RV Water Pump Pulsating ON & OFF • City Water/Tank Fill Valve Replacement
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- Why is the RV Water Pump Pulsating ON & OFF-THE FIX-Replace Faulty City Water/Tank Fill Valve
In this video I go into detail how to diagnose the problem and a full tear down of the wet bay and show how to replace the City Water / Tank Fill Valve-aka diverter valve-how to replace RV 1/2” PEX water lines with 1/2” cinch clamps, test the entire wet bay water system, some electrical tips for the wet bay utility light and at the end, I cover some other tips about using the RV water pump, an additional check valve you can install as a back up and some safety tips whenever you leave the RV or when you go to bed.
If you have any of the following problems or questions like: Why is my RV freshwater tank filling up on it’s own, why is my water pump coming ON and OFF every couple of minutes, my RV City Water / Tank Fill Valve is not working right, I think my water pump is having problems, I’m not sure if my RV water pump check valve is ok and so on….this video is for you.
Every time we had the city water off and was exclusively using the water pump in the RV, I could hear the water pump come on and go off for just about a second or so and this was happening about every 2 minutes. The pump was ON, but we weren’t turning on any faucets, the shower, flushing the toilet or anything. But you could hear it come on and off in the bedroom or in the bathroom. The water pump would come on and go off on it’s own for about 1 second or so. 2 minutes would pass then it would do it again.
After checking and making sure there was no air in any of the water lines, pump or the water heater, there’s only 3 things that could be causing the water pump to pulsate ON and OFF:
1) There is a small leak somewhere in the RV - I checked everywhere and there was no leaks
2) Water is getting past the city / tank fill valve, or
3) Water is getting past the check valve in the water pump
There’s only two ways the RV fresh water tank can fill itself?
1) Water is getting past the city / tank fill valve
2) Water getting past the check valve in the water pump
To find the new replacement valve on eBay that I used go to ebay and type in: 1/2" PEX x 1/2" PEX Crimp Angle Outlet Stop Valve, 1/4-Turn Ball, LEAD-FREE NSF
So whether we had the RV hooked up to city water or using the water pump and fresh water from the tank, this valve was leaking by the City Water / Tank Fill Valve and filling up the fresh water tank over time. If you only hook up your RV to city water you’d never know this problem is happening because the leak by is silent. But using the pump and fresh water tank, the pump has to work and it will alert you that you have a pressure leaking problem.
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We have a Winnie Vista of the same vintage as yours. A couple years ago, I had the same problem, and I shot gunned the check valve, assuming that was the problem. Luckily in my case it was. The check valve is available as a separate item (Shurflo p/n 94-800-03) from the pump. Also, the switches used for the water pump (and elsewhere on the RV) are Carling "Contura II" switches. I broke one of the actuators replacing the light bulb in it. The actuators are available from West Marine (and other boat parts houses) for a reasonable price. BTW, I replaced the incandescent bulbs in the water pump and battery switches with green LEDs that are made to work on 12V (Mouser p/n 593-LTH5MM12VFR4500). The battery switch lamps were very dim, but the super bright LEDs are easy to see, even in direct sunlight.
As a Plumber. I must say you did good! 👍 Keep up the good work Martin. Stay well 🙏
FYI, you do the best job of explaining how to diagnose and repair a problem of anyone I have watched. I have my RV permanently parked. In a forest, 8 miles from any paved road, in Iowa. If something breaks, I have to repair it myself. You are a lifesaver my friend. Thank you many times over. I hope you continue to do what you do for as long as possible.
Thank you Martin. I love and follow your channel. I am setting up my unit as much as I can like yours because I have a Vista like yours but mine is a 2013.
Your 2013 will be exactly like mine.
Outstanding job Martin.....thank you for the solution !
Same rig, same problem… Now I know how to fix it. THANK YOU!!!
Excellent video. I had a similar issue with my newer Vista. It happened 4 weeks ago and I was not sure I could tackle it in the short timeframe I had. Paid $250 parts and labor. After watching this video, I could have done it myself. Now I know. Thank you.
Thank you Martin,you are a natural educator
Your to kind 😂
Thanks for another great how to fix video. Always very instructional and easy to follow.
I am glad you used spade connectors. I had a customer that lost the electric side of water heater. The power cord was connected with wire nuts and one came loose and fried the wire. I used direct crimp connectors and then added additional electric tape to make sure if my crimp fails the wires would not come apart. I tell all my customers to add electric tape to all wire nuts.
