HOW TO SET SHOWER PAN LINER and MORTAR

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  • @StarrTile
    @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    IF THIS HELPED YOU THEN HELP ME HERE
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    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All of it dries in 24 hours, but most of it has to cure about 20 days

    • @jaimevalencia5111
      @jaimevalencia5111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarrTile Got it, thank you! Keep up the good content. Like watching your videos!

    • @Trophybearer
      @Trophybearer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you find the drain is not level at that point then what do you do? Isn’t it too late by that time?

  • @babyjanepad2596
    @babyjanepad2596 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you again! I should be doing my pan tomorrow…..quite nervous but I have learned so much from you! Thank you for being an inspiration!!!!

  • @spotonndiyvids6065
    @spotonndiyvids6065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m watching this and following 100% of your instructions I really appreciate people like you posting useful videos on TH-cam

  • @vancouverrealestate2766
    @vancouverrealestate2766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice job. As you know, no job is perfect but the difference with you is you take your time and try your best and respect the process. Once your generation of trades are gone, it will be chaos in the construction industry

    • @mattprombo9691
      @mattprombo9691 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your time and sharing valuable info.
      I am a transplant to WA state and I can say things are pure chaos due to lack of skill and giving a sh*t.
      Thank you again for showing proper techniques.

  • @Artem_Gratis
    @Artem_Gratis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your videos. I live in a house my wife and I bought from a guy in Georgia that owns his own shower and tub installation company, and the shower in this house is purely aesthetic. The wall they built to accommodate it has a three inch lean from bottom to top. Your videos will come in very handy when I’m demolishing it and rebuilding it in the future. Thanks again.

  • @jameshurd8657
    @jameshurd8657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude..you are a BOSS at your craft!! Watching you makes me feel like I can do it 😉👍

  • @spikechampkart55
    @spikechampkart55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I appreciate great craftsmanship, great detail. I am doing a shower like this, the info is most needed and very useful, thanks!

  • @trentthornton4828
    @trentthornton4828 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks this answered a lot of my questions about why a preslope was done. In all my years Ive never seen a shower that didnt leak eventually. Im going to try your method. Makes since.

  • @mram7715
    @mram7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been watching your vids for a while now. Thank you for them. I was just going to ask, why pre-slope if u waterproof. U managed to squeeze in the answer just before u started. U Sir make too much sense. Some guys just don’t like change.

  • @bxfugitivo
    @bxfugitivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you good sir.. l had a dilemma with a doubt and while watching you work,i realized which part of the process wasnt clicking . 💯💯

  • @justinlocke
    @justinlocke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always enjoy watching your videos. I esp liked this one being so complete start to finish.

  • @happywrench3044
    @happywrench3044 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great to see someone that doesn't preslope. Ive been shieted on for not doing it. I redguard the entire areas before tile so there you go

    • @handyscapersllc
      @handyscapersllc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just because your redguard before tiling does mean your good to go. Pre slope is a fail safe. So no pre slope, no fail safe.

  • @shockracer
    @shockracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the continued uploading, even with people that try to critique your great work!

  • @thomassavage527
    @thomassavage527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the way this guy does it! The rubber liner,plus.

  • @1960jogo
    @1960jogo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I seen different ways to build the shower pan and they build a first one mortar bed with slope before laying down the PVC liner but ,I like to be practical and save time: I like the way you builded this showe, r because ones you installed the PVC liner plus you seal the mortar with red guard ,it will be no problem :good job this is the way I do it , and never have a problem👍

  • @berniebass3575
    @berniebass3575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to do tile when I was young and install panliners like you're doing we used to pre-slope the pan in other words before you put the pan in you slope it so when you go ahead and put the pan in it's already sloped in case you have any problems the water will always go to the drain and put three pieces of tile on the weep holes and then go ahead and mud it up but I guess everybody's different as long as it doesn't leak you're in good shape.

  • @jeffostroff
    @jeffostroff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work as usual Bob!

  • @jacobbrizuela8796
    @jacobbrizuela8796 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work! thanks for sharing your tricks sir!

  • @thomasdalusio2004
    @thomasdalusio2004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your style, nothing unnecessary, no extra drama, i'm sure you get plenty of over achievers in the comment section telling you how you forgot this or you should of that, Well done!The "No Bullshit" method of doing things!

