Those lenses are definitely interesting at a good price, and as you already mentioned, they only come in E-Mount, which seems to be a trend on a lot of recent cine lens releases. I do understand that the majority of creators prefer it, but for someone like myself who shoots on EF-mount cameras like the Blackmagic and Red, it's really a shame. By the way, I love your videos!
Those lenses are M-mount native, and were adapted to E-mount, it is easy to adapt M-mount to E-mount because of flange length of E mount is shorter than flange length of M mount. For EF it is impossible to adapt this lenses, because flange length is longer, not shorter. To be adaptable to EF, lenses must be designed for longer flange length in the first place, and it is very difficult to make compact lenses for long flanges.
why would they make this in a phased out mount? There is an L version for BM. There will be an RF mount eventually - however take that up with cannon the fact that you can go ef->rf only.
To me this lenses are beautiful - I think they strike a very good balance between acceptable character and required performance standards. Especially at their price point, it is almost cognitive dissonance because they punch so far above their price it makes me uncomfortable. I remember when the sp3s came out because of the branding and price I wanted them to be amazing and was totally underwhelmed and had cognitive dissonance the opposite way. Most of the complaints I see are people mad they don't have them in the mount they use - which is a good problem to have.
E-mount only is not a smart marketing choice, as it is the only mount that doesn't lack native lenses and one that doesn't prioritize the cinema features.
If you want PL - buy DZO(same manufacturer), but PL will be much bigger. Intent of this lenses - small size, and it is achievable because of mirrorless mount.
@@JonCarroll21it requires completely different optical design because of flange length. Lenses would have been much bigger. Shorter flange length is the reason why lenses designed natively for mirrorless mounts are much smaller.
As a summilux facsimile it’s always disappointing to me when cheaper lens manufacturers try to copy the name of the lens they are “inspired” by. It screams cheap copy where as it would be much more authentic and trustworthy if lenses simply set out to do a job and they described the intention not the aspiration.
Actually you are pronouncing Thypoch much better than a lot of other reviewers. The ‘Th’ is like a soft T sound. Somewhere between T and D. Although I did hear one Chinese reviewer pronounce it almost like a Z or ‘Dz’ sound recently and that kind of messed with my head. The important thing is that it is not “thigh-pouch”. 😂
Great lens, great video, just imo though, it looks nothing like film. It looks like just regular modern day digital footage. The softness just comes from being shot wide open. I guarantee when you stop it down it'll look just a crisp and as sharp as any other lens. BUT....... still a great looking lens hands down!
Leitz cinema lenses are very expensive, and not very popular with cinematographers. They are so well corrected for distortion, that the images look flat. As for a lens making digital capture look like film? Never gonna happen. Cinema lenses won’t even make your movie look like a movie. A good lens is simply … a good lens. Cinema lenses are no different than lenses for still cameras.
I guess you don’t watch A24 Movies.. well, they are the best in the business with so many Oscar’s and their movies are shot wide open for a distinct look. Don’t blabber before educating yourself. Many prefer wide open n modern cinema
@@shinzychan5117 Did you even watch the video?? “ most high level cinematographers won’t shoot wide open” literally quoting what was said by the person who made the video. Go back to film school buddy. Actually you should just go back to regular school and learn how not to have the attention span of a five-year-old.
You need to differentiate between famous and infamous, sir. Leica is not infamous for anything, maybe their pricing but definitely not their build quality 😂
With your accent I can’t tell what the name of the company is and you didn’t put the spelling on the screen and your link is blank. Tipod? Tide pod? Tripod? Typ hod? The world may never know
Sorry. If not in L or PL then no problem cinema person (not one-man-show AF person) will go near it. Better tell Typoch that! Or else they don't want to step on DZO's toes?
Nice video, but pronouncing Leitz like litz is really annoying. How can you talk so much about a company without knowing how to pronounce its name? That's like talking on and on about Porsche, while calling it a porch. It just grates on the nerves to hear people horribly mispronounce words. Famous names in particular. Even more so when they speak as experts. In German words, ei is pronounced like eye. Always. If you can properly pronounce Leica, which you do, then you should be able to properly pronounce Leitz. Great video though.
I spotted another mistake - Nisi is not Anthena but Athena (Goddess of Wisdom in Greek Mythology) btw interestingly enough SIMERA means Today in modern Greek :) - I like this guy tho and his videos but I agree with you - about knowing the brand.
Manual focus cameras are cheap and super sharp. Unfortunately they are impractical and generally suck since you always need to wrestle with their inconveniences.
not everyone wants AF lenses - if u want AF buy sony glass - manual focus are made for long focus rotation and organic focus feel - letting shots go out and come in to focus / finding ur focus - problem with AF lenses is nowadays everything is always in focus all the time - AF has become a game changer but its nice to shoot manual focus on shoots you want a more organic feel
@@sertocd Manual focus lenses are what’s used on most professional projects, including about every feature film out there. Yes, they do have more people on set, but personally as a one person shooter who has used both AUtoFocus and Manual focus, I have found manual focus to be the more convenient one as you don’t have to tap the screen to focus and you can keep your hands on the grip and the lens. Not only that but there’s no pulsing and other quirks that come with AutoFocus.
