i have frostwatcher in the oven right now as i just got last part from deathstalker. excited to use and integrate with ngl your build more than likely ty
i tried it with this, and it is way handy in close range. But that rifle gives her speed which is so refreshing, and the clusters have deep range and the rifle can match it. But yeah, the burst SMG and burst ice combo is cool.
@@EKayyyyyyy for mobbing you'd be better off with a rare reactor and a specific damage to legion (darkness, truth, immortality) - unless you really wish to farm reactors
hands down Heiley needs a transcendent that gives her a speed buff. or they could rework her 3 so that while you are slowed her grapling hook recharge time is reduced. She is legit Artillery and suffers all the same problems of Artillery. Its great to have if you can get it there and set up to be used.
I have just returned to the game after a break for a month but love Hailey and this is exactly what I needed as I love gun builds but also love her turret. 👏
I was excited to get Frost Watcher but Perforator is the perfect mobbing gun for her. I just don't see a point of Frost Watcher until it's buffed or Cryogenic Cluster shot either since Perf 1 shots packs with a bigger range on a crit.
Please show the attribute rolls when showcasing guns in these build videos. I just got FrostWatcher out of the oven and I am trying to figure out if I go the usual 4 (firearm, rate, dmg, weak) or something else that is particular to Hailey. Thanks for the video, I've enjoyed your content since you started doing The Division 2 (I have 11,101 hours into D2...only 800 into 1stD, so still a noob here). EDIT: Found a glimpse of the rolls at 18:04 = firearm, rate, dmg, chill).
Even though Im a Contagion fan I tried your Toxic Stimulation build for Freyna and I must say its really Fun its now my second favorite build (after Contagion) Ill give this a try since I really want Hailey to be at least decent at mobbing. Im not saying Freyna or Bunny level but at least decent. The problem I have with this build is that I haven't get the mod despite trying over and over to get it, the other Hailey mod I unlocked the first day but this mod I cant get it. The other problem is that I dont have Frost Watcher I haven't being able to beat Death Stalker. (i only have tried like 2 times)
yeah, she is no where near Frenya Bunny level. It's more for the playstyle. I enjoy the shooters and the casters depending on my mood. So far, she is my favorite shooter----now
It feels very mid, but i dont have either fully catalyzed. Juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze from my experiments with it at lvl4 and from watching other CCs. I do wonder how Decimator would perform in the off slot, or energy collector/mp collector. Also the mod which toggles between crit gun hits and skill crits to buff eachother seems like a natural fit. Might be able to make a shield version too. Also wonder about Lethal Finish vs Snowflake unless you crit cap. Would be nice if the lab let you experiments with max level mods and builds without having to invest the time to grind it up front and be disappointed/discouraged.
its for the gunny's indeed. But like most things in this game, requires full catalyst to crack the egg and get to the yolk. It seems alot of CCs didn't get there, I noticed they missed some huge points. Like the speed buff. It stays up so easy, and they missed Frostbite. Cant bypass that free bufff to all dmg. But, besides it being easily misunderstood, Not worth running hailey in any shape or form at all when a Freyna's in the room. Dumb concept. Even Freyna is better against Collosus fights. WTF? SO hailey is just best solo.
@@grumpyoldman6503I do/did too. But now it seems freyna (using my mobbing build) is easier cause it’s just hold down the trigger. I mean Hailey isn’t hard, but Freyna is still easier. It’s silly, but Hailey is losing a place as a useful tool. It’s be nice if she could freeze enemies still as a cc for team. Better than just slow.
@@TuxedoBandido they are both power crept 100%, and yes Freyna can mostly do the same for the non toxic resistant bosses. Swamp isn't hard but takes a bit of nuance, like dead bride for Hailey. Mostly trivial regardless which honestly is fine since I'm just there for shrooms and doughnuts now, everything else is trash and even those are just stockpiling. Just want 2 get in and then out.
