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Robby could always throw, he's not the most accurate in the short game but has always been better than PT at mid and deep balls. That didn't fit the narrative though... only thing he's lacked is a team to get behind him
Geriner needs to get a shot as well. He’s the highest ranked qb out of high school that we have that’s not redshirted. We literally have nothing to lose at this point and might as well see what he can do just in case he transfers.
Aaron Murray @snaps evaluates both Hank and Payton during the Arkansas game and says Hank is the better qb. His evaluation of the 3 picks is in depth and might make you change your mind about one of them.
I was upset and frustrated watching game. Seen some Yay! Moments too where I got hope. I was so sold in my mind that we were gonna come back and win, but turnovers continued to ruin the brief happy moments. Hell our Defense may have given up some scores bur they were killing guys out there lol... Just so much talent and potential in team now. Just hope they can get this Turnover plague cured soon.
The problem is we still have to get a portal qb to cover at least next year if not the next 2 years. IF Deuce commits, I don't think he is ready for at least a year or two. Hugh has stated Walker isn't ready, his body language was saying he isn't close to being ready.
At this point I'd believe the opposite of what freeze says. He's judging guys based on practice! Seriously! You are trying to sell the fan base on someone's performance during practice.
We can complain about the secondary ALL WE WANT but they are not the problem here. Do they play perfect? No, but they make it more than managable to win games everyweek going back to last year and the offense always lets them down.
It was pointed out by Aaron Murray that Hank's first interception was just a great defensive play, not on Brown. You guys say the 3rd one wasn't an int. My math says equals one right on Hank. Hank will be a good QB going forward. That may be somewhere else sadly.
I don't think the Milroe comparison is a good analogy. Saban literally benched Milroe during USF to show everyone that he was the better choice out of the three. Buchner started and was pulled after the first Qtr. Simpson finished the game out. Milroe was always Saban's choice...especially in that particular offensive scheme. But yes, from an optical standpoint, it did seem like a redemption story.
Hank is the guy. We have a big enough sample size on PT...there is no long term upside for playing PT....only downside....the upside for Hank is higher for short term in building for long term. Portal QB is not the end all be all. Didnt we get PT from portal? Just saying....
If you would have told me 4 weeks ago that Cam Coleman will be a net negative in close games I wouldn't have believed it. If you told me the QB play would be atrocious, I'd believe you
you wouldnt have believed an 18 year old freshman would make mistakes? Cam should NOT be a starter. Our fanbase really thought freshmen would get us to a bowl. This is the long game
Disagree on Ike’s comments regarding Hank Browns interceptions. The 1st interception was a very good play by their defense I don’t fault him for that one. The second interception was a bad misread of the defender in the flat (Freshman) mistake. 3rd interception was bad ball placements which you can’t do over the middle of the field regardless of officiating. Check out the Aaron Murray film review when you have the time, and War Eagle!
CHF don’t throw away the season. Scheme your heart out for the team you have, not the team you hoped to have. You’re recruiting for that. Run the ball - not QB running scared with the ball. Run the ball. Address penalties and turnovers. Run the ball. WDE
To all the people saying that Hank should have been kept in the game……if Thorne had led a comeback win would you still feel the same way? Of course you wouldn’t. It’s really easy to second guess decisions after the fact. I think Hugh did what he felt would give us the best chance to come back.
Freeze keeps riding a dead horse at qb hunter had how many carries in second half and 3 man line is ignorant insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result
Anyone that wants to see PT again is like running back to your toxic ex because you’re afraid take a chance on something better. Hank got fooled on a few zone drop backs, but he looked a lot better than PT.
Looking at the stats and the way we move the ball, we are literally keeping the ball safe away from being a really good team, just lost at where to go to not throw 4 picks a game 🤦🏻
Auburn coach Hugh freeze should have gone after cam ward from Washington state Miami just beat south Florida 50 to 15 we needed cam ward I’m losing confidence in Hugh freeze he’s not doing the best he could do at auburn
The end record isn't what matters. I just wanted to see progression and improvement. Freeze fired his coordinators, implying that they were the problem with competence on the field last year. This year not only hasn't been better, it is markedly worse. The team looks sloppy and undisciplined. That is all on the coaching (or lack thereof). There is still poor player management and decision making going on, and I just don't see that improving. There is no way to 'out talent' this league, and that is the only way Coach Freeze is going to be successful. He is a great recruiter, but if he can't develop that talent, how much longer will that remain the case? It kind of reminds me of Mark Richt. He got them in the door, but he just couldn't develop them to their potential.
