i have a copy of that book you wrote 30 or 40 years ago. that book was a gift from my mother in law. and the begining of me getting hooked on bonsai trees..thank you peter, you are amazing.
Imagine the face of the owner when he comes in to collect this tree 😂 Like growing your hair out and then asking the barber to take a little off the top and you walk out back where you were a few months ago, except this is 20 years! 😆 Can't help but laugh. But I know it's necessary and better for the longer term. Just funny when you see something pruned back so much. Keep the vids coming, I love this channel
I think this shows at best a desensitisation to the hard work, and decades of training of previous owners, and at worst a lack of respect for the previous owners hard work. It's like drawing glasses on a portrait or putting a big spoiler on a classic car.
you have no idea what are you talkin, the tree was a mess only the tachiagari were interesting the rest just a chaos of branches without movement just a garden plant in a pot not a bonsai now it can became a real bonsai
I learn so much from your conversation as you speak out loud while creating your work of art. Experience and innate sense of instinct can perhaps be learned over time, but I do believe that those who become masters of any craft have that inbred something that sets their work above others. For those not possessing such qualities, they can admire and even understand the eventual outcome, but the process of getting there lies only in the genius of such a mind that is naturally given to the understanding of what actions are necessary in order to arrive at a chosen destination. As you said, there are many ways to achieve a beautiful piece, but one has to be able to calculate the right cuts, wiring, etc. in order to achieve a satisfactory result.
The last video I watched from Herons: "I never call a tree ugly or wrong or bad" This video: "This is really ugly. There is a triple fork, it is very very ugly" I kinda liked the tree from the beginning. Guess thats why you are the master and I am a bloody beginner :D
i think this is the only video where i dont agree with him removing that much of the tree.. so much material to work with at first, and in the end just looks like any other bonsai
The comments are quite illustrative. People are timid, they're afraid to use the tree as raw material for human art. If you were to chop down a tree and saw it into logs, and then carve the logs, the same people would see nothing wrong with drastic carving on these blocks of wood. And yet when the tree is not killed, but kept alive, they're very unhappy for the tree. It seems rather backwards. This shows why a great bonsai artist like Peter Chan is so rare, even though so many people try. Bonsai cannot be done only by repeating what is natural for humans. Enjoying the end result, which is years away for this tree, is much easier. But the thought process that you have to use to get there is rather sophisticated, and you have to respect and trust some of the traditional knowledge, while also having your own creative vision. That balance is hard for most people, they either want to do it entirely their own way, or follow traditional narrowly in a boring way.
Butchering something is not automatically 'art', wanting to preserve something interesting is not automatically 'timid', and even a 'great bonsai artist like Peter Chan' can make mistakes and is not infallible.
@@patbassman8251 And the trunk would look smaller. He used the "bag trick" to cover the part he was removing and see how it would look without that part, so from your comment perhaps you were watching while distracted? As he explains, the long branch is very straight, which is not desirable. So another 20 years wouldn't fix it. It would have had to be trained properly during the 20 years that you're concerned about. The mistake of leaving it too straight can't be undone with time, but if you buy that tree and want it to be a semi-cascade with 20 years of growth, you can simple start growing it laterally again, and properly wire it to have a desirable shape for a semi-cascade tree.
@@G-G._ It had character and looked interesting, irrespective of what it was and whether bonsai purists would classify it as this or that. In the end he just butchered it and turned it into something boring and generic.
@@AGH331 grow your own then. customer took it to him for a reason. if he wanted to pussy foot and trim a little. he would have done it himself. anyone can trim. takes a master to see 40 years into the life of a tree
Honestly, I liked it both ways. I tend to like shaggy, dense looking tress as it is (just my personal preference). But the end result defiantly looks well on its way to something beautiful as well.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and artistry! I have often thought of bonsai and only now at 60+ years I am settled enough to enjoy the pursuit. I’ve now watched three of your videos, liked, and subscribed. I now will watch and learn more as I keep an eye out for a beginning. Again, thank you for sharing your art and love. Regards...