Not a bad use of the new mod. I would also suggest looking at a build posted on r3ddit titled just simply "Hailey Mobbing Build" by a Jhemp1. I agree with your use of Frost Watcher over Clairvoyance like he did, but your lack of Range expansion hurts me in your build. You can see with his how he's able to not only spam and kill mobs, but the AoE is now huge and really allows for wiping out hordes of enemies. How do you feel it compares to your build?
@@blackkat101 the AoE is never 'huge' since it has a base of 3m. The problem with trying for max range is build space- you want lots of range, lots of CDR, lots of cost reduction, skill damage, AND still have to fit in at least a HP mod- that is a lot to ask of any build, let along a mid at best mobbing build that is outshined by 1 button press on other descendents.
@@grumpyoldman6503 I would say that with the two Range mods, you get a very respectable 8.6m Radius on 10 hits that don't even need to be kills. Just tagging the target triggers the explosion. You can technically get that up to 9m radius at max if you have a gold roll on your reactor on top of that too. No one's comparing her to Freyna and Bunny. Of course they're Mobbing Queen's. They're designed for that. Hailey is using an optional mobbing mod to allow her to do some mobbing. Which is actually quite nice. Since you can spam her 1 easily with CD reduction mods. With the main CD Reduction mods, Nimble Fingers and MP Conservation and at least one "Focus on" mod, you already drop it to an easy spammable 2.5s. With animations and having to spray and prey to activate your explosions, this is essentially like having Zero CD. A gold roll substat on the reactor alone will drop that to 2s if you have that and don't mind not having a damage increasing substat there. Tuxedo here actually has more damage than needed for mobs. So there is actually plenty of mod space to put these range mods in while also getting CD Reduction and even cost if you really want (cost isn't that big of an issue if you only play in 400%'s, with all the mp orb drops, but you can still put a cost reduction mod in there too still). Personally, I think a single Increased HP mod is all you need for survivability in mobbing. You kill everything so fast, including the bosses at the end. While also being generally far from the targets, so your allies are generally being targeted first anyway. Anything that gets close to swarm you is mobs that die to your bursts from your 1 anyway too. You're also not killing Colossi with this build, so you don't need to go all in on damage. Yes, it's nice, but not really needed in the slightest when mobbing. Especially with the Crit Rate Hailey naturally buffs.
@@blackkat101 I hear a lot of compromises again for mid tier performance best case. If you have fun, go nuts but it's not worth 20 catas to me to find out.
@@grumpyoldman6503 Compromises? Not really. One is overdone in the DPS side of things when it isn't needed to take out mobs. Instead, taking off enough DPS to still kill in one hit while giving a MUCH larger range to allow for bigger group kills (overlap more in the AoE's too), allows for faster clearing of rooms. It's called understanding and optimization. And 20 donuts? That's some extreme exaggeration. Standard Zenith build actually only needed 9 donuts (the Transcendent slot isn't even used and two slots were not needed after that to be catalyzed either). So that is very efficient and hits the perfect 85/85. A Gunner build would need 6 different donuts used to add that. Something though that a Hailey would want when you cannot use Skill Power. Then there is the mobbing build. If you're already spent the 15 mods on the previous two builds to allow for those to both be perfect, there isn't much you need to do to add in the mobbing build. Mobbing builds are extra on Hailey. YES, she isn't the best at it. But if you're doing it anyway (and probably after already doing the previous two builds), you only need 3-4 more donuts to make this build perfect. You can also make a subpar version of that with only say 1 donut instead, but as you said, she's already not competing with Freyna and Bunny. No one is. But making a even worse version of what she could do is your choice....
Thinking about playing the game but I hear it's excessively grindy, heavily monetization that's literally borderline predatory, player time investment isn't respected ect.
Yeah, there are some things that are grindy, but most of that the devs have adjusted and we are beyond. But if you havent played a looter shooter in a while, then it will feel grindy no matter what.
