The 500e is the only one of the three that will let you go for a 300-500 km holiday travel with more ease, both because of its better range, but more importantly because of its faster charging. It's nice to say "they all go from 10-80% in about 30 minutes", but from 10-80, the Fiat actually does it in 25 minutes rather than 30 (while the others are more in the 30-35 span) AND it has a larger battery, so those 70% charged are _more_ ... But even if you never leave the city, but can't charge at home: It'll make you go to the charging station at least a day or two later.
Looking at getting the 500e next month, the long range is excellent but the inclusion of autonomous driving is a must have and will certainly make commuting less stressful!
kneee room vrs boot space. thboth probleems could have been solved easily with a movable back seat. either you move the seat backwards to het mor knee room, or if you are only two, move the backseat 15 cm in forward direction forward to get a lot of more bootspace. it would increase the practicability (what a monstrous word), and a small rail construction wwould ccost only little money.... maybe someeone invents a solution?
normally you don´t need this cable, because the charging stations have their own and the wallv´boxes as well. and you can buy a frunk for the fiat, but not for the other two
I feel like the 500e bespoke platform is a missed opportunity. They could have made it RWD and put a front trunk like the original 500. What they actually made appears to be an electrified iteration of the modern ICE 500. There's even a whole bunch of empty space in the back under the vehicle where a spare tire would normally go, but there's no spare nor extra batteries, just wasted space on a small car (where space is at a huge premium).
Three great cars and a great review, tough decision love all three but on a practical level would be between the mini and 500. Would probably go for 500, but all these electric cars are expensive and that’s why the roll out will continue to be slow.
The only difference is leasing them ... A Honda is about 400 a month a mini is about 330 upto 400 for the ones u want ... The fiat for the decent mid spec 250 a month 300 max
this is obligatory for every kind of braking. but regen braking is rather slow , as an aattettive driver you would realize that even without brakelights
It will be interesting to see the pricing of the ora cat. It could be pitched at these 3 with more space and range. Please review it if you can get your hands on one when it lands.
We love the MINI, don’t get me wrong, but back then, we just felt the other two offered something different. Something that didn’t feel compromised. However, I have just driven the new MINI Cooper SE, and let me tell you it wouldn’t finish in third place now!!! (Ps, I had the original MINI Electric as a long term test car over 5 months and I loved it, so don’t think we didn’t like it!!)
I bought a Fiat 500e La Prima last June and whilst it is a great little car I have two criticisms of it. Firstly the remaining range predictions are hopeless and the claim that it could ever return 199 miles is ridiculous. I would suggets that about 155 miles is what you'll get if you drive it carefully. Secondly the software is absolutely abysmal. This may be becasue the La Prima model has so many sophisticated features which dont talk to each other properly but in any case mine has been upgraded a number of times and yet the software is still dreadful. The car was clearly released before the development had been completed. By way of comparisson I have just taken delivery of a Hyundai Ionic 5 long range with RWD. The software is excellent and works flawlessly despite the car being even more sophisticated than the Fiat and the range remaining prediction is very accurate.
I’d say that Hyundai and Kia are about the very best when it comes to range prediction accuracy. I’ve driven long distances in Kia’s and they always instill a confidence in range accuracy. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
do you really believe the WLTP measueres? they have nothing to do with street reality, but only for COMPARING reasons. so it is a relative ranking. those who have a higher WLTP cionsuption will consume more in reality no car reaches these distances. and the infotainment/software ist really OK, it has a clear structure and works perfectly. the features are the same as in other models, and if you are intellectually overwhelmed by that, you should not drive a car. i have absolutely no problem with that. most of the features are not reaaly needed in daiy driving. if it overwhelms you you should avoid a tesla where for example the glovebox can only be opened with a touchscreen command in a sublevel.
Id personal place the Mini Electric ahead of the other 2 cars. Watched a lot of reviewers and the Mini usually comes out as number 1. While the Honda e i think looks great, I showed it to a couple of friends and they though it looked like a Toy Car. Also an owner friend recently said the screens where a bit gimmicky and he was starting to experience a lot of creaking noises from the dashboard , which questions its build quality and how it will stand up on rough roads. He also said the Big screens are a distraction when driving, and that the Rear view Camera was useless at night as the picture was very grainy. The Fiat 500e while a pretty, well built car is not practical at all for Space. One viewer described it as a rocking chair when the regen kicks in the car rocks forwards and backwards making him feel nauseous. These where drivers with longterm experience driving the cars and having bought them while initially impressed they where looking to change and the Mine e was on their list despite being built on an ice platform. Guess it comes down to personal choice at the end of the day. Allways look forward to your reviews , whether we agree or not.
