Heraclitus of Ephesus | The Logos | Philosophy Core Concepts

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  • @Aaron-bd9sj
    @Aaron-bd9sj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Heraclitus is my favorite philosopher. You're a fantastic teacher. New subscriber.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Glad you enjoyed the video

    • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
      @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _the professor is exactly the ignoramus about which Heraclitus speaks. If you can't read the text yourself, in translation, and reach Understanding, no teacher is going to help._

  • @uniphcommunity.thewhitetower
    @uniphcommunity.thewhitetower ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lecture! LOGOS is the "how-to" principle of universal order, the soul's process of growth, human discourse, and cosmic process! The Logos with its multiple meanings, "πολυσημία" in Greek! Thanks a lot, professor!

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tough to pin down precisely what it means for Heraclitus from the fragments we have

  • @tristants9209
    @tristants9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of the most underrated philosophers. Heraclitus is very interesting, his theory of Logos is quite intriguing. Thank you professor for the presentation.

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
    @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The absorption and emission of light is spontaneous, continuous change! The continuous movement of positive and negative charge, Union of Opposites!

  • @camaples
    @camaples 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks Greg, there's a lot of "Logos buzzwording" abounding in the zeitgeist atm, and I think it's crucial to challenge these Logoi peddlers to define their terms. Appreciate your work here as always. YOU, Sir, are the best philosophy prof. alive that I am aware of.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who is particularly talking about "logos"?

    • @AlternicityBlogspot
      @AlternicityBlogspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler E Michael Jones introduced me to the concept.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlternicityBlogspot Never heard of him.
      I'd say that there's dozens of "concepts" of logos just in ancient philosophy. Simply because people use a single term doesn't mean it's the same concept they have in mind

    • @AlternicityBlogspot
      @AlternicityBlogspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Yes actually he said in a video that there is no other European language that can translate it adequately.
      At some point it may risk becoming so full of meanings it becomes useless.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlternicityBlogspot that's a big Nope to both of those. I'd find better people to watch

  • @jimhayes9939
    @jimhayes9939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I look forward to seeing more of your videos. Thank you for this.

  • @kymjohnthorburn6044
    @kymjohnthorburn6044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, I am stounded by the age of Heraclitus' wisdom on 'Logos', and thank you for your non sided academic presentation,.

  • @baldendoboriqua6391
    @baldendoboriqua6391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you are so fucking underrated its unbelievable! thank you professor!

  • @_7.8.6
    @_7.8.6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Logos I feel is an “unfolding” process

  • @gonzalorenatoquintanazunin6984
    @gonzalorenatoquintanazunin6984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, this is exactly and more of what I needed to write my metal music lyrics :)

  • @Winterwalker442
    @Winterwalker442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dr. Sadler, great job

  • @TheCruiseDog
    @TheCruiseDog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would you say that your fuller explanation of "The Logos" is closer to what John is referring to in John 1:1 rather than just "The Word?" What has come down to us in the KJV seems to me to be an inadequate translation. Would that be a correct assessment? Thanks.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, you shouldn't be relying on the KJV period, but that's a separate issue.
      Closer? Sure, but with a lot of distance still between them

    • @TheCruiseDog
      @TheCruiseDog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Thanks. Much appreciated.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@franciskm4144 Nope. Not the same logos

    • @jkovert
      @jkovert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franciskm4144 Not meant to be "the same," necessarily. John was bridging the conception of Word/God/logos for Hebraic Christians and Hellenic Christians.

    • @jkovert
      @jkovert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franciskm4144 Not uncommon. Aristotle was claimed by the church to be a Christian before Christianity. Ari was also called an existentialist by the existentialists (who didn't even call themselves that until Sartre).

  • @theAxehound
    @theAxehound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like E. Michael Jones definition- the order of the universe!!

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t. Pretty sure we don’t need a definition here

  • @shanejohns7901
    @shanejohns7901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fragment 115 seems to have multiple understandings. Is the Logos there in the DNA as a predisposition? Or is it something that can only be determined in retrospect as an unfolding of events leading up to the present state of Being?

  • @SamuelJFord
    @SamuelJFord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @MeghannG
    @MeghannG ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t know if you’ll see this, but I have a reason to believe that “first see half…….” Quote is actually in another book all together in translation. I found it by chance. Don’t know if you’re interested in knowing where, or if you already know.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm only interested in the actual fragments I'm working from, which can be found in Diels. Anywhere else, don't really care

  • @narcopolo4464
    @narcopolo4464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding fragment 1, could you further elaborate on your conclusion(?) about it referring to logos?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not likely in comments, no.

