Is Dedra Meero About to DIE? ANDOR THEORY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2024
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I think superintendent Dedra Meero of the ISB needs to go. And I don’t mean this in a bad way, but Dedra is simply way too smart and way too ruthless to be kept alive. Throughout the entire 1st season, she has essentially made her way from the bottom to the top, driven by her own competencies and gut instincts. All of which has pointed her towards the right direction, and as every episode continues she seems to be getting closer and closer to exposing the full nature of the Rebellion. And all of this is great, it goes a long way to show that the Empire had incredibly competent personnel and that not everyone below the top brass of imperials are incompetent goons who often end up making a fool out of themselves.
Which is why Dedra is such a fascinating character and a very dangerous character. But what we’ve also seen throughout the entire season is that she hasn’t really hit any major roadblocks. Sure there have been a few obstacles along the way, but for the most part her ambition remained mostly intact and as a character she hasn’t really been pushed towards the brink of desperation like the other rebel characters. For the most part, it's been pretty smooth sailing for her especially once she got rid of her ISB rival. But I think something major is coming soon, something significant enough that might just throw her career off the tracks. And the reason why I think this might be the case is due to a scene not from Andor but from Rebels (scene).
This short brief moment between this imperial officer and Tarkin took place moments before the formal introduction of Thrawn. Who himself states that his intention is to ensure that there won’t be a galactic wide rebellion. But this particular scene which is supposed to take place 1 year before the battle of Yavin happens well after the events that occurred in Andor season 1, which is roughly 5 years before A New hope. And I think more questions are raised when you consider the fact that Dedra had already raised the possibility of a galactic wide rebellion within the ISB well before the events of rebels (scene).
So all this really just begs the question of what happened to Dedra’s findings? Did the Empire just forget about all of it or is this a mistake in continuity? It just seems like Dedra’s work wouldn’t go unnoticed, it simply wouldn’t make much sense. Afterall, she has already presented her findings to high ranking officials like Yularen and it wouldn’t make any sense if a guy like Thrawn wasn’t aware about the existence of her findings as well. As a major threat to the empire, it’s really not something that you could sweep under the rug. So what possible explanation could there be for this disconnect in what the empire knows about the rebellion? Well you could simply chalk it down to a continuity error, as that really wouldn’t be the first time star wars has made such a mistake. But I don’t think that that is the case.
You could actually argue that when Deedra presented her findings to the ISB back in episode 8, it wasn’t conclusive at all. Much of it was based on a working theory, one that was backed up by some evidence, but not at all conclusive for the Empire to act as if there was a coordinated rebellion at play. The ISB’s decision to invest in Dedra’s plan was more of a confirmation plan, to really see if Axis, Luthen, was really pulling the strings behind all the separate incidents of rebel activity (scene). So already it's pretty murky when it comes to checking if the Empire truly understands the scope of what is going on.
But even if the Empire didn’t have complete confirmation of a galactic wide conspiracy, the trajectory of Dedra’s investigation would have led her to eventually expose Luthen’s work and therefore a coordinated rebellion. She was afterall on the right track, having drawn the connection between Aldhani and stolen imperial property. Instead what this scene in rebels might foreshadow is Dedra Meero’s downfall. What becomes clear here is that Dedra needs to go if the rebellion is to survive.
But when I talk about Dedra’s future downfall, I don’t strictly mean that she has to die. Actually that might not even be the case. What actually needs to happen if the rebellion is to survive is that she needs to be discredited entirely. Her reputation within the ISB needs to be called into question and confidence in her competency needs to be completely destroyed. The ISB needs to be convinced to pass her off as a failed investment in order to completely invalidate her findings and her hunt for Luthen. Simply killing her wouldn’t do the job, if at all it would actually raise the suspicions of the Empire. That Dedra must have been on the right track which is why she was killed for it...
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Would not surprise me if a combination of the ISB mole, and Syril each acting on their own completely derail Dedra's career entirely.
@ZyklonBeast I had the same thought. She’s figured out too much too fast about Luthen. She’s either dying or getting some huge setback.
I think she may die in Syrils arms
Please, someone tell the emperor to clone an army of Dedra for God's sake
@@rothsshvili5125 How is cloning Dedra Meero going to help? Surely it is Dedra's personal mindset, her ruthless determination, ambition and resourcefulness which make her so formidable. Any clones that the Empire were to produce would not have Dedra Meero's upbringing and social circumstances rendering them useless.