@Stephen Fahy that is an interesting comment. One thing I did omit from my review was exactly as you mention about the Fiat's regen. It isn't as smooth as the MINI's or the Honda's and not being able to adjust it is a definite issue. So, hands up, and fair play. We forgot to mention that. Interesting what you say about the long-term ownership of the Honda, although we didn't find issues with our test car which has covered a reasonable amount of miles. You can switch the interior rear view mirror to a standard mirror in fairness though. However, what I will say, is that this was a very closely fought test. This wasn't just me, it was with my two colleagues, and we drove all three cars over a distance, and we swayed from one to another throughout our time with the cars. I love the MINI, and for pure driving pleasure, it can't be touched by the other two. Oddly, I think the Fiat (despite being the smallest and cheapest) was the most refined in terms of noise insulation, and of course, its the best value for money, and you can have a convertible. In the end, though, we all agreed that it was the Honda that we all wanted to live with. The extra rear doors, the feeling of space inside, the layout of the controls (not just the screens) and the balance of good performance, easy to drive, looks and how it made us "feel" was just too much for the other two to overcome. It was really tight though! And every time I drive that MINI, I just love it. And the Fiat is still close to my heart having had 3 500s personally, and I started my motor trade career with Fiat thirty years ago! Anyway, as you say, its a personal choice, and we love hearing from viewers such as you with your thoughts and comments to challenge ours. It's what makes this job fun! Thanks again for continuing to watch and support the channel, and taking the time to comment. Stay connected to us for lots of content coming up! Bryan, Rod and Charlie @ AutoEV.
Reviews? Test drive em yourself.. they are all Rhubarb.. terrible ride Quality.. bounce all over on rough roads. Lecky cars are heavy, they have solid suspension...
Thank you for being the only [honest] auto-journalist around, who acknowledges the superiority of the Honda e over it's direct rivals. My love for the e will be everlasting, even more so, that I won't be driving one on a daily basis. Because, let's be coherent here for a minute : a two cars home is not consistent with the ecological philosophy of the whole gobbledygook, and the Honda e can be many things, but not a family car for...family trips. So I had to find a replacement for my misbegotten passion. A replacement that has similar flaws to the Honda e (to heavy, too thirsty), but also the striking exterior/minimalistic interior design, some impressive technical features (those adaptive headlights are black magic)...aaaaand can achieve 300 km on a motorway-journey. You guessed it, the Polestar 2. When will you be reviewing the Polestar 2, by the way ?
Hi, great to have you watching, and thank you for your comments. You'll be pleased to know that we have already driven the Polestar 2 in dual motor guise (go and have a look at the other videos on the channel) and plan to feature it again soon (we love it by the way).
@@AutoEV Mea maxima culpa! After I covered my head with ashes (and diesel grime), I have to confess my clueless-ness, as to how I could have forgotten your excellent review of the P2-LR-DM (a distant relative of R2-D2). I watched it at the time, of course, but as my heart had only space for the Honda e back then, the P2 review slipped my derelict memory. So, will you be doing a review of the LR-SM next? Could someone finally tell the public if the SM really goes further on a charge than the DM ? I am still undecided as to which makes more sense. Well, of course the SM (cheaper, eligible for bigger government subsidies, less noise from the single motor, less chances to end up in jail with a 164 km/h restraint, etc), but the 400 ponies make so much more fun. And it feels more stable on slippery roads (despite the extra weight)... If heaven on earth existed, the perfect garages of paradise would each contain a Polestar 2 (with the autonomy of a BMW i4) and a Honda e (priced like a Dacia Spring).
@@kevanmccaffrey8513 the fiat is rather comfortable, i know because i have one. you must never expext much comfort with the small wheelbases. and be honest: these cars are not made for rough field tracks or roman cobblestone roads with potholes or so. they are made für urban traffic.
All three of these are just a bit small for us, just watched it for fun! What a pity Honda don't seem to be capitalising on the brilliance of this car and bringing anything else slightly larger out shortly; the inside of the Mini looked like a dungeon compared to the other two!