In another video of a tree rework the owner was present off camera. Or maybe partway through filming he phones the customer to double check, or they sign a waiver giving full creative control to Peter. Ultimately the trees are there to be improved for the long term and cutting large parts away is just the normal process of producing bonsai
Bold moves. My front would have been another 1/4 turn clockwise. You end up with half of the carving out of frame but there is good movement, and there is a space in the lobe that you can see through. It was thrilling to witness how fearlessly you tackle the subject. I really wish I could see all these trees as the mature.
@@tacocheif429 I suggest you read more about Deadwood techniques applied to bonsai. Jin is a dead branch which has turned a grayish-whiteish color, and it's indicative of age and survival of a tree throughout the years.
Herons Wisdom: “I don’t think there is any right or wrong. Every solution would turn out quite acceptable to the person who is doing the tree up. More importantly the person who owns the tree.” Thank you
The end result is typical yet beautiful.The challenge should have been giving it a cascading shape. This was taking the easy way out and a similar look like any othe bonsai. I thought the original shape was also very good one for cascade
Hi, thanks for your video. Can I ask what you would of done to keep the branch that your originally cut, in place? I noticed you sawed it to be able to bend it. Won't that damage the tree? or how does the branch heal? It will be great to know. Many Thanks!
Great video Peter once again. Your out loud thought process is great. This tree as is would looked good cascading over a Koi pond but as a bonsai it wasn't working.I would of chosen your new design as well.
Thank you for the lesson. I am new to bonsai, but am very excited with my new venture. I find your videos extremely informative and insightful. I hang off of every word you say, to begin to understand the spirit of bonsai so I can bring this form of beauty into my own life and home. I have learned so much from you already in the handful of your videos I have watched and very much look forward to learning more from you. I bow my head with gratitude.
I’ve seen you crack branches a couple of times to bend them, but no real discussion about the practice. Can you do a video on this regarding when, how, species, techniques?
I love this channel and respect your knowledge. But my goodness I could never have cut 20 years off that tree. It is still beautiful in the end. I'm merely saying your balls are far bigger than mine.
I'm wondering if this could be used in a penjing? A long oval pot with the tree planted at one end overhanging a display of rocks, moss, and maybe several other small plants.
I am rewatching this recording for a third time,. the strategy of the intervention confirms the character of the trunk, and as such it is a strong new beginning for the aesthetics of the tree. But I was wondering, would it have been an option to keep one of the branches of the trident, and use one of the earlier branches as a lead 'up', to suggest a triangle, with one heavy weight to the left? Or does a yew tree grow too slow for this? I know a yew tree grows new leaves and branches on trunks, but possibly, these would have needed too long a growth period to create such an alternative..
Every person on this channel needs to report Katherine McChesney for the unwarranted harassment of people who make critical comments about Peter. We dont need that type of language in this hobby or on this channel.
Interesting solution. I think I would have kept the semi-cascade and wired the branches into pads, but there are a lot of different ways to get a good result.
A shaggy dog.... Now clipped to resemble a poodle 😊. A few notches in the thick branch would have made it to cascade with the ade of raffia and thick wire. That could have been a solution.
I do not know how flexible yew, with junipers, this trick would have passed. Most likely it would take the removal of a part of the trunk so that it becomes hollow inside. And make shari. Perhaps the master didn't take risks.
Hello Peter: This will be a great bonsai tree in years to come. Just one question could you have use a trunk spilter too put more bends in the trunk to use all the growth this man did? Sorry I just love the Pot it is a sexy style. I working on a Juniper Shimpaku that has multi branches and bending them together to have one nice trunk. Take Care Peter and God Bless
So you can make major cuts and root pruning in winter. What kind of conditions is the tree going to be kept under while it recovers through the winter?
Can you root cuttings and airlayer well established yew bushes I have 2 hedge for we planted 41 years ago. (Nursery stock in 1/2 or 1 gallon pots) we planted along the front of the property at the sidewalk on both sides of the driveway. We groomed am trimmed back over the years. They need a major pruning and topping this year. I'd love it if I could take some we pune and start to bonsai it.
