Considering that you had no idea about the theme of the song before, your reaction was impeccable. As an artist, you have the necessary sensitivity to feel / understand, even without knowing the explicit context. I mean, you're an exception, which unfortunately confirms a rule. That is why many of us do not recommend this piece of art to beginners, because they risk not catching the essence. You felt the emotional shock, the struggle, even so. Tuomas called "catharsis" the live performance of that song in an interview. I hope this will not scare you, and that you will continue :)
Yeah, I had no idea, but you know what, there are no rules here. Not everyone knows the backstory to this song when they here it for the first time, I'm just one of those people....
Enjoy your own way, then you can enjoy more knowing the backstory, when i heard this song for the first 10 times i didn't know the story and liked more after knowing the backstory. Good reactions, thanks
well I could tell you enjoyed and appreciated it for the masterpiece it is,one of the more deep & heavy songs as far as content and allegory, Floor just slayed it . cheers
That's exactly it. If it can't stand on its own without an epic backstory it doesn't deserve to. But it absolutely can - and 15 years after the events that inspired it I'm sure *that's* what Tuomas and the band cares about.
I guarantee, that when you start to piece together the history of this band and especially the pain wrapped up in what this song it will have a much more emotional impact, its Brilliants stands on its own, but the genius of this song is more apparent when you understand what happened. Go back and watch the "End of a Era" 2005 concert the last show with Nightwishes first singer Tarja, understand that this band had been together since high school, every member is brilliant in their own, and the whole brings it to another level, it works and then it doesn't the magic was turning sour, the situation can not continue, to you kill what you love or excise part of what defines you, betraying and firing a friend, angering your entire fan base! these things drive you towards suicide. This song is NOT played often, it is a reminder or a bad time, and through this performance band members that lived through this, are checking up on Tuomas, a lot of the fan base, especially the ones that were disappointed and angry at this situation have adopted this pain as well I think, as we applied the pressure in the backlash at we drove something we loved to this point, the blame is on us as well.
Listening to Floor sing daily for the past 4 months has totally changed my life. I have been suffering chronic illness after meningitis for the past 10 years and I felt very burnt out and sad going through the daily struggles. Floor has a voice that impacted me so much that I have turned into a very positive and grateful person. Nightwish and Floor will never know what they did for me but it literally means everything. The sound of Floors voice touches me like no other :)
Nightwish with Floor made me much happier and positive person, it’s so true that this music effects you so deeply and tuned you on the good wave. It’s hard to explain really but I see a lot of similar stories that people describes their feelings and they all the same. It’s so magical.
@@paisa20 Thanks Leonardo. It´s my true inflection point and the good thing is I know inside myself that I won´t slip back. There is a better way to live and feel even if there is an underlying condition. I´m not a ´whore for the cold world` anymore. Floor´s voice was the key that allowed me to cry for the first time in 10 years. Floor allows me to release those emotions built up and experience and enjoy the beauty of this world. :)
I was there - and Floor live.... She is almost a weapon to have in front. We were 12.500 people - pretty in complete stunned crazy happiness up til now - and then Tuomas and Floor pulled that one out of nowhere. Floor hammered all of us in the gut, ripping our souls out (we all knew the song and the background - but had only heard Anette's version). Fact: Tuomas had the technicians kill Floor's voice at the end in his earplugs to keep concentrated. This tour through a deep personal depression where Tuomas commits suicide on stage instead of in reality - the chaotic thoughts in his mind illustrated in the music's ups and downs, Marko's desperation in his voice, I won't mention Floor - you felt her yourself. The heartbeat stopping - Tuomas's parents words at the end. The whole concert was a giant emotional roller-coaster - like nothing I have ever experienced before - ending with the scientists Richard Dawkins on stage after another masterpiece... You now know why The Nightwish Army exists - no other band can perform experiences like this - and this song is not alone in being an epic masterpiece... More coming👍 And great reaction from you - you got hit, got quiet - and yes Edgar Allen Poe is used here.
Yeah, I was in Wembley for this one and was really surprised by them playing it. They don't do this one live often. I don't think there's any other live video of this song.
Wow that's awesome. I hope I get to see them live one day. I had tickets to see them last year but then ya know.... It's such a shame that Marco left the band but hopefully he will be back. I know how it is to have mental health problems so of course I understand why he left but it still sucks. And the fact that Richard Dawkins came out on stage at the very end....so epic! I mean I was speechless when I saw him walk out on stage. But to have actually been there in person....amazing!
This was Tuomas' most personal and painful songs, was written after he fired Tarja the first lead singer and after the fallout he received and hate by many fans that solely blamed him, but it was a unanimous band decision. He went into a deep depression and he wrote this song, he was quoted as saying he killed himself in this song so not to do it in real life. To this day playing the song takes an emotional toll on him and takes him back to those dark days. The last part of the song, Mother and Father were actually words said to him in his darkest moments back then. If you notice in the video, it keeps showing his face and he is tormented by the song. The other band members even check on him and at the end Emppu and Marko join him in unity. They also signed off on the letter firing Tarja. It was earth shattering stuff in Finland at the time, the open letter, even the Finnish Prime Minister of that time was questioned about it. He also has bit from the Pit and Pendulum sprinkled in.
@@RyanMear My pleasure, I just love having reactors that appreciate Nightwish and Floor. Tuomas got a lot of his early inspiration of starting a metal band in America going to Metallica shows.
I’m a former Army attack helicopter pilot, flew many combat missions in the Gulf, was a government counter-drug agent and counter- terrorist later...basically, not a milk toast! But damn, Floor gets to me every time I hear this song!
@@davidsuttles101 thank you for your service , i dont have all those credentials but i did grow up in the streets of Bronx , NY and been through a whole lotta crap and The Goddess makes me cry like a little baby but anyway REAL MEN cry . Lol
I'm a 40 year old lifelong music head and only found them a year ago! I think she's unquestionably the best female lead ever!!! Between her amazing vocals and especially her stage presence I can't think of anyone close! NW is clearly amazing and the writing is next level.
I actually like reactors who come to this one cold so to speak and still know that they just heard something very very special indeed. Your reaction was brilliant.
In SHORT - this is there most personal song its about Tuomas after the open letter to the world about the firing of 1st singer Tarja , He had deep depression from the backlash . This is an on stage suicide by Tuomas to help him put the pain behind , Note the part "I have but 3 min" exactly 3 min is when he kills himself. the last part (Mother & Father) are words said to him by his parents then at the very end Emppu & Marco stand next to him to for support.
Guess what? I also didn’t know the back story the first time I heard this song, but I loved it anyway. You were respectful and appreciative of the music, the performance and, most importantly, the emotions it stirred in you. Sure, you’ll have a different perspective after you know the back story, but this reaction was genuine and the song obviously moved you. Well done, I say.
We all cry, even after seeing this 50 times we still cry...floor is a hsp person (high sensitive person) I think that’s how she’s able to make you feel what you feel. I don’t know what Tuomas is, but he is incredible 😁 Knowing what you no doubt heard in the comments about the content of this song, go back and listen to it again and again...
51 y/o dude, and I listened to this song every day on my hour long commute (one way) to work, sometimes on repeat, and then at home, and watched the video, and reactions.... ...for the last four years. I STILL cry. I am unashamed. It saved me.
Pretty heavy for a beginner, but maybe appropriate for a musician and composer like yourself. Thanks for an honest and heart felt reaction. Your comment about seeing your band members bringing your creation to life is something that we all may be lucky to experience at least once in our lives. Not just in music but in whatever life task we tackle.
Fun fact. Tarja was fired in 2005, Anette came not earlier than in 2007, (I believe 2000 singers applied for the job, one of them was Elize Ryd (Kamelot). Her demo is on YT, can't remember what Nightwish song it was. Edit: Elize Ryd - "Nemo" (audition for Nightwish singer 2006). Several commentators on that video are asking why didn't they hire her. Maybe she was too young?) and Nightwish was without a female vocalist, so Marko sang the demo of the Poet and the Pendulum alone, the whole thing, male and female parts. He is a great singer but that was not easy as you can imagine. The demo is on YT. When Nightwish was touring the US Anette got sick, could not perform, but Elize and Alyssa White-Gluz were there, so Nightwish asked the audience if they wanted their money back and to go home or if they'd rather see a makeshift Nightwish concert with these two ladies, whatever Nightwish songs they might be able to pull off reading the lyrics from paper while singing. They had one hour to prepare with the help from Nightwish. (Denver Debacle, on YT.) The decision of the crowd was unanimous. If you are interested there is a 2h documentary "Please Learn the Setlist In 48 hours" about how Floor came to be the 3rd and current Nightwish vocalist. Believe it or not some reactors have reacted to that documentary. The latest reaction I saw was cut into three parts. Some have made it a live stream chat reaction.
I watched a reaction a little while ago, (I can't remember who, sorry) anyway, he admitted that he struggled with suicide, the insight he provided on this song took it yet another level.
