Esam has probably done this too recently so he'd remember who he was talking about but maybe in a few months. This would be an interesting challenge for him
@@Morionite to be fair with how often he does these rants and how often he streams I think it's relatively safe to assume that unless the clip was from like just a week or two ago, it's vague enough for him to forget
I feel like ESAM should be in this as well. I wonder if he can remember who he's talking about sometimes. BTW, some people jump cancel Lucas up smash to get an invincible aerial.
I’ve never seen any Lucas do it in action, and I try it sometimes, but it just doesn’t feel practical. I feel like ESAM gives it more credit than it needs
Wait you can just, press jump while charging Up Smash and Lucas will be invincible for a second??? The closest thing I knew of to cancel able smash attacks was the 2 frame input Ryu and Ken thing
To explain Lucas: You can technically cancel any U-smash with jump in the first 3 frames, but for most characters it isn't useful. However, Lucas gains invincibility on frame 1 of U-smash, so he can use it to go through attacks and immediately use an aerial move to counter it. This is especially useful against ledge attacks and landing aerials.
@@xolotltolox7626 Because it's the slowest up smash in the game. Yes, even slower than Ivysaur or Ike, which is saying a lot. It apparently used to be only 4 frames of invincibility but got buffed in 4.0
I like how when Wadi got his first point he said like “I finally got on the same stupid wavelength as ESAM” and then when he got his second and was now winning he said “great minds think alike” XD which is it XD
little mac one is kinda easy if u know a lot about the game. For one is has to be a move with super armor that looks like kazuyas, little macs forard smash is basically a fast kazuya f smash with armor
It's amusing every time to see other Pandas be so confident and then turns out ESAM is the only one who's right. Whether it's these rant quizes, the slingshot stuff, or whatever lol but hey, they're still good at the game and entertaining (and Josh is just always a good addition to a video)
ESAM is kinda in the same category as Gimr where they both do a lot of labbing and understand a lot of fundamentals of the game, but then don't spend as much time practicing as the others.
I don't know why but this quiz topic is one of my favorites. ESAM rants ALOT about things and it's honestly fun trying to figure out which rant he's on.
i was also thinking isabelle but I would choose pikas lock as better because he is faster and the jab has very low endlag so he can cover multiple options easier
Marss' "two truths and a lie" applied surprisingly well considering ESAM claiming jab is Lucario's fastest move is flat out wrong since dair is frame 4 lol. Also saying ZSS upsmash is safe is the most bizarre thing bc UFD saying it's -17 is only referring to the very last hit, which would only be shieldable on a platform. On equal ground all you have to do is shield the scoop and it becomes -34.
I feel like for the most part when talking about a character's fastest move it doesn't really make sense to look at something like a dair, even if it technically comes out faster than jab if you're airborne it's still slower after you take into account jumpsquat frames.
@@meethepie Jumpsquat frames are only ever mentioned when talking about out of shield options. In every other case though they excluded when talking about aerial speeds, especially since they aren't always going to be done immediately from a jump. Nonetheless, Lucario's dair is still objectively faster than jab.
@@Elite4W you can’t ignore the jumpquat frames because those will already sliw you down because you always need to jump before you can actually use it. When using it practically it’s frame 7
@@Elite4W Yes it's true that the dair technically has a faster startup than jab, but the fact is that startup frame data is mostly relevant during grounded scramble situations, which is why the startup frames for aerials is largely irrelevant unless it comes out faster than their fastest grounded option (including the jumpsquat frames).
@@olympian543 You don't always have to jump to use it. Running off platforms/ledges or as a get-off-me when getting launched all don't require jumpsquat. Some aerials are practically used when falling but I'm not going to include the amount of frames during shff when stating how fast the aerial is.
this video is hilarious because it tells me that everyone else on panda only goes to the lab with their own characters and never actually checks the other ones or looks at what other characters are capable of.
Esam be like: "You can jump cancel Scooby Doo's quarter-turn side B off ledge into a lagless aerial but only on stages with two platforms, only on patch 1.69, and only if your opponent has looked in a mirror and said "zoinks, Scoob" three times within the last hour at any time between 1 and 3 AM EST."
I got 5. I was very surprised and proud I got the Ike nair one, because that's one of the few moves where you fish for the weak hit more often than the strong hit. And Marss is right, this did feel like 2 Truths and a Lie!