I have a set and absolutely adore them, but for people that have yet to build up their own sets, they're going to have to deal with up the prices increasing to find good ones, especially with the wider focal lengths. It's a journey itself to actually to get yourself a complete set. You may also need to de-click the aperature and add focus gears if you're using follow focus, which is another barrier.
Those lenses are definitely interesting at a good price, and as you already mentioned, they only come in E-Mount, which seems to be a trend on a lot of recent cine lens releases. I do understand that the majority of creators prefer it, but for someone like myself who shoots on EF-mount cameras like the Blackmagic and Red, it's really a shame. By the way, I love your videos!
Those lenses are M-mount native, and were adapted to E-mount, it is easy to adapt M-mount to E-mount because of flange length of E mount is shorter than flange length of M mount. For EF it is impossible to adapt this lenses, because flange length is longer, not shorter. To be adaptable to EF, lenses must be designed for longer flange length in the first place, and it is very difficult to make compact lenses for long flanges.
They comes in Leica M mount not just E mount. Correct your facts
why would they make this in a phased out mount? There is an L version for BM. There will be an RF mount eventually - however take that up with cannon the fact that you can go ef->rf only.
don‘t listen to the trashtalk, you‘re doing a fantastic job. your videos are top tier with personality.
I appreciate that!
Could u maybe make a more detailed comparison between the thypoch and Nisi athena’s? Really torn between those. Thanks mate!
Your quick reviews of new gear and lenses have been incredibly helpful. Please keep up the great videos!
Thank you!
I'm running with the LUMIX S5ii. Are there any plans for Thypoch lenses to be adaptable to L mount?
There is an L adapter for the M-mount lenses.
Yes, as mentioned m mount will be shipping soon and then can be adapted.
M Mount is now available on their site. Get a L to M Mount and you should be good
The website says that they are going to do M-mount as well.
Brilliant video, thanks. Merry Merry Cheers from Western Australia
Thank you, Merry Christmas 🎄
These look incredible
Honestly think I'm going to invest
Awesome review mate! Keen to try these at some point and see how they compare to the Vespids.
There will be L mount, but PL I do not think so, the flange distance might be a problem...
Did you forgot to put the lens link on the description ? Buy the Cine Lenses here: [Insert link]
Yes, thanks for the heads up.
To me this lenses are beautiful - I think they strike a very good balance between acceptable character and required performance standards. Especially at their price point, it is almost cognitive dissonance because they punch so far above their price it makes me uncomfortable. I remember when the sp3s came out because of the branding and price I wanted them to be amazing and was totally underwhelmed and had cognitive dissonance the opposite way. Most of the complaints I see are people mad they don't have them in the mount they use - which is a good problem to have.
Lovely images and a great review.
Many thanks!
The website says that they are going to do M-mount as well.
You can get these in M - Mount and then adapt to basically any camera.
4:10 I think I heard somewhere that they will possibly be releasing a lieca M-mount version? I could be wrong though.
Great video!
Yes. Of Two Lands just posted some test footage with that version
they just came out today :)
Nice vid! Are you able to say when your Laowa Nanomorph LF video is going to come out? 👀👀👀👀👀
Next week!
@@OBP_ Oh niceee!!! Can't wait
M mounts can now be pre-ordered on B&H 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Looks super soft wide open
E-mount only is not a smart marketing choice, as it is the only mount that doesn't lack native lenses and one that doesn't prioritize the cinema features.
Who makes cinema lenses without offering a PL mount version? Productions won't consider them without a PL option.
A manufacturer who knows their core demographic won’t be high end productions.
If you want PL - buy DZO(same manufacturer), but PL will be much bigger. Intent of this lenses - small size, and it is achievable because of mirrorless mount.
@@igorzhidkov1957it should still be optional as that’s really the only downside I see
@@JonCarroll21it requires completely different optical design because of flange length. Lenses would have been much bigger. Shorter flange length is the reason why lenses designed natively for mirrorless mounts are much smaller.
@@JonCarroll21 Flange distance, you need to plant the lens into the camera if it is PL mount
As a summilux facsimile it’s always disappointing to me when cheaper lens manufacturers try to copy the name of the lens they are “inspired” by. It screams cheap copy where as it would be much more authentic and trustworthy if lenses simply set out to do a job and they described the intention not the aspiration.
Actually you are pronouncing Thypoch much better than a lot of other reviewers. The ‘Th’ is like a soft T sound. Somewhere between T and D. Although I did hear one Chinese reviewer pronounce it almost like a Z or ‘Dz’ sound recently and that kind of messed with my head. The important thing is that it is not “thigh-pouch”. 😂
These are great.