  • @deletedaccount5250
    @deletedaccount5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Bob, the longer the video the better 👊

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will keep that in mind going forward, thanks for watching

  • @simmer-ringJ
    @simmer-ringJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This vid answered my remaining questions... thanks!

  • @gatoborracho4572
    @gatoborracho4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr, your work is very good 👍

  • @TommyLMason
    @TommyLMason 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can only donate a small amount of $, because I live on a fixed income. While going in debt to it, I've been "forced to redo our bathroom. Please advise me on 2 things. What about your weep holes in this video? Just to be clear for me, you Redgard the mortar? Finally, I'm using a Quick Pitch and the instructions say I am to set the circular part on top of the flange bolts. So I need to screw the drain cap down a little more to account for that, or just make my mortar bed thicker because of the Quick Pitch? Thanks SO MUCH for putting up some of your craft on TH-cam. Don't quit. I AM like the other commenter who was puzzled as the amount of your followers. Dude, that's just wrong. You are an artist and should have 10 TIMES that amount! 🤳👍

  • @julianzgong
    @julianzgong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is tremendously helpful.

  • @Tmr-yx9yu
    @Tmr-yx9yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are you considering doing more videos like this that show the rest of the shower process? It's very helpful to see the whole process in action from start to finish.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes...I'm realizing that...late bloomer I suppose.

  • @mirjan86
    @mirjan86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. Will try to do same thing in a week

  • @kaboom362
    @kaboom362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music Bob. You make it look easy. Have you got any videos where you install an oatey linear drain?

  • @danpatterson6937
    @danpatterson6937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tutorial is nicely done; your usual good work.
    Three things:
    1. Knee pads
    2. Caulk on screw heads or overkill?
    3. Let's discuss your choice of music during the work session.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks 😁✌👌
      1. Knee pads bind up in back so I had them. I do have a kiddy float I use on flooring work, slides easy and I've had it for 3-4 years for a buck at the dollar store.
      2. Caulk at srew heads overkill. I mud over them and the whole thing is waterproofed. I do caulk the holes I make with ledger boards though.
      3. I had a great track on the working portion until 3 days ago when I got a copyright notification, which basically allowed ads to run and the money from the ads would have gone to the artist.... so I literally deleted the music and put on an ad free TH-cam track...not the best tune but I'll be damned if somebody else gets paid off of my work 😂

  • @deletedaccount5250
    @deletedaccount5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your taste in music is superb I must admit

  • @arielruiz5654
    @arielruiz5654 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing job!

  • @andersondias4767
    @andersondias4767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cant thank you enough!!

  • @dgar7272
    @dgar7272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically makes no sense to put a liner without a pre-slope. If there is a leak ( that’s why you put a liner in first place) water will sink down to the liner and just stay there and accumulate and will eventually rise to the tile . It ll never dry up and grout will come off tiles will give off. It just doesn’t make sense from your generally impeccable work ethics. But everything else on this video is Very educational and well thought of and crafted as usual! Thank you.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't believe that a pre-slope works as intended because wicking action with plus 200 lb and mortar will ensure that your pan is wet all the time, that being said nobody does water and water out anymore, surface of the mortar is waterproof which makes the pre-slope a moot and Antiquated issue, but thanks for the comment

  • @louisbattaglio3872
    @louisbattaglio3872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE your videos and thank you. it looks like you have either mortar, silicone or glue under the drain attached to the floor. IS that correct?

  • @darrenhouliston229
    @darrenhouliston229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing this video! It was very helpful for me. One question, should the drain be able to turn once the mortar has hardened? Thanks!