You're right, the band thought that Elize was to young and inexperienced at the time. And Elize and Alyssa only did a few songs, Marco did the rest of them. And there was a standing offer to those who had bought tickets for the entire US leg of the tour. They could get their money back after Anette left if they didn't like Floor. I think it was three people in total that took that offer.
To the inevitable comments saying he should have researched the song or waited to react to this: sod off. No music requires research to be done prior to listening. Sure sometimes the underlying meaning and subject matter may be lost on someone on a first listen, but that’s what is amazing about great music, it’s like an onion. There are layers you can peel back on each listen and get something new from it every time. Ryan - Great video, glad you appreciated and enjoyed the music. There is no right or wrong way to go down the rabbit hole. As a song writer yourself you are obviously in tune with how music can be nuanced and wide reaching at the same time.
I appreciate that, Nick👍 I had one dude that told me a certain person isn't a defacto leader and to listen to other stuff.... then tell me I shouldn't stray from his list until I know the band better LOL
Wow, I'm glad i dont have a reaction channel, they wouldve burned me at the stake lol. You decide what you listen to next, enjoy your own personal ride.😉😊
@@RyanMear It is good to follow your own path of discovery. We only give you suggestions, that's all. Your honest reactions will always be appreciated by all true fans. I guess the reference was to me. I do not consider myself a leader, but only the bearer of a flag at most. Otherwise, I'm just a middle-aged IT guy, in love with Nightwish :)
@@RyanMear If the guy you're referring to is Gabriel Bardac you may have misinterpreted him. Gabriel is considered by us, Nightwish Army, as a guide for new Nightwish listeners. What he does is telling the band's history and providing you with an extensive list of Nightwish and Floor songs for eventual follow up. Doing so he has taken over the torch from our beloved Ann Waychoff who unfortunately passed away roughly a year ago. Gabriel never 'commands' anyone to follow his list but advises new listeners to first look into their 'regular' songs (which are without exception amazing by themselves) before going into their 'big ones' Poet and the Pendulum and The Greatest Show on Earth. First get a feel for the band and its history so you'll appreceate those two masterpieces even more. Not everyone is as an experienced musician as you are, Ryan, and believe me for most noobs his recommendations are a perfect way to get them invested in the band. Obviously you have met and will meet fans being fans (in the wrong way) who think their opinion is law and are extremely harsh in their reactions. Please believe me that the vast majority of the Nightwish Army rejects such behaviour.
@@RyanMear I find this difficult to believe. Can you link his comment here since I have watched your reactions and not found this command not to stray from the said list? However your reaction was very respectful and insightful. The suggestions are just signposts to what might be the most meaningful route to go. Of course everybody chooses his own path. I could not even listen to the song at one go.
I see in your face, the same reaction and thinking that I had when I discovered NightWish a few months ago. Things like Holy shit this band is great, the singer is amazing, the song writing is phenomenal . And then the almost sadness of knowing all these wasted years of not knowing about NightWish. Missing the chances to see them perform live on tour, and now possibly missing the chance to see them with Marco. But yet the happiness of finding the music of this band. February 2021 I owned zero albums by NightWish, May 2021, I now have 7 of them. As a metal head and lover of most musical genres since the 1980’s, I’ve listened to a lot of artists:bands in my life. NightWish has so quickly moved into my top 5 all time, it’s almost scary.
Saw them first time 97’ or 98’ and just knew it that they are something special. Since then saw them about hundred times and every concert is kind a special thing. Tuomas is genius, Metal Mozart. Band plays like no one before. The emotions are high everytime, like a rollercoaster. This song was kind end of era. A testament, like Floor said at last: The Beginning ❤️ Everytime I wanna cry, I put this on and my soul and heart feels lighter after this. Greets from Finland, land of Nightwish ❤️🙏🏻🤘🇫🇮
To understand the story you need to know the backstory. Nightwish was started by Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja, their first singer. In 2005, after the recording of the "End of an era" dvd Tarja was fired thru a letter given to her by Tuomas, but it was a band decision. The letter was also posted on the bands homepage at the same time. Marko had told Tuomas "It's me or her". This song is about the aftermath thru Tuomas eyes. A piece in five parts. 1. White lands of Empathica.: Boy soprano (Guy Elliot). "The end, the songwriter's dead, the blade fell upon him" It's the end of an era, Tuomas feels dead inside, he was the one that handed Tarja the letter. The white lands of Emphatica is a place in Stephen Kings "Dark Tower" series. 2. Home: "A poet without a rime, a widowed writer torn apart by the chains of hell" Tuomas got writers block, he's lost his musical "wife", his muse, and was fighting depression and doubt. "My home was there and then, those meadows of heaven. Adventure filled days one with every smiling face" The bands beginning, before the troubles started. 3 The Pacific: "On the shore, se sat and hoped under the same pale moon who's guiding light chose you, chose you all" If I remember it right Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja was having a barbecue at night when they decided to start a band together. The operatic part Floor sings was originally sung by the same boy soprano who sings the intro. When Floor joined she told Tuomas that she could sing that. He decided to keep the intro but let Floor sing that part. The spoken words are read by a boy named Tom Williams. Both him and Guy Elliot were members of Reigate St Mary's Choir School. 4. Dark passion play: This is about the reactions from fans and media where everyone blamed Tuomas even tho it was a band decision. He was ripped apart, even the Finnish prime minister had an opinion. 5. Mother and Father: Tuomas took refuge at his parents house for a while, these are some of the things they told him during that time. Tuomas was inspired by the short story "The pit and the pendulum" by Edgar Allen Poe when he wrote this masterpiece. The first words are "The end", the last words are "The beginning". It's the end of an era and the start of a new. When you see Marko and Emppu close to Tuomas at the end it's a thing they have thet started when this song was new. Tuomas feelings where still raw so they supported him at the end of the song. Tuomas had chosen to have Anettes song cut out of the mix in his earpiece at the shows. This was 11 years after the events, so he's mostly over it now. The birds flying by on the screen, ravens. Which is Poes most famous poem, The Raven. Nothing is by accident.
Hi Ryan. O boy, you chose a BIG one there. Going into this without knowing the back story... But, being a musician, there is a lot to appreciate, even without knowing the back story. Watching your reaction, I know you did. You were spot on when you saw a connection with ‘The Pit and the Pendulum’. The whole title is a play on Edgar Alan Poe's story. I guess you’ve read all about the back story in the comments by now, so I think it will grab you even more when you listen to it again. Have a good weekend!
Floor is just so damn versatile, she can sing anything in any language at any time. A 70-year-old man who has all music since Elvis and she is just the best of all.
Loved the reaction! A lot of people need the backstory, but it proved you are sensitive enough to pick up the emotions as it went. Great seeing you putting it together in your head 😅 struggling with all the thoughts and emotions 👍
Yours is the best, honest, and most intelligent reaction I've seen to this, especially with you not knowing the backstory. Tuomas has said that "The Pit and the Pendulum" seemed an apt metaphor to carry the theme of the song. He's a genius songwriter and composer, and you're right in that he has some talented musicians and an amazing singer to interpret his works of art.
You had a particular moment where you just said "So...", made a vague hand gesture, and then went back to the video. It felt like a moment that you wanted to say something but had no words. Which is usually how I feel. Just struck a cord with me. 😂
At the beginning you put a thick schnitzel on your plate my friend 😁. This is nothing less than a masterpiece by Tuomas. And also for us fans one of the most important and most emotional songs. To understand the song you should know the history of the band. This is really extremely hot and many reactors have burned their fingers on it and gambled away a lot of benevolence. You had no idea, but you showed genuine interest, enthusiasm and appreciation and an attempt at interpretation. I think that's worth a lot if you don't know a lot about the band yet. 👍 And you are a personable person. 😁
Tuomas wrote this song when Anette was the vocalist, but Floor has taken it to a different level emotionally. The chemistry between them all now is so perfect and Floor has been quoted as saying she will never leave Nightwish. Tuomas just simply says she’s at home with the band……
Well done! Cold reaction to this one will still move just about anyone to tears with Floors voice and the epic arrangement of all of the parts. Then, after learning the background and the life events that are the basis for this song, you'll watch it again but this time you'll be full blown crying by the end.
Your reaction was pure and emotional without knowing the full backstory. Now that you know the inspiration for this opus you will appreciate it and react even more emotionally when you hear it again. No matter how many times I hear it, The Pacific grabs me deep and brings the tears. How can such beautiful lyrics, vocals, and instrumentals be a genuine plea to have the pain of emotional turmoil literally drowned away? It's gorgeous, horrible, terrible, heavenly, and deeply sad; all at once.
I try so hard to push Americans towards Nightwish. I from Vegas and worked backstage to some of the greatest singers and bands in the world and none were as good a listen as this band and this singer. Ever
This is one of those songs. Great song without any background. Yet once you learn the backstory. Then listen again. Realise it's a masterpiece. That has so much more than expected or could be in a song.
