@@RegieCollects Dude no matter who you are in this life you have 5-10 mins on a book over the course of a few days. I have done a really filthy book in two hours. But opinions are plenty.
We’ll have to agree to disagree but thanks for sharing your perspective. Edit: I would add that you illustrated to perfection the appropriateness of response. At the time of that recording I had 150 books at CGC. Using 8 mins of time this works out to 1,200 mins or 20 hours. To this point, I have more important competing priorities like moving across country, numerous house repair projects, a full time job, a growing TH-cam channel and two children under the age of 7. Again, I thank you for watching and commenting.
I keep coming right back here to your channel. You have the best advice. What I mean by that is, you not only share your opinions, but also your life tested experiences too. Thank you for content I can always rely on. Salute!
I appreciate that bro. I try to remember that we as collectors are not one dimensional. We have interests and passions outside of comics, why leave that at the door? When appropriate I like to blend that stuff together. Glad you enjoy the appropriate.
I sent a comic book to CCS, I didn't even know they send it to CGC for grading automatically after pressing! What a wonderful surprise. The CCS price is all inclusive also and includes the new CGC slab.
CCS doesn’t press without having the book graded. So a submission to CCS always results in grading. You will be charged twice. Once from CCS for clean/press and once from CGC for grading and encapsulation.
Great rationale and logic! At a glance, these things seem like common sense, but the experiential wisdom you apply to the subject, bring to light a few deeper details and aspects of the process that one may have not considered. I will never understand the dislikes on your videos, this is solid content
Thanks you bro. I try as best I can to infuse my videos with my actual experiences versus theories. Put another way, I make a couple of mistakes so that others can avoid those. LOL. P.S. For some strange reason my computer never shows thumbs down. It's sooooooooooo strange. :-)
I've had good enough results learning how to clean covers that I decided I'm just gonna buy a press myself. Might as well learn how to do that, too, & cut down on wait times & shipping damage risks even more 😆
Search TH-cam for my five part series on comic pressing. There is also a blog post on my website with links to the videos and resources that are needed for pressing. Good luck.
I've gotten some feedbacks from others on youtube stating CGC might not spend as much time to press & clean a book as independent 3rd party pressers would. In other word, CGC would rush their pressing and would do a half done job due to the large amount of books they'd receive. Can you please confirm if that's a true statement?
Excellent video and definitely things to consider. When using CCS for the first time using the standard tier, they held my books in the queue for the unholy turn time, but I was happy for the grades: one 7.5, three 7's, two 6.5's, a 5.5. two 4.5's and a 4. Not bad for books dating from 1965-1971. 6 of the books exceeded my expected grade, one was a match and 3 were lower. I reckon that's not bad for my first time.
Thanks for the info. I've got an ASM #50 that needs a pressing and I also want to get it graded. You may have given me the advise I was looking for and I thank you.
@@RegieCollects Yes, I'm a new member to CGC. I've made 2 submissions this past April so far with 7 books total. It does take them a while but they are now scheduled for grading. Best.
Great Info Video Regie I remember I was unboxing some comics & the Wife walked in unexpectedly & I had to quickly hid the the book by slipping it under my Seat Cushing's & giving it a quick Pressing.....but Seriously you have helped me with going ahead & using both services on one of my "Spidey's" Ron
My experience with CCS has been good. They pressed and cleaned 2 comics for me recently: an 8.0 bumped to a 9.0 and a 9.0 bumped to a 9.8 so I was very happy. If they would increase their efficiency (turn around time) without reducing quality of clean and press it would be great though. We live in an impatient "I want it now" world and so the wait game can be tough sometimes. In 1900 it took up to 10 years to build a home, but man what quality work they did. May be just showing my old age here. :)
Great reasons. Time especially. But now you can actually go with third party that will send your comics directly to CGC after they CLEAN and press. So the cleaning part of third party helps. Plus third parties give you some discount Great thinking as always Reggie.
Thanks for the info & your opinion. This is a pretty timely topic as I have been trying to decide on sending some books to a very well regarded presser. I like your thinking on many of your points. Mainly the one stop shop and decreasing the number of shipments that could cause damage. Do you use the quick press or do the full press with CCS (or does it depend on the book)? Great content!
It depends upon the book. Books that have lots of defects may benefit from a full press. A modern book with slight defects may only need a quick press. I have another video coming out this week that touches on this same topic. I'm telling a story here. :-)
It takes them over a year to get to press your books. Honestly, they did a poor job on mine. I had already sent several shipments to them to press and grade. The ones I cleaned and pressed came back at higher grades. I sent them books I thought were at least a 9.4 -- some books I got back were 8.5 and 9.0/9.2. Bottom line: Do it yourself, don't have CCS do it; it's wasted money!
I sent 3 books into CGC to get graded in August 13 and they were damaged in delivery to them, which I was informed that they received them with a corner crunch on the upper right hand side of my three books and wondered how well are they considering one was on a card stock cover and a black and white "sketch cover" ? I then told a CGC rep to have them pressed . Now im receiving a update of yesterday November 16th they are going to Encapsulation/Imaging. So how much further do I have to wait and why couldn't I have been provided a photo(s) of the damage to help me decide to continue or not to make me figure uut to press or not to fix my submission? Thanks
While I do agree with all your stated reasons for using CCS pressing service there are two reasons that I do not use them often. 1. You have no insight in the status of your CCS pressing order. Once the book gets sent over to the CCS side of the house, you have no idea what stage of the pressing service you order is undergoing. 2. Current CCS pressing services is running around 100+ days according to a customer service representative I spoke to about one of my pressing orders. So I am thinking 💭 okay it has been over 100 days already. Then she tells me no it has not been 100 BUSINESS DAYS. Now once she says this to me, it makes perfect sense that it would be business days and not days like I was thinking but now I realize that means 5 months for just the pressing service. That does not include the additional weeks for the actual grading of the book once it comes back from CCS to CCG. That is a long time to wait to say the least. In my case this was for an artist cover that was commissioned and I want the best possible grade, so it was worth the pressing charges to make sure I have the best possible chance at a CGC SS 9.8 grade. Just some thoughts to add to the conversation. Great video as always Reggie.