    • @narcopolo4464
      @narcopolo4464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GregoryBSadler when curiosity takes over the keyboard late at night while focusing on the content. Not sure what I was expecting, I hope you found the request somewhat amusing. Great video, your channel looks interesting and I look forward to exploring it!

  • @theriversexitsense
    @theriversexitsense 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the difference from Logos and Hegel's dialectic?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xgf2jztjaF4/w-d-xo.html

  • @PieterHanja
    @PieterHanja หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @marketdetective
    @marketdetective 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you 🙏

  • @TupacMakaveli1996
    @TupacMakaveli1996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @Epicteetus
    @Epicteetus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've often read that in the translated works of Stoic texts, like Discourses, the word "reason" is used as the translation of the word "logos", is that true? If it is, how closely do you think our modern conception of using reason aligns with the ancient meaning behind logos?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd say there is no such thing as "our modern conception of using reason" any more than there is a single "ancient meaning behind logos". Both are terms with multiple meanings

    • @Epicteetus
      @Epicteetus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Fair enough. But is "reason" a common word used to translate the word "logos" in the original Stoic texts?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Epicteetus You know it is

  • @alexjoseph8257
    @alexjoseph8257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New sub❤

  • @kenneth1767
    @kenneth1767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I say that the logos of the tree is in the seed?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can say anything you like. But that would probably be wrong

  • @shanebossom197
    @shanebossom197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the word for thunder or lightning strike that they aren't sure how to translate?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who’s “they”?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darillus1 There's zero point in you trying to provide a better translation

  • @StephenMolloyGoogle
    @StephenMolloyGoogle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In some narrow sense then, could it be said that the laws of physics are "a logos" ?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure

    • @StephenMolloyGoogle
      @StephenMolloyGoogle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Thanks. I can see why the Logos (with a capital "L") was such a useful concept for the author of the 4th gospel (although I'm pretty sure he was talking about something more profound than the mechanical laws of physics). Thanks for this video. It really helped me :)

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephenMolloyGoogle There aren't capitals in the Greek text of the Gospel. And yes, John is talking about something different than what you are, and both are using the term logos differently than Heraclitus is. A word with many senses

    • @StephenMolloyGoogle
      @StephenMolloyGoogle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Thanks for taking the time to reply.

    • @internetuser777
      @internetuser777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Chinese Bibles, Λόγος/Logos is translated to 道/Tao. You should read the Tao Te Ching if you haven’t already. It could give you a better understanding of Logos.

  • @AlternicityBlogspot
    @AlternicityBlogspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:06 Polysemous ...(sp?)

  • @jannieschluter9670
    @jannieschluter9670 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today they call the Logos philosophy: "We are living in a Matrix!" or "We are living in a Simulation!"
    Is that overall correct?

  • @collier1915
    @collier1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I right in thinking that the logos is something akin to jung's collective unconscious?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not.

    • @collier1915
      @collier1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler okay thank you 👍

    • @collier1915
      @collier1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler great content by the way .👍

  • @speckspacey
    @speckspacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the Logos is essentially something that can be nothing or everything.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's definitely not nothing to Heraclitus

    • @speckspacey
      @speckspacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler Thank you for the reply, Professor. You work is a great guide for the interested laymen like myself. Greetings from Ukraine.

  • @LoveSumsItUp
    @LoveSumsItUp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John 1 oooh the mystery! I’ve seen the logos before I knew what it is….the beingness. Burning Bush that consumeth not. The triune, creator.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope. Different logos. It’s a term with lots of meanings and is used differently by different thinkers. It’s a mistake to conflate them

    • @LoveSumsItUp
      @LoveSumsItUp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GregoryBSadler I admit that I made my comment before I watched this video…I enjoyed your work.

  • @zackmuravev2730
    @zackmuravev2730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How... Did I get here?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No clue

    • @jkovert
      @jkovert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      via the telos, probably

  • @paulinsonso6569
    @paulinsonso6569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ✨ ologies...

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those come later on, long past the time of Heraclitus

    • @paulinsonso6569
      @paulinsonso6569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GregoryBSadler thank you...
      Will listen again...
      Much appreciated...