@@legionse7en448 from monetization perspective, the only thing they “force” you to buy is extra descendant slots if you want to own every descendants, and I agree this is scummy. Everything else is just cosmetics and yes they’re pretty damn expensive.
That’s really any game anymore, I play with my kids when I hav time ( there carrying this ole man lol) and I be having a blast. Good times. They always tell me to get Ajax cuz I die with everyone else 😂😂
@thelegacyofkain2672 not sure how old your kids are but this is a fan service gooner shooter, if that matters to you. Lots of T&A skins in high heels and g strings.
@@TuxedoBandido well, u use a race car for races and family car to carry ur children's or u use the family car to race and the race car to bring ur kids to school in the boot?? Hailey is good at bossing, bunny at mobbing.. U can still fuck astound for fun but if u wanna waste ur time it s ur problem, life is short tvo
Have you tried the Frostwatcher yet?
i have frostwatcher in the oven right now as i just got last part from deathstalker.
excited to use and integrate with ngl your build more than likely
ty
Ugh, lost me at Frost Watcher.
@@polkmammoth1 Same, I haven't been able to beat the boss once to even begin farming for it.
I much prefer using thunder cage with Hailey’s mobbing build.
i tried it with this, and it is way handy in close range. But that rifle gives her speed which is so refreshing, and the clusters have deep range and the rifle can match it. But yeah, the burst SMG and burst ice combo is cool.
That’s a good point on range. Can’t wait for the reactor update so I can freely swap weapons in combat 😊
@@EKayyyyyyy for mobbing you'd be better off with a rare reactor and a specific damage to legion (darkness, truth, immortality) - unless you really wish to farm reactors
hands down Heiley needs a transcendent that gives her a speed buff. or they could rework her 3 so that while you are slowed her grapling hook recharge time is reduced. She is legit Artillery and suffers all the same problems of Artillery. Its great to have if you can get it there and set up to be used.
I have just returned to the game after a break for a month but love Hailey and this is exactly what I needed as I love gun builds but also love her turret. 👏
Welcome back, and glad to have you here!
I was excited to get Frost Watcher but Perforator is the perfect mobbing gun for her. I just don't see a point of Frost Watcher until it's buffed or Cryogenic Cluster shot either since Perf 1 shots packs with a bigger range on a crit.
The movement speed buff is really helpful. And range and mag size. But the gun could be better.
Please show the attribute rolls when showcasing guns in these build videos. I just got FrostWatcher out of the oven and I am trying to figure out if I go the usual 4 (firearm, rate, dmg, weak) or something else that is particular to Hailey. Thanks for the video, I've enjoyed your content since you started doing The Division 2 (I have 11,101 hours into D2...only 800 into 1stD, so still a noob here).
EDIT: Found a glimpse of the rolls at 18:04 = firearm, rate, dmg, chill).
Sorry if i skipped that. I use Firarm Attk, Crit rate, Crit DMG, Chill Attack. Ammo per mag wouldnt be bad over Crit Rate either
PS, this is a Division 2 guy's kinda build. Actually get to use your gun. PS - pt 2 coming with hyperfocus mod
@@TuxedoBandido Thanks, Tux....looking forward to it!
What r your thoughts on using the new Hyperfocus mod on Hailey? I recently got it by combining mods and was thinking about using it for Hailey...
I was just suggested it. I’m down. Looks great. But at what cost. Hmm.
@@TuxedoBandido I'm currently running dangerous ambush on her bossing setup so I'd probably re-socket the slot to add hyperfocus when mobbing.
Thanks for the ideas. I just maxed Frost Watcher and was wondering if it was worth putting in the catalysts
Even though Im a Contagion fan I tried your Toxic Stimulation build for Freyna and I must say its really Fun its now my second favorite build (after Contagion) Ill give this a try since I really want Hailey to be at least decent at mobbing. Im not saying Freyna or Bunny level but at least decent.