Being you are a musician and composer I don’t think you needed to be totally immersed in NightWish and the backstory because you obviously appreciated what was going on and you felt it on a level many might not have ... nice job IMHO
I don't think it's ever 'needed' to dive into a whole backstory and to read a small library of poems before you go and listen to music. Music has to speak for itself. And I think this song does.
The Poet and the Pendulum is probably one of my favorites. Already was even the original one, from the album, which wasn't sang by Floor. But then they did this live version with her and with all this visual effects etc.. and what was amazing got even better!! This is art, the most fascinating thing to watch, feel and enjoy.
Writing this song was the catharsis Tuomus needed to survive the rollercoaster of emotional torment between suicide and madness. Everyone experiences sadness and tears listening to this song, assisted by Floor's impecable vocals. Truly a masterpiece composition.
I saw NW in a medium size venue in Mexico City in 2015. The sound was amazing and every bit as good as the videos you’ve been reacting to. Great band with what must be a top notch road crew. As for teary eyed, we’ve all been there many times with NW. The instrumental hammers you flat, and then Floors voice comes floating in to grab your heart and take you home.
Only the third song I’ve heard of theirs.. definitely a metal opera production.. her voice..she reminds me of someone..can you imagine this in person? Can you imagine all the people it takes? What a team. You’re fun to watch too 😁👍
The band originates from Finland, Floor Jansen is Dutch. She is the third (and most loved, possibly) singer for the band. The bass player/vocalist (Marko) has recently left the band. Also the Drummer, Jukka, left some time ago... not too long though. They've been around for a couple decades
I am not sure what is more impressive, the impact this song has on first time listeners with no background knowledge going in or the immense appreciation for every story telling nuance once the listener hears everything led to the song. The fact that both scenarios are so potent speaks volumes. I have hear this song hundreds of times now and swear I still hear new elements. And the emotional impact never waivers. Just a masterpiece.
You got it even before it started. The pit and the pendulum. I love at .... A point there( sorry I forgot the exact time) there is 3 minutes and counting. Exactly 3 minutes later, Toumas slits his troth, the genius to put such music together with a plan past, present and future, almost. The man is a composer of ingenious abilities put together with an incredible crew of musicians. The greatest show on earth 😉 All based on real life experience from Toumas. The letter to Tarja and the fall out. Nighwish is as you know, are not a band sitting down just making up songs 🤪
This one is a tough song to get through, is so emotional and deep, every time I see a reactor watching\listening to it, I think to myself: "I hope you make it in one piece at the end of the song" I personally end up crying every time, the storytelling is magnificent between Floor and Marko, she represents the pain and angst, he's the raw anger, and both make the song absolute perfection
Thankyou Ryan for sharing this reaction with us. I have heard this masterpiece many times and it still moves me EVERY frickin' time! It's almost unfair to have that much talent in one band. Really enjoyed you trying to process this one. I look forward to more Nightwish reactions from you.
You’ve gotta have a look at Ayreon. Start with The day that the world brakes down. Floor is in it and Simone Simons. Floor (and Marko) is also present in the first live concert: Ayreon Universe live. Several other well known musicians are also participating. Simone is in the second live concert: the electric castle live and other tales. Including several other well known musicians.
Excellent first impression ... without full knowledge of the backstory! This song is one of the Big Three: "Ghost Love Score" , "The Poet and the Pendulum" and " The Greatest Show On Earth". And this song is the only one that I love to listen but can't put to my playlist... Tuomas is the Master of his craft! Big Bow to him and to You Ryan. Thank You . NWSU
Ryan, this about as good as it can get for a cold reaction to this piece. I'm an old guy now, but I ran sound for some pretty capable bands for 20 years and I find everything I ever looked for in this band. I regret coming in so late, but I'm trying to make up for it. Kudos.
I don't know did you notice, but at 7 minutes you hear "i have 3 minutes and counting" and at 10 minutes he does the "suicide". Exactly 3 minutes later. This is Tuomakse's masterpiece!
Floor is an empath, she feels the lyrics and songs deeply and has the rare gift of portraying those emotions very clearly in her voice as she sings, and thereby she makes us feel the same. She has made many grown men (and women) cry, she commands the onion ninja army lol. also, don't listen to all the "you should have done research first!"-people. listening to this blindly and with known backstory are 2 different experiences, and you can only do the totally blind one once. now you get to read up on the backstory, maybe watch some other reactors do a deep dive into the lyrics and explain everything for you, and then you get a brand new experience when you get the full blown impact of the song. you do you, there will always be ppl who feel like all reactions should follow specific patterns that they themselves enjoy the most. but if everyone did the same thing, it would get boring quickly ;)
Hi Ryan! I can clearly see that you are a real artist. Your comments and the way you react, shows me a deep understanding of what the music is truly about. Thank you for this. I hope we´ll see you further with NW music. Take care.
Loved you reaction, subscribed. Floor’s voice goes straight into your soul, we all tear up when she sings like that. 🤷🏼♀️ Enjoy your Floor and Nightwish journey, there’s sooo much more! 😄
The song is about suicidal depression. It uses imagery from Poe's The pit And The Pendulum to signify the accompanying feelings like sorrow, anger, despair and eventual redemption..
I thought we'd been here before Ryan, Tuomas uses boy, (he says he's a man with a boy's heart), poet, dreamer, writer/song writer or ocean soul as a direct reference to himself, here and elsewhere you have narration by a boy, it's Tuomas speaking directly to you. The title then carries a strong clue. Floor and Kai, who couldn't leave his drum kit anyway, were not involved in the furore about Tarja's dismissal, however, you have seen Emppu and Marko stand in support of Tuomas as this is obviously difficult for him personally; what I don't think you have seen yet is the very up-beat song before this in the set carried the chorus line "conquering the darkest places" which in the final iteration, Floor went and stood on Tuomas' podium and sang that line directly to him; to my mind in support of what she knew was coming next. You did a grand job, your commentators have filled in all the gaps I think and given comprehensive insights to the back-story.
Before? I knew nothing of this history before seeing this video... I've sure been educated since! These topics have been discussed in various comments and topics in other threads... I'm quickly losing track 🤫
@@RyanMear Oh !!! I thought you were up to speed with Tuomas' pseudonyms, however, I hope it helps as you dive deeper into this rabbit hole, it's an exciting trip that's for sure.
ha, yeah Floor reaches into your heart cause she sings with such passion to the song. You didn't do too bad going in cold, most of the time this is the only one everybody suggests to do research on cause it's so personal, even Tuomas they say told the sound man to turn off his earpiece cause he didn't want to hear the lyrics, and to see how deeply it affected him try "Master Passion Greed" which some say is aimed at Tarja's husband whom some thought caused it all, the lyrics are a little harsh but that was a long time ago and there is no live performance, Tuomas said he's never do it live cause he's not that guy, but they do know how to put on a performance and elicit feelings though.
Ryan, I see you already did "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean", so from the same concert you will find a song called "Dead Boys Poem". You won't regret. Great reaction.
This is an extremely emotional song so tears just form naturally. Add Floors vocals and it's even more so. Floor is a Metal goddes but you can find videos of her singing opera as well.
You are just a couple videos in, and you've realized the beautiful mind that is Tuomas, and the way this group pulls it all together leaves me speechless every time. I see others have shared some information with you, but yes, before you review it again, read the background and I think that will make it even more meaningful. Just when you think you can't be moved anymore, you will be. In skimming the comments, look for Chris Tomashofski's comments, I think he's given a great description of the masterpiece and back-story.
I first saw this I had no idea what it was about. I cried most of the way through it. I still cry when I listen but I feel better afterwards. It makes me appreciate life more. Best line in the song is the last one "In the beginning" it gives hope.
Obviously you did not require the back story to enjoy this extraordinary composition by Tuomas, and the amazingly well done performance of each band member. We were clueless when we watched our first reaction to this and it touched us deeply. Then we watched again with knowing the story of Tuomas's pain and cried together. For us very emotional and rewarding experience. We loved you reaction as we have each one so far.