Question and an observation: 1) I clicked on your ebay link (having a few of these valves in my work van seems like a great idea), and the seller's ebay item description does say 1/4-turn SHUTOFF (rather than diverter) valve. Is it just mis-labeled on the ebay seller's description? 2) I was laughing (because I live this every day) when you panned back to show the tools you needed to complete this project. I've been a handyman for a long time, and it never ceases to amaze me how many tools I can use for seemingly simple projects. Some folks fail to understand how much of an investment professionals make in even simple hand tools (I recently calculated I have close to $1,000 just in assorted pliers!) that are essential in getting projects completed correctly and in a timely manner.
No not mis-labeled. These valves go by both names. That is the valve I used though. As far as tools goes, this is why I encourage folks all the time to be building their tool box so when stuff like this comes up you can tackle it. This would of been around a $1,000 job by a RV tech. My cost was $5 (for the valve) + my time. Folks here can do the same thing and put some of that money into tools.
thx Darrin 👍
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Outstanding! Your videos are thorough enough for even beginner RV owners to get the job done right!
Thanks 👍
Great video on pulsing water pump. Diverter valve was my problem. I was not shutting off firmly! Thanks
I'm sorry to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. So sorry💔
Thanks Martin!! RIP...miss you man!
Great info. I had a similar mishap at the end of winter while dewinterizing our Southwind. Water pump was doing the exact same thing, and I had a leaking hot water hose on the outside shower. Had to pull the panel as well. Noticed I had rust and peeling paint on the panel, so I knew I had to "Martinize it"!! It came out Great. Thanks for your video's!!
Great video on fresh Water hook up thanks
I may have this problem. Thank you, as you’ve built up my confidence to see if I can tackle mine, when I get it out of storage, in April. My pump didn’t go off and on repetitively, like yours, only once in awhile, so my leak must be pretty slow. Thanks Martin! I really appreciate you more than you’ll ever know!! Gail
Good to see ya,ll my Texas friends
Thank you Martin. Hopefully someday I will get a chance to meet you at some park or Rally take care.
Nice Job Martin and very good info for all of us. I always learn from you. Thanks
I like the way you try and make it look factory or better! It doesnt take much to make it look the right tools help!
Thank you sir! I just had this problem and we never use our fresh water tank the only reason I knew it was leaking is because I keep the drain valve under the trailer open and it was pouring out water. I knew that was bad because we never fill our fresh water tank. I turned the valve off to the pump and it stopped now I just need to replace the value thank you sir!!!!
Just went through this today, awesome information and replaced normal/fill valve.
My coach is Winnebago 08 Destination .
The correct valve part # is
Flair-it 16880
Thanx Martin.
I just found your channel today. I subscribed and look forward to watching many more of your videos. Everything is so well explained. They are a joy to watch.
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Joannie... I need to do this repair. I always depend on his videos.. miss his knowledge.
Great video Martin, What a pain of a job. Like most of the repairs or upgrades, they take time or you can pay someone big bucks to do it for you. I can think of other things to spend our money on, I'll do the job. Get well soon, hope to hear you soon, Praying you and Joanie are feeling the love and prayers to get well from your Subscribers.
Another Great video. Just corrected the exact issue on my Baystar. I tried a new pump before the ball valve. The cycling pump and overfill of the fresh water tank drove me nuts. Was a lot easier to sneak the new valve behind and not removing the entire panel on a Newmar.
Great video! I knew about the check valve on the water pump but would never thought about the fill valve!
Another great informative video. Martin, watching your fearless attack and diagnosis of the problem is really inspiring. I have learned a lot and done a lot following your videos. I appreciate and applaud your service to the rv community.
Joe in Las Vegas.
Hi Joe in Las Vegas,
Thanks for chiming in.
That's me "THE FEARLESS ONE" 😎 😂
*Franklin D Roosevelt: The only thing we have to fear is fear itself*
@@RVstreet Martin, love your channel the best, your rig is a close match to mine, 2018 winnie sunstar lx 29N. you have educated me so much, I cant even tell you ... I would like to invite you and your lovely wife to visit Vegas, and stay for free on my property, 5 acres with power and water and buy you guys dinner as a way of saying thanks... open invitation whenever you get to this area. Keep up the great work, O Fearless One!
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You both do such a great job with your videos. I’ve learned a ton and have saved money by doing the work myself thanks to you. I just purchased the icrimp tool. I can’t remove the ring with the one I have.
Thanks so much Carl 👍
I had the same issue with my fresh water tank was filling every 2 days .. .. the fill value (plastic ) was leaking, and replaced it with with brass ball valve and then same issue with water pump cycling every 5min a few months later.. We added a check value to the exit hose with a shark bite check value for 9 bucks.
Sir... I love your channel, and YOU are one of my primary inspirations for embarking upon the journey of become an NRVIA Certified Technician. Thanks so much for the effort you put into creating amazing, informative videos!!
When do you graduate?
