FFS, what is wrong with people. Of course contestants expect the experience to be brutal if they've never danced before. That's not the issue. The issue is when does pushing people to do their best turn into abuse. Nobody signs up for abuse.
I think I remember when Strictly was newish, the professional dancers didn’t comment much AT ALL!! The celebrities were “The Stars” That has all changed and the pros are just as big as the celebrities. Put health warnings out to celebs. REQUIRED A) athletic mindset. B) advance my career mindset.. C) Help, I love it but I can’t really dance.. D) DOES ANYONE KNOW ME? … E)MOSTLY ,, ONLY GOOD WORK ETHIC REQUIRED AND ALL WINGERS CAN LEAVE AT ANYTIME!!! 😂😂 It’s hard work. They get paid a lot of money and go on to expand their careers through it. If the (pretend) celebs could really understand what a professional dancer’s life entails??? Anyway it’s a show! Did the ratings drop last year 😂😂
@@juliewillard1367 how do we decide where bullying begins and ends? It is a difficult question. Giovanni is Italian, they are generally louder, more forward and perhaps more verbally uh...direct than Brits. Is this miscommunication? Anyway, I don't think Amanda should be giving these vague interviews and prejudicing people against Giovanni, before the investigation concludes. If there is something he has done and should be held accountable for, she should be decent and wait until the investigation finishes and finds in her favour.
I cannot believe the lack of compassion in this comments section. With the training sessions filmed in full, the truth will out. She is obviously not allowed to talk about details while investigation is going on but it's stuff like this, that is obviously very public, that makes you realise why a whole lot of people just dare not speak out or report various forms of abuse and misconduct in a variety of work place an private settings due to the amount of ridicule and abuse the not so Great British Public and media will throw at you.
There is filmed proof of all the training sessions, why is this being made so difficult. With proof it is either true or not true. All the training sessions are filmed throughout.
The professionals need to realise that they need to to teach their celeb partners and go through all the routines without over doing it and going over the top, they need to calm it down a little. Apart from strictly, its a well known fact that some professional dancers do actually verbally and physically abuse their partners from the need to be the best, of that there is no doubt.
What is overdoing it or going over the top? Many of the celebrities were sports figures and actors. I know how demanding both training programs are. Did they consider that abuse?
Yes my daughter studied performing arts. The teachers are super professional and they have limited time to do so much with many untrained individuals. Dancing is tough on that level
Dancing is a sport, like all sports there is a risk of injury. There are plenty of contestants that never do lifts because they don’t feel comfortable.
How easily people leap to roast the people who have spoken up, which is probably one of the reasons they didn’t speak up sooner. Have we forgotten the BBC’s form for turning a blind eye, chasing ratings over treating staff and participants at least fairly?
When I attended a ballet class as a young girl my teacher would kick my feet to put them in the right position . What it did for me was to quickly learn how to position my feet the right way. This was over 60 years ago. It was a lesson learned and now in my seventies I still remember all the correct positions. Thank you Miss Rivers you taught me well. 🥰
This is getting silly, what next!! Maybe the BBC Bosses should STOP putting pressure on the Professional Dancer, and the Case against Giovanni sounds like Sour Grapes!
It’s not sour grapes Professional dancers, whose sole job function is to teach/coach inexperienced or complete beginners, amateurs, how to ballroom dance, are not exempt from conducting themselves in a professional manner, in the workplace, at all times, en off! ,
There’s 50hrs of footage that the BBC are refusing to release to Amanda’s solicitor, if there’s nothing to hide they should let them have it, so suggests more than mere sour grapes at play!
Not really. BBC have a reputation for sweeping stuff under the carpet, so it’s understandable why people don’t see the point, or it’s too difficult at the time but do so.