Echoing the sentiment that ESAM needs to be in on this. Like, he shouldn't join the headspace, chipping in his own thoughts, but write an answer down, and see what the other guys say is their guess and then compare. He definitely gets an advantage for being ESAM. But he's trying to interpret ESAM, so there's no guarantee.
3:20 What's the song here? (Found it: Creatures of Aether: Trials of Earth ~ Earth Battle) Edit: 6:10 and here. (Creatures of Aether: Air Adventure ~ Air Battle) Edit 2+: And 8:008:239:19 I like my 16-bit music okay? (Edit: Haven't found 9:19 still) 8:00 Rivals of Aether: Fire's Last Hope 8:23 Creatures of Aether: Aethereal Surge ~ Boss Battle (Preview Theme)
9:48 I swear I paused at this timestamp and said "Min Min?" cuz I was trying to think of characters that have been nerfed so I went with a dlc character
Somehow I guessed Pikachu's jab but it's only because I watched his jab tier list video. I feel like watching ESAM talk about stuff in context is the only way to understand where he's coming from
I'm sure Lucario's fastest move is his D-air at frame 3, altough grounded it's indeed that underwhelming frame 5 jab. Also, the average is 4 and it used to be an awful frame 7 which is pathetic.
Love how these top smash pros can't follow ESAM meanwhile I can without difficulty but can't play the game for shit. Shows how much more important having the right instincts and feel for the game matters than just having a bank of knowledge you can't use properly
Marss is an extremely good example of maybe not having the same level of offhand frame data + true combos as ESAM, but an extremely high level of situational knowledge and how to condition your opponent into choosing bad options. If you look at any of his set analyses it’s incredibly impressive.
I don't blame them for getting the Little Mac one wrong, for some reason ESAM said that Mac is invulnerable and has armor on top, which is obviously not true
Yes, 100% please do more of these if you can. It’s nice to see good friends do these types of challenges while having little moments to clown each other. Plus, the winner gets bragging rights! 😂
I used to put on the esam tier lists to listen to while doing chores, and now the right characters pop into my head immediately ;_; i’m being subliminally messaged
The only one I got right was diddy nair because I know baldy is talking about the application of nair and how its used and the general hitbox coverage not necessarily that it looks or has the range of Ike nair
ESAM should take this as well to see if HE can even figure out who he's talking about
amazing idea lmao Panda take notes
I was just about to write this same thing. Please UpVote
Esam has probably done this too recently so he'd remember who he was talking about but maybe in a few months. This would be an interesting challenge for him
@@Morionite to be fair with how often he does these rants and how often he streams I think it's relatively safe to assume that unless the clip was from like just a week or two ago, it's vague enough for him to forget
@@alexv0714 esam already reacted/did one and missed multiple (still got more than the others of course).
HAVE ME ON THE NEXT ONE I KNOW MYSELF (kinda)
also i said "your" not her, sorry y'alls ears don't work
@@imESAM hi Esam
It really is just esam against the rest of panda at times 😂
@@imESAM "good hell of a grief esam,you played smash for many years yet you still ramble about random shit for no reason"
@panda pin the man please, we all want the man in there defending himself
I feel like ESAM should be in this as well. I wonder if he can remember who he's talking about sometimes.
BTW, some people jump cancel Lucas up smash to get an invincible aerial.
true. we do need to see esam guess his own rants, see if he can get basically 100% of them or basically none of them.
Is that how that works, huh. I never understood why people did that
I’ve never seen any Lucas do it in action, and I try it sometimes, but it just doesn’t feel practical. I feel like ESAM gives it more credit than it needs
It’s not very well known is the main reason I think, plus the inputs are somewhat tight
Wait you can just, press jump while charging Up Smash and Lucas will be invincible for a second??? The closest thing I knew of to cancel able smash attacks was the 2 frame input Ryu and Ken thing
First question in and they already misheard “nair” for “dair”. This is gonna be a doozy.
@@oliviahughes3158 Nah he definitely said cancel lol
@@squirrelwithabanana He said both actually. A cancelable Up-smash that has invincibility.
@@oliviahughes3158 He said both actually. A cancelable Up-smash that has invincibility.
@@oliviahughes3158 lucas up smash can actually be cancelable look it up buddy
@@oliviahughes3158 You can jump cancel the first few frames of Lucas up smash and you still get the invincibility
To explain Lucas: You can technically cancel any U-smash with jump in the first 3 frames, but for most characters it isn't useful. However, Lucas gains invincibility on frame 1 of U-smash, so he can use it to go through attacks and immediately use an aerial move to counter it. This is especially useful against ledge attacks and landing aerials.