I like your enthusiasm! - but why on earth are these things so much more expensive than their petrol equivalents? - does it really cost that much more for an electric motor and battery pack compared with an engine, gearbox and clutch? I've a suspicion that manufacturers are making a whopping great profit selling these things to affluent people committed to the idea of owning an EV. Hope I'm wrong.
you must take into account that the batteries are (still)exensive, they make half the price of the car! but on the long run they are cheaper in maintaining becausethe don´t have hundreds of parts petrol cars need to work. the only parts that wear out are brakes and tyres, like any other car. but that´s about all. there is only the battery, the e-engine which never wears out, and the charging electronics. oh i forgot the windshield wipers 🙂
i was looking to find the trunk problem. sorry to say you diddn´t try hard enough for example the fiat: two flatlaid suitcases piled, and one upright, besides. that would surely fit...or if you lay them on their side, one behind the other and two upright besides in the same order... there might be enoughh space, sorry i can´t send a picture here, but i think you understand i think if the suitcses were strored more intelligent it could be four. you didn´t try hard / long enough to find sevceral solutions. additionally i must say: i would try out suitcases the way that they fit in an optimal way. in your example: it the two suitcases were only about 5 cm less (upright measure) the two would have fitted with two more on top, i say that in other clips where they had used suitcases of different size for an optimal COMBINATION i would recommend that yo make a "better" boot test.... concerning the rest you did a really good job ( forgive mistakes if i made some, i am not a native speaker) by the way: it was not only the battery but the look as well, which let me choose the fiat. the honda looks like a playmobil car. the mini is really ugly: it´s the proportions which really annoy me. the front ist too massive. we see faces in a car´s front view, and the headliights look like a bad temperted toad.
Might be slightly biased but I was shocked the Mini came third, both from the perspective of the reviews in this video and from first hand experience. Allowing for my personal preferences, why would people choose to buy a car that doesn’t put a smile on your face? The build quality; the fact that everything works as it should; and most of all the performance and handling of the Mini guarantee you more smiles per mile than any other.
Don't be disheartened Paul, this was a narrow third place. Any of the three could have won on their particular merits. We all love the MINI, and I adored my long-termer from last year. Its just that the Honda is so good (rather than the others being bad) that we all agreed it was the winner. But thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
To be honest, it was such a tight result, either could have won. We just felt that the style, tech and quality gave it the edge. It was the car all 3 of us wanted to own more than the other two. As I said, it felt like a new design classic. But the MINI and Fiat are so close, it's a tough one, and we wouldn't blame anyone who thought the final order to be different. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Bryan @ AutoEV.
@@AutoEV you must admit that the iconic design of the fiat beats them all. the honda looks like a playmobile car and the mini is an ugly shoebox. look at their "faces" and you know what i mean
@@luciewilliams5915 I can't recall if I am honest. I do know that it hold sin Range mode as it is effectively one-pedal driving and so holds the car on the brakes at a standstill.
Why would you complain about range and space when these are by their very nature small city cars, sorry I just see this review as a bit pointless. It would be different if your review was for a large family car. 🤔
Andy, I take your point on board, however, when we reviewed the Renault Zoe and kept saying that it was a city car, and so range wasn’t important, I was criticised for saying it as many don’t limit the car’s use to the city. Therefore range has to factor. Also, in terms of space, these cars can be used on the school run, so back seat space is important there in that instance, hence the Honda being better for having 5 doors. However, after all of that being said, the car with the shortest range, and smallest boot won the test, so as you can see, we didn’t prioritise it over the ability of the car to be fun and put a smile on your face. Hope that helps explain our reasons. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Bryan @ AutoEV.
why? it is more expensive than for example my(!) fiat, has a smaller battery and smaller range. and it looks ugly. and the dashboard looks terrible. compared with the fiat it is a shoebox. and the mini is no more a mini, it´s just the same name, while the 500e is still a 500 with its iconic design.
The Honda E is the ugliest car I’ve ever seen (the outside of it anyway). I like the idea of the info screens and the digital cameras instead of normal wing mirrors though. The Fiat 500 is okay, especially the convertible, but it’d be the Mini every time for me, without a doubt.
oh my god: how can you choose such an ugly car. which is more expensive, with a lower battery capacity and range? it has only the same name "mini" but the reconstruction/design failed completely, while the fiat 500e is still a fiat 500 with an iconic design. from the side view silhouette you would recognize the fiat immediately , but not the mini.
never, because te battery is the most expensive part of an EV, normally half the price of the car. and even the chinese do "only cook with water" as we say
@@friederich66 It WAS half the price of the car, ten years ago. Battery costs ten years ago was around $400/Kwh. Today LiFePo4 (LFP) batteries are less than $85/kwh
@@AutoEV sorry but you are completely wrong sales numbers show that people want this car, anhd why do theyx? b3ecause they jnow it is a good car. the fiat 500 is by far the best selling car in this caergory. in 20222 fiat was #4 with 52538 cars sold, mini cooper on #15 with 26712 cars. roughly half the selling numbers. guess why? guess why ->I have chosen no mini but a fiat 500e?