All these guys are perfectionists and are there to win. The show has become too competitive. However l don't think any of the pros should lose their job. The ladies were well paid for taking part and they got some exposure.
what wimps what do they expect it is very hard work to learn to the level for the show why are they doing this now the dancers them selves get injuries why are these so called celebs trying to ruin the dancers and the show hundreds have done programme with no problem over 20 years sick of these people that jump on the band wagon in cases like this as for the Amanda one saying she has PTSD because of the programme seriously she probably felt better once she got paid shameful really good luck to the dancers
I bet Bruce Forsyth is turning in his grave of what is going on with Strictly but I don’t think the professional dancers have done anything wrong at all. I think it’s the celebrities are at wrong as why hasn’t all of this come out before from past celebrities I don’t get it. Sorry if the celebrities don’t like hard work when it comes to Strictly then don’t do it. I would love all the professionals dancers to take a stand and say they are not doing the show is protest as this is wrong. I bet you anything this is because the celebrities asked out their professional dancers and they rejected them.
With all this Publicity Amanda will hAve a huge audience at her new play, and loads publicity for new play! Don't think she's very popular with Trans People though!!
I can't stand people on here saying what they think, their opinion, when we have absolutely no idea what happens in any of the dance lessons. Can not stand the BBC
For goodness sake these are professional dancers who have worked hard all there lives to get where they are, through hard work and commitment. These so called celebrities haven’t done a decent days work in their lives. If they don’t like being told how to dance don’t go on the show, oh just a minute, course they will go on for the money. Sick of listening to these snowflakes.
Amanda didn’t even complete the show! she pulled out and left it early which implies that she had something going on at the time. Therefore she can’t make a formal allegation against Giovanni unless it was because of him
Dance is a discipline, how many other snowflakes are going to jump on the bandwagon. If you don’t want to be good dancer that is up to the celebrities don’t go on the program
Finally, I am never going to be torchured by this insufferable programme ever again. Terrrible show, dancers who take it too seriously and presenters that cannot present to save themselves.
Hard work gets great results. I was sad when Amanda gave up because I thought she and Giovanni had a good chance of winning. The people who are not able to much effort into practising used , in the main, to be partnered with Anton. Yes they liked him but he has been known to sneer about them and they were made fun of by audiences. If dancers and choreographers like Giovanni leave the programme it won't really be worth watching.
He might be back Giovanni Pernice, Might let him sit in the audience if he's luck or most likely, emoty all the bins, cos he aint getting on the dance floor again. Not just one female celeb coming out but 2 to 3 others. They can't all be wrong surely?
@@stephmmcbride9197 Ah, and they both went to the same place of learning (Or hard knocks). You can never tell what ppl are like, as I thought all the years I saw him on the show, he was really nice, but obviously only to ones he took to. That shows not only a Narcasistic personality, but a sinister mind.
I blame the BBC...they are use to covering things up&hush hush....the celebrity's are professionals at what they do..they want the best..BUT...if the person isn't up for strickness&pushyness then maybe say no...but also some of the professionals may need to be a little kinder¬ use slurring words in my opinion 🤷 Just don't do it if your not up for some criticism&pushyness...🫡🫶❤️
I bet Bruce Forsyth is turning in his grave of what is going on with Strictly but I don’t think the professional dancers have done anything wrong at all. I think it’s the celebrities are at wrong as why hasn’t all of this come out before from past celebrities I don’t get it. Sorry if the celebrities don’t like hard work when it comes to Strictly then don’t do it. I would love all the professionals dancers to take a stand and say they are not doing the show is protest as this is wrong. I bet you anything this is because the celebrities asked out their professional dancers and they rejected them.
FFS, what is wrong with people. Of course contestants expect the experience to be brutal if they've never danced before. That's not the issue. The issue is when does pushing people to do their best turn into abuse. Nobody signs up for abuse.
Exactly. Some of these comments from people who don’t know the difference between hardwork and abuse!
Define “abuse.”
@@Outlier2024 Buy a dictionary.
Gio was cleared as expected. Lazy Amanda should be ashamed of herself...