Floor is always in the moment with her songs, which makes her touching your soul (and yes ..... it sometimes makes you speechless).. Ryan, I hope you can find the time to react to this TOP LINEUP OF MANY MUSICAL INTRUMENTS/SINGERS: The Source is the 9th studio album from *AYREON* , a progressive metal/rock opera project by Dutch musician Arjen (Ahr-Yun) Anthony Lucassen, released on April 28, 2017. *_”The Day That The World Breaks Down”_* is a song that features all 11 (quite well known) main guest singers (you’ll be surprised) and is taken from that album. Arjen himself is telling (in subtitles) who the singers are and which instruments are used and by which standards. Btw. This creative original clip is 13 min. long and I think you won’t regret it !! Official (Arjen’s) clip: th-cam.com/video/oFuMKdrzPqU/w-d-xo.html
Indeed this song is inspired by the Pit And The Pendulum by E.A. Poe. It was written in the aftermath of firing Tarja (the first singer in the band) Since the entire (original) band came from the same tiny town in Finland the band members knew each other from kindergarden. Also Tarja was popular like royalty in Finland. Tuomas got a lot of negative shit from the press and fans when he fired her. This combination sent Tuomas into depression. He said in an interview: "I committed suicide in the The Poet And The Pendulum so I did not have to do it in real live". The writing of the song worked "cathartic ", but playing the song hurts. The vocals are removed from his in-ear monitor, during this song. Floor has an ability (and maybe a problem) that she picks up on peoples emotions and shares in the emotion. So therefore she had no problem to exactly catch Tuomas' emotion. There are lots of interpretations out there of what the parts of the song mean, but I stick to this: The acts represent the fases in the mind of a suicidal person. Act I. White Lands Of Empathica --> this is about the traumatic loss of innocence. Act II. Home --> this part is about raging thoughts of self hatred and a feeling of being uprooted (longing for home even if you already are home) Act III. The Pacific --> this part is about romanticising death. How beautiful and peaceful it could be if you would just be dead. Act iV. Dark Passion Play --> this part is about raging thoughts of anticipation about actually committing suicide and what will happen after Act V. Mother and Father --> this part is about getting help and finding peace (without committing suicide) (Credits to Jim Games Live)
The boy soprano at the start was Guy Elliott from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. Poe has a lot to do with the title!. The other deep song, important to Tuomas, is "Dead Boys Poem".. To think he had written what is basically his own eulogy before TPATP..... An Ocean Soul.
Best Live Sounding Concert I’ve ever seen was probably Queensryche early 90’s during their Empire tour. I saw their Minneapolis show, and they played the entire Operation Mindcrime album from start to finish. It was just amazing, nearly sounded identical to the album.
Greetings and Love from Germany. Yes, Wacken 2013 was a special one. And 'Sold Out' in just few hours. I had the big chance, going to Wacken. Damn, that Line-up in 2013...Nightwish, Rammstein, Alice Cooper, Motörhead, Sabaton, our german Metal-Queen 'Doro', Knorkator, Deep Purple, Anthrax, Rage & Lingura Mortis, Pretty Maids... But on that weekend, after waiting quite a time, i finaly got a free place in the Rehab hospital/center. So i said 'Goodbye' to Wacken...and 'Hello' to my second life. A sober life without demon alcohol. And i'm proud to say that i'm still sober. The choose between those two events was easy. I'm a Metalhead since 1985 and love my music. But more i love my life.....Stay Safe, my friend 💚
@@RyanMear thank you, i just watched again a lot of your react videos.. you're one of my favorite reacters. And i have only a few. For good reason. I don't like those 'fake' TH-camrs, who only care for most likes, donations, money, themselfs, you know. You're so kind, friendly... your knowlegde and passion for music is real and pure. Thats how i see you. My favorite since 1985 are Iron Maiden and Gary Moore. Big influnce and huge support in my life. Gary, i saw him once live(1989), didnt got the fame and respect he deserved. Very underated, in my opinion. I can see that only a few listen to him on their channel. However, i hope you will go on with your great work here on TH-cam. UP THE IRONS
Truly understanding the song, does require some knowledge of the group and its history. There is meaning behind the lyrics of their songs. Listening many times will bring out parts that have new understandings when you have a better knowledge of Nightwish.
WOW THIS IS AMAZING💥💥 I LOVE NIGHTWISH🤘 SO GOOD 🥰 NIGHTWISH SONGS🎶🎹 ALWAYS FANTASTIC🔥🔥 THANK YOU❤️ LOVE FROM THE NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱🌷🇳🇱🙋🏼♀️😘 FLOOR JANSEN Can sing anything. She is a soprano,💕 with a range of more than three octaves (D3 to F6).💕 Her singing style varies from opera 💕to screaming💕 and grunting.💕 mostly she sings in English,💕 besides that she has also sung songs in Dutch,💕 German,💕 Spanish, Finnish,💕 Latin,💕 Italian💕 and Swedish💕 🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱
for the full Nightwish experience, watch the 2013 show from the Wacken festival. in front of 82,000 people.....it's on Youube, and on DVD under the title of "Showtime, Storytime".....the video you're reacting to is from a 2 DVD set titled "Vehicle of Spirit" which is 2 separate concerts on 1 set
I don't think Tuomas has a microphone, he just sings along the lyrics. He has said he will not sing ever again after some necessary vocal duties in the first album of theirs.
@@Nrde It sure doesn't seem to be Marco; the timbre is wrong. Technical a small mic hung from the ear like used in musicals isn't all that weird a gadget to use. And this song is quite something else, especially for Tuomas. Besides, the video director would have gotten at least a shot of Marco had he been singing .... in stead there's only a shot of Tuomas.
@@roykliffen9674 sorry Roy, I agree with @Tuntemattomin: it's Marko singing, even if in a lighter voice because he's backing Floor... IMHO the director's choice to film Tuomas singing along is in order to make us know which his feelings were in that moment. Consider also that Tuomas really isn't a man who like to show them, and I think the director "stole" this bit of his performance because of what this song means to Tuomas... Greetings from Italy. 👋🇮🇹🖖
Apparently I'm not aloud to do anymore from this show....I have to do my homework! jk...I respect the band and fans but I will choose whatever the hell I want lol
@@RyanMear Ignore anyone who tries to tell you what you "must" do, or that you're reacting to songs in the "wrong" order. There's a small but noisy element that wants everyone to have the same experience. I love it when reactors see a title that just catches their unique personal interest, and does something different. It might even be fun to try a song off of the most recent album (Human Nature) even though there are no live shows for it yet--just to see a bit of "then and now" evolution of the band's sound.
Great reaction 🤘😁🤘 I was like 😬 first, but that went just great. Now you can digg in all the background stuff and listen to this masterpiece again. And again and again.... Keep up the good work reacting to NW. NW music makes you whole ♥️ Greetings from 🇧🇻 & 🇫🇮
Considering that you had no idea about the theme of the song before, your reaction was impeccable. As an artist, you have the necessary sensitivity to feel / understand, even without knowing the explicit context. I mean, you're an exception, which unfortunately confirms a rule. That is why many of us do not recommend this piece of art to beginners, because they risk not catching the essence. You felt the emotional shock, the struggle, even so. Tuomas called "catharsis" the live performance of that song in an interview.
I hope this will not scare you, and that you will continue :)
Those were my thoughts too. You are absolutely right!
Yeah, I had no idea, but you know what, there are no rules here. Not everyone knows the backstory to this song when they here it for the first time, I'm just one of those people....
Enjoy your own way, then you can enjoy more knowing the backstory, when i heard this song for the first 10 times i didn't know the story and liked more after knowing the backstory. Good reactions, thanks
well I could tell you enjoyed and appreciated it for the masterpiece it is,one of the more deep & heavy songs as far as content and allegory, Floor just slayed it . cheers
That's exactly it. If it can't stand on its own without an epic backstory it doesn't deserve to. But it absolutely can - and 15 years after the events that inspired it I'm sure *that's* what Tuomas and the band cares about.
I guarantee, that when you start to piece together the history of this band and especially the pain wrapped up in what this song it will have a much more emotional impact, its Brilliants stands on its own, but the genius of this song is more apparent when you understand what happened. Go back and watch the "End of a Era" 2005 concert the last show with Nightwishes first singer Tarja, understand that this band had been together since high school, every member is brilliant in their own, and the whole brings it to another level, it works and then it doesn't the magic was turning sour, the situation can not continue, to you kill what you love or excise part of what defines you, betraying and firing a friend, angering your entire fan base! these things drive you towards suicide. This song is NOT played often, it is a reminder or a bad time, and through this performance band members that lived through this, are checking up on Tuomas, a lot of the fan base, especially the ones that were disappointed and angry at this situation have adopted this pain as well I think, as we applied the pressure in the backlash at we drove something we loved to this point, the blame is on us as well.
The album version is very good too, and there's an amazing demo version floating around the internet with Marko doing all the vocals.
Listening to Floor sing daily for the past 4 months has totally changed my life. I have been suffering chronic illness after meningitis for the past 10 years and I felt very burnt out and sad going through the daily struggles. Floor has a voice that impacted me so much that I have turned into a very positive and grateful person. Nightwish and Floor will never know what they did for me but it literally means everything. The sound of Floors voice touches me like no other :)
It's a nice story, i'm glad for you
Nightwish with Floor made me much happier and positive person, it’s so true that this music effects you so deeply and tuned you on the good wave. It’s hard to explain really but I see a lot of similar stories that people describes their feelings and they all the same. It’s so magical.