@@friederich66 No, its not wrong, but an opinion. And opinions are personal and not right or wrong. In OUR opinion, the Honda e is the best car to drive of the three. Its the one we put first of all three cars, and still would. And we love the Fiat and the MINI too. In fact, I've owned 3 Fiat 500s, and 2 MINIs (Including one I have at the moment), but I would still put the Honda first as it displayed the best all round performance in our test. Irrespective whether or not Honda sell a single one of them or not, its the one we prefer.
For me the Honda E is an ugly car that looks like an Austin Allegro. At least they don't sell it in sludge brown! The Mini and the 500E are much better looking but it was the range of the 500E that made me get one and at £226 pcm incl maintenance on a lease for the Icon model over 3 years it was a no-brainer
All junk poser cars, no range..way tooo expensive... test drive any lecky car on a average bumpy road before u buy... this will make your decision easy. U bounce all over, heavy cars hard suspension to cope. Bad brakes. Lock up if u brake on metal road grids especially in rain. Slide.. dangerous. later in Decade they will be better all round.. but these early ones are all Rhubarb. Had 2. Test drove a few, all bad on bad roads.. now got Prius.smooth ride Superior to any electric car.. except for high end ones.. but there not for average person.
if it wasn´t impolite i would call someone whith these arguments and opinions an idiot. i bet you never drove any of the three. i have the fiat and it is not bumpy. the brakes are really good: 36m/100 kmh. my urban rane is ~350 km with 11.5 kWh/100 km. sspension is very ok, because it is an urban car hhere streets are flat, and it is not a racing car. you are totally prejudiced. i taket any bet: if ever you would drive a fiat 500e as a test you would change your mind. it is an urban car for a single person or a (older) couple like us. we do not miss our BMW active tourer for only one second. it has all we need. it has no 100´s parts like a combustion car that can wear out or break down or must be exchanged regularly. inspection is done in 30 mnutes and costs less than just the oil for the BMW. look inside the motor cabinet. all you see is the electronic part with the orange high voltige cables and the bottle for windscreen wiping. there is nothing to maintain than to fill that and exchange the break liquid every two years. no weak sstarter battey in winter. the only things that wear out are brakes, tyses and windshield wiper as in any other car.the price? it is expensive because of the batteries. if course it is no choice for a narrow minded petrol head.
The 500e is the only one of the three that will let you go for a 300-500 km holiday travel with more ease, both because of its better range, but more importantly because of its faster charging. It's nice to say "they all go from 10-80% in about 30 minutes", but from 10-80, the Fiat actually does it in 25 minutes rather than 30 (while the others are more in the 30-35 span) AND it has a larger battery, so those 70% charged are _more_ ... But even if you never leave the city, but can't charge at home: It'll make you go to the charging station at least a day or two later.
I would 100% go for the Fiat because of the body and interior style and the range! Love it!
I would too. Italians know how to style cars.
Looking at getting the 500e next month, the long range is excellent but the inclusion of autonomous driving is a must have and will certainly make commuting less stressful!
I cast my vote for the Fiat 500e !!!!!
Such a tough choice!!!! I like all of them for different reasons.
kneee room vrs boot space. thboth probleems could have been solved easily with a movable back seat. either you move the seat backwards to het mor knee room, or if you are only two, move the backseat 15 cm in forward direction forward to get a lot of more bootspace. it would increase the practicability (what a monstrous word), and a small rail construction wwould ccost only little money....
maybe someeone invents a solution?
My Honda does have cable storage under the boot floor!!
Aye could of took the two cable bags out..put travel cases in the the cable bags on top like he did the fiat
normally you don´t need this cable, because the charging stations have their own and the wallv´boxes as well. and you can buy a frunk for the fiat, but not for the other two
I feel like the 500e bespoke platform is a missed opportunity. They could have made it RWD and put a front trunk like the original 500. What they actually made appears to be an electrified iteration of the modern ICE 500. There's even a whole bunch of empty space in the back under the vehicle where a spare tire would normally go, but there's no spare nor extra batteries, just wasted space on a small car (where space is at a huge premium).
Another brilliant piece Bryan. I cant get enough Honda E content right now.