Mark Sunshine , by all means give it a try. I myself have an old Irish yew that will have to be removed because of house renovations so I am going to take cutting. I have read this is the right season www.ehow.com/info_12199105_procedure-rooting-yew-cuttings.html
How do I know if my tree is a yew or a bald cypress? I got a young pre bonsai that's wasn't labeled at my local nursery and I can't tell what the little guy is
The man is a mathematician. Looking at the tree from the beginning, for me, I would think "what a mess". I'm a rookie but the point he made in the beginning that to shorten the spread of the tree would highlight the trunk and therefore make the tree look ancient hit home for me..Later, I'm sure he would remove bark and carve from the point where he cracked the tree and that would add tons of character..
The owner wanting a restyle. And Well that was a different Style. I wouldnt Tell Peter to restyle my bonsai If i am Not prepared to get Them Back With dramatic Change :) Its Like going to a hairdresser saying "do what u want" and than later be surprised when your new Look is totally different From the old :)
are all yews toxic? i have this yew i uprooted from my neighbors and planning to make a bonsai out of the stump but I just learned that yews are toxic..
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I would have loved to see the owners face when came to pick it up.
I would have shat myself
I would love to see an update for this tree. That was such a radical change and I really wonder how it developed.
You want a cascade tree? *Snip snip* No you don't. You want a tiny tree that stands straight up. 😂😂😂
You know you're in for a surprise when Peter says: "...that is ONE option..."
I was reding this the exact moment he said that! 😱
I like to pretend the tree is normal size and the guy is really big
how silly.
@@TheresaPowersand fun lol
This brings me so much joy
Isn't that the case?
It would be fun if Peter started his every video with "Fee Fa Fo Fum, here I style another one"
❤️
i have a copy of that book you wrote 30 or 40 years ago. that book was a gift from my mother in law. and the begining of me getting hooked on bonsai trees..thank you peter, you are amazing.
The owner asked for a restyle. What Peter did here is exactly that. I can see in years to come this will develop nicely. Art is subjective.
Imagine the face of the owner when he comes in to collect this tree 😂 Like growing your hair out and then asking the barber to take a little off the top and you walk out back where you were a few months ago, except this is 20 years! 😆 Can't help but laugh. But I know it's necessary and better for the longer term. Just funny when you see something pruned back so much. Keep the vids coming, I love this channel
I think this shows at best a desensitisation to the hard work, and decades of training of previous owners, and at worst a lack of respect for the previous owners hard work. It's like drawing glasses on a portrait or putting a big spoiler on a classic car.
@@TomTomTomTom538
You think the previous owner put in a lot of hard work?
you have no idea what are you talkin, the tree was a mess only the tachiagari were interesting the rest just a chaos of branches without movement just a garden plant in a pot not a bonsai now it can became a real bonsai
Oh God Im cracking up
Crazy bonsai......make me crazy !!!
I learn so much from your conversation as you speak out loud while creating your work of art. Experience and innate sense of instinct can perhaps be learned over time, but I do believe that those who become masters of any craft have that inbred something that sets their work above others. For those not possessing such qualities, they can admire and even understand the eventual outcome, but the process of getting there lies only in the genius of such a mind that is naturally given to the understanding of what actions are necessary in order to arrive at a chosen destination. As you said, there are many ways to achieve a beautiful piece, but one has to be able to calculate the right cuts, wiring, etc. in order to achieve a satisfactory result.
And he’s easily looking ahead 20+ years into the future of the tree.
It looked to me like he just wanted to bang it out and fooked up along the way .
The last video I watched from Herons: "I never call a tree ugly or wrong or bad"
This video: "This is really ugly. There is a triple fork, it is very very ugly"
I kinda liked the tree from the beginning. Guess thats why you are the master and I am a bloody beginner :D
i think this is the only video where i dont agree with him removing that much of the tree.. so much material to work with at first, and in the end just looks like any other bonsai
The comments are quite illustrative. People are timid, they're afraid to use the tree as raw material for human art.