Sadly it's only two frames, i think
7 frames of Invincibility
Why the fuck does it have 7 frames of Invincibilty on Startup?
@@xolotltolox7626 Because it's the slowest up smash in the game. Yes, even slower than Ivysaur or Ike, which is saying a lot. It apparently used to be only 4 frames of invincibility but got buffed in 4.0
Thanks for explaining the hidden tech
@@N12015 he needs it :)
I like how when Wadi got his first point he said like “I finally got on the same stupid wavelength as ESAM” and then when he got his second and was now winning he said “great minds think alike” XD which is it XD
Love these videos where they actually talk together and don't just do them separately! They have such good chemistry!
They actually don't know you can cancel Lucas upsmash, and they're clowning ESAM while they're all wrong. The top tier of smash ladies and gentlemen.
I like how they do worse in this quiz than the one where a guy says "I like to knit" and the answer is he plays Luigi.
Wadi: Esam is so stupid
Also Wadi when he gets a correct answer: Great minds think alike
5:42 My guy did not like being interrupted lol
This Quiz is straight up impossible. I'm just glad I got Little Mac and Min MIn.
Literally the same two I got.
I got Ike, Pikachu and those two. Never been more proud of myself
I got the same two plus Bowser. tbh Bowser I didn’t even use logic for tho I just picked a random lingering jab.
I got those 2 + Lucas + Pikachu
little mac one is kinda easy if u know a lot about the game.
For one is has to be a move with super armor that looks like kazuyas, little macs forard smash is basically a fast kazuya f smash with armor
WaDi is such a personality on the Panda TH-cam. The underdog in the quizzes, funny reactions, not to mention "Ring deh bell."
It's amusing every time to see other Pandas be so confident and then turns out ESAM is the only one who's right. Whether it's these rant quizes, the slingshot stuff, or whatever lol
but hey, they're still good at the game and entertaining (and Josh is just always a good addition to a video)
ESAM is kinda in the same category as Gimr where they both do a lot of labbing and understand a lot of fundamentals of the game, but then don't spend as much time practicing as the others.
Tbh josh needs to do more quizzes
Bruh stop commenting on these videos
@@kaptnhoohah2903 ?
Nah hes boring and annoying asf
@@kaptnhoohah2903 no you
I just love the ending, the fact that Marss and WaDi were in tune for that outro was a nice touch
Ring the bell 🔔 they knew
I don't know why but this quiz topic is one of my favorites. ESAM rants ALOT about things and it's honestly fun trying to figure out which rant he's on.
5:48 I honestly was thinking what Wadi was thinking and I think Isabelle has a better jablock then Pika
i was also thinking isabelle but I would choose pikas lock as better because he is faster and the jab has very low endlag so he can cover multiple options easier
@@megamecha100 yeah, you've got a point there
@@SmashJEFF Not to mention he gets more out of it. Isabelle gets a ton at ledge or on a platform, Pika gets a ton anywhere.
For the next one of these you should just have a clip of esam saying "this is the 7th best character in the game."
(Mii brawler)
Marss' "two truths and a lie" applied surprisingly well considering ESAM claiming jab is Lucario's fastest move is flat out wrong since dair is frame 4 lol.
Also saying ZSS upsmash is safe is the most bizarre thing bc UFD saying it's -17 is only referring to the very last hit, which would only be shieldable on a platform. On equal ground all you have to do is shield the scoop and it becomes -34.
I feel like for the most part when talking about a character's fastest move it doesn't really make sense to look at something like a dair, even if it technically comes out faster than jab if you're airborne it's still slower after you take into account jumpsquat frames.
@@meethepie Jumpsquat frames are only ever mentioned when talking about out of shield options. In every other case though they excluded when talking about aerial speeds, especially since they aren't always going to be done immediately from a jump. Nonetheless, Lucario's dair is still objectively faster than jab.
@@Elite4W you can’t ignore the jumpquat frames because those will already sliw you down because you always need to jump before you can actually use it. When using it practically it’s frame 7
@@Elite4W Yes it's true that the dair technically has a faster startup than jab, but the fact is that startup frame data is mostly relevant during grounded scramble situations, which is why the startup frames for aerials is largely irrelevant unless it comes out faster than their fastest grounded option (including the jumpsquat frames).
@@olympian543 You don't always have to jump to use it. Running off platforms/ledges or as a get-off-me when getting launched all don't require jumpsquat. Some aerials are practically used when falling but I'm not going to include the amount of frames during shff when stating how fast the aerial is.