Same here ❣️
@@paisa20 Thanks Leonardo. It´s my true inflection point and the good thing is I know inside myself that I won´t slip back. There is a better way to live and feel even if there is an underlying condition. I´m not a ´whore for the cold world` anymore. Floor´s voice was the key that allowed me to cry for the first time in 10 years. Floor allows me to release those emotions built up and experience and enjoy the beauty of this world. :)
@@konidvor Yes Karim, its magic and healing. Nightwish are truly lifechanging :)
I was there - and Floor live....
She is almost a weapon to have in front. We were 12.500 people - pretty in complete stunned crazy happiness up til now - and then Tuomas and Floor pulled that one out of nowhere. Floor hammered all of us in the gut, ripping our souls out (we all knew the song and the background - but had only heard Anette's version).
Fact: Tuomas had the technicians kill Floor's voice at the end in his earplugs to keep concentrated.
This tour through a deep personal depression where Tuomas commits suicide on stage instead of in reality - the chaotic thoughts in his mind illustrated in the music's ups and downs, Marko's desperation in his voice, I won't mention Floor - you felt her yourself. The heartbeat stopping - Tuomas's parents words at the end.
The whole concert was a giant emotional roller-coaster - like nothing I have ever experienced before - ending with the scientists Richard Dawkins on stage after another masterpiece...
You now know why The Nightwish Army exists - no other band can perform experiences like this - and this song is not alone in being an epic masterpiece... More coming👍
And great reaction from you - you got hit, got quiet - and yes Edgar Allen Poe is used here.
Yeah, I was in Wembley for this one and was really surprised by them playing it. They don't do this one live often. I don't think there's any other live video of this song.
Wow that's awesome. I hope I get to see them live one day. I had tickets to see them last year but then ya know.... It's such a shame that Marco left the band but hopefully he will be back. I know how it is to have mental health problems so of course I understand why he left but it still sucks. And the fact that Richard Dawkins came out on stage at the very end....so epic! I mean I was speechless when I saw him walk out on stage. But to have actually been there in person....amazing!
This was Tuomas' most personal and painful songs, was written after he fired Tarja the first lead singer and after the fallout he received and hate by many fans that solely blamed him, but it was a unanimous band decision. He went into a deep depression and he wrote this song, he was quoted as saying he killed himself in this song so not to do it in real life. To this day playing the song takes an emotional toll on him and takes him back to those dark days. The last part of the song, Mother and Father were actually words said to him in his darkest moments back then. If you notice in the video, it keeps showing his face and he is tormented by the song. The other band members even check on him and at the end Emppu and Marko join him in unity. They also signed off on the letter firing Tarja. It was earth shattering stuff in Finland at the time, the open letter, even the Finnish Prime Minister of that time was questioned about it. He also has bit from the Pit and Pendulum sprinkled in.
Wow... thank you for the information and not being dismissive like some. I appreciate that.
@@RyanMear My pleasure, I just love having reactors that appreciate Nightwish and Floor. Tuomas got a lot of his early inspiration of starting a metal band in America going to Metallica shows.
@@RyanMear justo ignore the trolls
@@paisa20 Agreed, alas there are many floating around TH-cam... nothing better to do with their time I guess
Yes, and the part "mother and father" is actually a real conversation between Tuomas and his mother. Love this song, I cry everytime I hear this
Bro , WE ALL cried when we 1st heard this , still do ....she has a way of doing that to people .
I’m a former Army attack helicopter pilot, flew many combat missions in the Gulf, was a government counter-drug agent and counter- terrorist later...basically, not a milk toast! But damn, Floor gets to me every time I hear this song!
@@davidsuttles101 thank you for your service , i dont have all those credentials but i did grow up in the streets of Bronx , NY and been through a whole lotta crap and The Goddess makes me cry like a little baby but anyway REAL MEN cry . Lol
@@silverblack5475 We all have our own story, brother....much respect!
@@davidsuttles101 yes we do sir .....Respect !!!
indeed she does.. we watch reactors yet cant tear our sight from Floor
I'm a 40 year old lifelong music head and only found them a year ago! I think she's unquestionably the best female lead ever!!! Between her amazing vocals and especially her stage presence I can't think of anyone close! NW is clearly amazing and the writing is next level.
Hi there! You stole my words! But anyway thanks.Take care.
I actually like reactors who come to this one cold so to speak and still know that they just heard something very very special indeed. Your reaction was brilliant.
No worries Bro. Floor's voice makes me teary eyed as well. She simply takes my breath away...:)
In SHORT - this is there most personal song its about Tuomas after the open letter to the world about the firing of 1st singer Tarja , He had deep depression from the backlash . This is an on stage suicide by Tuomas to help him put the pain behind , Note the part "I have but 3 min" exactly 3 min is when he kills himself. the last part (Mother & Father) are words said to him by his parents then at the very end Emppu & Marco stand next to him to for support.
Yeah 3 minutes and *SWIIICCSHH ! Tuomas IS A MASTER COMPOSER !!
Guess what? I also didn’t know the back story the first time I heard this song, but I loved it anyway. You were respectful and appreciative of the music, the performance and, most importantly, the emotions it stirred in you. Sure, you’ll have a different perspective after you know the back story, but this reaction was genuine and the song obviously moved you. Well done, I say.
We all cry, even after seeing this 50 times we still cry...floor is a hsp person (high sensitive person) I think that’s how she’s able to make you feel what you feel. I don’t know what Tuomas is, but he is incredible 😁 Knowing what you no doubt heard in the comments about the content of this song, go back and listen to it again and again...
I, 62 years old man, I am crying every single time I see this song video. Amazing piece of art!
51 y/o dude, and I listened to this song every day on my hour long commute (one way) to work, sometimes on repeat, and then at home, and watched the video, and reactions....
...for the last four years.
I STILL cry. I am unashamed. It saved me.
@@TimoHirvonen59 Forgive me, I'll plagiarise your words - I, 75 years old man, I am crying every single time I see this song video.
@@572Btriode Be my guest :-)
@@TimoHirvonen59 Thank you ! :-)
I played "Shoemaker" for my wife and she burst into tears - Tuomas + Floor is pretty potent stuff
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I've probably heard it 100 times and it still gets me.
@@richardgoddard37 Every time. I love watching other people discover Floor.
Pretty heavy for a beginner, but maybe appropriate for a musician and composer like yourself. Thanks for an honest and heart felt reaction. Your comment about seeing your band members bringing your creation to life is something that we all may be lucky to experience at least once in our lives. Not just in music but in whatever life task we tackle.
Well said, and appreciated👍
Fun fact. Tarja was fired in 2005, Anette came not earlier than in 2007, (I believe 2000 singers applied for the job, one of them was Elize Ryd (Kamelot). Her demo is on YT, can't remember what Nightwish song it was. Edit: Elize Ryd - "Nemo" (audition for Nightwish singer 2006).
Several commentators on that video are asking why didn't they hire her. Maybe she was too young?) and Nightwish was without a female vocalist, so Marko sang the demo of the Poet and the Pendulum alone, the whole thing, male and female parts. He is a great singer but that was not easy as you can imagine. The demo is on YT.
When Nightwish was touring the US Anette got sick, could not perform, but Elize and Alyssa White-Gluz were there, so Nightwish asked the audience if they wanted their money back and to go home or if they'd rather see a makeshift Nightwish concert with these two ladies, whatever Nightwish songs they might be able to pull off reading the lyrics from paper while singing. They had one hour to prepare with the help from Nightwish. (Denver Debacle, on YT.) The decision of the crowd was unanimous.
If you are interested there is a 2h documentary "Please Learn the Setlist In 48 hours" about how Floor came to be the 3rd and current Nightwish vocalist. Believe it or not some reactors have reacted to that documentary. The latest reaction I saw was cut into three parts. Some have made it a live stream chat reaction.
Wow.... thank you
I would love to see more reactions on this documentary!
I watched a reaction a little while ago, (I can't remember who, sorry) anyway, he admitted that he struggled with suicide, the insight he provided on this song took it yet another level.
A small correction. Elize was only a guest vocalist of Kamelot. She is one of the singers of her own band Amaranthe.
You're right, the band thought that Elize was to young and inexperienced at the time. And Elize and Alyssa only did a few songs, Marco did the rest of them. And there was a standing offer to those who had bought tickets for the entire US leg of the tour. They could get their money back after Anette left if they didn't like Floor. I think it was three people in total that took that offer.
To the inevitable comments saying he should have researched the song or waited to react to this: sod off. No music requires research to be done prior to listening. Sure sometimes the underlying meaning and subject matter may be lost on someone on a first listen, but that’s what is amazing about great music, it’s like an onion. There are layers you can peel back on each listen and get something new from it every time.
Ryan - Great video, glad you appreciated and enjoyed the music. There is no right or wrong way to go down the rabbit hole. As a song writer yourself you are obviously in tune with how music can be nuanced and wide reaching at the same time.