That’s an option. The downside in some cases is that they will use there own account which means that you don’t get the CGC discount nor do you have visibility into the status of the books at CGC. This requires you to ping the presser to get status updates. With that said, there are some pressers that will use your account so it’s important to determine that upfront.
Great video and thanks for the information. This will be very helpful. One item for consideration is that some 3rd party companies that press/dry clean comics will also submit them to CGC at a discount. Depending on the value of the comic this can offset some of the cost of the pressing and dry cleaning. I haven't had any personal experience but will be submitting several comics, some direct and some through a 3rd party. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again, I try not to miss any of these videos. Really gets me back into the mindset of a true collector.
Typically they are only giving you part of the discount that CGC actually gives you directly. You also miss out on the annual $150 grading credit by having your own account. And, by not having you own account you don’t know where your book is in the process without having to contact the 3rd party to ask.
Great video. One major issue is turn around time. Cgc has to tighten that up. No excuse for pressing and grading to take longer than 30 days. They need to hire more staffing
I don’t fast track. That to me is a waste of money. Generally I’m not in a rush but...we can both agree that turn around time can be improved but I do not want to pay more. I think grading and pressing is already expensive enough. But, I’m cheap. 😂😅
This is super helpful Regie. I think there’s definitely some positives. One of the problems that I have heard (and this has been more recent) is that the wait times for sending it to CCS and then taken over to CGC is extremely long. I’m planning on sending my first shipment over so I’m trying to gather as much info as I can before I make my decision how I do it. Appreciate the info!
So far, its taken 5 months total for me using CCS and then going to CGC, I've sent two shipments( first was 10 comics and my last submission was 15 comics)
Awesome video men last time I used cgc pressing services and took almost a half a year six months to get my books back so which one of those things if you're okay with waiting that's probably okay to do but if you're not okay with waiting and I definitely not recommended but that's just my opinion
You should do an updated video on this sets. CGC has had a lot of changes recently to their cleaning and pressing stuff and prices and things just to kind of give people sense of mind on what is happening with their books. Like what are they cleaning their pressing process? Maybe get some information from some people at CGCF kind of what they do cuz I know lots of people still have questions on like what are they actually doing when they clean and press your books just a thought
I've only used them one time and I was pleasantly surprised. An example, I had an Omega Men 3 hit a 9.8 when I thought it would hit a 9.4 at most. Had 4 out of 8 hit 9.8 after press, 2 9.6, and a couple I knew would be lower, but all above expectations!
Some thoughtful reasons shared here, as always. I actually use a third party presser, but it is because of all the same reasons you shared (local/cuts out shipping, very experienced, professional, etc.). I do know that not all third party pressers meet those standards though. Always good to educate the community on trustworthy options, appreciate the knowledge, Regie!
Boom. If I had a local guy that could get it done, I'd probably go that route as well. The only presser that is local, about 45 minutes aways, had a 6-8 backlog last I checked.
So when you select the “pressing” option through CGC/CCS does this include cleaning of the book before the actual pressing? Great video, very informative for new collectors!
@@RegieCollects Follow up question: In your opinion does the declared value (and in turn the tier in which you select for grading and pressing ie Economy, Standard etc) influence the potential grade at all?
Last year I sent in my hulk 181, which was slabbed at a CGC 5.5 for pressing as the book looked like it had some obvious pressable defects. It came back a 7.0 which is quite a nice bump for that book! I've had a couple of times I've sent in (already slabbed) books for CGC signing and included pressing, the grade stayed the same and, in one case, went down from a 9.6 to a 9.4. So the grade won't always improve, but I've had an overall positive experience with CCS pressing.
Good points! I'll offer a counterpoint, though: TIME! I've submitted books to CCS that arrived on 10/01/20 that STILL haven't made it to the CGC side for grading (that's more than 4 months). If you're trying to minimize your turnaround, it's worth considering!
My last submission was only two months but I got grading that was ultra conservative. My last time out, most of mine were 9.8. This time 8.5 to 9.6. Couldn’t get a 9.8 to save my life.
Submitted a Hulk 181 to CGC for cleaning, pressing and grading and was very unhappy with the results regarding the pressing and cleaning. Feel like cracking the case and putting some more time in to make the book present better. Featured the book in one of my uploads. Aside from this, enjoy your channel greatly. 👍
@@RegieCollects One book. My Hulk 181. There was a crease on the front cover after pressing that still existed that I believe I could have pressed out with a little more attention. Also the whites on the book could have been cleaned a lot better. I know they have extreme volume and CGC will not be able to put the time and care an owner could dedicate on their own book. I focused on the Hulk 181 on two of my uploads. I sent the book to CGC twice. First for grading, cleaning and pressing. This was my first CGC submission. Came back 7.5 purple label. Second time was for restoration removal, C1 color touch, CGC declined to work on the book. 😔 Still deciding what my next move is. Just purchased a digital microscope which can detect color touch. May take a crack at removing myself. Hell I was the guy who put the color touch on the book when I was a teenager in the late 80s. Silly youth.
Got it. You are definitely entitled to your perspective but the context of a single books is very relevant. I personally have sent hundreds of books to CGC and have also cleaned and pressed hundreds of books myself. Good luck if you decide to work on the book yourself. 👊🏾
@@RegieCollects CGC is not giving me the option to do both but anyway I will not do it because they would change label to purple if I get it restored. Thank you for replying.