Good to have you here @Nathan Gore-Brown. A valued viewer, verging on Royalty!! Bryan
All Rhubarb. Test drive on any rough road" most" it only looks gud...
Three great cars and a great review, tough decision love all three but on a practical level would be between the mini and 500. Would probably go for 500, but all these electric cars are expensive and that’s why the roll out will continue to be slow.
The only difference is leasing them ... A Honda is about 400 a month a mini is about 330 upto 400 for the ones u want ... The fiat for the decent mid spec 250 a month 300 max
If regenerative braking is used, do the brake lights come on to warn the driver behind.
Yes. If brake force exceeds a certain level, the rear brake lights activate.
this is obligatory for every kind of braking. but regen braking is rather slow , as an aattettive driver you would realize that even without brakelights
There is nothing remotely “mini” about the Mini! The 2001 car had the wheelbase of the original Range Rover and it’s only got bigger since!
And now you’re likely to survive a crash in it 😂 progress
the mini is not at all a mini, (it is only the same name) but the fiat 500e is a true fiat500
It will be interesting to see the pricing of the ora cat. It could be pitched at these 3 with more space and range. Please review it if you can get your hands on one when it lands.
After this review & having driven all 3 + a couple of others we bought the Mini & TBH we just could not work out how this review put it in 3rd place.
We love the MINI, don’t get me wrong, but back then, we just felt the other two offered something different. Something that didn’t feel compromised.
However, I have just driven the new MINI Cooper SE, and let me tell you it wouldn’t finish in third place now!!!
(Ps, I had the original MINI Electric as a long term test car over 5 months and I loved it, so don’t think we didn’t like it!!)
I bought a Fiat 500e La Prima last June and whilst it is a great little car I have two criticisms of it. Firstly the remaining range predictions are hopeless and the claim that it could ever return 199 miles is ridiculous. I would suggets that about 155 miles is what you'll get if you drive it carefully. Secondly the software is absolutely abysmal. This may be becasue the La Prima model has so many sophisticated features which dont talk to each other properly but in any case mine has been upgraded a number of times and yet the software is still dreadful. The car was clearly released before the development had been completed.
By way of comparisson I have just taken delivery of a Hyundai Ionic 5 long range with RWD. The software is excellent and works flawlessly despite the car being even more sophisticated than the Fiat and the range remaining prediction is very accurate.
I’d say that Hyundai and Kia are about the very best when it comes to range prediction accuracy. I’ve driven long distances in Kia’s and they always instill a confidence in range accuracy.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
do you really believe the WLTP measueres? they have nothing to do with street reality, but only for COMPARING reasons. so it is a relative ranking. those who have a higher WLTP cionsuption will consume more in reality no car reaches these distances. and the infotainment/software ist really OK, it has a clear structure and works perfectly. the features are the same as in other models, and if you are intellectually overwhelmed by that, you should not drive a car. i have absolutely no problem with that. most of the features are not reaaly needed in daiy driving. if it overwhelms you you should avoid a tesla where for example the glovebox can only be opened with a touchscreen command in a sublevel.
Loving this
Always, always great to hear from you Wayne! Glad you enjoyed it. Bryan.
Id personal place the Mini Electric ahead of the other 2 cars. Watched a lot of reviewers and the Mini usually comes out as number 1. While the Honda e i think looks great, I showed it to a couple of friends and they though it looked like a Toy Car. Also an owner friend recently said the screens where a bit gimmicky and he was starting to experience a lot of creaking noises from the dashboard , which questions its build quality and how it will stand up on rough roads. He also said the Big screens are a distraction when driving, and that the Rear view Camera was useless at night as the picture was very grainy. The Fiat 500e while a pretty, well built car is not practical at all for Space. One viewer described it as a rocking chair when the regen kicks in the car rocks forwards and backwards making him feel nauseous. These where drivers with longterm experience driving the cars and having bought them while initially impressed they where looking to change and the Mine e was on their list despite being built on an ice platform. Guess it comes down to personal choice at the end of the day. Allways look forward to your reviews , whether we agree or not.