I think I remember when Strictly was newish, the professional dancers didn’t comment much AT ALL!!
The celebrities were “The Stars” That has all changed and the pros are just as big as the celebrities. Put health warnings out to celebs. REQUIRED
A) athletic mindset. B) advance my career mindset.. C) Help, I love it but I can’t really dance.. D) DOES ANYONE KNOW ME?
… E)MOSTLY ,, ONLY GOOD WORK ETHIC REQUIRED AND ALL WINGERS CAN LEAVE AT ANYTIME!!! 😂😂
It’s hard work. They get paid a lot of money and go on to expand their careers through it. If the (pretend) celebs could really understand what a professional dancer’s life entails??? Anyway it’s a show! Did the ratings drop last year 😂😂
Has any of the winners come out with accusations of abuse. Surely the celebrities who enter know it's not a walk in the park. 😢
There is a difference between hardwork and bullying somebody because you want to lift that glitterball so much!
@@juliewillard1367 how do we decide where bullying begins and ends? It is a difficult question. Giovanni is Italian, they are generally louder, more forward and perhaps more verbally uh...direct than Brits. Is this miscommunication?
Anyway, I don't think Amanda should be giving these vague interviews and prejudicing people against Giovanni, before the investigation concludes. If there is something he has done and should be held accountable for, she should be decent and wait until the investigation finishes and finds in her favour.
I cannot believe the lack of compassion in this comments section. With the training sessions filmed in full, the truth will out. She is obviously not allowed to talk about details while investigation is going on but it's stuff like this, that is obviously very public, that makes you realise why a whole lot of people just dare not speak out or report various forms of abuse and misconduct in a variety of work place an private settings due to the amount of ridicule and abuse the not so Great British Public and media will throw at you.
There is filmed proof of all the training sessions, why is this being made so difficult. With proof it is either true or not true. All the training sessions are filmed throughout.
It's physical and mental, if you can't hack it don't sign up for it, simples, ask Rose if she agrees !!!
denial
I don’t trust Rose 🌹 anymore.
The professionals need to realise that they need to to teach their celeb partners and go through all the routines without over doing it and going over the top, they need to calm it down a little. Apart from strictly, its a well known fact that some professional dancers do actually verbally and physically abuse their partners from the need to be the best, of that there is no doubt.
What is overdoing it or going over the top? Many of the celebrities were sports figures and actors. I know how demanding both training programs are. Did they consider that abuse?
For God's sake they aren't signing up to do a cake baking class of course people are going to be injured!
Yes my daughter studied performing arts. The teachers are super professional and they have limited time to do so much with many untrained individuals. Dancing is tough on that level
Dancing is a sport, like all sports there is a risk of injury. There are plenty of contestants that never do lifts because they don’t feel comfortable.
BBC covered for for Jimmy Saville
If they’re coming for jannete now, then sorry, the people who brought up the issues can’t handle criticism clearly
These z lists are chasing the money..
How easily people leap to roast the people who have spoken up, which is probably one of the reasons they didn’t speak up sooner. Have we forgotten the BBC’s form for turning a blind eye, chasing ratings over treating staff and participants at least fairly?
When I attended a ballet class as a young girl my teacher would kick my feet to put them in the right position . What it did for me was to quickly learn how to position my feet the right way. This was over 60 years ago. It was a lesson learned and now in my seventies I still remember all the correct positions. Thank you Miss Rivers you taught me well. 🥰
This is getting silly, what next!! Maybe the BBC Bosses should STOP putting pressure on the Professional Dancer, and the Case against Giovanni sounds like Sour Grapes!
It’s not sour grapes
Professional dancers, whose sole job function is to teach/coach inexperienced or complete beginners, amateurs, how to ballroom dance, are not exempt from conducting themselves in a professional manner, in the workplace, at all times, en off! ,
There’s 50hrs of footage that the BBC are refusing to release to Amanda’s solicitor, if there’s nothing to hide they should let them have it, so suggests more than mere sour grapes at play!