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely not

  • @hollandwilbanks11
    @hollandwilbanks11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They make a laser level that you said on top of your drain it makes it so much easier

  • @troygriffin3096
    @troygriffin3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, I really love your videos you make great to watch. Was wondering if maybe you could give more technical info. I would love to know stuff like how thick the cement needs to be, how to figure out the height of your drain to start and such info like that. Also would love to see or hear at least the stuff to include the sub floor. I am getting ready to do my own shower pan and that stuff I am trying to find. I find the more info I have the better I feel to start my project.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video should answer most of your questions....
      th-cam.com/video/iys8beUxLvg/w-d-xo.html

  • @ryancoulter7681
    @ryancoulter7681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video 👍! The pan liner though obsolete now looked great in the corners. That was always the biggest mistake I saw when following a plumber. It's code in my area for the plumber to install the liner. I don't know why though lol. I take them out after inspection anyway

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your comment, yeah I heard that plumbers have to install Liners in some jurisdictionsh...but that becomes an issue if there is a leak later on, who does a homeowner blame, the plumber or the tile guy.... I would rather be responsible for the whole thing personally

  • @lubblegarage
    @lubblegarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see you embraced the dry pack . Do you find it more manageable?

  • @LandbergTileTV
    @LandbergTileTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool vid, love the audio tracks! 😎

  • @jimhill6586
    @jimhill6586 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am doing another remodel and have done my own shower pans. I understand why you dont preslope. I do a preslope, then a liner. I know if tiles leak its eventually having issues anyway.
    My extraordinary measure was using an epoxy grout that sealed the floor extra good.
    My new project I will use the largest tiles, then the leak issues are less. The mud bed must be absolute in the tile mud or it will crack. I always pull up tiles to insure adhesion contact on a floor.

  • @liztaylor85139
    @liztaylor85139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your just the best!!!!

  • @10americanpatriot
    @10americanpatriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother you do fine work

  • @gutierrezc8709
    @gutierrezc8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the soundtrack! Hahaha 😀😂🤣

  • @RubenMartinez-og8iq
    @RubenMartinez-og8iq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for your help

  • @stcharleshometheater
    @stcharleshometheater 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do great work!! Do you have a video on installing a linear drain?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I do not, although I have a few videos on linear drain showers , I don't show the process of installing one because they are all built different and all have a different installation method

  • @elmersalmeron4147
    @elmersalmeron4147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job i will do it like that

  • @genesavarino6673
    @genesavarino6673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Thanks for taking the time.. Do you red guard your mortar bed before you thinset?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes....entire shower is waterproof before any tile

    • @mram7715
      @mram7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best advise I ever got from Mr startile was you should be totally confident your shower is 💯% waterproof before installing tile.

    • @BlueOriginAire
      @BlueOriginAire ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarrTile
      that does go a long way in answering all the pre-slope vs. no-pre-slope questions.
      The bed of dry mix you set at a 1" drop per foot. ( that is your slope to the drain on all four sides.)
      Liquid membrane three coats and that rubber skin will last until the new homeowner changes out the outdate tiles.
      Right ??
      All the Walls up To the ceiling should get at least 2 coats of the waterproofing membrane. So, in theory that inside area should be waterpressure proof, if not... hit it with another coat of liquid rubber until it is.
      This is not rocket science, this is common sense at work.
      You are worth your weight in GOLD !!
      No one comes close to your watertight screws and drain area.

  • @jacokri1
    @jacokri1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing how its don

  • @jsilve1
    @jsilve1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos. How high off the mortar is the drain sitting? when the mortar is done, I mean.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roughly half an inch or so, just enough room for thinset and tile and for the tile to set slightly above the edge of the drain

  • @marksmantidwell
    @marksmantidwell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two questions, how deep is your morter is there a depth for code? And if you have a seat in shower does that need covered with liner overlapping your bottom pan?

  • @lillithjones993
    @lillithjones993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy your videos MUCH! How thick do you suggest that the pan should be?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least an inch to 1 1/2" at the drain and then incrementally whatever the quarter inch per foot is to the perimeter

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And by the way, thanks for your donations, much appreciated 👍👌

  • @jessemiller5277
    @jessemiller5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice music choice shaggy

  • @joctanhuenul4530
    @joctanhuenul4530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Job -- :) I send you like..

  • @bert357
    @bert357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like your video but it would be helpful if you gave a running commentary on what you are doing rather than the loud music. The one question I have is what type of calking did you use around the drain flange. Is it normal silicone or is it butyl calking. Thanks for all the information, it’s really helpful.

  • @jessjohn6157
    @jessjohn6157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for video, what type of screws are you using on liner?