@Regie Collects Comics I know this is an older video, but I had a question you might know the answer to. If CGC has liability insurance, why does a waiver have to be signed for them to crack open a slab? Maybe that isn't covered because of the potential book damage if done incorrectly? I am not sure if a waiver is included with online submissions for slab cracking, but in person at conventions it is. Thanks for all you do Regie!
The wavier is a relatively new thing. And, yes, it’s part of the online submission but admittedly I have not fully read it because I’m submitting raw books. My guess is that the waiver is required because you are holding them harmless in the event that a book is damaged during cracking. Put another way, the insurance isn’t being used, premiums stay low because that risk is taken off the table.
Wait times are unacceptable at this point. I'm still waiting on books from early October and no glimps of a finish line.... I think a back log is due to too many useless/worthless variants clogging up the system... I feel like they should have separate locations only for moderns! Thanks Regie!
I totally agree...tens of thousands of modern variants being submitted are clogging up the system. Those prices need to be raised or those books handled completely separately somehow.
@@RegieCollects I paid the extra money and bought a pressing machine... I feel like pressing myself will add an additional layer of satisfaction... it should be delivered any minute now... I’m super excited and watched your three part series on pressing about 5 times! You’re the best Regie and I want you to know how grateful I am for all the content you put out, the information you provide makes my hobby even more enjoyable 🙏
I wanted to suggest that but not everyone wants to get in on that game. 😂🤣 I think you spot on in that this is another aspect of the hobby that can be explored. And, thank you for the kind words. That actually means a lot.
I might want to get a comic pressed but they take too long. I don’t like parting with my stuff for that long. (8 months to a year is ridiculous) Especially at my age! If they make the service faster then I’d use it.
Great points that I thought of when considering sending books in to be graded. I have also used CCG to clean and press books since they are in-house. I am surprised at the tone of the video. I was somewhat taken aback at the lack of a list of cons although I do understand that this is your opinion about why YOU use CCG. I guess I just like your videos that are straight information that I can use, or not, to further my enjoyment of this hobby.
I have a factory fresh comic but it has some minor smudges on the back cover. Would pressing fix this? There's a 1 minute gideo on my channel showing what I am talking about. I'd really appreciate your input. Thank you very much!
Ever since I have been you using CGC/CCS to press my comics they have gotten way more better grades. I have 46-9.8; 23-9.6; 15-9.4; 5-9.2 now in my collection. I only had one bad experience with them. I had my Tales of the teen Titans # 44 graded at a 9.6, and sent it in to be cleaned and press for another signature and it came back a 9.4. Womp Womp Womp
You're the man Reg but you couldn't be more wrong. If you saw how CCS presses, you would run. They do plate, book, plate, book, plate, book. About 20 high. They smash them. Empty it. Next 20. DO NOT USE THEM. Find a local reliable presser. Build the relationship. You'd be WAY better off.
How can my opinion be wrong? It’s my opinion. 🤷🏾♂️🤣 I have been using CCS pressing for years with solid results and they have been pressing books for well over a decade. Most recent received a solid batch of mostly 9.8s. Are they perfect? Heck no. No one is. My one experience with a highly recommended local presser resulted in a damaged batch of books that were overpressed and stapes were popped. Quality pressers also have major backlogs because they are good. I think everyone should decide for themselves how they want to spend their money. 👊🏾
@@RegieCollects of course you're entitled to your opinion. But I'm saying if you saw the no nothing in and out process they do, you would change your mind. A Reliable presser is the way. He takes his time. Make sure each wrinkle comes out.
You’re absolutely right but when you lead a comment off with I’m wrong that’s just… 🤷🏾♂️ Personally, I don’t need to look inside the kitchen to have a good meal. With that said, you may not be aware that I’ve spent an entire day at CGC…in and out of the entire operation so not only is my opinion influenced by personal observations but it’s influenced by the outcomes that have been seen with hundreds of books that I personally have submitted.
Wow! I am just seeing this. The backlog at CCS and wait time makes this a non-starter for me. Matt Nielsen before he was CCS and before he joined CGC ruined a very expensive, rare famous funny 209 9.0 copy and accepted ZERO responsibility and offered no compensation whatsover. He will NEVER, EVER in life touch another book of mine.
Would you say that in general they press the books well? I have my first submission out right now and they are pressing 18 of the books I sent…really hoping 90% of them are cleaned and pressed well enough to bump the grades. One was a canto 1 1st print with two bends that werent color breaking.
I have sent more than 200 books to ccs /CGC in the last 8 months. I do not tell people what to do but I will tell them what I do so that they can make an informed decision. Does CCS do a good job? See my first comment. Could they do better? Who can’t. Can turn around times be better? Absolutely. Is there such a thing as fast pressing and cleaning? Maybe but all collectibles services are getting hammered. Is it easy to send a bundle of books to one place for pressing, cleaning and grading? Absolutely. Have I used a third party pressers outside of CCS? Yes, the books were damaged by the postman then the presser over pressed and popped a staple. Good luck with your decision.
Been waiting a year now for CCS…I just think waiting over a year for a paid service is ridiculous. If the demand is this high…expand your business and improve customer service and increase revenue.
You may want to check out the various comments on this video. It appears that more people are in my camp than yours. And, because you made a public declaration I am obligated to point out that I do not get a check or a discount from CGC other than the one provided to all dealers.
Great info provided- I am worried about the # of shipments and just sending to some random guy.. I went with sending to CCS/CGC like mentioned. Turnaround times though..OOOF lol
@@big90sspec9 yeah it’s public he’s on the cgc forum boards He can also press SS books I’ve used him about ten times but only to press up a SS book He’s in Florida and was the favorite go to guy before cgc bought out Matt
First 4 points are why I let CCS press one of mine. When I got it back, 5 months later, I had a slabbed comic with obvious pressable defects. Never again. Thumbs up, tho.