My guess ... Blevin takes back the Morlanna sector, then Lonni and Blevin bury Dedra's findings.
this
I was just thinking that. Blevin might be up to something. She was warned by Partagaz and has also been too relentless for her peer's liking. My guess is she gets swept under the rug by a surprise ambush of sorts.
Pourquoi?
I'd argue that she isn't done yet, I think the best of this character is yet to come...but these are just my hopes. Hell of a theory though... great content, cheers!
Could be just the opposite. As I recall, Dedra (as an officer of the ISB) is actually being played by Luthen Rael. One of the goals of the armory raid was to get the Empire to think a wide spread and coordinated rebellion is brewing and so the population must be oppressed to maintain control, thus stirring support for a galaxy wide insurrection.
He played everyone except for dedra. Remember right after the ISB goes into crack down mode dedra says they are doing exactly what the rebels want. And they’re actions of mass incarceration is going to create massive backlash
@@corbettblackman6322 I didn't catch that, thanks. The plot thickens......
@@deepashtray5605 don’t worry I missed that it was Yularin in that meeting and had to rewatch it when a friend told me, which is how I picked up on the Dedra scene😂
@@corbettblackman6322 Kind of mind blowing just how much there is to talk about in this one Star Wars series.
I love that character. It is so well written and played, and she is a strong woman in a male surrounding making her way by competence and strong will. I hope they keep her in the serial.
There's also the possibility that the ISB just didn't disclose coordinated galaxy wide rebel activity to the rank and file imperial military. The CIA holds information from the military all the time. It's also worth noting that in Rebels, after the "no evidence of galaxy wide rebel organization" comment, that it's immediately corrected by Grand Admiral Thrawn. Which whom we find out DOES have personal/professional ties with Valorum. So it actually still tracks in continuity.
It will be interesting if Dedra Meero is a Rebel Spy. The first Andor trailer showed images of people standing up and one of the images is Dedra. It should be noted that Luthen has spies everywhere and not all the spies are aware of who is working for Luthen or not. Also, Luthen showed little concern for Dedra's actions.
I have a sense, rebellious, she will turn. Season 2, we will see.
That would destroy her character, the new imago of the empire and the series. Also would be way to much like agent kallus' story.
So a downfall similar to Syril Karn’s, maybe even with him becoming her replacement’s assistant.
Hopefully she doesn’t die - I’d like to see her reassigned to some low position in the Outer Rim, eventually becoming a crew member on the Chimaera.
I feel like we're gonna see the ISB Belvin do something dark and have her taken out or something so he can get back to his sector, So when she falls, she falls alone
Fun fact: the actress that plays Dedra is the voice for Yennefer (The Witcher 3).
I think it's unlikely Dedra will end up discredited, for the simple fact that she's been right to date and clearly has convinced her superiors of the validity of the evidence at hand. Trying to convince the ISB that she's a crackpot, or that her evidence is wrong, would do nothing more than make the ISB more suspicious and probably expose the mole -- because it would take so much more effort.
A simpler solution would be to lure her to a location with domestic unrest -- like, say, Ferrix in the wake of Maarva's death and with the increasing Imperial presence -- induce a riot (probably not difficult), then stun her with a blaster (no suspicious blaster holes that might provoke a more thorough investigation and crackdown) and beat her to death with blunt weapons. Whooops, guess she got caught up in the riot, awful shame, she was a rising star, who else does the ISB have to do intelligence analysis? Yes, it's ugly and reprehensible as far as Rebel tactics go, but that's rather the whole point of this series -- the lengths that those like Luthen, Kleia, and Cinta are motivated to go to in order to counter the Empire.
To consider the Thrawn angle, though: Thrawn has always been presented as a military genius -- both tactical and strategic -- with no particular aptitude for politics. For all his brilliance, he's no ISB analyst -- and the ISB, in its human-centric xenophobic outlook, probably wouldn't welcome him in the first place.
Just had a thought 💭, why not a series on just the Empire ⁉️🔥🤷
Because Empire without rebels isn’t Empire
@@iamcrown7067 Political backstabbing ?