If you were to chop down a tree and saw it into logs, and then carve the logs, the same people would see nothing wrong with drastic carving on these blocks of wood. And yet when the tree is not killed, but kept alive, they're very unhappy for the tree. It seems rather backwards.
This shows why a great bonsai artist like Peter Chan is so rare, even though so many people try. Bonsai cannot be done only by repeating what is natural for humans. Enjoying the end result, which is years away for this tree, is much easier. But the thought process that you have to use to get there is rather sophisticated, and you have to respect and trust some of the traditional knowledge, while also having your own creative vision. That balance is hard for most people, they either want to do it entirely their own way, or follow traditional narrowly in a boring way.
Butchering something is not automatically 'art', wanting to preserve something interesting is not automatically 'timid', and even a 'great bonsai artist like Peter Chan' can make mistakes and is not infallible.
It seemed like he couldn't be bothered and cut off 20 years work in one second , he could of made three pads and still kept the long branch .
@@patbassman8251 And the trunk would look smaller. He used the "bag trick" to cover the part he was removing and see how it would look without that part, so from your comment perhaps you were watching while distracted? As he explains, the long branch is very straight, which is not desirable. So another 20 years wouldn't fix it. It would have had to be trained properly during the 20 years that you're concerned about. The mistake of leaving it too straight can't be undone with time, but if you buy that tree and want it to be a semi-cascade with 20 years of growth, you can simple start growing it laterally again, and properly wire it to have a desirable shape for a semi-cascade tree.
I'm surprised at the people complaining about the transformation. The tree wasn't grown right to look good as a cascade.
This is one time, I think he trimmed it back to much. I like the longer branch as a cascading tree.
We Are Many your so right
incorrect. you have short term vision. if he wants a cascading tree. grow one. this one wasn't a cascading tree.
@@G-G._ It had character and looked interesting, irrespective of what it was and whether bonsai purists would classify it as this or that. In the end he just butchered it and turned it into something boring and generic.
@@AGH331 grow your own then. customer took it to him for a reason. if he wanted to pussy foot and trim a little. he would have done it himself. anyone can trim. takes a master to see 40 years into the life of a tree
it looked ugly to me it looks so much better with that branch gone now more like a bonsai
Honestly, I liked it both ways. I tend to like shaggy, dense looking tress as it is (just my personal preference). But the end result defiantly looks well on its way to something beautiful as well.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and artistry!
I have often thought of bonsai and only now at 60+ years I am settled enough to enjoy the pursuit.
I’ve now watched three of your videos, liked, and subscribed. I now will watch and learn more as I keep an eye out for a beginning.
Again, thank you for sharing your art and love.
Regards...
Omg. I’d like to see the owner’s face when he picked up his tree.😂
In another video of a tree rework the owner was present off camera. Or maybe partway through filming he phones the customer to double check, or they sign a waiver giving full creative control to Peter. Ultimately the trees are there to be improved for the long term and cutting large parts away is just the normal process of producing bonsai
@@katcoe1079 oh wow a comment that makes sense
...from a bush to a bonsai.....you're a genius
He's definately 60 woodcutting
Bold moves.
My front would have been another 1/4 turn clockwise.
You end up with half of the carving out of frame but there is good movement, and there is a space in the lobe that you can see through.
It was thrilling to witness how fearlessly you tackle the subject.
I really wish I could see all these trees as the mature.
Thanks for the videos, Peter! Really enthused about starting to bonsai more seriously. Cheers!
Amazing to me how Mr. Chan snips a bit and vola, a beautiful bonsai! That's total experience at work!
whouaou. yor inspiration is great, scareless for massive trimming ! Bravo
I had not realised how ugly that branch was until you turned the tree to create the jin. It's like a damn hen's claw.
What's a jin?
@@tacocheif429 I suggest you read more about Deadwood techniques applied to bonsai. Jin is a dead branch which has turned a grayish-whiteish color, and it's indicative of age and survival of a tree throughout the years.
"it is a shaggy dog" This guy is funny and amazing.