Lil by lil you start catching on to who’s giving real reviews and who’s looking to be sponsored… or who already is… and this video is clearly spoken like a true Cgc sponsored social media person lol. Your awesome in most vids but this is definitely a disagree video. I’m not a thumbs down guy tho screw those people lol. Experience? There’s tons of grader notes online stating basic pressable defects AFTER ccs pressed… I also love the TH-cam video where ccs destroyed a collectors highest graded Shazam 1 on the census I believe it was and all they wanted to offer was store credit for the collector to have Ccs potentially ruin more books lol… also time is a big factor to us regular collectors, especially those trying to flip to try n fund the hobby. We can’t wait 3 extra months on top of Cgc’s 4 months to get a book back…. But what is not stated in this list (of course) is a lot of us collectors believe! Cgc favors us using ccs so you’ll end up getting a bit of a grade bump just to show us that they are not that worthless but…. Find a local presser or invest in your own ladies and gents it’s definitly worth it in the long run
Thank you for taking the time to comment and watch this video. I appreciate both. I think it’s important to clarify a few things. First, I am not sponsored by CGC. I have never taken money from CGC. Hard stop. To imply that I do is factually I correct. This video was created to tell people why I use CCS because I get the question all the time. I also created this video because of the series that I created telling people how to press their own books and folks wanted to know what I am doing now. I use ccs because I don’t have time to press books myself. You are spot on about turn around time but this video is 5 reasons I use CCS. Not 5 reason to not use ccs. Next, good pressers out there in many cases have raised rates and/or stopped taking submissions because they are in demand and have long turn around times. Have I used an external presser? Yes. And, they damaged my comics and offered zero in return. This is something that has been mentioned in other videos. Books can always be damaged during the pressing process. Heck, I’ve messed up on some of my own. 😝😂 And, clearly I paid for that. As I’ve mentioned in other videos there is something called paper memory and reversion. This means that a comic can actually revert to its previous state after being pressed. Should this happen with professional grading? Nope. If this happened with a CCS pressed book they should make it right. Hard stop. It’s okay that you disagree with me. I’m cool with that but please don’t question my morals saying that I was paid to do something when I was not.
I am not certain about that. When I was onsite at CGC I certainly saw presses there. I don’t know for a fact but the quick presses may happen in-house with full press and other services like restoration removal happening elsewhere.
MEHHHHH why send it to them when you can do it yourself with practice.
You may not have seen my 5 part series on comic pressing. It’s not about a lack of skill. 😝😂 It’s about time and prioritization. 👊🏾
@@RegieCollects Dude no matter who you are in this life you have 5-10 mins on a book over the course of a few days. I have done a really filthy book in two hours. But opinions are plenty.
We’ll have to agree to disagree but thanks for sharing your perspective.
Edit: I would add that you illustrated to perfection the appropriateness of response. At the time of that recording I had 150 books at CGC. Using 8 mins of time this works out to 1,200 mins or 20 hours. To this point, I have more important competing priorities like moving across country, numerous house repair projects, a full time job, a growing TH-cam channel and two children under the age of 7.
Again, I thank you for watching and commenting.
@@RegieCollects great info
Thanks Reggie!
Absolutely appreciated this info
Love these general info videos. Regie. Ty
Very persuasive argument, very clear, detailed, easy to understand, thank you for this video
Salute.
I keep coming right back here to your channel. You have the best advice. What I mean by that is, you not only share your opinions, but also your life tested experiences too. Thank you for content I can always rely on. Salute!
I appreciate that bro. I try to remember that we as collectors are not one dimensional. We have interests and passions outside of comics, why leave that at the door? When appropriate I like to blend that stuff together. Glad you enjoy the appropriate.
Thanks for the information. Great and helpful video.
I sent a comic book to CCS, I didn't even know they send it to CGC for grading automatically after pressing! What a wonderful surprise. The CCS price is all inclusive also and includes the new CGC slab.
CCS doesn’t press without having the book graded. So a submission to CCS always results in grading. You will be charged twice. Once from CCS for clean/press and once from CGC for grading and encapsulation.
I've been doing research on how the best way to grade my collection and this video has me sold.
Thanks for the advice!
You are very welcome bro. There are a host of other videos and playlists that can also help you here. If you can’t find them, let me know.
Thanks for a very helpful video!
Thanks for the great information. Have a wonderful week.
all great arguments Regie. well done!
Thank you for this informative video.
Great rationale and logic! At a glance, these things seem like common sense, but the experiential wisdom you apply to the subject, bring to light a few deeper details and aspects of the process that one may have not considered. I will never understand the dislikes on your videos, this is solid content
Thanks you bro. I try as best I can to infuse my videos with my actual experiences versus theories. Put another way, I make a couple of mistakes so that others can avoid those. LOL. P.S. For some strange reason my computer never shows thumbs down. It's sooooooooooo strange. :-)
Important video, thanks!
I've had good enough results learning how to clean covers that I decided I'm just gonna buy a press myself. Might as well learn how to do that, too, & cut down on wait times & shipping damage risks even more 😆
Search TH-cam for my five part series on comic pressing. There is also a blog post on my website with links to the videos and resources that are needed for pressing. Good luck.
I've gotten some feedbacks from others on youtube stating CGC might not spend as much time to press & clean a book as independent 3rd party pressers would. In other word, CGC would rush their pressing and would do a half done job due to the large amount of books they'd receive. Can you please confirm if that's a true statement?
Great content as always, thank you.
Thanks, bro.
Excellent video and definitely things to consider. When using CCS for the first time using the standard tier, they held my books in the queue for the unholy turn time, but I was happy for the grades: one 7.5, three 7's, two 6.5's, a 5.5. two 4.5's and a 4. Not bad for books dating from 1965-1971. 6 of the books exceeded my expected grade, one was a match and 3 were lower. I reckon that's not bad for my first time.