  • @zhichen2463
    @zhichen2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good videos, very practical?? I
    understand the way you explain the preslope will not help the situation if there are enough water leaked in. I am wondering if the preslope will help when water leaks in over time? If it does, why don't we build the preslope?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because we waterproof the surface nowadays so it is irrelevant, the mortar will never see any moisture

    • @zhichen2463
      @zhichen2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarrTile That is a good reason. How about in the case where the water seep thru from the bottom that is caused by a clogged drain. So the water get to the bottom of the mud. In this case, will the preslope help to drain any excess water - assuming the whole mud bottom already saturated with the backed up water.
      I understand this scenario does happen often, otherwise, there is a bigger problem need to be deal with, but when this happens, the ability to drain any excessive water will help, I would think.

  • @ThankyouJesus81
    @ThankyouJesus81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir.

  • @Akadamsinc
    @Akadamsinc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Inspectors here in Oregon will fail my pan liners if they are not presloped. You are lucky you don't have to do this extra step makes it easier to install the liner. I also put some kinda of shim on the outside top part of the curb so the liner slopes into the shower area. Looks like it will hold water to me. Might want to protect the sides up the curb wall extra protection never hurts. Would like to see how you do the curb part. Do you use wire mesh over the curb and mud set it?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everybody needs to get off of the whole pre-slope thing because if you waterproof your surface which everyone that I know does, then the pre slope would never kick in any way

    • @Akadamsinc
      @Akadamsinc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be nice. When I do a large shower I got to wait for the preslope to dry before laying the liner.. PITA unless I put a board down on the liner so I don't mess up the slope..

    • @msavage138
      @msavage138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's because after a while soap, shampoo, and body oils mess with the pan waterproof membrane. At that point, water penetrates the mortar and sits stagnant on a non-presloped liner.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @msavage138 That sounds like BS, show me proof of that

    • @Stevelemontrudy
      @Stevelemontrudy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StarrTile Then why bother to put in a pan liner at all?

  • @daveeddy2402
    @daveeddy2402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So...
    I have the Plastic curb installed over some 2x2 and filled with mortar...
    How do I attach the pan liner to the curb?
    I don't want to staple it...
    Do I go over the liner with wire mesh and then mud it??

  • @honestabe7349
    @honestabe7349 ปีที่แล้ว

    When does the screw in drain cap portion get fixed or locked in to a height and what holds it from spinning? Is drain "locked" in at the time of thinset and tile install?

  • @stevenelliott3444
    @stevenelliott3444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is your best video ever you did not do that much talking 😂😂👍

  • @haroldfroehlich656
    @haroldfroehlich656 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GREAT !!. DO IT RIGHT.

  • @jonc2914
    @jonc2914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok my issue is the builder used concrete to put a fiberglass pan in. I removed everything. But now i got concrete bumps making my floor not perfectly flat. Can i slope it UNDER the liner then tile on the liner or no? To chip all this concrete first would ruin the sub floor

  • @troycarothers8254
    @troycarothers8254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11:38 Bangin' on the bathroom floor while you're screwin' the pan liner to the bathroom floor. Was that done on purpose Bob??? LOL!!

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was worth it just for the music.
    Serious question: Is that mortar bed strong enough to use without tile? What if you just painted it with something like waterproof epoxy paint? Never much liked tile and it's such a bother.

  • @wheelie707
    @wheelie707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it by choice that you don't shop at lowes? Just curious. Do you shop suppliers/wholesale or big box stores. As always I appreciate your ideas and methods as they tend to be down to earth. Thx, and happy new year.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't shop at Lowe's because I don't like their product line generally speaking, Plus they don't give the veterans 10% discount Like Home Depot does, and I can't go in there and get 2 feet of baseboard, they make you pay for a whole 8-foot section....
      But yeah, HD is my go to store unless I need specialty items and I have tile stores fir that.

    • @wheelie707
      @wheelie707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarrTile I've started using their app. Order it the day before if I can and boom is ready. Or if it's a part for stock, I'll just have them send it to me

    • @dustchip8060
      @dustchip8060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StarrTile I'm surprised Lowes does not give you the 10% military discount. I took my DD214 to customer service and they put me right in the system. I give the cashier my phone# and it takes off 10%. I live in Texas.