@@TIL8OR9l am a fan of SCD and it would be a shame if it ceases to
It’s ridiculous with people coming out now from 16 years ago!!!
Wonder if you'd have those views if it wasn't a man.
Jeanette Manrara is the latest victim
Getting a bit worried as strictly comes back in Autumn ax well supposed to 😢
It is never too late to tell the truth
Not really. BBC have a reputation for sweeping stuff under the carpet, so it’s understandable why people don’t see the point, or it’s too difficult at the time but do so.
Well she’s not the only one so let’s hope it’s true not somebody trying to ruin somebody because they didn’t find them attractive
All these people were well paid to train for this and entertain the public .now coming forward to complain I wonder why ?? Greedy guts want more money
50 hrs of abuse that's not going to be shown...
The truth is coming!!
All these guys are perfectionists and are there to win. The show has become too competitive. However l don't think any of the pros should lose their job. The ladies were well paid for taking part and they got some exposure.
and being paid means you can be kicked, spit on , humiliated and abused..? Seriously?
@@rosierosie62 why not leave or complain there and then to the BBC, not in some cases years later.
Maybe people should wake up to the fact there is a lot of abuse out there. It's very disturbing the way some men act nowadays
what wimps what do they expect it is very hard work to learn to the level for the show why are they doing this now the dancers them selves get injuries why are these so called celebs trying to ruin the dancers and the show hundreds have done programme with no problem over 20 years sick of these people that jump on the band wagon in cases like this as for the Amanda one saying she has PTSD because of the programme seriously she probably felt better once she got paid shameful really good luck to the dancers
They're probably not expecting to be abused...
she didn't say it. A qualified doctor diagnosed it.
Someone got kicked by their professional dancer. That’s not ok. It’s a job, they shouldn’t face abuse
@@dianecameron137 I think there is more to this, that Amanda and her Husband are not saying??
Why did they wait so long and way not leave the show (because they wanted the money )😮😮😮😮
This sounds like somebody's having a hissyfit
I'm sure if the ones that are complaining had actually won nothing would of been said. The woke brigade is everywhere.
Strictly will finish if they keeping all professionals in check. They hard working people do if they don’t like it why do it???
Shame on Strictly Management sort it out
Not saying anything but these pros are pros for a reason, theyre trained vigorously and how they get results. Past that.. idk
The guys are perfectionists , to do something so well you have to strive hard . It’s the best wholesome tv show . Iconic
I hope strictly has learnt it's lesson don't book any more snowflakes or Influenza's
Money money money it’s a rich man’s world
When it started people weren't great but they got better. Don't put pressure on them to be great to start with. Go back to the older ways.
Ok, moving forward how much settlement Amanda and Zara will get 😂😅
I bet Bruce Forsyth is turning in his grave of what is going on with Strictly but I don’t think the professional dancers have done anything wrong at all. I think it’s the celebrities are at wrong as why hasn’t all of this come out before from past celebrities I don’t get it. Sorry if the celebrities don’t like hard work when it comes to Strictly then don’t do it. I would love all the professionals dancers to take a stand and say they are not doing the show is protest as this is wrong. I bet you anything this is because the celebrities asked out their professional dancers and they rejected them.
Can we not refer to this is a scandal....
Don’t take part in a programme that requires hard work, dedication and commitment if you are a delicate snowflake. Also leave if you can’t handle it.
Not nice to call someone you don't know a snowflake
@@stephmmcbride9197 grow up.
With all this Publicity Amanda will hAve a huge audience at her new play, and loads publicity for new play!
Don't think she's very popular with Trans People though!!
I can't stand people on here saying what they think, their opinion, when we have absolutely no idea what happens in any of the dance lessons. Can not stand the BBC
FFS it's a competition, of course they are being pushed so they don't look like complete tools on the live show. People really REALLY need to grow up
For goodness sake these are professional dancers who have worked hard all there lives to get where they are, through hard work and commitment. These so called celebrities haven’t done a decent days work in their lives. If they don’t like being told how to dance don’t go on the show, oh just a minute, course they will go on for the money. Sick of listening to these snowflakes.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Same
Nobody is forcing you to listen to this, you still did.