I have my own tip on how to get the film look …….. shoot on film
😆
Sorry but I have to ask:
Where are you from in England? 😅
I am from Germany and love your accent, but I'm not sure... maybe Yorkshire? Liverpool 😂
Yorkshire :)
same result for cheaper: helios 4 (best bokeh + more swirl)
meh - there is a difference between adapting an old lens and what these are.
Great lens, great video, just imo though, it looks nothing like film. It looks like just regular modern day digital footage. The softness just comes from being shot wide open. I guarantee when you stop it down it'll look just a crisp and as sharp as any other lens. BUT....... still a great looking lens hands down!
Letiz is pronounced the same as Leica. ..it's right there in the name..Leitz Camera
e mount only. exits chat but look nice for those who use that mount.
Not really any camera :/ EF mount is still very popular. Shame.
[insert link] 😂
Bruhhhhh 🤣
Sony E mount
Leitz cinema lenses are very expensive, and not very popular with cinematographers. They are so well corrected for distortion, that the images look flat.
As for a lens making digital capture look like film? Never gonna happen. Cinema lenses won’t even make your movie look like a movie.
A good lens is simply … a good lens. Cinema lenses are no different than lenses for still cameras.
Most high end cinematographers won’t shoot wide open unless your Zach Snyder😂
I guess you don’t watch A24 Movies.. well, they are the best in the business with so many Oscar’s and their movies are shot wide open for a distinct look. Don’t blabber before educating yourself. Many prefer wide open n modern cinema
@@shinzychan5117 Did you even watch the video?? “ most high level cinematographers won’t shoot wide open” literally quoting what was said by the person who made the video. Go back to film school buddy. Actually you should just go back to regular school and learn how not to have the attention span of a five-year-old.
Breathy
You need to differentiate between famous and infamous, sir. Leica is not infamous for anything, maybe their pricing but definitely not their build quality 😂
With your accent I can’t tell what the name of the company is and you didn’t put the spelling on the screen and your link is blank.
Tipod?
Tide pod?
Tripod?
Typ hod?
The world may never know
For anyone curious at 3:32 a very shiny image shows thypoch
Apologies, I updated the link in the description now!
hahahahahahaha Tide Pod. yea I have to listen very carefully to these videos.
Sorry. If not in L or PL then no problem cinema person (not one-man-show AF person) will go near it. Better tell Typoch that! Or else they don't want to step on DZO's toes?
Typo spellcrackers, sorry. If not L or PL then no pro cinema person...
E mount. And for that reason I’m out
They released M mount today
They comes in Leica M mount not just E mount. Correct your facts
my comment vanished lol
CA? APO.
You get so much wrong it’s embarrassing. FFS.
Nice video, but pronouncing Leitz like litz is really annoying. How can you talk so much about a company without knowing how to pronounce its name? That's like talking on and on about Porsche, while calling it a porch. It just grates on the nerves to hear people horribly mispronounce words. Famous names in particular. Even more so when they speak as experts. In German words, ei is pronounced like eye. Always. If you can properly pronounce Leica, which you do, then you should be able to properly pronounce Leitz. Great video though.
I spotted another mistake - Nisi is not Anthena but Athena (Goddess of Wisdom in Greek Mythology) btw interestingly enough SIMERA means Today in modern Greek :) - I like this guy tho and his videos but I agree with you - about knowing the brand.
Dude is Scottish or whatever. Let him cook, lol
@@daveythehand4964
Okay...
Calm down Karen.
@@memcrew1
I guess the most intelligent thing you can muster is to call names. I give you full credit for your stupidity.
Manual focus cameras are cheap and super sharp. Unfortunately they are impractical and generally suck since you always need to wrestle with their inconveniences.
not everyone wants AF lenses - if u want AF buy sony glass - manual focus are made for long focus rotation and organic focus feel - letting shots go out and come in to focus / finding ur focus - problem with AF lenses is nowadays everything is always in focus all the time - AF has become a game changer but its nice to shoot manual focus on shoots you want a more organic feel
@@sertocd Manual focus lenses are what’s used on most professional projects, including about every feature film out there. Yes, they do have more people on set, but personally as a one person shooter who has used both AUtoFocus and Manual focus, I have found manual focus to be the more convenient one as you don’t have to tap the screen to focus and you can keep your hands on the grip and the lens. Not only that but there’s no pulsing and other quirks that come with AutoFocus.
@@SPM2206 Surely, problem is, auto focus lens can be a manual one but manual focus lens unfortunately stuck being manual.
You need to stop doing crack cocaine …. very bad example for other people ⚠️
naah, just get yourself contax zeiss lenese and save some money.
I have a set and absolutely adore them, but for people that have yet to build up their own sets, they're going to have to deal with up the prices increasing to find good ones, especially with the wider focal lengths. It's a journey itself to actually to get yourself a complete set. You may also need to de-click the aperature and add focus gears if you're using follow focus, which is another barrier.