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dustchip8060 yes I believe Lowe's had said something about applying oh, and I didn't go through any process of bringing anything in because I carry my VA card in my wallet, I show that Home Depot and that's good enough

    • @dustchip8060
      @dustchip8060 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarrTile I bought the 10" Rigid tile saw from Home Depot and they accepted my VA card as well.
      Have you ever installed 4" x 48" porcelain floor tile? My client just bought it for their master bath I've completely gutted.I didn't realize tile even came in that length and small width. Already anticipating a nightmare. lol. There is 1/8" of bow up in the middle of the tiles.
      Any advice on installation procedure outside the norm?
      By the way, I use your procedure to install liners, mud beds and backer board. Thank you for the teaching.

  • @jessicaclarke8043
    @jessicaclarke8043 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m doing a shower pan liner. I did a cement preslope already. Now I’m ready to install the liner. The backer board is already up and it was installed all the way to the floor. Can i install the shower pan liner over the backer board wall? Or how do i approach this situation?

  • @frankdayaw2216
    @frankdayaw2216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it ok to apply a waterproofing membrane before I will install the Oatey pan liner

  • @garrypieroni8038
    @garrypieroni8038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos Bob Thank You, Question, could you just use RedGuard as a pan liner? Maybe 3 or 4 coats and then use another 3 coats of RedGuard on top of your Mud. Thanks

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Redgard allows for their product to the pan liner. I don't know the mil thickness they are looking for but 3-4 coats would do the trick.
      Having said that, because I have a customer base answer to I would not attempt it personally and instead use kerdi..which I have on many occasions for curbless showers on a slab.

    • @estephenchavez9577
      @estephenchavez9577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just had to throw in my two cents when I read this question.. if I understand your question correctly you want to possibly do away with the ~$30 shower membrane and put several layers of red guard which would cost over a hundred dollars easy. Why would someone want to go that route?

    • @garrypieroni8038
      @garrypieroni8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@estephenchavez9577 I've never installed a rubber liner ( if thats what your talking about) and I don't like the way inside corners make wall board bump out. Red Guard is a bit pricy @ $150.00, 3 gal pail but I'm using on walls anyway, so I use as a pan liner also. I did call Custom Blend Tec support and got the OK. I can usually do 2 showers with 1 pail and the home owner pays for material anyway. That's my 2 cents. Peace my fellow Tile Contractor.

    • @estephenchavez9577
      @estephenchavez9577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@garrypieroni8038 yes I was talking about the plastic liner... my thinking is using a shower liner would be more cost effective and quicker than red guard but if youve had positive results I can't knock it

  • @nicholasnoah9030
    @nicholasnoah9030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SO ! I guess it's required to wear brand new WHITE SNEAKERS when performing this procedure ! LOVE that EXTRA touch !

    • @jmora6529
      @jmora6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude I was thinking this the whole video lol!

  • @christopherhines3342
    @christopherhines3342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maynard James Keenan is this you!!

  • @ikeavaughan
    @ikeavaughan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beauty vids brother i got one question, once i get the liner in, the final spin on peice of the drain, after i set the height, I just slap down the mortar? Thanks

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and do the best you can do firmly pack it around the neck of the drain

    • @ikeavaughan
      @ikeavaughan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarrTile awesome thanks for the response!

  • @benh9961
    @benh9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    好极了,谢谢

  • @betobeto7903
    @betobeto7903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like your work! Not too crazy on the power tools you use. :-) Why that brand drill???

    • @azdeh1894
      @azdeh1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did it drill the screws?

    • @betobeto7903
      @betobeto7903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azdeh1894 The question is not if it drilled the screws but how many screws will you drill with that drill. Not too many. lol

    • @azdeh1894
      @azdeh1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@betobeto7903 The work doesn't require high use of a drill, it is more than enough. Personally, Ryobi is too bulky, feels cheap and underpowered for my needs but it will do the job. If you can't afford other brands, it's more than capable,

    • @betobeto7903
      @betobeto7903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azdeh1894 nice answer, I now agree! :-)

  • @reeaub
    @reeaub ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Lots of comments on preslope or why not here. The subfloor should be very very close to level 1st and foremost, wood or concrete slab. If not this is where you create a pre slope or use floor leveler or level up a plywood sub floor. The pan liner gives the wood sub floor some protection against water all over it if water gets past the grout and the entire mortar bed becomes soaked 101%. You're then hoping water goes to the drain as path of least resistance. You've got a big fail when this happens. My question is why is the mud bed so thick?