@@rosierosie62 nobody forced me too listen, I’m just sick of seeing, so there
Believe Amanda 100%
what did he say?
He called her a madwoman. And I think that says everything of his character
@@Nushka23 maybe she is?
Amanda didn’t even complete the show! she pulled out and left it early which implies that she had something going on at the time. Therefore she can’t make a formal allegation against Giovanni unless it was because of him
Wrong. She pulled out for medical reasons, that is documented.
She has said it was because of the bullying.
Yes it is finished owing to the snow flakes taking part . Congratulations Amanda
Dance is a discipline, how many other snowflakes are going to jump on the bandwagon. If you don’t want to be good dancer that is up to the celebrities don’t go on the program
Strickly is finished...RIP
Why won’t the BBC axe Strictly Come Dancing.
It's past it's best time it was axed
Strictly is amazing! Regardless… hence why it’s been on tv for 20 years!! 🎉🎉
It's dancing - touching is compulsory...
Just goes to show what pampered pretentious princesses who are they anyway people scared by a bunch of ballroom dancers none NEWS
Why don’t the bbc release the footage it would put an end to it one way or another
Finally, I am never going to be torchured by this insufferable programme ever again. Terrrible show, dancers who take it too seriously and presenters that cannot present to save themselves.
Amanda is a drama queen, she has
They need to leave strictly come dancing alone
They said that about Saville too. 😮
Too many ❄️ snowflakes ❄️
Lorraine looks different
Hard work gets great results. I was sad when Amanda gave up because I thought she and Giovanni had a good chance of winning.
The people who are not able to much effort into practising used , in the main, to be partnered with Anton. Yes they liked him but he has been known to sneer about them and they were made fun of by audiences. If dancers and choreographers like Giovanni leave the programme it won't really be worth watching.
STAY STRONG GIOVANNI
He might be back Giovanni Pernice, Might let him sit in the audience if he's luck or most likely, emoty all the bins, cos he aint getting on the dance floor again. Not just one female celeb coming out but 2 to 3 others. They can't all be wrong surely?
Out for what they can get mmmmmmmm
He is probably a chovonist unfortunately a lot of medraian men are in my experience as I've worked with quite a few but unfortunately
@@stephmmcbride9197 Ah, and they both went to the same place of learning (Or hard knocks). You can never tell what ppl are like, as I thought all the years I saw him on the show, he was really nice, but obviously only to ones he took to. That shows not only a Narcasistic personality, but a sinister mind.
@@robedwards6096 Maybe thats how you go about your life, but not all ppl are like that.
@@gaskellr44 yeah definitely he seems kind of arrogant underneath the visad
Go woke go broke
Hah the BBC kings of cover up!
Bullying is wrong. Strictly dancing should be axed immediately. Bring back come dancing.
I don't believe it for a second. That nobody is looking for a payout!
I blame the BBC...they are use to covering things up&hush hush....the celebrity's are professionals at what they do..they want the best..BUT...if the person isn't up for strickness&pushyness then maybe say no...but also some of the professionals may need to be a little kinder¬ use slurring words in my opinion 🤷
Just don't do it if your not up for some criticism&pushyness...🫡🫶❤️
I bet Bruce Forsyth is turning in his grave of what is going on with Strictly but I don’t think the professional dancers have done anything wrong at all. I think it’s the celebrities are at wrong as why hasn’t all of this come out before from past celebrities I don’t get it. Sorry if the celebrities don’t like hard work when it comes to Strictly then don’t do it. I would love all the professionals dancers to take a stand and say they are not doing the show is protest as this is wrong. I bet you anything this is because the celebrities asked out their professional dancers and they rejected them.