Nice. Congratulations on the grades.
Thank for the info because I am gonna send in my comic to be press, clean n grade. Your 5 reasons to send it to CGC answers all my concerns.
Salute Tony.
Well done sir
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Thanks for the info. I've got an ASM #50 that needs a pressing and I also want to get it graded. You may have given me the advise I was looking for and I thank you.
Good stuff bud. If you signed up with CGC uses the link in the description of my various videos. Either way, good luck.
@@RegieCollects Yes, I'm a new member to CGC. I've made 2 submissions this past April so far with 7 books total. It does take them a while but they are now scheduled for grading. Best.
Great Info Video Regie I remember I was unboxing some comics & the Wife walked in unexpectedly & I had to quickly hid the the book by slipping it under my Seat Cushing's & giving it a quick Pressing.....but Seriously you have helped me with going ahead & using both services on one of my "Spidey's" Ron
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My experience with CCS has been good. They pressed and cleaned 2 comics for me recently: an 8.0 bumped to a 9.0 and a 9.0 bumped to a 9.8 so I was very happy. If they would increase their efficiency (turn around time) without reducing quality of clean and press it would be great though. We live in an impatient "I want it now" world and so the wait game can be tough sometimes. In 1900 it took up to 10 years to build a home, but man what quality work they did. May be just showing my old age here. :)
Lol. You hit the nail on the head. Turn around times can always be improved.
In my head, I always think: good, fast, cheap-pick two. 😂🤣
Great reasons. Time especially.
But now you can actually go with third party that will send your comics directly to CGC after they CLEAN and press. So the cleaning part of third party helps. Plus third parties give you some discount
Great thinking as always Reggie.
Thanks for the info & your opinion. This is a pretty timely topic as I have been trying to decide on sending some books to a very well regarded presser. I like your thinking on many of your points. Mainly the one stop shop and decreasing the number of shipments that could cause damage. Do you use the quick press or do the full press with CCS (or does it depend on the book)? Great content!
It depends upon the book. Books that have lots of defects may benefit from a full press. A modern book with slight defects may only need a quick press. I have another video coming out this week that touches on this same topic. I'm telling a story here. :-)
@@RegieCollects I have the same question. Which video are you referencing for more details? Thanks for your content.
Looks like Regie got an endorsement deal from CCS.
Nah, I just talk about what I use. Especially because I get asked the same question a few time weekly about who I use. 👊🏾
It takes them over a year to get to press your books. Honestly, they did a poor job on mine. I had already sent several shipments to them to press and grade. The ones I cleaned and pressed came back at higher grades. I sent them books I thought were at least a 9.4 -- some books I got back were 8.5 and 9.0/9.2. Bottom line: Do it yourself, don't have CCS do it; it's wasted money!
I have a great video series on self pressing. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I sent 3 books into CGC to get graded in August 13 and they were damaged in delivery to them, which I was informed that they received them with a corner crunch on the upper right hand side of my three books and wondered how well are they considering one was on a card stock cover and a black and white "sketch cover" ? I then told a CGC rep to have them pressed . Now im receiving a update of yesterday November 16th they are going to Encapsulation/Imaging. So how much further do I have to wait and why couldn't I have been provided a photo(s) of the damage to help me decide to continue or not to make me figure uut to press or not to fix my submission?
Thanks
Very good points. The only problem I've had with CCS/CGC is the turnaround time. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
6th reason. Makes a happy family.
FACTS!!!
Broo I’m a gym bro collector too! Haha
While I do agree with all your stated reasons for using CCS pressing service there are two reasons that I do not use them often.
1. You have no insight in the status of your CCS pressing order. Once the book gets sent over to the CCS side of the house, you have no idea what stage of the pressing service you order is undergoing.
2. Current CCS pressing services is running around 100+ days according to a customer service representative I spoke to about one of my pressing orders. So I am thinking 💭 okay it has been over 100 days already. Then she tells me no it has not been 100 BUSINESS DAYS. Now once she says this to me, it makes perfect sense that it would be business days and not days like I was thinking but now I realize that means 5 months for just the pressing service. That does not include the additional weeks for the actual grading of the book once it comes back from CCS to CCG.
That is a long time to wait to say the least.
In my case this was for an artist cover that was commissioned and I want the best possible grade, so it was worth the pressing charges to make sure I have the best possible chance at a CGC SS 9.8 grade.
Just some thoughts to add to the conversation.
Great video as always Reggie.
Facts. The good news is that the turn around time and business days, etc are actually on the website so people do indeed have some insight going in.
Regarding Point 1: Use a third party presser that ships directly to CGC.
That’s an option. The downside in some cases is that they will use there own account which means that you don’t get the CGC discount nor do you have visibility into the status of the books at CGC. This requires you to ping the presser to get status updates. With that said, there are some pressers that will use your account so it’s important to determine that upfront.
Great video and thanks for the information. This will be very helpful. One item for consideration is that some 3rd party companies that press/dry clean comics will also submit them to CGC at a discount. Depending on the value of the comic this can offset some of the cost of the pressing and dry cleaning. I haven't had any personal experience but will be submitting several comics, some direct and some through a 3rd party. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again, I try not to miss any of these videos. Really gets me back into the mindset of a true collector.
Typically they are only giving you part of the discount that CGC actually gives you directly. You also miss out on the annual $150 grading credit by having your own account. And, by not having you own account you don’t know where your book is in the process without having to contact the 3rd party to ask.
@@RegieCollects that's great information, thank you so much. I've got so much catching up to do...lol
Loving some of the new editing and behind the scenes stuff you’re bringing 😉👊🏾
Thanks bro. I've been trying to stay a few weeks ahead which gives me a little more time to creative and to challenge myself.
