llamaria hardstyle sin mas. Pero claro, entonces que es el hard asecas? 🤔
I have one question, can we get the kick of our choice key by this method. I haven't stil tried it.
Yes, depends mainly in the original kick key, but sometimes depending on the processing it can vary
This whole time, I was trying to use serum and make it fully from scratch lol
You can make a tail bass in serum and layer it with the kick
what about how to make a good kick melody? do i just do what sounds good as long as im in key or does the kick have to follow say the bass line?
I recommend to follow the bassline, well, actually the kick is the bassline
@@wildcrowmusic okay i will try that thanks
This is a great start, you just forgot one crucial part, layering
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Come on guys. Lets get them 500 likes already
🙌🏼🙌🏼 let's get there!
nice video ! :)
Thanks!
Good Job 👍
Thanks!
Can I get the full track?
What track?
@@wildcrowmusic in the end of the Video ^^
Is my song Evolution
@@wildcrowmusic found it Tysm❤️
Spotify, Soundcloud, here in my youtube channel...
C'mon 20 more likes for the flp 🤩
Awesome
Thanks!
Fix the eq since some have stock eq
?
How do you pitch the kicks? So the first part plays the same note but then it plays the root note of the chord
I separate the attack and the tail and I only pitch the tail
@@wildcrowmusic ok thanks. How do you separate them lol? I havent watched the whole vid yet so idk if you showed it
I think I showed but basically cloning the kick and cutting
@@wildcrowmusic and then you put them on different mixer channels? Sorry lol I'm a noob when it comes to hardstyle kicks
No needed
La cola del kick hubiera quedado mejor así tipo sub bass que no sueno rasposo si no como los kicks de d-turb etc
Pero entonces no seria el tipico kick de hardstyle
Me parece que me saliste en tiktok hablado español
U must share the FLPs NOW! ♥ Hahah
I did right now :)
@@wildcrowmusic thank You!
It's almost 500 likes
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@@wildcrowmusic Plsss upload the FLP lñaksjfd ♥ Thanks for this tutorial, Greetings from ARGENTINA
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decent but I make better kicks already