1:20 when he said invincibility and when he said up smash I IMMEDIATELY knew it was Lucas
But that’s GnW too 👁👄👁
@@UncleSpam1 yea but GNW doesn’t have invincibility frame one, so the cancelling tech esam mentioned would be pointless
0:33 I thought I was getting a text.
this video is hilarious because it tells me that everyone else on panda only goes to the lab with their own characters and never actually checks the other ones or looks at what other characters are capable of.
i love the panda dynamic, so funny and they seem like they actually like each other
Esam be like: "You can jump cancel Scooby Doo's quarter-turn side B off ledge into a lagless aerial but only on stages with two platforms, only on patch 1.69, and only if your opponent has looked in a mirror and said "zoinks, Scoob" three times within the last hour at any time between 1 and 3 AM EST."
I love how much pro players will tear each other's opinions to shreds
I got 5. I was very surprised and proud I got the Ike nair one, because that's one of the few moves where you fish for the weak hit more often than the strong hit. And Marss is right, this did feel like 2 Truths and a Lie!
Wadis esam impression started off pretty strong ngl
Echoing the sentiment that ESAM needs to be in on this.
Like, he shouldn't join the headspace, chipping in his own thoughts, but write an answer down, and see what the other guys say is their guess and then compare.
He definitely gets an advantage for being ESAM. But he's trying to interpret ESAM, so there's no guarantee.
7:08 “-23 that’s pretty safe” - ESAM
In terms of up smashes it is
Ur still taking a huge punish, as your opponent has about 25-30 frames to punish
Love the dokkan ost’s. Thank you panda editing staff
I feel like understanding Esam`s rant you ned to understanding Rick & Morty to
Its crazy how quick they are to make fun of him for things that he is actually correct about
yea, I dont get it either. Why is everyone on Panda always so negative towards him?
@@dragoknight1832 They can't comprehend his genius mind...
@@dragoknight1832 he’s bald
@@dragoknight1832 they’re friends with him, they aren’t actually hating on him lol
He’s the Gavin Free of this group
"You think i read the patch notes? Nerd" Lmao
I got 2 as well: Pikachu and Min Min
It's trippy listening to rants I've heard before and not remembering what he was talking about
3:20 What's the song here? (Found it: Creatures of Aether: Trials of Earth ~ Earth Battle)
Edit: 6:10 and here. (Creatures of Aether: Air Adventure ~ Air Battle)
Edit 2+: And 8:00 8:23 9:19 I like my 16-bit music okay? (Edit: Haven't found 9:19 still)
8:00 Rivals of Aether: Fire's Last Hope
8:23 Creatures of Aether: Aethereal Surge ~ Boss Battle (Preview Theme)
9:48 I swear I paused at this timestamp and said "Min Min?" cuz I was trying to think of characters that have been nerfed so I went with a dlc character
Got 4 right, Esam be talking about a move for one second, and the next he is telling you about his plan to ledgetrap his dinner or something.
Somehow I guessed Pikachu's jab but it's only because I watched his jab tier list video. I feel like watching ESAM talk about stuff in context is the only way to understand where he's coming from
I watched that video and I guessed isabelle
You can cancel Lucas upsmash into any aerial to gimmick his invincibility.
5:11 when Tom gets his thumb smacked
after watching this, I'm convinced all the pandas are deaf
Riddles did 1 2 jab into grab at the Gimvitational that's how I knew the Kazuya one, and I'm pretty sure he's used that mixup on occasion as Kazuya.
5:50 "Isabelle just doesn't jab lock at all I'm pretty sure"
Meanwhile wobble...
2:50
he did not say "her." I have no idea where they got this from
Panda try not to use Bayonetta music in video challenge (impossible)
Wadi actually kind looks small between them two
this isn't a competition, it's a team building excercise
He said "If that's your" not "Her" when talking about the 3rd one. He was hard to understand though in these clips.
Have ESAM do this test next time.
Let’s see if he even knows what he’s talking about.
I legit didn't get the ZZS one bc he said it's safe, we all know it isn't
This is like golf. The lower your score, the better.
6:53 he cannot be more right. Esam thought Mario up-b has the same potential to be used like G&W up-b, istg he just says random shit sometimes.