“ that’s really ugly , put a bag over its head “ .... sure I’ve heard that used somewhere before 🧐
In an alternate universe Scooby is a homan
Herons Wisdom:
“I don’t think there is any right or wrong. Every solution would turn out quite acceptable to the person who is doing the tree up. More importantly the person who owns the tree.”
Thank you
To live is to risk it all. Love your decisiveness
The end result is typical yet beautiful.The challenge should have been giving it a cascading shape.
This was taking the easy way out and a similar look like any othe bonsai. I thought the original shape was also very good one for cascade
Grandpa, lot of love from INDIA for your curating and bonsai art .....
I always enjoy your videos.
Wow! What an amazing transformation!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Hi, thanks for your video. Can I ask what you would of done to keep the branch that your originally cut, in place? I noticed you sawed it to be able to bend it. Won't that damage the tree? or how does the branch heal? It will be great to know. Many Thanks!
wow, so much better. what a transformation.
Love your "bag trick" at 7:07 in the video! Thank You!
It’s famous
the way you had it sitting at 18:mins i,n is deffo the way id hae to hae it! each to there own its stunning
I feel how you feel about this project. You are still great. Bonsai Bob Ross
Great video
It is a shame we can't get a followup to this to see how it develops after a few months then years
I agree, I'd love to have more follow ups
Fantastic. I love the bag method!
Me too! I Use it on my wife tonight for valentines day! Works great!
Great video Peter once again. Your out loud thought process is great. This tree as is would looked good cascading over a Koi pond but as a bonsai it wasn't working.I would of chosen your new design as well.
Brian Garner , would have.
Beautiful work.
Thank you for the lesson. I am new to bonsai, but am very excited with my new venture. I find your videos extremely informative and insightful. I hang off of every word you say, to begin to understand the spirit of bonsai so I can bring this form of beauty into my own life and home. I have learned so much from you already in the handful of your videos I have watched and very much look forward to learning more from you. I bow my head with gratitude.
Happy little trees!
I’ve seen you crack branches a couple of times to bend them, but no real discussion about the practice. Can you do a video on this regarding when, how, species, techniques?
I love this channel and respect your knowledge. But my goodness I could never have cut 20 years off that tree. It is still beautiful in the end. I'm merely saying your balls are far bigger than mine.
I watched this just for "The famous bag trick" Thanks for all your vids :)
Very nice video! I like the approach!
Thank you for good audio again.
Happy New Year's.
owner will be shitting a brick the now hahaha!!! but looking fantastic
Thanks Peter. I’ll try the bag trick on my wife!!
Gotta trust! Its total restyle!
Great job Peter!
You turned that shaggy pot plant into a compact and dramatic bonsai.
I'm wondering if this could be used in a penjing? A long oval pot with the tree planted at one end overhanging a display of rocks, moss, and maybe several other small plants.
The off cuts can be used to make tiny longbows that would suit a borrower, or gnome. The trick is to have the denser dark wood on the inside.
These demonstration videos are superb
I am rewatching this recording for a third time,. the strategy of the intervention confirms the character of the trunk, and as such it is a strong new beginning for the aesthetics of the tree. But I was wondering, would it have been an option to keep one of the branches of the trident, and use one of the earlier branches as a lead 'up', to suggest a triangle, with one heavy weight to the left? Or does a yew tree grow too slow for this? I know a yew tree grows new leaves and branches on trunks, but possibly, these would have needed too long a growth period to create such an alternative..
Every person on this channel needs to report Katherine McChesney for the unwarranted harassment of people who make critical comments about Peter. We dont need that type of language in this hobby or on this channel.
you are really great i think i have seen all your video
Fantastic. What a master
Interesting solution. I think I would have kept the semi-cascade and wired the branches into pads, but there are a lot of different ways to get a good result.
the branches were too thick and stright without movement or character this style its better in the long run
😂 he fucked it up
Wow that was scary....but I am amazed at you near final tree, has it developed in the last four months?
A shaggy dog.... Now clipped to resemble a poodle 😊. A few notches in the thick branch would have made it to cascade with the ade of raffia and thick wire. That could have been a solution.