  • @johnzamostny8188
    @johnzamostny8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video Bob. Do you have an opinion on the GOOF PROOF Quick Pitch system?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I think it's a great product for a homeowner to use, it would take me too long to set up because I don't need that product but I will be making a mock-up demo video very soon exactly that

    • @johnzamostny8188
      @johnzamostny8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarrTile Thank you. Im learning a ton from your videos

  • @robertmartinez8686
    @robertmartinez8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have viewed many of your u tube video's in regards to shower pan liner / mortar. While you install one bed of mortar, some other guys do two. What is the benefit of doing it twice? I am going to use your method. Curious???

    • @howtodoitdude1662
      @howtodoitdude1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two beds is unnecessary. Who started this trend, I don’t know? The liner is to waterproof the subfloor, not for drainage.

  • @EddyFlexy
    @EddyFlexy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How would you do that curve with durock? Do you screw into the liner? I am stuck there.

  • @richardrice7020
    @richardrice7020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    could not find the green stripe mortar bag at HD. Which type of mortar should i look for at Lowes?

  • @thatonegamer2709
    @thatonegamer2709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to replace my tub for a walkin shower in a mobile home...will the steps be the same..

  • @TheDond56
    @TheDond56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any opinions on pre slope. I’ve always used them but wonder what you do to combat standing water in the pan?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't believe that a pre-slope works as intended because wicking action, having said that everybody waterproofs the pan surface nowadays so it doesn't matter

    • @Mikepopo99
      @Mikepopo99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarrTile but if you do a pan liner and mud isn't throwing a waterproofing over it a bad thing? Aren't you basically trapping water in between?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mikepopo99 the pan liner is not necessary, I still do 1 because habits die hard... but the motar bad should be fully dry and cured before waterproofing the surface, therefore you cannot have moisture in between the two, unless of course you're doing it wrong.
      I prefer to use a liquid topical membrane like Redguard or aquadefense whereas other tile guys are using some type of membrane like Kerdi, a cloth membrane with tape at the seams, etc etc, either way it's done it is a sealed system once again makes the whole notion of a pre-slope irrelevant

  • @chriswingenfeld6436
    @chriswingenfeld6436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I’ve been told to use pea gravel around the weep holes on the drain so no mortar can get into them and clog them. Thoughts??

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are not doing water in water out system anymore so because we are waterproofing the entirety of the pan surface the weep holes would never kick in, having said that it doesn't make any sense to do an extremely porous product which would be Pebbles instead of a less porous product which would be your sand mix, this might take

  • @Skeetle56
    @Skeetle56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why on some projects are a pre-pan installed then a finished pan with the liner sandwiched in between but then on this video, the liner fits directly on your base then a pan formed? My current project has a 6 X 3 pit with a center located drain. Does size dictate one or two pans? Thanks!

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pre slope is a thing of the past since everyone waterproofs their shower.

  • @miavalentini4496
    @miavalentini4496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if i dont want to put tile and i want to do all concrete for my floor.. can i use all mortar and just slope to the actual drain height? Should i use pebbles for weep holes?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure I understand your question, you need to put tile on top of the mortar, not sure how you would just have a Tite-less pan...
      And no I have never put pebbles at the weep holes, it would basically create a clog more than the mortar sand whatever do, but having said that we waterproof the entirety of the pan now so everything below it is irrelevant

  • @mitas258
    @mitas258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ,how long do I have to wait for the mortar mix to dry so I can go to the next step? I heard you said 3 days,is that right?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3 days minimum...longer if possible, 15 days

    • @mitas258
      @mitas258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarrTile gracias 🙂
      Just making sure cause everyone else in other videos just wait 24 hours ,
      But thanks very much for your videos
      Están buenísimos 👏

  • @jetterbenne2578
    @jetterbenne2578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen now people do not put in a liner at all because as you also mention here, you do not put a preslope and I did not see pepples around the weeping holes so the liner appears to be redundant. If waterproofed with red guard or the orange schluter along with an epoxy grout, I do not see the need for the liner anymore. Your thoughts on this?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, everything you said is true

    • @howtodoitdude1662
      @howtodoitdude1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A liner is to protect the subfloor from water damage not for drainage.