@Stephen Fahy that is an interesting comment. One thing I did omit from my review was exactly as you mention about the Fiat's regen. It isn't as smooth as the MINI's or the Honda's and not being able to adjust it is a definite issue. So, hands up, and fair play. We forgot to mention that. Interesting what you say about the long-term ownership of the Honda, although we didn't find issues with our test car which has covered a reasonable amount of miles. You can switch the interior rear view mirror to a standard mirror in fairness though. However, what I will say, is that this was a very closely fought test. This wasn't just me, it was with my two colleagues, and we drove all three cars over a distance, and we swayed from one to another throughout our time with the cars. I love the MINI, and for pure driving pleasure, it can't be touched by the other two. Oddly, I think the Fiat (despite being the smallest and cheapest) was the most refined in terms of noise insulation, and of course, its the best value for money, and you can have a convertible. In the end, though, we all agreed that it was the Honda that we all wanted to live with. The extra rear doors, the feeling of space inside, the layout of the controls (not just the screens) and the balance of good performance, easy to drive, looks and how it made us "feel" was just too much for the other two to overcome. It was really tight though! And every time I drive that MINI, I just love it. And the Fiat is still close to my heart having had 3 500s personally, and I started my motor trade career with Fiat thirty years ago! Anyway, as you say, its a personal choice, and we love hearing from viewers such as you with your thoughts and comments to challenge ours. It's what makes this job fun! Thanks again for continuing to watch and support the channel, and taking the time to comment. Stay connected to us for lots of content coming up! Bryan, Rod and Charlie @ AutoEV.
Reviews? Test drive em yourself.. they are all Rhubarb.. terrible ride Quality.. bounce all over on rough roads. Lecky cars are heavy, they have solid suspension...
500 loving🔥
Thank you for being the only [honest] auto-journalist around, who acknowledges the superiority of the Honda e over it's direct rivals. My love for the e will be everlasting, even more so, that I won't be driving one on a daily basis. Because, let's be coherent here for a minute : a two cars home is not consistent with the ecological philosophy of the whole gobbledygook, and the Honda e can be many things, but not a family car for...family trips. So I had to find a replacement for my misbegotten passion. A replacement that has similar flaws to the Honda e (to heavy, too thirsty), but also the striking exterior/minimalistic interior design, some impressive technical features (those adaptive headlights are black magic)...aaaaand can achieve 300 km on a motorway-journey. You guessed it, the Polestar 2. When will you be reviewing the Polestar 2, by the way ?
Hi, great to have you watching, and thank you for your comments. You'll be pleased to know that we have already driven the Polestar 2 in dual motor guise (go and have a look at the other videos on the channel) and plan to feature it again soon (we love it by the way).
@@AutoEV Mea maxima culpa! After I covered my head with ashes (and diesel grime), I have to confess my clueless-ness, as to how I could have forgotten your excellent review of the P2-LR-DM (a distant relative of R2-D2). I watched it at the time, of course, but as my heart had only space for the Honda e back then, the P2 review slipped my derelict memory. So, will you be doing a review of the LR-SM next? Could someone finally tell the public if the SM really goes further on a charge than the DM ? I am still undecided as to which makes more sense. Well, of course the SM (cheaper, eligible for bigger government subsidies, less noise from the single motor, less chances to end up in jail with a 164 km/h restraint, etc), but the 400 ponies make so much more fun. And it feels more stable on slippery roads (despite the extra weight)... If heaven on earth existed, the perfect garages of paradise would each contain a Polestar 2 (with the autonomy of a BMW i4) and a Honda e (priced like a Dacia Spring).
They all have rock hard suspension... if u dont mind being throw about on bad road surfaces.. spend 3year leasing one
@@kevanmccaffrey8513 the fiat is rather comfortable, i know because i have one. you must never expext much comfort with the small wheelbases. and be honest: these cars are not made for rough field tracks or roman cobblestone roads with potholes or so. they are made für urban traffic.
All three of these are just a bit small for us, just watched it for fun! What a pity Honda don't seem to be capitalising on the brilliance of this car and bringing anything else slightly larger out shortly; the inside of the Mini looked like a dungeon compared to the other two!
I like your enthusiasm! - but why on earth are these things so much more expensive than their petrol equivalents? - does it really cost that much more for an electric motor and battery pack compared with an engine, gearbox and clutch? I've a suspicion that manufacturers are making a whopping great profit selling these things to affluent people committed to the idea of owning an EV. Hope I'm wrong.