I appreciate that, Nick👍
I had one dude that told me a certain person isn't a defacto leader and to listen to other stuff.... then tell me I shouldn't stray from his list until I know the band better LOL
Wow, I'm glad i dont have a reaction channel, they wouldve burned me at the stake lol. You decide what you listen to next, enjoy your own personal ride.😉😊
@@RyanMear It is good to follow your own path of discovery. We only give you suggestions, that's all. Your honest reactions will always be appreciated by all true fans.
I guess the reference was to me. I do not consider myself a leader, but only the bearer of a flag at most. Otherwise, I'm just a middle-aged IT guy, in love with Nightwish :)
@@RyanMear If the guy you're referring to is Gabriel Bardac you may have misinterpreted him. Gabriel is considered by us, Nightwish Army, as a guide for new Nightwish listeners. What he does is telling the band's history and providing you with an extensive list of Nightwish and Floor songs for eventual follow up. Doing so he has taken over the torch from our beloved Ann Waychoff who unfortunately passed away roughly a year ago. Gabriel never 'commands' anyone to follow his list but advises new listeners to first look into their 'regular' songs (which are without exception amazing by themselves) before going into their 'big ones' Poet and the Pendulum and The Greatest Show on Earth. First get a feel for the band and its history so you'll appreceate those two masterpieces even more. Not everyone is as an experienced musician as you are, Ryan, and believe me for most noobs his recommendations are a perfect way to get them invested in the band. Obviously you have met and will meet fans being fans (in the wrong way) who think their opinion is law and are extremely harsh in their reactions. Please believe me that the vast majority of the Nightwish Army rejects such behaviour.
@@RyanMear I find this difficult to believe. Can you link his comment here since I have watched your reactions and not found this command not to stray from the said list? However your reaction was very respectful and insightful. The suggestions are just signposts to what might be the most meaningful route to go. Of course everybody chooses his own path. I could not even listen to the song at one go.
I see in your face, the same reaction and thinking that I had when I discovered NightWish a few months ago.
Things like Holy shit this band is great, the singer is amazing, the song writing is phenomenal . And then the almost sadness of knowing all these wasted years of not knowing about NightWish.
Missing the chances to see them perform live on tour, and now possibly missing the chance to see them with Marco.
But yet the happiness of finding the music of this band.
February 2021 I owned zero albums by NightWish, May 2021, I now have 7 of them.
As a metal head and lover of most musical genres since the 1980’s, I’ve listened to a lot of artists:bands in my life. NightWish has so quickly moved into my top 5 all time, it’s almost scary.
Saw them first time 97’ or 98’ and just knew it that they are something special. Since then saw them about hundred times and every concert is kind a special thing. Tuomas is genius, Metal Mozart. Band plays like no one before. The emotions are high everytime, like a rollercoaster. This song was kind end of era. A testament, like Floor said at last: The Beginning ❤️ Everytime I wanna cry, I put this on and my soul and heart feels lighter after this. Greets from Finland, land of Nightwish ❤️🙏🏻🤘🇫🇮
To understand the story you need to know the backstory.
Nightwish was started by Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja, their first singer. In 2005, after the recording of the "End of an era" dvd Tarja was fired thru a letter given to her by Tuomas, but it was a band decision. The letter was also posted on the bands homepage at the same time. Marko had told Tuomas "It's me or her". This song is about the aftermath thru Tuomas eyes. A piece in five parts.
1. White lands of Empathica.: Boy soprano (Guy Elliot). "The end, the songwriter's dead, the blade fell upon him" It's the end of an era, Tuomas feels dead inside, he was the one that handed Tarja the letter. The white lands of Emphatica is a place in Stephen Kings "Dark Tower" series.
2. Home: "A poet without a rime, a widowed writer torn apart by the chains of hell" Tuomas got writers block, he's lost his musical "wife", his muse, and was fighting depression and doubt. "My home was there and then, those meadows of heaven. Adventure filled days one with every smiling face" The bands beginning, before the troubles started.
3 The Pacific: "On the shore, se sat and hoped under the same pale moon who's guiding light chose you, chose you all" If I remember it right Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja was having a barbecue at night when they decided to start a band together. The operatic part Floor sings was originally sung by the same boy soprano who sings the intro. When Floor joined she told Tuomas that she could sing that. He decided to keep the intro but let Floor sing that part.
The spoken words are read by a boy named Tom Williams. Both him and Guy Elliot were members of Reigate St Mary's Choir School.
4. Dark passion play: This is about the reactions from fans and media where everyone blamed Tuomas even tho it was a band decision. He was ripped apart, even the Finnish prime minister had an opinion.
5. Mother and Father: Tuomas took refuge at his parents house for a while, these are some of the things they told him during that time.
Tuomas was inspired by the short story "The pit and the pendulum" by Edgar Allen Poe when he wrote this masterpiece.
The first words are "The end", the last words are "The beginning". It's the end of an era and the start of a new.
When you see Marko and Emppu close to Tuomas at the end it's a thing they have thet started when this song was new. Tuomas feelings where still raw so they supported him at the end of the song. Tuomas had chosen to have Anettes song cut out of the mix in his earpiece at the shows. This was 11 years after the events, so he's mostly over it now.
The birds flying by on the screen, ravens. Which is Poes most famous poem, The Raven. Nothing is by accident.
Hi Ryan. O boy, you chose a BIG one there. Going into this without knowing the back story... But, being a musician, there is a lot to appreciate, even without knowing the back story. Watching your reaction, I know you did. You were spot on when you saw a connection with ‘The Pit and the Pendulum’. The whole title is a play on Edgar Alan Poe's story. I guess you’ve read all about the back story in the comments by now, so I think it will grab you even more when you listen to it again. Have a good weekend!
Floor is just so damn versatile, she can sing anything in any language at any time. A 70-year-old man who has all music since Elvis and she is just the best of all.
Loved the reaction! A lot of people need the backstory, but it proved you are sensitive enough to pick up the emotions as it went. Great seeing you putting it together in your head 😅 struggling with all the thoughts and emotions 👍
How to bring a song that was already beautiful, to perfection. Floor has this value 😍
Yours is the best, honest, and most intelligent reaction I've seen to this, especially with you not knowing the backstory. Tuomas has said that "The Pit and the Pendulum" seemed an apt metaphor to carry the theme of the song. He's a genius songwriter and composer, and you're right in that he has some talented musicians and an amazing singer to interpret his works of art.
Great reaction Ryan. The band is fantastic. Floor and Marko are sublime together and Floors headswing is unbeatabale.
"So...*vague hand wave*" Ok, that was probably my favorite reaction to this song yet. Yes. Exactly that.
Is that a reference to my random gestures? LOL
You had a particular moment where you just said "So...", made a vague hand gesture, and then went back to the video. It felt like a moment that you wanted to say something but had no words. Which is usually how I feel. Just struck a cord with me. 😂
That's why I have captions! LOL Sometimes my brain goes faster than I can translate into words... so I just move on, figure it out later LOL
This is a very emotional song and they emote it directly into your soul. Especially Floor. So special.
the moment you realized this was deeper and more personal.priceless.
At the beginning you put a thick schnitzel on your plate my friend 😁.
This is nothing less than a masterpiece by Tuomas.
And also for us fans one of the most important and most emotional songs. To understand the song you should know the history of the band. This is really extremely hot and many reactors have burned their fingers on it and gambled away a lot of benevolence. You had no idea, but you showed genuine interest, enthusiasm and appreciation and an attempt at interpretation. I think that's worth a lot if you don't know a lot about the band yet. 👍
And you are a personable person. 😁
Thank you, kind sir.
I appreciate that, indeed.
Tuomas wrote this song when Anette was the vocalist, but Floor has taken it to a different level emotionally. The chemistry between them all now is so perfect and Floor has been quoted as saying she will never leave Nightwish. Tuomas just simply says she’s at home with the band……
Yes, The Pit And The Pendulum was a major inspiration of this song.
Well done! Cold reaction to this one will still move just about anyone to tears with Floors voice and the epic arrangement of all of the parts. Then, after learning the background and the life events that are the basis for this song, you'll watch it again but this time you'll be full blown crying by the end.
I'm sure, had I known the story, I would have been ugly-crying by the end!
It's so cool they actually use Floors voice as an instrument not just for singing.
The pit and the pendulum (yes, it's Poe) is indeed the inspiration for the title.
😁👍
Best Regards
Sgt: NomaD
Nightwish Army, Norther Division.
Sweden.
Your reaction was pure and emotional without knowing the full backstory. Now that you know the inspiration for this opus you will appreciate it and react even more emotionally when you hear it again.
No matter how many times I hear it, The Pacific grabs me deep and brings the tears. How can such beautiful lyrics, vocals, and instrumentals be a genuine plea to have the pain of emotional turmoil literally drowned away? It's gorgeous, horrible, terrible, heavenly, and deeply sad; all at once.