Great video. One major issue is turn around time. Cgc has to tighten that up. No excuse for pressing and grading to take longer than 30 days. They need to hire more staffing
I respect the response. Are you okay with prices going up? I ask because staff costs money.
@@RegieCollects simple answer is yes. But aren't they already charging you extra for fast track? And that time frame is still unacceptable.
I don’t fast track. That to me is a waste of money. Generally I’m not in a rush but...we can both agree that turn around time can be improved but I do not want to pay more. I think grading and pressing is already expensive enough. But, I’m cheap. 😂😅
Good stuff Reggie ngood info as always thank you 🙏👊💓
Haven't used CCS yet. Valid points and things to consider. Thank you.
This is super helpful Regie. I think there’s definitely some positives. One of the problems that I have heard (and this has been more recent) is that the wait times for sending it to CCS and then taken over to CGC is extremely long. I’m planning on sending my first shipment over so I’m trying to gather as much info as I can before I make my decision how I do it. Appreciate the info!
So far, its taken 5 months total for me using CCS and then going to CGC, I've sent two shipments( first was 10 comics and my last submission was 15 comics)
@@gabe1978 yea that’s quite a while. That’s honestly the biggest issue for me at this point
Awesome video men last time I used cgc pressing services and took almost a half a year six months to get my books back so which one of those things if you're okay with waiting that's probably okay to do but if you're not okay with waiting and I definitely not recommended but that's just my opinion
My guess is that that is unrelated to pressing alone but your point is well made.
You should do an updated video on this sets. CGC has had a lot of changes recently to their cleaning and pressing stuff and prices and things just to kind of give people sense of mind on what is happening with their books. Like what are they cleaning their pressing process? Maybe get some information from some people at CGCF kind of what they do cuz I know lots of people still have questions on like what are they actually doing when they clean and press your books just a thought
How much insight do you think they would be will to divulge about their internal processes?
I've only used them one time and I was pleasantly surprised. An example, I had an Omega Men 3 hit a 9.8 when I thought it would hit a 9.4 at most. Had 4 out of 8 hit 9.8 after press, 2 9.6, and a couple I knew would be lower, but all above expectations!
Those are the kinda surprises that I like.
Another tip is if there are already CGC witnessed signatures on the book and you believe you can get a grade bump or if you get additional signatures.
Some thoughtful reasons shared here, as always. I actually use a third party presser, but it is because of all the same reasons you shared (local/cuts out shipping, very experienced, professional, etc.). I do know that not all third party pressers meet those standards though. Always good to educate the community on trustworthy options, appreciate the knowledge, Regie!
Boom. If I had a local guy that could get it done, I'd probably go that route as well. The only presser that is local, about 45 minutes aways, had a 6-8 backlog last I checked.
LOBOs make the wall cut ?!
So when you select the “pressing” option through CGC/CCS does this include cleaning of the book before the actual pressing? Great video, very informative for new collectors!
Yes, books are always cleaned before pressing.
@@RegieCollects Follow up question: In your opinion does the declared value (and in turn the tier in which you select for grading and pressing ie Economy, Standard etc) influence the potential grade at all?
No. Grading is decoupled accounting. Graders have no clue how much you are paying for a book.
Last year I sent in my hulk 181, which was slabbed at a CGC 5.5 for pressing as the book looked like it had some obvious pressable defects. It came back a 7.0 which is quite a nice bump for that book!
I've had a couple of times I've sent in (already slabbed) books for CGC signing and included pressing, the grade stayed the same and, in one case, went down from a 9.6 to a 9.4. So the grade won't always improve, but I've had an overall positive experience with CCS pressing.
Good points! I'll offer a counterpoint, though: TIME!
I've submitted books to CCS that arrived on 10/01/20 that STILL haven't made it to the CGC side for grading (that's more than 4 months). If you're trying to minimize your turnaround, it's worth considering!
I used them for pressing a single comic and they shat the bed. Never again!
Luckily, I figured out how to clean and press myself.
Nice! I have an entire series on pressing here on the channel. There are also a few on cleaning as well.
Did they not like doing one comic?
Good video Reg, but you should have noted the time element. Sometimes months fir a book to be pressed. I currently have books at CCS since September.
The turn around time time is every changing and personally doesn't play into my decision making. Good, fast or cheap--pick two. :-)
@@RegieCollects Yep, send 'em and forget 'em. LOL
Send them and forget them is right. 😂😏
Never use them for pressing but it makes sense maybe I’ll give them a try
My last submission was only two months but I got grading that was ultra conservative. My last time out, most of mine were 9.8. This time 8.5 to 9.6. Couldn’t get a 9.8 to save my life.
Submitted a Hulk 181 to CGC for cleaning, pressing and grading and was very unhappy with the results regarding the pressing and cleaning. Feel like cracking the case and putting some more time in to make the book present better. Featured the book in one of my uploads. Aside from this, enjoy your channel greatly. 👍
I’m curious how many books have you submitted in total? Also, what was the source of disappointment?
@@RegieCollects One book. My Hulk 181. There was a crease on the front cover after pressing that still existed that I believe I could have pressed out with a little more attention. Also the whites on the book could have been cleaned a lot better. I know they have extreme volume and CGC will not be able to put the time and care an owner could dedicate on their own book. I focused on the Hulk 181 on two of my uploads. I sent the book to CGC twice. First for grading, cleaning and pressing. This was my first CGC submission. Came back 7.5 purple label. Second time was for restoration removal, C1 color touch, CGC declined to work on the book. 😔 Still deciding what my next move is. Just purchased a digital microscope which can detect color touch. May take a crack at removing myself. Hell I was the guy who put the color touch on the book when I was a teenager in the late 80s. Silly youth.