Nobody can really say Walker isn’t ready. He may not know all the plays but if he’s more accurate and smarter with the ball than what we currently have I’d give him a couple drives in a game. Walker doesn’t have the experience that Thorne or Hank has but that also means he may not have developed the same bad habits as them. Simplify the offense and take away a few plays that Walker doesn’t know as well and then let him have 2 drives in a game.
@@tracy2. after watching all of last year and 4 games into this year, I’m not sure “Hugh believes” seems to carry much weight. They’re not developing players anywhere right now. So, yea, Walker W probably isn’t going to be developed either way. Look at Nebraskas QB. True Freshman lighting it up. He’s making some freshman mistakes but he’s not as bad as our 5th year starter.
Comment from a Boomer - this generation is a lot softer than previous gens. The coaches pull back in the way they might have coached before. No Drill Sergeants allowed. Welp - maybe we need a freakin Drill Sergeant! Put on your big boy pants fellas. Man up.
Auburn top offense potential portal targets. Makhi Hughes So RB Tulane Josh Hoover So QB TCU Devonte Ross Jr WR Troy Ryan Williams So WR Bama if he hits the portal Chase Roberts Jr WR BYU Harold Fannin Jr. Jr TE Bowling Green
this year Peyton. Next year portal. ANYONE who thought a low three star qb (Hank Brown) who was not recruited to any bigger schools should or could start in the SEC needs their heads examined. Our fanbase and talking heads need to chill the F out and REALIZE we are in year 2 of the biggest rebuild Auburn football has maybe ever had. We have a TOP 5 class right now. Screaming idiots like Jake Crane need to calm down, and be frigging PATIENT
@@TheWarRapport but not a freshman. At least one with Power 5 , now 4 I guess, experience. He’s all we got this year. An inexperienced freshman is not and will not be ready for our incoming schedule that Thorne has already faced
Hugh Freeze need to go!! Bring home Travis Williams..Carnell Williams..Dell McGee.. Hugh Freeze, a 35+ year offensive coaching vet got shut down by a DC who just got started a few year ago! Let that sink in!
Here is the question I have been asking for a couple weeks. Why can other schools start true freshman but CHF cannot? Seriously? WW was a 4 star QB, #7 QB in 2024 class. HB didn't even have a rating until after he signed and it was 3 stars. Offers from Liberty, UAB (old coach is there) and PITT. Freeze keeps saying it's always been about 2025. OK fine! Start walker and let's prepare in 2024 for 2025. Can't be a good QB if you don't have experience. Damn!!!! We would be cheering for WW even if we loose. We will loose WW to portal along with HG.
Our biggest problem is at qb, obviously. And 4 games in isn't the time for this coaching staff to realize they needed a portal quarterback. But the problems are so pervasive. I don't want to hear something needs to be "cleaned up" because nothing is! Nothing will convince me the staff even touched the issue of fumbling last week. I don't think much coaching around smart, disciplined play is happening. What sort of coaching is there on coverages? We are seeing the same things over and over. A lot of these guys are young and are going to make mistakes. But we aren't seeing even minor improvement in the young guys, and some of the veteran leaders are playing with absolutely no focus. I think there are serious coaching issues. But I also agree with Ike. You can reward guys with playing time for poor play only so long. When do you start sitting some people down and giving some other guys a shot, some of them young?
You got to be kidding! He is NOT a person for Auburn ih all he cares about is himself! He's not that good in the league he is in much less against SEC teams.
For you to say that you had a more talented team than Arkansas is laughable. The Arkansas defense dominated the Auburn offense. Arkansas owned the clock for the game. Pittman did not want to score the last time because he was trying to be respectful to freeze. He gave you the ball at the end which equated to another 70 to 80 yards, which really didn’t count for anything.Arkansas could’ve scored again, but was trying to be cool about what was going on and keep things respectful. I think you know that.
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We knew that there would be some growing pains with Hank Brown and I thought Hugh should have given a chance in the 2nd half
Going to be worse when your coach shows he doesn’t believe in you but gives the other guy chance after chance when he plays worse than you did
This is what happens when you take it easy during preseason to not risk injuries.
3 interceptions and 0 points first half, removing qb is not being a short leash.
Thorne threw 3 and didn't get benched....
Robbie ashford threw the ball really well for SC yesterday. Has improved as a passer.