Both are frame 3 oos. Not much more to it
@@treeck3724 I mean that’s true but g&w’s is waayyyy bigger
Ending song is Dragon Ball Heroes theme from Dokkan battle, in case you were wondering
I specifically remember the jab tier list so I knew he was talking about Pikachu when he was talking about the jab that jab locks at 999%
I just binged the whole series lately, so i got like 80% right
Bro I'm looovin these marss wadi and x person videos , they're so great.
As a guy who has maimed kazuya since release, I’ve never even thought to grab out of the jabs
This is just the beginning of WaDi’s anime power-up arc
a quiz where you have to guess a move based on its hitbox would be cool
This is one of my favorite panda series! Plz keep doing it
I'm sure Lucario's fastest move is his D-air at frame 3, altough grounded it's indeed that underwhelming frame 5 jab. Also, the average is 4 and it used to be an awful frame 7 which is pathetic.
Yeah Lucario got nerfed hard in this game
ESAM clearly said "Nair" for Wario. Jaaa was the one that said it was Dair lol
Bruh I feel like I’m taking some sort of English test, where you have to read a passage and guess which of the 4 answers are false
2:59 he thinks Bayos jab is as *slow* as frame 5? Man, I wish that move was as FAST as frame 5 LOL
"It's minus 23, so its safe." In what goddamn universe is minus 23 safe?
This is the funniest series on Panda I need more
This should be titled “how much does Esam actually know about Smash?”
Love how these top smash pros can't follow ESAM meanwhile I can without difficulty but can't play the game for shit. Shows how much more important having the right instincts and feel for the game matters than just having a bank of knowledge you can't use properly
not just feels, understanding of different situations and knowledge of habits are things that are second nature to higher level gameplay
Marss is an extremely good example of maybe not having the same level of offhand frame data + true combos as ESAM, but an extremely high level of situational knowledge and how to condition your opponent into choosing bad options. If you look at any of his set analyses it’s incredibly impressive.
Ok, but those long esam move tier lists are great for falling asleep to
Love these quiz videos!!! Sound, level, music, and these Esam ones are all funny!
Wadi doing an ESAM intro is art
I'm in shock I got three right
ESam has no clue where he is, Panda goes "Sit in the chair and say words"
Great video, Marss and Wadi kind of good at this content thing, love to see it
I don't blame them for getting the Little Mac one wrong, for some reason ESAM said that Mac is invulnerable and has armor on top, which is obviously not true
He said Mac has armor, not invulnerable..
@@Bj-vd2tp check minute 7:09, he clearly says it's intangible
I heard everything exam said and ended up thinking I misheard when they misheard
Yes, 100% please do more of these if you can. It’s nice to see good friends do these types of challenges while having little moments to clown each other. Plus, the winner gets bragging rights! 😂
Three Pandas fighting desperately for control over their shared brain cell
My brain was trying to make marth fit for a lot of these lol
Also yes, as someone that dabbles with Kazuya, Jab 2 can combo in to Gates of Hell.
these past few panda videos have been hitting different
7:01 unity starts playing
I always wonder if marss, wadi, and esam just hang out casually irl
This concept is an instant series and an instant classic
This is my favourite type of quiz. More ESAM ranting, but nex time get him on the video so he can explain his thinking after you answer.
Definitely NOT staring at Marss arms
how did i get 3 of them. i haven't watched a single ESAM move tier list and barely even play the game
absolutely continue making these
im so sad that they didnt include the clip of esam saying that lucas could be top 20
Absolutely amazing how ESAM can sound so sincere and emotional while spouting absolute nonsense
getting 3 here made me feel more proud than winning 80$ from a local
I used to put on the esam tier lists to listen to while doing chores, and now the right characters pop into my head immediately ;_; i’m being subliminally messaged
Jab is frame 5 that's incredible specific thanks it's not like multiple characters have a frame 5 jab like shulk and sephiroth
Also, lucario's dair is frame 4, so it's not even his fastest option.
@@naya3149 Shouldn't you add jump squat to that, so its frame 7, or more realisticly frame 8-9
If u know the frames of every move in this game, it’s ok to go outside and socialize 😂
@@KingPineapple I googled it lol.
You absolutely need to get esam to play this
2:57 he said Your fastest
This is one of my favourite series, such a great concept!
Damn i only got Lucas, Ike and Pika
Esam rants do be confusing
3:01 These guys don't know Lucario can be female, such a shame
Have Esam on so he can rant about himself ranting
The only one I got right was diddy nair because I know baldy is talking about the application of nair and how its used and the general hitbox coverage not necessarily that it looks or has the range of Ike nair
I enjoy everyone being in the same room