Should You Avoid Netlify, Vercel, and Cloudflare? (Quick Reaction)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @thibault7190
    @thibault7190 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My advise would be to learn how to set infrastructure and deploy your app on it. Then, and only when you're confortable with infrastructure, you can use these serverless services. So you always know how to deploy on your own infrastructure as an alternative.

  • @ochronus
    @ochronus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    To people saying Coolify & a VPS are replacements: no, they aren't - they are fun for pet projects, but they won't substitute for the CDN, DDoS protection and resiliency coming with Netlify, Vercel or Cloudflare.

    • @ChristianKolbow
      @ChristianKolbow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is true. But many who follow here don't have a project that really relies on CDN or DDOS protection.

    • @ochronus
      @ochronus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChristianKolbow 100% agreed, one should choose the tool for the project, I just don't like the narrative that a single self-managed VPS is a generic replacement for such services :)

    • @JamesQQuick
      @JamesQQuick  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed with all of the above. I think I need to check out Coolify though. I've heard good things!

    • @ChristianKolbow
      @ChristianKolbow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesQQuick There is another tool. CapRover. Easier to use, but with minor limitations. I personally like coolify.

  • @jasonahern2789
    @jasonahern2789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Coolify seems a promising middle ground which I will certainly consider on a vps.

    • @JamesQQuick
      @JamesQQuick  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I've been told several times I need to try it out. Maybe it's time!

    • @ChristianKolbow
      @ChristianKolbow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesQQuick it's definitely time. i use coolify on hetzner servers. Coolify is really fun

    • @softwareengineeringwith9403
      @softwareengineeringwith9403 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dokploy is a pretty good option too

    • @adityaanuragi6916
      @adityaanuragi6916 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about sst?
      PS - I haven't used the cloud very much and don't even fully understand the difference between coolify and sst

    • @JamesQQuick
      @JamesQQuick  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adityaanuragi6916 I haven't used it myself but I've heard really good things. Unfortunately, I can't speeak to the difference between coolify and sst

  • @kettenbach
    @kettenbach 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only true vendor lock-in for me is overall cloud provider. I took the time to learn AWS services and terraform. I'm no expert but I am able to do most of the things the 2nd tier providers do for you. Most of those services are just wrappers over the larger provider. Aws and terraform make those tasks pretty approachable.

  • @estruyf
    @estruyf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Each of them has its own advantages and appropriate uses. Recently, I received a notification that one of my open-source projects would no longer be supported under their open-source plan. This made me realize that my website was too dependent on their ecosystem. As a result, I am reconsidering the architecture and leaning towards separating the website and APIs. This separation will make it easier to move the website and APIs independently, reducing reliance on a single host and framework.

    • @JamesQQuick
      @JamesQQuick  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh interesting. Where are you looking at moving?

  • @siya.abc123
    @siya.abc123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Serious question, why are JavaScript developers so afraid of setting up infrastructure?

    • @martapfahl940
      @martapfahl940 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stupid question.

    • @WebDevCody
      @WebDevCody 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      We just have a higher drive to ship a working product day one.

    • @siya.abc123
      @siya.abc123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WebDevCody I can do the same and won't come back to tell people I was wrong later.

    • @WebDevCody
      @WebDevCody 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siya.abc123 🤫

    • @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p
      @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@WebDevCodyyou mean garbage you'll never be able to scale

  • @adrian1jr
    @adrian1jr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my opinion I have all my projects in vercel, both clients and own and I only pay the 20$/m plan and as is well known is one of the most efficient platforms in terms of user experience for devs. And I think they have improved a lot the security and the way to avoid you get a 95k invoice haha, good video James thanks for giving your opinion is clear and concise.

  • @MohamedElguarir
    @MohamedElguarir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:17 nah doesn't work that way this will only happen if you're on serverless since you don't have control over you spend, for a vps you pay a fixed amount for the resources you need. and if someone ddos-ed you you server will go down 🤷

  • @MichaelMooregrownman
    @MichaelMooregrownman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is something I will eventual look into. Right now I'm using supabase to handle auth, storage and DB. Hopefully I never have to change.

  • @keithin8a
    @keithin8a 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In my entire 14 year career, I have migrated a database once... The reason was because we decided to build the app with a lightweight service first instead of an industry standard well tested service.

  • @akrishnadevotee
    @akrishnadevotee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Coolify + VPS = Problem Solved

  • @phoneywheeze
    @phoneywheeze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it's fascinating how people want tight integration but then also avoid vendor lock it, to me they both are somewhat opposite

  • @xamthor
    @xamthor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Base on the title Only, yes

  • @greendsnow
    @greendsnow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We don't want apologies.
    They're done with.

  • @joshuamanlunas8862
    @joshuamanlunas8862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Coolify bro

  • @matthijszondervan7638
    @matthijszondervan7638 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think we should only move away from Cloudflare just because it is not good for the internet to be to centralised in one big organization.

  • @Hagemony
    @Hagemony 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I rather not build at all that deploy my stuff on a vendor locked in platform. I'll proudly sacrifice my time and skills

  • @Kats0unam1
    @Kats0unam1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes. Absolutely avoid. Just learn on how to use a vps and nginx or caddy

    • @themedleb
      @themedleb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Caddy is the easiest.