Robby could always throw, he's not the most accurate in the short game but has always been better than PT at mid and deep balls. That didn't fit the narrative though... only thing he's lacked is a team to get behind him
Freeze should've let Hank finish the game
good lord no. We might have done a lot better if he had never played
Arky managed 7 the first half and 17 the second, math helps
We might have done better had PT never arrived in Auburn
@@autk thank u for saying that
@@autk Amen !
Geriner needs to get a shot as well. He’s the highest ranked qb out of high school that we have that’s not redshirted. We literally have nothing to lose at this point and might as well see what he can do just in case he transfers.
Im gonna reach into my bag of hope, and say things will get better.
Coaches back in the day when I was in high school made us run steep hills when we dropped passes.
It worked!🏈🏈🏈🔥🔥🔥
While carrying the ball and better not drop it
Ive pushed the panic button so hard I broke it!
We can still win 3 or 4 games, don’t panic
Aaron Murray @snaps evaluates both Hank and Payton during the Arkansas game and says Hank is the better qb. His evaluation of the 3 picks is in depth and might make you change your mind about one of them.
I get we upgraded or WR's but why are we all of a sudden Pass first. How about we run the ball to set up the pass.
Do we have a community pick ems? If not maybe we should do that next year 🤔
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Bizarre how this team managed to get worse.
I was upset and frustrated watching game. Seen some Yay! Moments too where I got hope. I was so sold in my mind that we were gonna come back and win, but turnovers continued to ruin the brief happy moments. Hell our Defense may have given up some scores bur they were killing guys out there lol... Just so much talent and potential in team now. Just hope they can get this Turnover plague cured soon.
The problem is we still have to get a portal qb to cover at least next year if not the next 2 years. IF Deuce commits, I don't think he is ready for at least a year or two. Hugh has stated Walker isn't ready, his body language was saying he isn't close to being ready.
At this point I'd believe the opposite of what freeze says. He's judging guys based on practice! Seriously! You are trying to sell the fan base on someone's performance during practice.
We can complain about the secondary ALL WE WANT but they are not the problem here. Do they play perfect? No, but they make it more than managable to win games everyweek going back to last year and the offense always lets them down.
It was pointed out by Aaron Murray that Hank's first interception was just a great defensive play, not on Brown. You guys say the 3rd one wasn't an int. My math says equals one right on Hank. Hank will be a good QB going forward. That may be somewhere else sadly.
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I don't think the Milroe comparison is a good analogy. Saban literally benched Milroe during USF to show everyone that he was the better choice out of the three. Buchner started and was pulled after the first Qtr. Simpson finished the game out. Milroe was always Saban's choice...especially in that particular offensive scheme. But yes, from an optical standpoint, it did seem like a redemption story.
Defensive front played their ass off,but stupid penalties and turnovers, clearly cost us the game again. Point blank Period ‼️🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Crazy thought-Sam Jackson IV at qb?
Hank is the guy. We have a big enough sample size on PT...there is no long term upside for playing PT....only downside....the upside for Hank is higher for short term in building for long term. Portal QB is not the end all be all. Didnt we get PT from portal? Just saying....
If you would have told me 4 weeks ago that Cam Coleman will be a net negative in close games I wouldn't have believed it. If you told me the QB play would be atrocious, I'd believe you
you wouldnt have believed an 18 year old freshman would make mistakes? Cam should NOT be a starter. Our fanbase really thought freshmen would get us to a bowl. This is the long game
@@sloanlove1994
You wouldn't have believed a redshirt freshman starting his first SEC game would make mistakes ??
Cams not a redshirt
@@autk yeah , Cans not a redshirt
@sloanlove1994 ..
I know what he is lol, you missed the crack back genius 😭
Disagree on Ike’s comments regarding Hank Browns interceptions. The 1st interception was a very good play by their defense I don’t fault him for that one. The second interception was a bad misread of the defender in the flat (Freshman) mistake. 3rd interception was bad ball placements which you can’t do over the middle of the field regardless of officiating. Check out the Aaron Murray film review when you have the time, and War Eagle!
You just watched snaps
CHF don’t throw away the season. Scheme your heart out for the team you have, not the team you hoped to have. You’re recruiting for that. Run the ball - not QB running scared with the ball. Run the ball. Address penalties and turnovers. Run the ball. WDE
To all the people saying that Hank should have been kept in the game……if Thorne had led a comeback win would you still feel the same way? Of course you wouldn’t. It’s really easy to second guess decisions after the fact. I think Hugh did what he felt would give us the best chance to come back.