Agree 100%. I have been mulling similar sentiments these last couple of days. However, the method is the issue. I was thinking that the DoF will stage a bombing of the HQ hotel on Ferrix. In the process killing a majority of the garrrison and Dedra as will in the process. Some of your notions are excellent: Blevin & Lonnie staging a loss of credibility effort. Her assistant compromises her work in order to usurp her position, other novel approaches.
There isn't a disconnect though. She's correct to suspect but the Rebellion isn't connected. My feeling is they bring in Thrawn to handle it because they think she's correct. The various groups aren't actually united until after the Ghorman Massacre.
She’s gonna end up in the cube farm with Cyril.
So, for episode 12, we have an attack on her when Dedra was at the mercy of the crowd, which is why she will have PTSD in the future (like Savin dan Glokta from "A Little Hatred").
And the Ferrix situation itself. In totalitarian states, they always try to push failures onto a scapegoat.
I don't know what the consequences will be in the second season, but your theory turned out to be correct.
You know what would be really wild if a Dedra was in fact another mole within the empire.
I think she leaves the empire as a whole, the ISB probably stops taking her seriously after she fails to find the rebel cell in the finale. Thrawn then approaches her with a deal, for her to join the chiss in secret since she could make a great asset
and freed, will be Bix!
Bro this is a very well though out prediction, wouldn't be surprised if ur right. U actually spoiled the spy in the ISB for me so I was expecting it😭
Dedra Meero is a female Star Wars version of the real life Reinhard Heydrich.
No, because she's Rey's grandmother.
I’m thinking the rebels will make it look like she made it up to help her career.
Ooooooor. The authors don't know about that special scene in Rebels :D
Syril and Dedra have the hots for each other and will hook up professionally and perhaps personally. Dedra’s assistant (or maybe Blevin) will figure that out and use it against her.
"Watch your Back".....
Not until season 2. She is going to bathe in the blood of Syril though
Just bought a nice new suit, and it comes with pockets of rebellion.
Luthen knows her name, so maybe he’ll go and assassinate her. We know he’s going to Ferrix disguised in a black outfit.
No, she will survive with the help of Syril Karn and they will fall in love.
She will be recruited by Thrawn eventually
This was my exact thought.
I think at the start of Season 2 we'll find Dedra checking the purity fuel levels on some forgotten planet in the outer rim. Syril will be her escape route back to Coruscant.
Her role is well played. I really dislike this nasty character. Her face must hurt after a day’s filming, walking around with that scowl on. Reminds me of Silvio Dante from the Sopranos in that way.
Her being a plant by Luthen would be brilliant. He wants the rebellion to happen and what better way to insulate himself than his insider “discovering” it, and leading the investigation.
Hear some talk of Luthan being a Jedi or Sith but Rogue and now Andor don’t seem to need any “I am your Father” moments to keep the story thrilling.
I really hope more SW fans start watching this series but I don’t even think you need to be one to enjoy? This is one of the best series, of any genre, I’ve watched in some time!
I think you nailed it… some shape of what you said will go down… bravo…. I would put money on it
She's not actually as smart as Thrawn. But Thrawn (according to Timothy Zahn) is more of an antihero and he's not ISB..... He's hands on leading a ship so around the galaxy.
I think there are two possibilities for her character.
1. She will survive ber "failure" to capture Cassian Andor and double down on being a true believer.
2. She will be made the scapegoat, cashiered out of the ISB and end up defecting to the rebellion.
I think Syril ends up sympathizing with the Ferrix rebels somehow and eventually becomes a rebel. This turn discredits Dedra and she goes down as a result.
I have a more tinfoil-y, “Because I got high” theory- all of these characters are part of the rebel alliance. This whole series is about how the rebel alliance was composed of people from all backgrounds, including within the Empire.
false evidence, like video of her meeting Syril outside the ISB building? Maybe Blevin gets video of that and tries to make it look like she coordinated with Syril to stage the whole thing to boost her career?
I love her as a character
Does she end up at the MAW installation ??? Aka Suncrusher plot line in the books???
If her supervisor is afraid of her they might get rid of her. Buy several ways.
I predict that LT Meero will be blamed for the funeral procession uprising against the Empire (remember, she was the one that authorized it) and she will be the first officer to defect to the Rebels.