I do not know how flexible yew, with junipers, this trick would have passed. Most likely it would take the removal of a part of the trunk so that it becomes hollow inside. And make shari. Perhaps the master didn't take risks.
I would love to see this tree after a couple of years,
i love the bag trick
before, it looked like a tree with a wig... or these microfabre mops
Hello Peter: This will be a great bonsai tree in years to come. Just one question could you have use a trunk spilter too put more bends in the trunk to use all the growth this man did? Sorry I just love the Pot it is a sexy style. I working on a Juniper Shimpaku that has multi branches and bending them together to have one nice trunk. Take Care Peter and God Bless
Beautiful
I❤ how you put it "shadgy dog" , so cute , it does look like a bush leaning over one side, I'm sure it's would look good after you fix it .
Damn, that customer got ROASTED
very nice
Damn not a big fan of this one, I can kinda see what the owner was trying to do and this new style is completely different look.
you've got to be bold
So you can make major cuts and root pruning in winter. What kind of conditions is the tree going to be kept under while it recovers through the winter?
I'm wondering the same
Love it!
Can you root cuttings and airlayer well established yew bushes
I have 2 hedge for we planted 41 years ago. (Nursery stock in 1/2 or 1 gallon pots) we planted along the front of the property at the sidewalk on both sides of the driveway.
We groomed am trimmed back over the years. They need a major pruning and topping this year.
I'd love it if I could take some we pune and start to bonsai it.
Mark Sunshine , by all means give it a try. I myself have an old Irish yew that will have to be removed because of house renovations so I am going to take cutting. I have read this is the right season www.ehow.com/info_12199105_procedure-rooting-yew-cuttings.html
The tree position at 10:20 looked interesting for it
Very perfect!
How do I know if my tree is a yew or a bald cypress? I got a young pre bonsai that's wasn't labeled at my local nursery and I can't tell what the little guy is
You out here t'n up Heron!
The man is a mathematician. Looking at the tree from the beginning, for me, I would think "what a mess". I'm a rookie but the point he made in the beginning that to shorten the spread of the tree would highlight the trunk and therefore make the tree look ancient hit home for me..Later, I'm sure he would remove bark and carve from the point where he cracked the tree and that would add tons of character..
I would have liked to have seen the customers reaction after seeing the tree would reduced by 75%
I... would be lying if I said I liked the end result better... I think you should've worked with the vision the owner had in mind, just enhancing it.
You have to take into account Peter's ability to see into the future. He can see how his changes will grow and transform over time.
I have to agree on this, it sure turn out the ugly duckling.
17:35 "At this stage we're not doing any refinement, we're just trying to... guide the branches to grow in the right way."
Incredible
I have 3 50+ year old yews that have been growing in brick planters on my front porch, I wanna do this to them.
As usual, Peter Chan again shows how less is more. Fantastic reshape/styling of the tree. Much improved.
Don’t you worry about giving the owner a heart attack when he first sees it after the renovation?
Yeah, i'm sure the owner wasn;t expecting this!!
The owner wanting a restyle. And Well that was a different Style.
I wouldnt Tell Peter to restyle my bonsai If i am Not prepared to get Them Back With dramatic Change :)
Its Like going to a hairdresser saying "do what u want" and than later be surprised when your new Look is totally different From the old :)
Thats a radical freshen up.
Please, Mr Chan i would love to see this beautiful tree now
thank you
i call it the "exploded green sheep on a stick" :D
Is “toilet brush” a new shape of bonsai ??
short term loss, long term gain
(short team meaning like 10-20 years, but what's that age when bonsai trees can easily live 500+)
You're a scary genius!
Cascade path should of been pursued here.
That much work on top and roots wouldn’t be too much for the health of the tree?
Love the shaggy dogs new haircut! Lol
😂
Mr chan roasting his customers again
are all yews toxic? i have this yew i uprooted from my neighbors and planning to make a bonsai out of the stump but I just learned that yews are toxic..
wee bit hollowed out with lime sulpher shes gonna look the part!
Good stuff