It’s time to buy a QB next season. We paid Cam in 2010 and it was worth it. It’s a QB driven League.
bammer
I’m being realistic.
@chrisstiff2914 everybody knows we paid Cam lol it is what it is... 🤷 Best 200k we've ever spent
Turnovers, turnovers,turnovers lost both games so far 🤦
The reason we have turnovers is because we suck
I dont see Holden being better. He ran on the play he came in last game where he should have thrown it into the endzone.
Freeze keeps riding a dead horse at qb hunter had how many carries in second half and 3 man line is ignorant insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result
I agree with Ike qbs have to execute in the game
Anyone that wants to see PT again is like running back to your toxic ex because you’re afraid take a chance on something better. Hank got fooled on a few zone drop backs, but he looked a lot better than PT.
Looking at the stats and the way we move the ball, we are literally keeping the ball safe away from being a really good team, just lost at where to go to not throw 4 picks a game 🤦🏻
You have turnovers because you are not good
Bring back Malzahn. 8-4 most of tge time and an SEC championship run every 4 or 5 years wasn't so bad.
Fuck that
Payton did well, but Hank deserves another chance imo. Just don’t think he’ll get it until a mop up role when PT struggled again.
It's time for Hugh to be a head coach and a recruiter. Go hire an O.C. that is totally different from his style of offense.
Undisciplined team.... means either he's coaching it or he's condoning it.
Auburn coach Hugh freeze should have gone after cam ward from Washington state Miami just beat south Florida 50 to 15 we needed cam ward I’m losing confidence in Hugh freeze he’s not doing the best he could do at auburn
Yes Hank is the guy!!
The end record isn't what matters. I just wanted to see progression and improvement. Freeze fired his coordinators, implying that they were the problem with competence on the field last year. This year not only hasn't been better, it is markedly worse. The team looks sloppy and undisciplined. That is all on the coaching (or lack thereof). There is still poor player management and decision making going on, and I just don't see that improving. There is no way to 'out talent' this league, and that is the only way Coach Freeze is going to be successful. He is a great recruiter, but if he can't develop that talent, how much longer will that remain the case? It kind of reminds me of Mark Richt. He got them in the door, but he just couldn't develop them to their potential.
I understand what your are saying, but I'd be happy to have the 10 win seasons that Mark had at Ga almost every year.
You can't make six million a year and tell me you done know.
Is the choice obvious for you?
Takeaway the turnovers and penalties and Auburn wins this game, and the Cal game easily! 4-0
lol if we were a good team we would be good
Nobody can really say Walker isn’t ready. He may not know all the plays but if he’s more accurate and smarter with the ball than what we currently have I’d give him a couple drives in a game. Walker doesn’t have the experience that Thorne or Hank has but that also means he may not have developed the same bad habits as them. Simplify the offense and take away a few plays that Walker doesn’t know as well and then let him have 2 drives in a game.
They have nothing to lose by starting him. They aren’t going to win games with Hank or Thorne.
If Hugh believes walker is the future, throwing him to the wolves will hurt his development it’s not giving him valuable experience
@@tracy2. after watching all of last year and 4 games into this year, I’m not sure “Hugh believes” seems to carry much weight. They’re not developing players anywhere right now. So, yea, Walker W probably isn’t going to be developed either way. Look at Nebraskas QB. True Freshman lighting it up. He’s making some freshman mistakes but he’s not as bad as our 5th year starter.
@@WarGolf I’m not sure if that’s comparing apples to apples. Wasn’t Raiola like a top 10 nationally ranked prospect?
You can’t put your 4th team QB in a game you’re behind in! Let’s be realistic in our opinions.
Comment from a Boomer - this generation is a lot softer than previous gens. The coaches pull back in the way they might have coached before. No Drill Sergeants allowed. Welp - maybe we need a freakin Drill Sergeant! Put on your big boy pants fellas. Man up.
Murray 's review on game plan was positive
WDE
Auburn top offense potential portal targets.
Makhi Hughes So RB Tulane
Josh Hoover So QB TCU
Devonte Ross Jr WR Troy
Ryan Williams So WR Bama if he hits the portal
Chase Roberts Jr WR BYU
Harold Fannin Jr. Jr TE Bowling Green
Hank Brown is not surgical. In other words, you should have gotten a portal qb!!