As always you can do it. You the best. I keep a spare pump also. Just flushed my hot water heater with very little build up of calcium and lime coming out. Sanitizing my fresh water tank first of the week. In Cape Fair, Missouri at ACOE till the 7th , then to Campbell Point, Missouri till the 13th then to Benson, Arizona for the winter. I thought I was south but McClellan, TX is way further than Benson. Hope you both a wonderful time there. Would love to see you guys in Mexico. I'd buy the drinks 🍸 🤪 😋. Lol. Always, Steve Robinson. Always got ya back buddy. Thanks.
Thx Steve 😎
You are good, watched your page first time
Thank you Jerzy so much.
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Fantastic Martin. God speed buddy
Great video and diagnosis! I had a similar issue with intermittent pump pulse but couldn't find any leak. Finally replaced the fresh water inlet which had a slight air leak in its valve.
Can’t say enough. Another great video. Thank you Martin!
Excellent !
Very nice video Martin.
I think you may have save me a lot of aggravation. I was sure I needed to replace my diverter valve but after isolating the pump like you said, I'm now positive it's the pump which actually will be easier to do. Instead of buying a new valve, a crimping tool, crimping clamps and pex tubing, I just need to replace the pump which looks pretty easy and requires no special tools. Maybe I should have waited to comment until I get and install the pump to be sure I solved the problem but I'm too excited and wanted to thank you now.
Thanks RV,
Here's a video I did on replacing the pump. After you watch it be sure to read the very first comment: th-cam.com/video/x9XqiCpYauc/w-d-xo.html
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Thank you Martin I really enjoyed watching your diy’s!
AMAZING workmanship.-well done! ☺
Super video! Thank you.
You are good,at diagnosis
Another great video.
Great information as always! I’m always learning new things and better ways to do the required maintenance as needed.
Great training thank you so much. You're probably going to get sick of hearing from me but quick question what are you using for insulating the pipes I used the black insulation. But I noticed you have silver is that just silver tape taping it on?
Mine is also black tube pipe insulation with silver foil tape.
Oh yeah one more thing? A video of slide-out seal repair? Ya neva know when they are needing replaced. Doing mine in Arizona this winter. Double slide-outs. Coachman Aurora 36ft motorhome
To many different types of slide out seals for me to do a video 😂
Thanks!
Thank you 👍
Good video! Very informational. I got lucky and was able to get mine changed out without removing the panel when it failed. Somewhat different assembly on the 2016 model. Any thoughts on a regular compression fitting? I've been using that with a compression tool. Not real happy with it but it seems to work OK if I can get it in-- sometimes very difficult to use in tight places.
*regular compression fitting* do you mean the type that you tighten by screwing the ring tight? If so I don't like them for this application.
@@RVstreet Copper ring band --I believe mine is an IWISS PEX 1/2 and 3/4 copper ring crimp tool (ASTM-F1807). Works great if you have the room to open the handles, but isn't worth a flip in tight areas. I think I like your style of crimp band better. This one weighs a ton and you better have 2 free hands to use it LOL.
@@americanrascal53 Ok, those rings require a GO no GO measuring device to make sure it seats right. It's usually bought separately.
Qanother grate video, you da man.
Thanks Martin that was done well understanding it is the whole thing to working on some excellent job I’ll be back🙏🏻
Thank you Albert.
I see you're quite the YT watcher and a subscriber to many channels. I'm honored to be on your sub list 🙏 😎
You have to be very careful with Teflon tape a little to much and it will snap your fitting and I learned the hard way. It’s better to use a pipe dope for what type pipe you are using plastic copper, just a little something to help you not bust a plastic fitting in the middle of no where .
I would never use pipe dope in this application.
As long as you're taking so long... And you do all that marking etc to ensure things go back together...
I'm surprised you didn't make a new sticker or label for the new valve as the old label is out of alignment now.
That would've been a neat video. (Totally superfluous though)
Ya,I don't care about stuff like that, I mean, I'm anal about maintenance but that doesn't matter to me.
Martin, thank you for the great video. I’ve been away from motor coaches, motorhomes, etc. for a number of years. As you went through the video you were answering my questions and taking them off one by one. I have a unique problem though and maybe you’ve had to deal with it in southern Colorado. The water is contaminated with multiple radio logical items. in my little city more like a village we have radium and uranium in the water supply. The city acknowledges it and sends a letter out almost monthly saying don’t drink it. Don’t wash with it don’t cook with it. Well, it’s kind of questionable if you’re not gonna wash with it. So we have to buy all of our water. You answered my question about the reverse osmosis system, but do you know of anything that can remove the radioisotopes that are in the water. I got a feeling as if there is something like that it’s going to be expensive. I recently purchased an older Motor Coach 1998 biild but it only had 108,000 miles on it. I didn’t think that was bad. I’m still waiting for delivery. But I am learning a lot from you and I’m enjoying your style and sense of humor as well. Thank you for the tip and how to navigate your website. I’m an old guy, so I enjoy all the details. TK
I am heartbroken to say Martin passed away and I am not able to answer technical questions. Very sorry
Thanks for the video.