U are hoping for wrong thing. Margins will go down if that is the case. Problem is margins are probably very small.
you must take into account that the batteries are (still)exensive, they make half the price of the car! but on the long run they are cheaper in maintaining becausethe don´t have hundreds of parts petrol cars need to work. the only parts that wear out are brakes and tyres, like any other car. but that´s about all. there is only the battery, the e-engine which never wears out, and the charging electronics.
oh i forgot the windshield wipers 🙂
i was looking to find the trunk problem. sorry to say you diddn´t try hard enough for example the fiat: two flatlaid suitcases piled, and one upright, besides. that would surely fit...or if you lay them on their side, one behind the other and two upright besides in the same order... there might be enoughh space, sorry i can´t send a picture here, but i think you understand
i think if the suitcses were strored more intelligent it could be four. you didn´t try hard / long enough to find sevceral solutions.
additionally i must say: i would try out suitcases the way that they fit in an optimal way. in your example: it the two suitcases were only about 5 cm less (upright measure) the two would have fitted with two more on top, i say that in other clips where they had used suitcases of different size for an optimal COMBINATION
i would recommend that yo make a "better" boot test....
concerning the rest you did a really good job
( forgive mistakes if i made some, i am not a native speaker)
by the way: it was not only the battery but the look as well, which let me choose the fiat. the honda looks like a playmobil car.
the mini is really ugly: it´s the proportions which really annoy me. the front ist too massive. we see faces in a car´s front view, and the headliights look like a bad temperted toad.
Might be slightly biased but I was shocked the Mini came third, both from the perspective of the reviews in this video and from first hand experience. Allowing for my personal preferences, why would people choose to buy a car that doesn’t put a smile on your face? The build quality; the fact that everything works as it should; and most of all the performance and handling of the Mini guarantee you more smiles per mile than any other.
Don't be disheartened Paul, this was a narrow third place. Any of the three could have won on their particular merits. We all love the MINI, and I adored my long-termer from last year. Its just that the Honda is so good (rather than the others being bad) that we all agreed it was the winner. But thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
In the US it is our only option. The Honda seems like it is geared towards a younger crowd, but I love the retro/tech look to the interior.
Surprised you picked the Honda. I will buy that just for how it looks, but that range is a bummer.
To be honest, it was such a tight result, either could have won. We just felt that the style, tech and quality gave it the edge. It was the car all 3 of us wanted to own more than the other two. As I said, it felt like a new design classic. But the MINI and Fiat are so close, it's a tough one, and we wouldn't blame anyone who thought the final order to be different. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Bryan @ AutoEV.
@@AutoEV I am totally with you on the style element. It's certainly different and attractive.
@@AutoEV you must admit that the iconic design of the fiat beats them all.
the honda looks like a playmobile car and the mini is an ugly shoebox. look at their "faces" and you know what i mean
What’s the Fiat like on a hill? Does it roll back? x
Hi @Lucie. No, not in ‘range’ mode, the car has a hill hold assist where it will hold the car on the brakes.
@@AutoEV so it doesn’t hold in normal mode? x
@@luciewilliams5915 I can't recall if I am honest. I do know that it hold sin Range mode as it is effectively one-pedal driving and so holds the car on the brakes at a standstill.
Very Nice Review!!!!! Συγχαρητήρια!!!! ;)
Yor most important video of the year.
We are going to be doing a lot more group test videos in the future, so I’m glad you enjoyed this one.
@@AutoEV As long as the Honda e wins all contests...
Shame the honda is overpriced vasty when it comes to pcp and lease, over 400 on lease and 500 on pcp
Why would you complain about range and space when these are by their very nature small city cars, sorry I just see this review as a bit pointless. It would be different if your review was for a large family car. 🤔
Andy, I take your point on board, however, when we reviewed the Renault Zoe and kept saying that it was a city car, and so range wasn’t important, I was criticised for saying it as many don’t limit the car’s use to the city. Therefore range has to factor. Also, in terms of space, these cars can be used on the school run, so back seat space is important there in that instance, hence the Honda being better for having 5 doors. However, after all of that being said, the car with the shortest range, and smallest boot won the test, so as you can see, we didn’t prioritise it over the ability of the car to be fun and put a smile on your face. Hope that helps explain our reasons. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Bryan @ AutoEV.
great comparison review. I like the Fiat but i would probably buy the Mini
why? it is more expensive than for example my(!) fiat, has a smaller battery and smaller range. and it looks ugly. and the dashboard looks terrible. compared with the fiat it is a shoebox. and the mini is no more a mini, it´s just the same name, while the 500e is still a 500 with its iconic design.
The Honda E is the ugliest car I’ve ever seen (the outside of it anyway). I like the idea of the info screens and the digital cameras instead of normal wing mirrors though. The Fiat 500 is okay, especially the convertible, but it’d be the Mini every time for me, without a doubt.
oh my god: how can you choose such an ugly car. which is more expensive, with a lower battery capacity and range? it has only the same name "mini" but the reconstruction/design failed completely, while the fiat 500e is still a fiat 500 with an iconic design. from the side view silhouette you would recognize the fiat immediately , but not the mini.