For this season.... we are what we all thought Vanderbilt or Mississippi State would be. Sighs.....
this year Peyton. Next year portal. ANYONE who thought a low three star qb (Hank Brown) who was not recruited to any bigger schools should or could start in the SEC needs their heads examined. Our fanbase and talking heads need to chill the F out and REALIZE we are in year 2 of the biggest rebuild Auburn football has maybe ever had. We have a TOP 5 class right now. Screaming idiots like Jake Crane need to calm down, and be frigging PATIENT
PT was a 3 Star as well.
@@TheWarRapport but not a freshman. At least one with Power 5 , now 4 I guess, experience. He’s all we got this year. An inexperienced freshman is not and will not be ready for our incoming schedule that Thorne has already faced
@@sloanlove1994 thanks Obi Wan
@@autk you have issues, whoever you are
So let's go with the better loser??
I think it's time to hit the another losing season button for sure
Hugh Freeze need to go!! Bring home Travis Williams..Carnell Williams..Dell McGee..
Hugh Freeze, a 35+ year offensive coaching vet got shut down by a DC who just got started a few year ago!
Let that sink in!
Hank can get her needs more experience!
Mike that comment was right after the game!! You just lost me
Here is the question I have been asking for a couple weeks. Why can other schools start true freshman but CHF cannot? Seriously? WW was a 4 star QB, #7 QB in 2024 class. HB didn't even have a rating until after he signed and it was 3 stars. Offers from Liberty, UAB (old coach is there) and PITT. Freeze keeps saying it's always been about 2025. OK fine! Start walker and let's prepare in 2024 for 2025. Can't be a good QB if you don't have experience. Damn!!!! We would be cheering for WW even if we loose. We will loose WW to portal along with HG.
Bc the SEC is NOT Liberty, UAB or Pitt
Oklahoma is going blitz auburn all day long next week. Watch and see!!
Murray was pretty positive!!
Our biggest problem is at qb, obviously. And 4 games in isn't the time for this coaching staff to realize they needed a portal quarterback. But the problems are so pervasive. I don't want to hear something needs to be "cleaned up" because nothing is! Nothing will convince me the staff even touched the issue of fumbling last week. I don't think much coaching around smart, disciplined play is happening. What sort of coaching is there on coverages? We are seeing the same things over and over. A lot of these guys are young and are going to make mistakes. But we aren't seeing even minor improvement in the young guys, and some of the veteran leaders are playing with absolutely no focus. I think there are serious coaching issues. But I also agree with Ike. You can reward guys with playing time for poor play only so long. When do you start sitting some people down and giving some other guys a shot, some of them young?
He needs to stop being there friend and be an asshole
Hello
Why has nobody asked him since he claimed last year was a talent issue. If you addressed that then why is this years team definitely worse
P R E V E N T Defense on 3rd and 19 killed our defense
He is the guy!!!
Correct Ike tell it like it is
HB doesnt seem to be a 'killer' on the field.
Start playing white. At least we know wins are not coming
We should’ve got Coach Prime! We definitely wouldn’t have a problem at Quarterback. lol. Too soon?!
You got to be kidding! He is NOT a person for Auburn ih all he cares about is himself! He's not that good in the league he is in much less against SEC teams.
For you to say that you had a more talented team than Arkansas is laughable. The Arkansas defense dominated the Auburn offense. Arkansas owned the clock for the game. Pittman did not want to score the last time because he was trying to be respectful to freeze. He gave you the ball at the end which equated to another 70 to 80 yards, which really didn’t count for anything.Arkansas could’ve scored again, but was trying to be cool about what was going on and keep things respectful. I think you know that.
I’ve watched 20 minutes of content and 35 minutes of commercials… come on enough is enough.
Are you referring to TH-cam putting ads on tue content? Because our ad reads aren't close to 30 mins.
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-Mike G.
Hello!
Arkansas is easily more talented
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@@TheWarRapport one team lost and you act like the losing team is more talented lol
Yes. It happens often, actually. So, I stand by the statement.
@@TheWarRapport talented based on high school ratings or what they are right now ?
Talent based on right now, high school, tomorrow...Auburn is the better team.
Arkansas is more talented. They are 3-1 and had 650 yards in the loss
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Thanks for the comments
War Eagle!
@@michaelkepesky5635 Karma for the backwards spike?! 😭
Takeaway the turnovers and penalties and Auburn wins this game, and the Cal game easily! 4-0