This is one of the tearjerker... Masterpiece
I try so hard to push Americans towards Nightwish. I from Vegas and worked backstage to some of the greatest singers and bands in the world and none were as good a listen as this band and this singer. Ever
We got a different set of chills with you, thank you for your vision :-)
This is one of those songs. Great song without any background. Yet once you learn the backstory. Then listen again. Realise it's a masterpiece. That has so much more than expected or could be in a song.
Being you are a musician and composer I don’t think you needed to be totally immersed in NightWish and the backstory because you obviously appreciated what was going on and you felt it on a level many might not have ... nice job IMHO
I don't think it's ever 'needed' to dive into a whole backstory and to read a small library of poems before you go and listen to music. Music has to speak for itself. And I think this song does.
Excellent reaction. Genuine, heartfelt, open minded. Welcome to the world of Nightwish!! :)
The Poet and the Pendulum is probably one of my favorites. Already was even the original one, from the album, which wasn't sang by Floor. But then they did this live version with her and with all this visual effects etc.. and what was amazing got even better!! This is art, the most fascinating thing to watch, feel and enjoy.
Writing this song was the catharsis Tuomus needed to survive the rollercoaster of emotional torment between suicide and madness. Everyone experiences sadness and tears listening to this song, assisted by Floor's impecable vocals. Truly a masterpiece composition.
I saw NW in a medium size venue in Mexico City in 2015. The sound was amazing and every bit as good as the videos you’ve been reacting to. Great band with what must be a top notch road crew.
As for teary eyed, we’ve all been there many times with NW. The instrumental hammers you flat, and then Floors voice comes floating in to grab your heart and take you home.
Only the third song I’ve heard of theirs.. definitely a metal opera production.. her voice..she reminds me of someone..can you imagine this in person? Can you imagine all the people it takes? What a team. You’re fun to watch too 😁👍
They are amazing! Thanks!
I've never liked so many songs from a band I've never heard before
Her name is Floor? Where is she from? Like a metal ELO 😆
The band originates from Finland, Floor Jansen is Dutch. She is the third (and most loved, possibly) singer for the band. The bass player/vocalist (Marko) has recently left the band. Also the Drummer, Jukka, left some time ago... not too long though. They've been around for a couple decades
I am not sure what is more impressive, the impact this song has on first time listeners with no background knowledge going in or the immense appreciation for every story telling nuance once the listener hears everything led to the song. The fact that both scenarios are so potent speaks volumes. I have hear this song hundreds of times now and swear I still hear new elements. And the emotional impact never waivers. Just a masterpiece.
You got it even before it started. The pit and the pendulum. I love at .... A point there( sorry I forgot the exact time) there is 3 minutes and counting. Exactly 3 minutes later, Toumas slits his troth, the genius to put such music together with a plan past, present and future, almost. The man is a composer of ingenious abilities put together with an incredible crew of musicians. The greatest show on earth 😉
All based on real life experience from Toumas. The letter to Tarja and the fall out. Nighwish is as you know, are not a band sitting down just making up songs 🤪
the sincerity in her voice is absolutely beautiful but that for all these top notch professional musicians to be able to compose epic music like this
Oh Tuomas.... Can we have a Nightwish Army group hug?
You sir, are a man of deep thought and substance. Your reactions are so worthy of anyones time. Well done.
Thank you greatly
She sings the emotions along with the words.
This one is a tough song to get through, is so emotional and deep, every time I see a reactor watching\listening to it, I think to myself: "I hope you make it in one piece at the end of the song" I personally end up crying every time, the storytelling is magnificent between Floor and Marko, she represents the pain and angst, he's the raw anger, and both make the song absolute perfection
Thankyou Ryan for sharing this reaction with us. I have heard this masterpiece many times and it still moves me EVERY frickin' time! It's almost unfair to have that much talent in one band. Really enjoyed you trying to process this one. I look forward to more Nightwish reactions from you.
You’ve gotta have a look at Ayreon.
Start with The day that the world brakes down. Floor is in it and Simone Simons.
Floor (and Marko) is also present in the first live concert: Ayreon Universe live. Several other well known musicians are also participating.
Simone is in the second live concert: the electric castle live and other tales. Including several other well known musicians.
Excellent first impression ... without full knowledge of the backstory! This song is one of the Big Three: "Ghost Love Score" , "The Poet and the Pendulum" and " The Greatest Show On Earth". And this song is the only one that I love to listen but can't put to my playlist... Tuomas is the Master of his craft! Big Bow to him and to You Ryan. Thank You . NWSU
Ryan, this about as good as it can get for a cold reaction to this piece. I'm an old guy now, but I ran sound for some pretty capable bands for 20 years and I find everything I ever looked for in this band. I regret coming in so late, but I'm trying to make up for it. Kudos.
I don't know did you notice, but at 7 minutes you hear "i have 3 minutes and counting" and at 10 minutes he does the "suicide". Exactly 3 minutes later. This is Tuomakse's masterpiece!
Floor is an empath, she feels the lyrics and songs deeply and has the rare gift of portraying those emotions very clearly in her voice as she sings, and thereby she makes us feel the same. She has made many grown men (and women) cry, she commands the onion ninja army lol.
also, don't listen to all the "you should have done research first!"-people. listening to this blindly and with known backstory are 2 different experiences, and you can only do the totally blind one once. now you get to read up on the backstory, maybe watch some other reactors do a deep dive into the lyrics and explain everything for you, and then you get a brand new experience when you get the full blown impact of the song. you do you, there will always be ppl who feel like all reactions should follow specific patterns that they themselves enjoy the most. but if everyone did the same thing, it would get boring quickly ;)
Man that's floorgasm 😁
God bless you! Greetings from Montenegro🇲🇪 🤘
Greetings from Indiana!
Nightwish shows have allways so brilliant sound quality!!
"Why i'm teary eyed?" - Cause Floor is chopping some onions, thats why! 😆
Hi Ryan! I can clearly see that you are a real artist.
Your comments and the way you react, shows me a deep
understanding of what the music is truly about.
Thank you for this. I hope we´ll see you further with NW music.
Take care.
thank you, and I want more ideas of other personal favorite bands of you wonderful fans!
Loved you reaction, subscribed.
Floor’s voice goes straight into your soul, we all tear up when she sings like that. 🤷🏼♀️
Enjoy your Floor and Nightwish journey, there’s sooo much more! 😄
The song is about suicidal depression. It uses imagery from Poe's The pit And The Pendulum to signify the accompanying feelings like sorrow, anger, despair and eventual redemption..
I thought we'd been here before Ryan, Tuomas uses boy, (he says he's a man with a boy's heart), poet, dreamer, writer/song writer or ocean soul as a direct reference to himself, here and elsewhere you have narration by a boy, it's Tuomas speaking directly to you. The title then carries a strong clue.
Floor and Kai, who couldn't leave his drum kit anyway, were not involved in the furore about Tarja's dismissal, however, you have seen Emppu and Marko stand in support of Tuomas as this is obviously difficult for him personally; what I don't think you have seen yet is the very up-beat song before this in the set carried the chorus line "conquering the darkest places" which in the final iteration, Floor went and stood on Tuomas' podium and sang that line directly to him; to my mind in support of what she knew was coming next.
You did a grand job, your commentators have filled in all the gaps I think and given comprehensive insights to the back-story.
Before? I knew nothing of this history before seeing this video... I've sure been educated since! These topics have been discussed in various comments and topics in other threads... I'm quickly losing track 🤫
@@RyanMear Oh !!! I thought you were up to speed with Tuomas' pseudonyms, however, I hope it helps as you dive deeper into this rabbit hole, it's an exciting trip that's for sure.
Remember the text ‘only three minutes and counting’. Look what happens exactly after that amount of time.
This is my favorite Nightwish song
ha, yeah Floor reaches into your heart cause she sings with such passion to the song. You didn't do too bad going in cold, most of the time this is the only one everybody suggests to do research on cause it's so personal, even Tuomas they say told the sound man to turn off his earpiece cause he didn't want to hear the lyrics, and to see how deeply it affected him try "Master Passion Greed" which some say is aimed at Tarja's husband whom some thought caused it all, the lyrics are a little harsh but that was a long time ago and there is no live performance, Tuomas said he's never do it live cause he's not that guy, but they do know how to put on a performance and elicit feelings though.
Ryan, I see you already did "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean", so from the same concert you will find a song called "Dead Boys Poem". You won't regret. Great reaction.
This is an extremely emotional song so tears just form naturally. Add Floors vocals and it's even more so. Floor is a Metal goddes but you can find videos of her singing opera as well.
Marko's guitar work is amazing in this.
it's really wonderful to see your reaction, to see how the music affects you
it's correct to be teary-eyed!