The problem I have with this build is that I haven't get the mod despite trying over and over to get it, the other Hailey mod I unlocked the first day but this mod I cant get it. The other problem is that I dont have Frost Watcher I haven't being able to beat Death Stalker. (i only have tried like 2 times)
yeah, she is no where near Frenya Bunny level. It's more for the playstyle. I enjoy the shooters and the casters depending on my mood. So far, she is my favorite shooter----now
You should try her mod with the final master piece. It's insane. Goes well with her.
It feels very mid, but i dont have either fully catalyzed. Juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze from my experiments with it at lvl4 and from watching other CCs.
I do wonder how Decimator would perform in the off slot, or energy collector/mp collector.
Also the mod which toggles between crit gun hits and skill crits to buff eachother seems like a natural fit.
Might be able to make a shield version too.
Also wonder about Lethal Finish vs Snowflake unless you crit cap.
Would be nice if the lab let you experiments with max level mods and builds without having to invest the time to grind it up front and be disappointed/discouraged.
its for the gunny's indeed. But like most things in this game, requires full catalyst to crack the egg and get to the yolk. It seems alot of CCs didn't get there, I noticed they missed some huge points. Like the speed buff. It stays up so easy, and they missed Frostbite. Cant bypass that free bufff to all dmg. But, besides it being easily misunderstood, Not worth running hailey in any shape or form at all when a Freyna's in the room. Dumb concept. Even Freyna is better against Collosus fights. WTF? SO hailey is just best solo.
@@TuxedoBandido I use her to crack morphs on the first 5 bosses. 2-3 shots and done. Lepic is retired.
@@grumpyoldman6503I do/did too. But now it seems freyna (using my mobbing build) is easier cause it’s just hold down the trigger. I mean Hailey isn’t hard, but Freyna is still easier. It’s silly, but Hailey is losing a place as a useful tool. It’s be nice if she could freeze enemies still as a cc for team. Better than just slow.
@@TuxedoBandido they are both power crept 100%, and yes Freyna can mostly do the same for the non toxic resistant bosses. Swamp isn't hard but takes a bit of nuance, like dead bride for Hailey. Mostly trivial regardless which honestly is fine since I'm just there for shrooms and doughnuts now, everything else is trash and even those are just stockpiling. Just want 2 get in and then out.
what part of hailey kit is applying the "frostbite" debuff to enemies?
ends up being the chill enhancement mod on the weapon. So anyone can do it.
@@TuxedoBandido cool thx. The game really is bad at describing stuff.
I wish frostbite’s trigger rate was more than 8.33% though.
Not a bad use of the new mod.
I would also suggest looking at a build posted on r3ddit titled just simply "Hailey Mobbing Build" by a Jhemp1.
I agree with your use of Frost Watcher over Clairvoyance like he did, but your lack of Range expansion hurts me in your build.
You can see with his how he's able to not only spam and kill mobs, but the AoE is now huge and really allows for wiping out hordes of enemies.
How do you feel it compares to your build?
@@blackkat101 the AoE is never 'huge' since it has a base of 3m.
The problem with trying for max range is build space- you want lots of range, lots of CDR, lots of cost reduction, skill damage, AND still have to fit in at least a HP mod- that is a lot to ask of any build, let along a mid at best mobbing build that is outshined by 1 button press on other descendents.
@@grumpyoldman6503 I would say that with the two Range mods, you get a very respectable 8.6m Radius on 10 hits that don't even need to be kills. Just tagging the target triggers the explosion. You can technically get that up to 9m radius at max if you have a gold roll on your reactor on top of that too.
No one's comparing her to Freyna and Bunny. Of course they're Mobbing Queen's. They're designed for that.
Hailey is using an optional mobbing mod to allow her to do some mobbing. Which is actually quite nice.
Since you can spam her 1 easily with CD reduction mods.