Got it. You are definitely entitled to your perspective but the context of a single books is very relevant.
I personally have sent hundreds of books to CGC and have also cleaned and pressed hundreds of books myself.
Good luck if you decide to work on the book yourself. 👊🏾
@@RegieCollects Thanks. You make a great point about time. My wife always wants me to delegate tasks to others saying “you can’t do it all”.
Do they clean the book? only press right? Also, backlog is still bad???
CGC doesn’t press without cleaning. Turn around times have dramatically improved and can be found on the website.
hi what is better Pressing or Restoration service in CGC?
Why does it have to be either or versus both?
@@RegieCollects CGC is not giving me the option to do both but anyway I will not do it because they would change label to purple if I get it restored. Thank you for replying.
@Regie Collects Comics I know this is an older video, but I had a question you might know the answer to. If CGC has liability insurance, why does a waiver have to be signed for them to crack open a slab? Maybe that isn't covered because of the potential book damage if done incorrectly? I am not sure if a waiver is included with online submissions for slab cracking, but in person at conventions it is. Thanks for all you do Regie!
The wavier is a relatively new thing. And, yes, it’s part of the online submission but admittedly I have not fully read it because I’m submitting raw books.
My guess is that the waiver is required because you are holding them harmless in the event that a book is damaged during cracking. Put another way, the insurance isn’t being used, premiums stay low because that risk is taken off the table.
Wait times are unacceptable at this point. I'm still waiting on books from early October and no glimps of a finish line.... I think a back log is due to too many useless/worthless variants clogging up the system... I feel like they should have separate locations only for moderns! Thanks Regie!
I totally agree...tens of thousands of modern variants being submitted are clogging up the system. Those prices need to be raised or those books handled completely separately somehow.
Hey Reggie, have you submitted a slabbed book and seen a grade bump?
What’s the interview portion of this live stream. It will help: th-cam.com/video/tNPLKQrCM30/w-d-xo.html
I sent 6 golden age books in to CGC a month ago, and, for the first time, I opted for pressing. Can't wait to see the end result.
Fingers crossed for you.
My hesitation is with the name... it may sound silly but when you call it “quick press” my brain associates it with low quality.
Pay the extra money and get the full press and let you mind be at ease.
You can only do a "quick press" with a 15 book minimum, otherwise it's their regular pressing. Not sure if better, but it must be slower ;)
@@RegieCollects I paid the extra money and bought a pressing machine... I feel like pressing myself will add an additional layer of satisfaction... it should be delivered any minute now... I’m super excited and watched your three part series on pressing about 5 times! You’re the best Regie and I want you to know how grateful I am for all the content you put out, the information you provide makes my hobby even more enjoyable 🙏
I wanted to suggest that but not everyone wants to get in on that game. 😂🤣 I think you spot on in that this is another aspect of the hobby that can be explored.
And, thank you for the kind words. That actually means a lot.
I might want to get a comic pressed but they take too long. I don’t like parting with my stuff for that long. (8 months to a year is ridiculous) Especially at my age! If they make the service faster then I’d use it.
Great points that I thought of when considering sending books in to be graded. I have also used CCG to clean and press books since they are in-house.
I am surprised at the tone of the video. I was somewhat taken aback at the lack of a list of cons although I do understand that this is your opinion about why YOU use CCG. I guess I just like your videos that are straight information that I can use, or not, to further my enjoyment of this hobby.
I have a factory fresh comic but it has some minor smudges on the back cover. Would pressing fix this?
There's a 1 minute gideo on my channel showing what I am talking about. I'd really appreciate your input. Thank you very much!
Smudges can’t be fixed with a press. That smudge may be in the ink. Try using a microfiber cloth to rub it. If it comes off, you are good. If not….
@@RegieCollects Thank you!
Ever since I have been you using CGC/CCS to press my comics they have gotten way more better grades. I have 46-9.8; 23-9.6; 15-9.4; 5-9.2 now in my collection. I only had one bad experience with them. I had my Tales of the teen Titans # 44 graded at a 9.6, and sent it in to be cleaned and press for another signature and it came back a 9.4. Womp Womp Womp
I've also always had a great experience using their pressing services, more so for older books vs modern.
does CCS press square bound books?
Yes
You're the man Reg but you couldn't be more wrong. If you saw how CCS presses, you would run. They do plate, book, plate, book, plate, book. About 20 high. They smash them. Empty it. Next 20. DO NOT USE THEM. Find a local reliable presser. Build the relationship. You'd be WAY better off.
How can my opinion be wrong? It’s my opinion. 🤷🏾♂️🤣
I have been using CCS pressing for years with solid results and they have been pressing books for well over a decade. Most recent received a solid batch of mostly 9.8s.
Are they perfect? Heck no. No one is.
My one experience with a highly recommended local presser resulted in a damaged batch of books that were overpressed and stapes were popped.
Quality pressers also have major backlogs because they are good.
I think everyone should decide for themselves how they want to spend their money. 👊🏾
@@RegieCollects of course you're entitled to your opinion. But I'm saying if you saw the no nothing in and out process they do, you would change your mind. A Reliable presser is the way. He takes his time. Make sure each wrinkle comes out.
You’re absolutely right but when you lead a comment off with I’m wrong that’s just… 🤷🏾♂️
Personally, I don’t need to look inside the kitchen to have a good meal.
With that said, you may not be aware that I’ve spent an entire day at CGC…in and out of the entire operation so not only is my opinion influenced by personal observations but it’s influenced by the outcomes that have been seen with hundreds of books that I personally have submitted.
Top reason- kids don't stay kids for long, don't blink!
Facts!!!
You mentioned that you’ve pressed your own books. I’ve never heard of that. How would you go about doing that?