  • @travisandtracyjacobs6198
    @travisandtracyjacobs6198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sitting here trying to relax, learn and take in all I can, but all I want to do is dance like a mutha fuc#%. Thank you for putting this out here for us.

  • @flyinggpigg
    @flyinggpigg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! How do you then attach tile to the outside of the step where there is rubber liner but not the mortar?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The step...or curb as it's called... is wrapped with backer board, muded and waterproofed then tiled

  • @mikezurella6174
    @mikezurella6174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No pebbles around the weep holes?

  • @tbone4075
    @tbone4075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you lay floor tile next before wall board?

  • @gutierrezc8709
    @gutierrezc8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need a pan liner if you're building a shower on concrete and not over wood?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes definitely, although the waterproofing membrane can be used in place of a pan liner like Redguard or aquadefense

  • @jams9252
    @jams9252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liner over plywood? Do you ever build a thin cement base first, then the liner, then water test, then the second layer of cement, then waterproof and then tile?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I don't do any of that stuff you're talking about, just how you see it in the video

  • @simmer-ringJ
    @simmer-ringJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...bc of your other video i skipped the preslope... thanks

  • @clarissachiquete6698
    @clarissachiquete6698 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you bend the inside corners of the liner , you cut and beninside the 2x4s? thank you

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you could do that but usually there are double 2x4 in corners where you can't.
      I just use hospital type folds

  • @hungcao7716
    @hungcao7716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we need a pre-slope bed before the shower liner goes in

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't do pre slopes... if you wanted to no harm no foul but if you were waterproofing the pan surface then it wouldn't make any difference

  • @shannoncalt8354
    @shannoncalt8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously, I did a pan using your directions for dry-pack and it came out powdery and after 2 days still broke up in my hand exceedingly easily. I tore the whole thing out and am now going to do it per either the bag (1gal per bag) or more per your instructions in another video (3.5 - 4 gallons per 2 bags) to actual brick mortar consistency. I’m seriously wondering why this recent video you abandoned your old method and went with dry-pack.
    Anyway, by the time you respond, if at all, I’ll be done (version 2.0)

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct, years ago I always did the consistency for brick mortar, never had an issue with that method, however I'm trying to tow the company line so to speak and do dry pack... which works for me as well, I cannot speak to individual results if they are not doing things exactly as I do so sorry you had difficulty, but never had issue you or others have talked about. The only thing that I can assume is that it's not the correct mortar, it wasn't mixed up enough, or perhaps it wasn't packed down well enough.

    • @shannoncalt8354
      @shannoncalt8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      First time I’ve talked to a celebrity!!
      Thank you for your response! I re-did it with just over a gallon a bag today and I think the consistency was perfect and my result will be great. I’m pretty much otherwise going with your advice on other issues over your TH-cam competition. You just seem to speak in common sense and experience and I appreciate and trust that. I think the issue with my dry pack was using “sponges” of water. I might just be using smaller sponges which could make a huge difference. Anyway, 4-5 quarts per bag seemed perfect, workable, and only yielded a little moisture when repeatedly smacked. Thanks for all you do.

  • @whitneybrown2245
    @whitneybrown2245 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 sponges worth of water sounds less than recomend on bag? Just trying to understand your method it seems more like playing sand than mortar. Is that easier?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only reaaon I mentioned 2 sponges full because people want to know what thickness their mortar should be and that always works for me, I suppose you could get a measuring cup and do it by the book but I don't

  • @reginaldmadlock
    @reginaldmadlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question. wouldn't put the durock before the mud?

    • @DavidSmith-tw7bw
      @DavidSmith-tw7bw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, never ever. It’s an overlapping system bottom then sides. Installing Durock first leaves a crack around edges for water to penetrate.

  • @octagram8099
    @octagram8099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @StarrTile where do I get the black bin to mix the mortar?

  • @mauricesize12
    @mauricesize12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I attach my liner using Staples. Are they ok to use?

    • @StarrTile
      @StarrTile  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely... but given the choice between that and screws why not choose the screws