Perhaps... She's a Variant.... Perhaps she'll be captured by the TVA from Marvel... We are in the Multiverse.... just a thought...
It doesn't matter how well she proves her case if Palpatine refuses to listen to her.
on thorns take
they suppose to drop this theory cos axis saced whole unit
Well, it goes without saying. The ISB alone could not prove the existence of true size and nature of the rebellion that was growing. Grand Admiral Thrawn was Imperial Navy which fell under the authority of the Imperial Military. If people follow canon, Imperial Intelligence existed which openly cooperated with the military. It was noted from sources mentioned in several books, Imperial Intelligence and the ISB did not get along.
Please someone tell the emperor to clone an army of Dedra for God's sake
She's not going to go. The actress already said she knows she's going to be around for a long time
Disney has a good record of not sticking to continuity I've noticed that in other series and novels as well I really wish they would follow the continuity what sucks is they did away with legends it would be nice if they made a different time-line and made legends series and movies
She got it in the end at funeral..
I think Andor is part of a reboot of the entire star wars franchise
Klea might actually be Lea who could become the main character instead of Luke.
So continuity becomes obsolete.
What? You hit your head and forget andor is a prequel?
@@Michael20
That is the point.
You change the past to change the "present". So rogue 1 is going to happen (already done in movie) but star wars 4,5,6 get rewriten. It is not that far in the futur.
It is my theory. Marvel did mention they wanted to change 4,5,6 to make it more mainstream (woke).
That is just my theolry. I do not underestimate how underhanded woksters can be with cultural icons such as 4,5,6 or any movie or anything deemed too white or too masculine.
@@curious_dude2811 I believe the wokeness agenda so that is probably likely since Disney likes to stay unprofitable.
@@Michael20
This is why, IF my theory is correct, that this awesome show is underhanded.
They make a past we like and love to make us accept a rebooted woke version of star wars.
It would also be scary since it means the wokesters are becoming more competent and finding the right button to push.
@@curious_dude2811 Man what sort of crackpot have you been hitting to concoct this theory?
Dedra's voice sounds like 7 of 9 a little.
You may be making the same mistake she does in assuming an organised rebellion. At this point, it is mostly fuelled by the will of the force 😜
I think she's ultimately going to fail at the end of episode 12 and then she'll come back in season 2 hell bent on revenge
Spoiler
She dies in bomb attack traveling back to isb. sorry
How do you even know that
@@iamcrown7067 Saw's rebels ambush and blow her up.
@@lucifer_eleven that’s depressing
@@iamcrown7067 Whats depressing is granddaddy Palpintine didnt know of Dedra if he had he would have surely released his unlimited power into her;)
The Empire strikes me as a more patriarchal government…THIS also is working against Meero.
One would assume that's the case, but while she is surrounded by men, and most of the commanders are men, I don't see her being treated differently because of her gender. I mean even considering this is overall extremally toxic, high pressure and competitive environment where people are stabbing themselves in the back on regular basic ;) The Empire is xenophobic and human centered but doesn't seem to be sexist. The ISB major treats everyone equally and don't do anyone any favors. If anything he quickly discovers Dedra's talents and let her pursue her case further. All he demands are the results, and you know you don't want to disappoint him. I finally see the Empire in the way it makes me believe they dominate the galaxy. They're evil, pride, and often egocentric but absolutely efficient in the way they don't waste their human resources by excluding or patronizing large porting of it. Aliens though are not even foot soldiers. Maybe part of the reason is they're harder to control and maintain than humans.
You’re thinking too hard.
If you're going to go to the effort of making a video about Dedra Meero, can you at least pronounce her first name right? It's not hard.
Mistake in continuity.
So this whole video is about how you would kill and or discredit a WOMAN who is smart and good at her job??
They typically do it themselves
Yes. It's all rather shameful and plays into the male psyche's predilection for misogyny.
Setting gender predjudices aside, Dedra Meero is simply too great a threat to the nascent rebellion: she must either be sidelined or discredited if the rebellion is to succeed.
I can’t see the replies to this. Apparently TH-cam blocked them
What part of the character being fictional do you not comprehend? But there always has to be someone who trolls to get their - look at me, look at me - fix, congratulations, well done you....
Fictional women needs white knight. Just bento is sad