These companies are going to get creamed by the Chinese when they show up with better cars for $12-!5k
never, because te battery is the most expensive part of an EV, normally half the price of the car. and even the chinese do "only cook with water" as we say
@@friederich66 It WAS half the price of the car, ten years ago. Battery costs ten years ago was around $400/Kwh. Today LiFePo4 (LFP) batteries are less than $85/kwh
I took the Mini for a test drive and my god did I enjoy it.. Do much that Im probably gonna sell my Saab and get the Mini.
did you test the 500e?
Honda e - a standout EV for the future ?
It's sales numbers are abysmal
I have yet to see the first one out on the streets in Belgium
Sales figures don’t dictate whether or not a car is good or not. The MK4 Ford Escort was the top selling car in the UK in its day and it was terrible.
@@AutoEV It's not a good enough car for the silly money Honda wants for it. That's why it ain't selling.
@@AutoEV sorry but you are completely wrong sales numbers show that people want this car, anhd why do theyx? b3ecause they jnow it is a good car. the fiat 500 is by far the best selling car in this caergory. in 20222 fiat was #4 with 52538 cars sold, mini cooper on #15 with 26712 cars. roughly half the selling numbers. guess why? guess why ->I have chosen no mini but a fiat 500e?
@@friederich66 No, its not wrong, but an opinion. And opinions are personal and not right or wrong. In OUR opinion, the Honda e is the best car to drive of the three. Its the one we put first of all three cars, and still would. And we love the Fiat and the MINI too. In fact, I've owned 3 Fiat 500s, and 2 MINIs (Including one I have at the moment), but I would still put the Honda first as it displayed the best all round performance in our test. Irrespective whether or not Honda sell a single one of them or not, its the one we prefer.
the mini is ok, honda is oh so ugly, its the fiat for me and can't wait for the abarth for the uk, game changer.
good choice, but the abarth is not sooo much better but extremely expensive. i fear you woud be disappionted-
Nice review and agree with the technical assessments but my only problem is that the Honda design is so ugly that I would never buy it.
For me the Honda E is an ugly car that looks like an Austin Allegro. At least they don't sell it in sludge brown! The Mini and the 500E are much better looking but it was the range of the 500E that made me get one and at £226 pcm incl maintenance on a lease for the Icon model over 3 years it was a no-brainer
We have more on the 500 coming soon! Well done on your choice of car.
@@AutoEV where is it?after one year i didn´t find it on autoEV..
@@friederich66 th-cam.com/video/6A3TaiD81NU/w-d-xo.html
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All junk poser cars, no range..way tooo expensive... test drive any lecky car on a average bumpy road before u buy... this will make your decision easy. U bounce all over, heavy cars hard suspension to cope. Bad brakes. Lock up if u brake on metal road grids especially in rain. Slide.. dangerous. later in Decade they will be better all round.. but these early ones are all Rhubarb. Had 2. Test drove a few, all bad on bad roads.. now got Prius.smooth ride Superior to any electric car.. except for high end ones.. but there not for average person.
if it wasn´t impolite i would call someone whith these arguments and opinions an idiot. i bet you never drove any of the three.
i have the fiat and it is not bumpy. the brakes are really good: 36m/100 kmh. my urban rane is ~350 km with 11.5 kWh/100 km. sspension is very ok, because it is an urban car hhere streets are flat, and it is not a racing car. you are totally prejudiced. i taket any bet: if ever you would drive a fiat 500e as a test you would change your mind. it is an urban car for a single person or a (older) couple like us. we do not miss our BMW active tourer for only one second. it has all we need. it has no 100´s parts like a combustion car that can wear out or break down or must be exchanged regularly. inspection is done in 30 mnutes and costs less than just the oil for the BMW. look inside the motor cabinet. all you see is the electronic part with the orange high voltige cables and the bottle for windscreen wiping. there is nothing to maintain than to fill that and exchange the break liquid every two years. no weak sstarter battey in winter. the only things that wear out are brakes, tyses and windshield wiper as in any other car.the price? it is expensive because of the batteries. if course it is no choice for a narrow minded petrol head.
Let me watch the video first, before I decide whether I like it or not.
Please do….
You're so wrong with you styling assessment
Why do you say that? Interested to hear your opinion.
Sorry, but any TH-camr who says "Without further Ado" automatically gets a downvote from me regardless of how good the video is!
Honda shit range , looks like a polo, will not sell at this price