It’s a multi-part pressing series: th-cam.com/video/4qNh9A8iv2U/w-d-xo.html
That pressing video series is what first brought me to this channel. It's pretty great 👍
Thanks Matt. I appreciate that bro.
Wow! I am just seeing this. The backlog at CCS and wait time makes this a non-starter for me. Matt Nielsen before he was CCS and before he joined CGC ruined a very expensive, rare famous funny 209 9.0 copy and accepted ZERO responsibility and offered no compensation whatsover. He will NEVER, EVER in life touch another book of mine.
Would you say that in general they press the books well? I have my first submission out right now and they are pressing 18 of the books I sent…really hoping 90% of them are cleaned and pressed well enough to bump the grades. One was a canto 1 1st print with two bends that werent color breaking.
I have sent more than 200 books to ccs /CGC in the last 8 months. I do not tell people what to do but I will tell them what I do so that they can make an informed decision.
Does CCS do a good job? See my first comment. Could they do better? Who can’t. Can turn around times be better? Absolutely. Is there such a thing as fast pressing and cleaning? Maybe but all collectibles services are getting hammered. Is it easy to send a bundle of books to one place for pressing, cleaning and grading? Absolutely. Have I used a third party pressers outside of CCS? Yes, the books were damaged by the postman then the presser over pressed and popped a staple.
Good luck with your decision.
Been waiting a year now for CCS…I just think waiting over a year for a paid service is ridiculous. If the demand is this high…expand your business and improve customer service and increase revenue.
Thanks I just can't get over the price of pressing
I’ve always wanted to ask. What is the grade of that amazing fantasy up there in the corner? Enjoy your show’s as always.
1.0
Beats a 0.5 lol
Reg ....I'm actually disappointed because CGC pressing service sucks. Bro you gotta be getting a check or a steep discount. 🤑😖😑
You may want to check out the various comments on this video. It appears that more people are in my camp than yours. And, because you made a public declaration I am obligated to point out that I do not get a check or a discount from CGC other than the one provided to all dealers.
you've probably answered this before but what do you use to hang your slabs on the wall behind you?
Comic Mount. Go to the partner page of my website for a link and discount code. Regiecollects.com
Great info provided- I am worried about the # of shipments and just sending to some random guy.. I went with sending to CCS/CGC like mentioned. Turnaround times though..OOOF lol
What are the wait times for pressing with CGC at the moment?
You’ll have to check the CGC website
Joey presses and then hand delivers to cgc
just curious...Joey who ? Is this public info ?
@@big90sspec9 yeah it’s public he’s on the cgc forum boards
He can also press SS books
I’ve used him about ten times but only to press up a SS book
He’s in Florida and was the favorite go to guy before cgc bought out Matt
@@pkeel7576 ok, thank you. So he can press SS books and they retain the yellow label?
@@big90sspec9 yes I’ll try to find his info
I just called him he changed the name to cfp pressing
First 4 points are why I let CCS press one of mine. When I got it back, 5 months later, I had a slabbed comic with obvious pressable defects.
Never again.
Thumbs up, tho.
So can I send 2 books to be cracked cleaned and pressed or do I have to have a certain #of books ?
You can send as many of as few as you like.
Never use cgc for pressing!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Lil by lil you start catching on to who’s giving real reviews and who’s looking to be sponsored… or who already is… and this video is clearly spoken like a true Cgc sponsored social media person lol. Your awesome in most vids but this is definitely a disagree video. I’m not a thumbs down guy tho screw those people lol. Experience? There’s tons of grader notes online stating basic pressable defects AFTER ccs pressed… I also love the TH-cam video where ccs destroyed a collectors highest graded Shazam 1 on the census I believe it was and all they wanted to offer was store credit for the collector to have Ccs potentially ruin more books lol… also time is a big factor to us regular collectors, especially those trying to flip to try n fund the hobby. We can’t wait 3 extra months on top of Cgc’s 4 months to get a book back…. But what is not stated in this list (of course) is a lot of us collectors believe! Cgc favors us using ccs so you’ll end up getting a bit of a grade bump just to show us that they are not that worthless but….
Find a local presser or invest in your own ladies and gents it’s definitly worth it in the long run
Thank you for taking the time to comment and watch this video. I appreciate both.
I think it’s important to clarify a few things. First, I am not sponsored by CGC. I have never taken money from CGC. Hard stop. To imply that I do is factually I correct. This video was created to tell people why I use CCS because I get the question all the time. I also created this video because of the series that I created telling people how to press their own books and folks wanted to know what I am doing now. I use ccs because I don’t have time to press books myself.
You are spot on about turn around time but this video is 5 reasons I use CCS. Not 5 reason to not use ccs. Next, good pressers out there in many cases have raised rates and/or stopped taking submissions because they are in demand and have long turn around times. Have I used an external presser? Yes. And, they damaged my comics and offered zero in return. This is something that has been mentioned in other videos. Books can always be damaged during the pressing process. Heck, I’ve messed up on some of my own. 😝😂 And, clearly I paid for that.
As I’ve mentioned in other videos there is something called paper memory and reversion. This means that a comic can actually revert to its previous state after being pressed. Should this happen with professional grading? Nope. If this happened with a CCS pressed book they should make it right. Hard stop.
It’s okay that you disagree with me. I’m cool with that but please don’t question my morals saying that I was paid to do something when I was not.
CGC and CCS aren't co-located though right? Doesn't CGC have to send/ship the books to CCS for pressing???
They are either in the same building or adjoining buildings.
@@cwwheelz oh ok
Thanks for pointing that out. Another TH-camr has always said CGC had to ship the books to CCS, and I’ve always wondered about that.
I am not certain about that. When I was onsite at CGC I certainly saw presses there. I don’t know for a fact but the quick presses may happen in-house with full press and other services like restoration removal happening elsewhere.
See my comment above.