Thanks Martin I got a lot of good tips from you now you can come up and do mine haha
Hey....I'm the instructor. This video is now your homework assignment. Now get to work 😎
Excellent video!!!!
Perfect video for the same problem in my Winnebago Vista! I just bought the PEX crimp set from your Amazon store. Can you suggest what size drill bit I use to drill out the rivets? Also - any suggested rivet gun/tool? Thanks for the detailed video! I’ll be tackling this job in a few weeks when the weather gets warmer by me and I can dewinterize.
I am sad to tell you that Martin has passed away💔
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I am so sorry to hear that and very sorry for your loss. @@RVstreet
Excellent info, thanks for walking us through your thought process.
BTW, why do you use your fresh water tank and water pump when hooked up to city water? Assuming to keep tank fresh?
When ALWAYS turn off city water at night and when we leave the RV for any reason.
Hi Martin, Thanks for another great video. Are you saying that Winnebago does not provide a source for purchasing those original valves? I thought they were supposed to provide customer service for obtaining parts like these. I have 3 of these on mine (others used as drain valves). I better get some more of these. My little black plastic knobs have stripped and I am using a pliers now! Was assuming I could call Winnebago and order some replacements. Thanks
ths HBH...
Winne DOES provide excellent CS and yes many parts too. I've ordered cabinet facings that were made in 2012. But they don't stock everything and especially parts that can easily be replaced by 3rd party parts like common plumbing parts. Another example, would Winne replace a factory water pump? Maybe but why. They're readily available online from a number of suppliers.
Great video Martin. Why do you use your freshwater tank when you're hooked to city water?
This has been answered several times in the comment 👍
Miss you buddy! Rip.
I miss him too 💔
Slide outs are a problem do you have a video on slide out repairs?
No sorry I don't. To many models and types over the years.
Great video Martin, thanks a million for all your effort! Do you leave the city water on all the time, even when the pump is on?
Nope. Pump is always off when hooked up to city water. Then......City water is ALWAYS OFF whenever we leave the RV or at night time. At night, usually after dinner until morning, we live off the pump.
Thanks again sir!
Where is the Amazon store? Went to the home page and just saw videos?. There was no “Down there”. .?
My store is here: www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet
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Hi Martin. Thanks for doing this video. Do you or your viewers know where I can get those label's for bypass etc. ? I want to paint that large panel and re-label. Thank you.
Can't be bought to my knowledge. Just make them to the correct size & color on your computer, put the file on a jump drive and have a place like Fast Signs print them out on self adhesive vinyl.
There is one other reason the pump is running. The check valve directly on the back of the city water inlet hose. Ours went out and the pump was moving water from our fresh tank out the city water connection.
I'm thinking that may be my problem. But I'm not hearing the pump. My fw tank is filling no matter where lever is
Hey Martin, I got a bunch of stuff in my Amazon cart about $700 worth on my app. How do I get all that stuff under yours so you get credit?
thx so much Mike 🙏 😎
Go to your cart, click all the stuff in your cart and put it into "Save for Later"
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Why do you primarily use your 12v water pump, and not city water ?
When ALWAYS turn off city water at night and when we leave the RV for any reason.
I have this issue but it turns on every 2 hours do you think more than likely this could just be a leak or a dirty diaphragm?
I'm sad to say that Martin has passed away and I don't have the answer to your question. Sorry
@@RVstreetprayers for comfort and healing
FYI I swapped the pump out with a new one and it fixed the problem I'm guessing it was losing prime.
I do not see your Amazon store down there. Whst am I doing wrong?
Here: www.amazon.com/shop/rvstreet
Since you're having trouble, watch this video I did. It'll show you all the tricks.
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Thank you Janet 💕
Why can't I find your Amazon store?
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Only one band-aid. That's pretty good for a plumbing project.
And this a great up grade use a 110 volt home heating and use you home type thermostat and there a couple type clips that hold the heat controller to a bare metal spot because you may have to cut and clean a spot on your water tank. With this style you can’t set your heat of you water tank and not use the RV type with the diodes and there cheap wire. Try it you will love it and I forgot there is a big red button in the middle and that’s a built in breaker which is a extra one. And they are a lot cheaper. 12 bucks for heating element.
My issue was the toilet valve
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I figured the arm covers were for some non politically correct tattoos .
Please educate yourself on double negative. @weren’t doing nothing .” So you must have been doing something. Always talk positive please.
Great info.
Awesome video!
Thank you.