With the main CD Reduction mods, Nimble Fingers and MP Conservation and at least one "Focus on" mod, you already drop it to an easy spammable 2.5s. With animations and having to spray and prey to activate your explosions, this is essentially like having Zero CD. A gold roll substat on the reactor alone will drop that to 2s if you have that and don't mind not having a damage increasing substat there.
Tuxedo here actually has more damage than needed for mobs. So there is actually plenty of mod space to put these range mods in while also getting CD Reduction and even cost if you really want (cost isn't that big of an issue if you only play in 400%'s, with all the mp orb drops, but you can still put a cost reduction mod in there too still).
Personally, I think a single Increased HP mod is all you need for survivability in mobbing. You kill everything so fast, including the bosses at the end. While also being generally far from the targets, so your allies are generally being targeted first anyway. Anything that gets close to swarm you is mobs that die to your bursts from your 1 anyway too.
You're also not killing Colossi with this build, so you don't need to go all in on damage. Yes, it's nice, but not really needed in the slightest when mobbing. Especially with the Crit Rate Hailey naturally buffs.
@@blackkat101 I hear a lot of compromises again for mid tier performance best case. If you have fun, go nuts but it's not worth 20 catas to me to find out.
@@grumpyoldman6503 Compromises? Not really. One is overdone in the DPS side of things when it isn't needed to take out mobs. Instead, taking off enough DPS to still kill in one hit while giving a MUCH larger range to allow for bigger group kills (overlap more in the AoE's too), allows for faster clearing of rooms.
It's called understanding and optimization.
And 20 donuts? That's some extreme exaggeration.
Standard Zenith build actually only needed 9 donuts (the Transcendent slot isn't even used and two slots were not needed after that to be catalyzed either). So that is very efficient and hits the perfect 85/85.
A Gunner build would need 6 different donuts used to add that. Something though that a Hailey would want when you cannot use Skill Power.
Then there is the mobbing build. If you're already spent the 15 mods on the previous two builds to allow for those to both be perfect, there isn't much you need to do to add in the mobbing build.
Mobbing builds are extra on Hailey. YES, she isn't the best at it. But if you're doing it anyway (and probably after already doing the previous two builds), you only need 3-4 more donuts to make this build perfect.
You can also make a subpar version of that with only say 1 donut instead, but as you said, she's already not competing with Freyna and Bunny. No one is. But making a even worse version of what she could do is your choice....
@@blackkat101 you type a lot to say the same thing.
Fully updraded this gun a while back. And i'm not really happy with it.
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Try hyperfocus mod
thanks for the headsup
Thinking about playing the game but I hear it's excessively grindy, heavily monetization that's literally borderline predatory, player time investment isn't respected ect.
It's free . Give it a try you literally have nothing to lose by playing it
Yeah, there are some things that are grindy, but most of that the devs have adjusted and we are beyond. But if you havent played a looter shooter in a while, then it will feel grindy no matter what.
@@legionse7en448 from monetization perspective, the only thing they “force” you to buy is extra descendant slots if you want to own every descendants, and I agree this is scummy. Everything else is just cosmetics and yes they’re pretty damn expensive.
That’s really any game anymore, I play with my kids when I hav time ( there carrying this ole man lol) and I be having a blast. Good times. They always tell me to get Ajax cuz I die with everyone else 😂😂
@thelegacyofkain2672 not sure how old your kids are but this is a fan service gooner shooter, if that matters to you.
Lots of T&A skins in high heels and g strings.
Dats a solo player build^^ bunny poison ivy wld be long gone leaving no mob behind^^
Great point. So everyone should run Bunny or Freyna only.
@@TuxedoBandido well, u use a race car for races and family car to carry ur children's or u use the family car to race and the race car to bring ur kids to school in the boot?? Hailey is good at bossing, bunny at mobbing.. U can still fuck astound for fun but if u wanna waste ur time it s ur problem, life is short tvo
Sry bro but i do 400% Dungeon faster with Bunny Build on Ajax
lol. Classic. Even started with "bro".
@@TuxedoBandido 🤣
Bruh
so slowwww