Great job. If you continue you will have ride of your life and many tears in you eyes. Finland say thank you 🙂
You are just a couple videos in, and you've realized the beautiful mind that is Tuomas, and the way this group pulls it all together leaves me speechless every time. I see others have shared some information with you, but yes, before you review it again, read the background and I think that will make it even more meaningful. Just when you think you can't be moved anymore, you will be. In skimming the comments, look for Chris Tomashofski's comments, I think he's given a great description of the masterpiece and back-story.
Gidday from New Zealand mate, love your reactions, really cool, all the best with your Nightwish journey.
Thank you much! *sigh* New Zealand..... some day I hope to visit.
@@RyanMear you would be more than welcome
I first saw this I had no idea what it was about. I cried most of the way through it. I still cry when I listen but I feel better afterwards. It makes me appreciate life more. Best line in the song is the last one "In the beginning" it gives hope.
Obviously you did not require the back story to enjoy this extraordinary composition by Tuomas, and the amazingly well done performance of each band member. We were clueless when we watched our first reaction to this and it touched us deeply. Then we watched again with knowing the story of Tuomas's pain and cried together. For us very emotional and rewarding experience. We loved you reaction as we have each one so far.
Floor is always in the moment with her songs, which makes her touching your soul (and yes ..... it sometimes makes you speechless)..
Ryan, I hope you can find the time to react to this TOP LINEUP OF MANY MUSICAL INTRUMENTS/SINGERS: The Source is the 9th studio album from *AYREON* , a progressive metal/rock opera project by Dutch musician Arjen (Ahr-Yun) Anthony Lucassen, released on April 28, 2017. *_”The Day That The World Breaks Down”_* is a song that features all 11 (quite well known) main guest singers (you’ll be surprised) and is taken from that album. Arjen himself is telling (in subtitles) who the singers are and which instruments are used and by which standards.
Btw. This creative original clip is 13 min. long and I think you won’t regret it !!
Official (Arjen’s) clip: th-cam.com/video/oFuMKdrzPqU/w-d-xo.html
I hope so 2
You earned a sub for this reaction. Well done sir.
Thank you👍🤘
Tears everytime i watch this masterpiece. Thankyou
Indeed this song is inspired by the Pit And The Pendulum by E.A. Poe. It was written in the aftermath of firing Tarja (the first singer in the band)
Since the entire (original) band came from the same tiny town in Finland the band members knew each other from kindergarden. Also Tarja was popular like royalty in Finland. Tuomas got a lot of negative shit from the press and fans when he fired her. This combination sent Tuomas into depression. He said in an interview: "I committed suicide in the The Poet And The Pendulum so I did not have to do it in real live". The writing of the song worked "cathartic ", but playing the song hurts. The vocals are removed from his in-ear monitor, during this song.
Floor has an ability (and maybe a problem) that she picks up on peoples emotions and shares in the emotion. So therefore she had no problem to exactly catch Tuomas' emotion.
There are lots of interpretations out there of what the parts of the song mean, but I stick to this:
The acts represent the fases in the mind of a suicidal person.
Act I. White Lands Of Empathica --> this is about the traumatic loss of innocence.
Act II. Home --> this part is about raging thoughts of self hatred and a feeling of being uprooted (longing for home even if you already are home)
Act III. The Pacific --> this part is about romanticising death. How beautiful and peaceful it could be if you would just be dead.
Act iV. Dark Passion Play --> this part is about raging thoughts of anticipation about actually committing suicide and what will happen after
Act V. Mother and Father --> this part is about getting help and finding peace (without committing suicide)
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Ahh, here's the big one. I'll just sit here with my cup of tea and watch...
I hope you're enjoying it! Yeah, I went in blind....
Imagine what he is going to do with TGSOE!
Greetings from Portugal, your reactions are great welcome to the Army!!!
I truly liked your review as it sounded like a person who truly appreciates music and strives to understand it not just listen to it
Thank you!
The boy soprano at the start was Guy Elliott from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. Poe has a lot to do with the title!. The other deep song, important to Tuomas, is "Dead Boys Poem".. To think he had written what is basically his own eulogy before TPATP..... An Ocean Soul.
“How does she reach into the hearts of ten of thousands of people?”
Simple.. Becauae she’s the Soul Piercer..!
Great reaction as always!!
It is a very personal song of tuomas I think you have to read what Gabriel wrote about this beautiful song
Best Live Sounding Concert I’ve ever seen was probably Queensryche early 90’s during their Empire tour. I saw their Minneapolis show, and they played the entire Operation Mindcrime album from start to finish.
It was just amazing, nearly sounded identical to the album.
Wow!
Greetings and Love from Germany. Yes, Wacken 2013 was a special one. And 'Sold Out' in just few hours. I had the big chance, going to Wacken. Damn, that Line-up in 2013...Nightwish, Rammstein, Alice Cooper, Motörhead, Sabaton, our german Metal-Queen 'Doro', Knorkator, Deep Purple, Anthrax, Rage & Lingura Mortis, Pretty Maids...
But on that weekend, after waiting quite a time, i finaly got a free place in the Rehab hospital/center. So i said 'Goodbye' to Wacken...and 'Hello' to my second life. A sober life without demon alcohol. And i'm proud to say that i'm still sober. The choose between those two events was easy. I'm a Metalhead since 1985 and love my music. But more i love my life.....Stay Safe, my friend 💚
I'm glad for you
@@RyanMear thank you, i just watched again a lot of your react videos.. you're one of my favorite reacters. And i have only a few. For good reason. I don't like those 'fake' TH-camrs, who only care for most likes, donations, money, themselfs, you know. You're so kind, friendly... your knowlegde and passion for music is real and pure. Thats how i see you. My favorite since 1985 are Iron Maiden and Gary Moore. Big influnce and huge support in my life. Gary, i saw him once live(1989), didnt got the fame and respect he deserved. Very underated, in my opinion. I can see that only a few listen to him on their channel. However, i hope you will go on with your great work here on TH-cam. UP THE IRONS
Truly understanding the song, does require some knowledge of the group and its history. There is meaning behind the lyrics of their songs. Listening many times will bring out parts that have new understandings when you have a better knowledge of Nightwish.
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I LOVE NIGHTWISH🤘
SO GOOD 🥰
NIGHTWISH SONGS🎶🎹 ALWAYS FANTASTIC🔥🔥
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FLOOR JANSEN Can sing anything. She is a soprano,💕 with a range of more than three octaves (D3 to F6).💕 Her singing style varies from opera 💕to screaming💕 and grunting.💕
mostly she sings in English,💕 besides that she has also sung songs in Dutch,💕 German,💕 Spanish, Finnish,💕 Latin,💕 Italian💕 and Swedish💕
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for the full Nightwish experience, watch the 2013 show from the Wacken festival. in front of 82,000 people.....it's on Youube, and on DVD under the title of "Showtime, Storytime".....the video you're reacting to is from a 2 DVD set titled "Vehicle of Spirit" which is 2 separate concerts on 1 set
In the last movement it wasn't Marco singing but Tuomas, a quite rare occurence. Knowing the background it always tears my heart out.
I don't think Tuomas has a microphone, he just sings along the lyrics. He has said he will not sing ever again after some necessary vocal duties in the first album of theirs.
@@Nrde It sure doesn't seem to be Marco; the timbre is wrong. Technical a small mic hung from the ear like used in musicals isn't all that weird a gadget to use. And this song is quite something else, especially for Tuomas. Besides, the video director would have gotten at least a shot of Marco had he been singing .... in stead there's only a shot of Tuomas.
@@roykliffen9674 sorry Roy, I agree with @Tuntemattomin: it's Marko singing, even if in a lighter voice because he's backing Floor...
IMHO the director's choice to film Tuomas singing along is in order to make us know which his feelings were in that moment.
Consider also that Tuomas really isn't a man who like to show them, and I think the director "stole" this bit of his performance because of what this song means to Tuomas...
Greetings from Italy.
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Do 7 Days To The Wolves , same concert , great song
Apparently I'm not aloud to do anymore from this show....I have to do my homework! jk...I respect the band and fans but I will choose whatever the hell I want lol
@@RyanMear Ignore anyone who tries to tell you what you "must" do, or that you're reacting to songs in the "wrong" order. There's a small but noisy element that wants everyone to have the same experience. I love it when reactors see a title that just catches their unique personal interest, and does something different. It might even be fun to try a song off of the most recent album (Human Nature) even though there are no live shows for it yet--just to see a bit of "then and now" evolution of the band's sound.
This is powerful stuff.
Great reaction 🤘😁🤘
I was like 😬 first, but that went just great. Now you can digg in all the background stuff and listen to this masterpiece again. And again and again....
Keep up the good work reacting to NW.
NW music makes you whole ♥️
Greetings from 🇧🇻 & 🇫🇮
The army has arrived in your comments.. hey bud. Glad we're here. Let's go
Wow; great reaction!!! You feel the good music, men!!!